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post #2191 of 4939
2/8/13 at 7:19pm
I,m waiting Benq W1400
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BenQ W1070 innovations are fundamentally different:

Availability of the frame interpolation (smooth motion in fast scenes)
2 times more powerful built-in speakers
Big zoom and vertical lens shift
Presence in the model W1500 Wireless HDMI
Most importantly - the ability to display 3D with frequency 144Gts

The latter function is known, so far, only in professional theatrical projectors. It completely eliminates the single-frame flicker, and for films made with the same high frequency, ideally reproduces smooth movement even in fast scenes.

Projectors positioned as a budget, but from a technical point of view for the full "top-end" they lack only the functions simulated contrast, ie dynamic aperture of the lamp for dark scenes.
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post #2192 of 4939
2/8/13 at 8:28pm
Just fired up my new W1070. Wow... This thing is really good for the money. Here's the projectors I have had over the years.

Benq 6100, 6200
Optoma HD20
Optoma HD70
Benq PE7700
Panny pt200u
Epson 1080UB
Mits HC4000
Benq 710ST

This projector is the best so far and by far. Really dynamic and sharp image. Great black levels for the money. Excellent value you won't be disappointed.
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post #2193 of 4939
2/8/13 at 8:33pm
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post #2194 of 4939
2/8/13 at 9:35pm
Fired up my new W1070 from VA, and it was 1.04, as promised. It's just... beautiful. smile.gif

Only problem is that the unit (fan, I'm guessing) seems to make a ticking noise, sort of like an old-timey reel to reel film projector. It's a charming noise, since it's uh - a projector, but it does get annoying after all. Does anyone else get this sort of fan noise?
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post #2195 of 4939
2/8/13 at 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Look at what the FedEx man just brought on this stormy Northeast day.

Manufacture date of Jan 2013, Hardware Rev 1.03. Likely FW version 1.04 (I have to fire this up to confirm).









Had some fun with my new toy last night. It is indeed FW 1.04, so I guess if you get them from Amazon, they're most likely to be FW 1.04.

A few quick observations, though they have been mentioned numerous times already on this thread.

1) Out of the box settings look exceptional (Smart Eco, Cinema, BC off)
2) The image is very bright and punchy. Colors are deep and rich
3) This projector really shine with animations such as Cars, Toy Story, etc. It really is like seeing the image through a window.
4) Sharpness and clarity is incredible. And yes, no more motion blur from LCD
5) I also watch the Dark Knight, and I can't complain about the blacks from this unit. It's very impressive, but then again I don't have a JVC to compare to. This projector does offer that cinema like experience. It's as close to watching the movie on my Pannie plasma.
6) I was not bother by the noise at all. I had this temporarily sitting on a table, and I am about 2ft behind it. Once the movie started, I didn't notice any noise coming from it.
7) No obvious light leak that I've notice so far. At least, I wasn't looking for it. If it was that bad, I am sure it would have stuck out like a sore thumb, but I was too immersed with the content on screen to either look for it or notice it.

I do have a batcave with dark color walls and slightly greyish green, so I guess that play a part with the black level. I am sure, I am missing something but that's for now. I'll try to post some screenshots tomorrow when I have time.

I believe my Epson 8100 will have to find a new home.
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post #2196 of 4939
2/8/13 at 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

I cant believe how sharp this projector is for the price. I put my darbee dvp into the mix and in 3D it really makes it look like the most awesome 2d image I have ever seen. One thing that made me sell my epson 5010 was the blurring on fast motion in 3D as it was soft and got separated so it really never felt like real 3D. I was hesitant at first when buying as it did not have frame interpolation and worried me that I would not get the full 3d experiance. This is not the case and now I am even thinking that maybe FI would take away from the natural 3D experience I got when watching the 1070

On the cod fish in under the sea the detail was staggering because of the dlp ghost free image and the smoothness. One thing I get from the 3d now is that its all one depth, on the epson 5010 I felt like there was layers to the 3D image that likens that of a childrens pop up book that just gave you a few layers of an image to make it 3d. On resident evil corridors and far out panning scenes just stretched the image to an infinity I have never experienced before. I was happy with the brightness and I cannot wait to start watching more 3D movies. I had a concern about Kraine saying something about it not popping as mutch but as an optoma gt750, jvc x30 and previous epson 5010 owner I have no idea of what he is talking about so squash that rumor. The jvc has the best native contrast so it should in theory pop out more than the 1070 but I never found this to be true

For sure this has to be the best bargain out there and in 3D with glasses on you wont think of it as only 10,000:1 contrast youl think of it as clean and sharp with great power in the punchy image. Any one on the fence here should get over it and do your self a favor and just plonk down the beer money for this modest price tag of $899 cool.gif

Great feedback! What glasses are you using?

