BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$ - Page 70

I highly recommend looking into the Da-lite High Power screen. The gain is 2.4 maximum. I have the older 2.8 version. You can read more about it in the "screens" section. Basically you get good gain without side effects.

No an option for this projector I don't think, as you can't position it in the middle of the screen.

You might want to check your RGB settings on your playstation..but wait, you had the pro8200 right? Your RGB settings are probably already set it., but I would double check.

You will get about 1.6 gain with the postiioning of this projector with the Da-Lite HP screen, maybe 1.7 (1.5 at lowest).
It is actually pretty good, and is the same position I have my JVC mounted at. Most of us with HP screens don't actually have our projector's center mounted for MAX GAIN, because we'd have to put them between the seating to do so or not clear our heads.

If you low-table mount the w1070 in front of you just below the screen in the optimal position, you can actually get 1.8+ to possibly 2.0 gain out of the HP screen, ceiling mounting with most people's sitting heights as noted 1.5 to 1.7.

I thought the gain dropped dramatically as you moved off center on these screens from what I read. Like to the point where it wasn't worth it. Think that was the 2.8 gain version though. Has it changed that much on the newer ones?

It drops off less dramatically on the 2.4, yah. The 2.8 starts higher though (2.8 is nearly 3.0 gain). 2.8's no longer available, so 2.4 is what we are talking about usually.

This screen works fine with this projector, it is still better for the money than any other screen I've seen if you know where to buy HP screens cheap, and you can get them pretty cheap. Some people claim I say HP screen is the best screen, nope never said that, best for the money -- yes definitely (at least for what I paid). And it is the best screen for 3D in general. It also increases ANSI and intrascene contrast for most peoples' rooms.

With a gain that high, aren't you more likely to get hotspotting?

The HP has ZERO hotspotting, but yes many / most other screens above 1.4 gain do have some hotspotting, but not the HP.

Really,

People need to stop complaining about the the BLACK level of this projector.

This is a 1080p, 3D PJ with DC3 chip for $899. Yes, $899.

If you want blacks like a plasma or a JVC, please pay 5x more and you'll get it.

I still love watching TVs on my Pannie plasma 50". But you just can't beat movies or games on a 110" for < $1000.

No, I don't have a W1070 in my batcave yet, and it will soon be replacing my 8100 which currently resides in there.

And if you want a little improvement in the blacks, get yourself a gray screen. This PJ has more than enough lumens to shine on a gray screen.

Most people have their projector setup way way too bright, get an ND filter. Gray screens are ok but the side effect is as the lamp gets older you have less and less lumens to work with in 3D.
The ND filter is the best option IMO, unless someone wants a gray screen for other reasons (to preserve ANSI contrast), but then I like the HP screens for that as well.

If people are using this thing in regular fashion in 2D on anything other than some giant screen, the blacks are going to look worse than they should because you are not watching the PJ at optimal brightness. Even my JVC will do poor blacks if I crank the controls up to 50 fL (it can't do that anymore, but it could on a new lamp in torch mode on the HP screen).

I have an older 110" 2.8 gain HP Da-lite screen. My W1070 is ceiling mounted and I can confirm that there is no hotspotting from the 8-9 feet I sit back from it and there is a substantial increase in gain. Even when I stand up the screen brightness doesn't seem to increase much which makes me think I'm getting the great part of that 2.8 gain. It really almost looks like a 110" plasma to my eyes.

I bought the screen and a Sony VPL 400q USED in 2000 for $2600 combined and that was a good deal. 400 lumens strong when brand new. The contrast ratio was probably only 300-400:1. IT had light greys instead of black. I guess that's why I'm much less picky about my blacks than some on here are.

If someone, before buying a projector at even a $3,000.00 price point, has an expectation blacks should be as good as a decent flat panel LCD, they will be disappointed. Heck, even digital projection in theaters on 100' wide screens can look less than inky black. My Epson 5010 has a much higher contrast ratio than the W1070 . . . but so what . . . even it doesn't rival a good flat panel in the black level department. And as smokarz says, a 1080p, 3D PJ with DC3 chip for $899 is remarkable - something that, at under a grand, many wouldn't have believed impossible only a year or so ago.

If blacks are key to your enjoyment of television, don't consider a projector. Some people might find the compromise too much. For me, I can see that the black level performance of my two projectors can't reproduce the best blacks out there. It doesn't matter to me, since once the show starts, my eyes simply adjust to the image. And the blacks simply "appear darker" than they really are. Some folks are posting that if they look at the black bars above and below the image (when they show), that it's "too gray". Any projection where you don't mask off the projected image is going to show something similar to this.

The bottom line for me is that when projecting a beautifully mastered Blu-ray, the image looks completely cinematic to me on the W1070. My 5010 has better blacks but this can't take away from what, to me, is a superior image with my BenQ.

Ian

I always liked DLP better than LCD, but some flamed me for saying it so I don't say it as much anymore. A JVC in a proper room setup really can do quite good blacks though, competitive to average-priced TV's, not as good as the best Plasmas, but definitely JVC can at times have near inky blacks (especially in 3D, though it's 3D sux overall).