Edit: My bad, I see from page 72 that you got the sainsonics.
Edited by maintman - 2/8/13 at 11:49pm
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post #2197 of 4939
2/9/13 at 12:58am
I have had mine for about a month now and it been left on Smart Eco and I have never noticed any popping. It is a great machine and all I need to do is try calibrating it but the pre loaded settings seem to be pretty good already.1.gif
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post #2198 of 4939
2/9/13 at 6:34am
Bought from Amazon earlier this week and it arrived last night. This is my first projector so I've done a ton of reading, but I do have one probably dumb question....what is the optimal installation regarding the zoom...my gut tells me the zoom should only be used if I have to compensate for placement issues but somewhere I thought I read that zooming in increased contrast or something??? What's recommended? Any other tips for a virgin?
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post #2199 of 4939
2/9/13 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by jacobms1 View Post

Bought from Amazon earlier this week and it arrived last night. This is my first projector so I've done a ton of reading, but I do have one probably dumb question....what is the optimal installation regarding the zoom...my gut tells me the zoom should only be used if I have to compensate for placement issues but somewhere I thought I read that zooming in increased contrast or something??? What's recommended? Any other tips for a virgin?

Don't worry about using your zoom as needed. Your room will likely dictate where screen and projector are best suited. The only thing you might want to avoid is being fully at either end of the zoom - since extreme wide or tele is where the lens is likely more challenged with less-than-optimal optics. Having said this, my 5010 Epson - even when fully zoomed in can''t quite fill my screen (11' throw), so I have it fully zoomed all-the-way in since I wanted the image as big as possible. If you can, just keep the lens somewhere inside of the extremes . . . although I doubt that anyone would see any issue regardless of where the lens falls within the zoom range. I am impressed with the optics of the W1070 . . . much better than some more expensive projectors.

Zooming in spreads the light over a larger area, so the effect is that the blacks will seem darker. If I zoom out, the light is concentrated over a smaller projected area, making a brighter viewing area. With my Epson 5010, the zoom range is much greater than with the W1070 . . . so the smallest image I can throw on my screen from where the projector is placed will be way too bright - thus making the blacks appear much grayer than when zoomed in.

Hope this helps.

Ian
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post #2200 of 4939
2/9/13 at 10:10am
Hi all,

Got my W1070 on Friday and am sad to say I'm on Firmware 1.02 and what has led me here is googling how quiet my W1070 was and I didn't think it was normal to be so quiet, I didn't even think its fans were on but they were but were way too slow for my liking.

So I see some users report Firmware 1.04 corrects a fan issue, I am a bit lost on the whole updating procedure and with this thread at 74 pages its allot of reading, is this something I can update or do I have to send it away which I'm not keen on seen as I just got it.

Also with it at 1.02 has anyone had theirs overheat or burn out and does it have built in protection for this, is there a Change Log for their Firmwares? Cheers.
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post #2201 of 4939
2/9/13 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by sojourner353 View Post

Hi all,

Got my W1070 on Friday and am sad to say I'm on Firmware 1.02 and what has led me here is googling how quiet my W1070 was and I didn't think it was normal to be so quiet, I didn't even think its fans were on but they were but were way too slow for my liking.

So I see some users report Firmware 1.04 corrects a fan issue, I am a bit lost on the whole updating procedure and with this thread at 74 pages its allot of reading, is this something I can update or do I have to send it away which I'm not keen on seen as I just got it.

Also with it at 1.02 has anyone had theirs overheat or burn out and does it have built in protection for this, is there a Change Log for their Firmwares? Cheers.


You should check to see that the fan stays on for at least 90 seconds after you shut the projector off. What lamp mode are you using. If you use high the fan should go faster and your will hear more noise. On smart eco the speed and noise should vary.

The update can only be done by sending the unit in to Benq.
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post #2202 of 4939
2/9/13 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by sojourner353 View Post

Hi all,

Got my W1070 on Friday and am sad to say I'm on Firmware 1.02 and what has led me here is googling how quiet my W1070 was and I didn't think it was normal to be so quiet, I didn't even think its fans were on but they were but were way too slow for my liking.

So I see some users report Firmware 1.04 corrects a fan issue, I am a bit lost on the whole updating procedure and with this thread at 74 pages its allot of reading, is this something I can update or do I have to send it away which I'm not keen on seen as I just got it.

Also with it at 1.02 has anyone had theirs overheat or burn out and does it have built in protection for this, is there a Change Log for their Firmwares? Cheers.

I've noticed that when running the fan with firmware v. 1.03 it would be quite quiet with SmartEco / Cinema settings used - and the would power down normally in about 90 seconds or so. I have 1.04 (different unit) and it also has a quiet fan and powers down pretty much as with 1.03.

I would look for a first sign of issues with the unit powering down unexpectedly due to overheating. If your fan is spinning and you have about 90 seconds or so on cool down, I think you likely are good with what you have. The fan doesn't spin (it would seem) all that fast - nor does it seem to move a lot of air. This is just part of the BenQ design.

If you change the lamp settings from lower to higher you should notice a change in fan speed (getting louder). If you don't hear the fan change up when using different lamp brightness settings, I would call BenQ, just to be on the safe side. They have good phone support for their projectors.

Ian
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post #2203 of 4939
2/9/13 at 11:32am
Ordered last week from Projector People. They called and said it would be drop shipped directly from Benq. Still no tracking number or anything. The potential positive might be that it is the straight from the factory with the latest FW. Still kind of annoyed that it hasn't shipped. After all, they charged my card last week. Got everything almost ready to go. Haven't had a projector for a couple of years since I was unemployed and had to sell my Optima 720P HD70 (20?) That projector was OK, but I really want the higher resolution. Also the color processor of the Optima looks fake. The colors never looked true to me no matter how much I tweaked the dang thing. I am also greatly looking forward to the light dimming eco feature which should be awesome for darker movies. My 106" sceen is up and ready.
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post #2204 of 4939
2/9/13 at 12:29pm
Can any owner take a measurement of how far the lens is recessed from the front of the unit?

I have a DIY anamorphic lens that I will be using, and am trying to gauge how close to the lens I can mount my anamorphic lens. From the pictures its hard to tell if its 1/2 an inch or more.

Thanks for any help!

Just need a couple more details finalized with my room / mounting and I will be ordering one of these !!
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post #2205 of 4939
2/9/13 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by gonthorn View Post

Can any owner take a measurement of how far the lens is recessed from the front of the unit?

I have a DIY anamorphic lens that I will be using, and am trying to gauge how close to the lens I can mount my anamorphic lens. From the pictures its hard to tell if its 1/2 an inch or more.

Thanks for any help!

Just need a couple more details finalized with my room / mounting and I will be ordering one of these !!

The lens barrel is recessed by 7/8".

Ian
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post #2206 of 4939
2/9/13 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Well guys decided to join the crowd and will be pulling the trigger in 3 day's, hoping that they drop the price on the PJ since I also have to buy a 3D ready receiver, question I have have a 108P projector now is that the 1.3 hdmi cable or the 1.4???

Thanks

They do not spec cables as HDMI 1.3, 1.4a etc only gear that accepts HDMI input's get the HDMI standard's such as HDMI 1.3 or 1.4a etc.

HDMI cables are simply Standard and High Speed. There are also Standard and High speed HDMI with Ethernet so 4 types of HDMI cables. For BD 3D one needs High speed with or without Ethernet.

Be carefull what HDMI cables you buy when nearing and exceeding 25ft. There are some that carry 3D 1080p 24 past 25ft but some of the cheaper ones do not. Monoprice has worked well for me over 25 ft. Amazon basics cables work great to but they only go as long as 12ft if I recall correct.
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post #2207 of 4939
2/9/13 at 1:52pm
Hi

Need some advice before finalizing the purchase of the BENQ W1070,

I have a Macbook Pro mid 2010 core i7 Nvidia GT330 Model, it has mini display port out, I can as well if its a must, run Bootcamp to run windows.

My plan is to download Full HD 3D movies, either Blu-ray rips containing the Blu-ray format, or other non Blu-ray full HD 3D rips.

I am not planing to buy a hardware Blu-ray player, nor am I planning to buy a receiver.


The idea is either to use a Mini Displayport to hdmi adapter, then hdmi 1.4 cable to the projector, or use a Mini Displayport cable to hdmi directly to the projector.
Then with this setup, play the movies from VLC or other software that will support 3D Blu-ray and non Blu-ray full HD movies 1080p.

I am thinking to get two pairs of BENQ 3D glasses - model name: 3D, OR model name: (version) 2,
I'm not sure which one is better and what is compatible to what Im thinking to do if its at all possible.
Also the Nvidia 3d vision kit, maybe its possible to play some 3d games from my MBP with it and watch the 3D Blu-Ray rips ?