Yup, I have a 159" High Power I use with my Optoma HD3300 (almost but not as bright as the w1070), and use it in standard/low mode for 2D and bright mode for 3D. The projector is 18" down from a 7.5 foot ceiling, and about 2-3 feet over my head. Brightness is great. In 2D you can turn brightness and contrast down but in 3D you want all the brightness you can get--and it is so much better than my previous 142" 1.3 gain DIY screen, that it is IMAX like. It is also a hare (pun intended) sharper than a 2.8 high power screen which I had years ago that had a more sparkley surface, plus doesn't have the color shift of that screen. Yes, there is a sweet spot for viewing that is about 8 feet wide on my couch, but that's really respectable. The bigger the screen, the bigger the sweet spot with this screen.

It doesn't hot spot because it is retroreflective--ie. the light reflects back to the source. But think of yourself as a "source" and it reflects evenly back to you as well-just less gain. With normal reflective screens the light reflects at the angle of scatter per angle the light projected on it, so it it scatters out and away from the screen, thus giving the effect of hotspotting--and the bigger gain the screen the bigger the hotspot. Retroreflective screens have a more controlled scatter, and you see even light coming from all parts of the screen. I get about 1.5 gain brightness across the screen where I sit. If I stand up, it's very bright, but at my seating level and with djustments I can make to both 2D and 3D separately, it's well into the wow, wow range.

So I ordered from projectorpeople and they still havent shipped. Placed the order on Sunday site says they ship same day if ordered by 3pm. Now Im sad ;-(

In the mean time whats a good ceiling mount for this PJ for around 40-50 dollars.

Im replacing my HD65 Im hoping to be wowed as I always thought the hd65 looked a bit washed out compared to the first projector I bought. hc1600

Where can I find it for 899.99 I only see it for 1099.99. Thanks for the help.

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W1070-Theater-Projector-Silver/dp/B00A2T6X0K/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

What I bought and is happy with. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F5NFTS/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01

Very weird it doesn't come up at my house this link worked though thanks a lot. My projector is flickering so it's probably time to get a new one this seems like a great choice

Mine comes in on the 8th. No way the blacks are not better than my Sanyo 1080HD. Cant wait for DLP! (no rainbows no rainbows)

Hi guys, I would really appreciate if some1 could try to play these two 60fps sbs videos on the w1070.

Make sure you use 1080i as output resolution. (you could also try 720p output in a second test)

Here are the Files:

LG 3D Demo 1080p Half-SBS AC3_60fps.mkv (208.1 MB)
https://mega.co.nz/#!ZQFXRApD!UKOYd3uj9HCj2oYqGr_Gr0Rt-s0Q36gmjT7cOETaous

AND

LG 3D Demo 720p Half-SBS AC3_60fps.mkv (103.2 MB)
https://mega.co.nz/#!xAEiyaxK!CN0ewXyiT2fbqN347aWGWXOXV9A455J9x58H9J-RWYo

Will be really appreciated.

Doesn't that reduce airflow? With the temps projectors get inside I am always nervous about reducing airflow.

I just received mine from Visual Apex today! Talk about fast shipping... I ordered friday night late, and received it Tuesday afternoon! It is confirmed to be 1.04 firmware. I have a lot of rearranging to do in my room before i can get this thing going for real. It looks as though i am going to have to ceiling mount it which i was hoping to not have to do but o well... I can say this thing looks awesome even on an offwhite wall with tons of ambient light! Cant wait til I get everything dialed in. Will post back with pictures and whatnot in the weeks to come. Any ceiling mounts you guys recommend?

So I woke up today and had a look at the benq pricing because of a conversation I had with one of the sales reps on Visual Apex. Well its true the pricing has went up, when I bought my w1070 I mentioned that should I get my order in before the free goodies end. The rep said oh I thought the feb 4th deal was ending because the pj was going to go up in price but corrected himself. Hmmmm I thought, should he have told me that? I never posted what he said just incase he let a cat out of a bag he was not supposed too. Well today the price is all up to $1099 everywhere except the Amazon site

Could this price increase be the fault of all us guys on here raving about how this pj performs beyond the price with all the fancy features etc?

The price was always roughly $1099, it only dropped to $899 because of Christmas sales, then it briefly went up and then it went back down to $899 because of the Super Bowl, all video devices around Super Bowl time go on sale to provoke people to buy, in fact most of the time the sales going on for the Super Bowl tend to be better then even that of Black Friday.
Edited by Daniel Chaves - 2/6/13 at 6:37am

Not to turn this into a screen thread, but you have me intrigued. I've seen people talk about the HP's all over the projector threads and heard great things, but I was never really considering them, because I thought that I would need to center mount (I've seen Zombie's setup of shooting the PJ in between his couch at center screen) and also because I thought that the higher gain would make the blacks worse, and that there would be hotspotting. If a PJ can be ceiling mounted and still get a great deal of the gain still, and have no hotspotting, and contrast is actually better, then the HP has moved from no option to the top of my consideration list.

Does Da-Lite make fixed frame frame HP screens, and would you mind sharing the places where they can be bought cheaply?

Thanks.

I just picked one up on amazon for $899. This is my first home projector and I can't wait to fire it up!!! Here it to the big leap into a home theater:D

You and I are in the same boat! Best of luck to you!

Welcome to the world of home projection!

I think you made a great choice with this BenQ. For the price, I doubt there is a better "first home theater" choice out there - especially one that is so capable in the image quality dept.

When you have a chance, let us know what you think!

Enjoy the show!

Ian