I would appreciate advice explaining how to ran this setup, if at all possible, and alternatives

Thank you - Ben
Edited by acetrip - 2/9/13 at 2:03pm
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post #2208 of 4939
2/9/13 at 2:25pm
Hi, I have the w1070 for a couple of days now and there is something wrong with my projector and i wonder if I'm the only one with this problem. Every time I turn off the projector, the brilliant color setting and the gamma selection revert to factory default. All other setting are saved except those two. I am on firmware 1.03. I wonder if I may have a faulty bios battery or something like that.

After a couple of days, I am not impressed with this projector, I tough it would be as good as my HC4000 but with 3D in bonus, turn out that you have what you pay for, this is not the wonder so many people in reviews are telling, it's really a budget projector with passable picture quality.
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post #2209 of 4939
2/9/13 at 2:58pm
Thanks for correcting all of us who think that this projector is a great bargain. What would we do without you.biggrin.gif
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post #2210 of 4939
2/9/13 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by YouFermont View Post

Hi, I have the w1070 for a couple of days now and there is something wrong with my projector and i wonder if I'm the only one with this problem. Every time I turn off the projector, the brilliant color setting and the gamma selection revert to factory default. All other setting are saved except those two. I am on firmware 1.03. I wonder if I may have a faulty bios battery or something like that.

After a couple of days, I am not impressed with this projector, I tough it would be as good as my HC4000 but with 3D in bonus, turn out that you have what you pay for, this is not the wonder so many people in reviews are telling, it's really a budget projector with passable picture quality.



I am surprised to hear that the picture quality of the W1070 is only passable to you.
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post #2211 of 4939
2/9/13 at 4:11pm
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Hi, I have the w1070 for a couple of days now and there is something wrong with my projector and i wonder if I'm the only one with this problem. Every time I turn off the projector, the brilliant color setting and the gamma selection revert to factory default. All other setting are saved except those two. I am on firmware 1.03. I wonder if I may have a faulty bios battery or something like that.

After a couple of days, I am not impressed with this projector, I tough it would be as good as my HC4000 but with 3D in bonus, turn out that you have what you pay for, this is not the wonder so many people in reviews are telling, it's really a budget projector with passable picture quality.

You must have messed with your settings or got a bad unit. I have the hc4000 and the w1070 in the same room right now (hc4000 going back in a few days). I can tell you this:

1) Sharpness: very close. Almost too close to call. The hc4000 is a very sharp unit, but the w1070 is just as sharp.

2) Brightness: w1070 destroys the hc4000. With ambient lights on, I can still get a great picture.

3) colors: very close out of the box for both. After adjustments, they both look good.

4) POP, wow! factor: w1070 all the way

5) Placement- hc4000

6) Darks, shadows: maybe the hc4000 has slightly better blacks, but I don't really notice much difference because of the great pic quality.

7) Image noise: slight edge to the hc4000

8) SD content: I think SD looked a bit better on the hc4000 (but who watches SD on a PJ these days?)

OVERALL : if the w1070 is a 9/10, the hc4000 is a 8.5/10. But if using it with a little ambient light, the w1070 is 10/10, and the hc4000 is 7/10.

ONE MORE THING: when i have brilliant color turned on for the hc4000, I get some weird blown highlights on skin tones, almost like inky spots that look like they are "torched"...but with the w1070 , Brilliant color looks great. With the BC turned off on the hc4000, its not bright enough (for me).

I don't know what it is about the w1070, but the way the picture looks, I have had friends tell me that it looks like a big plasma. Loving this thing.
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post #2212 of 4939
2/9/13 at 5:00pm
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I tough it would be as good as my HC4000 but with 3D in bonus, turn out that you have what you pay for, this is not the wonder so many people in reviews are telling, it's really a budget projector with passable picture quality.

And, what were you expecting exactly for $1,000? You likely have a defective unit, but to dismiss what BenQ has made available with the W1070 as "you have what you pay for" is kind of dismissive of a great projector brought in at a very fair price point. If it's defective a) go back to your dealer for a replacement / refund or b) talk to BenQ about a solution. How can you blow off what the reviewers see as a capable unit, when you admit you might have a defect? Defects happen. They're disappointing . . . but making the reviewers wrong about a unit that a lot of folks value by using your "defect" as the measuring stick to evaluate a projector model is . . . pointless.

You aren't one of those guys who goes to a cheap fast food place expecting a five-star meal - with five star service, are you? If so, I can see how this projector's pic quality for a grand would really disappoint. being just "passable" and all.

Ian
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post #2213 of 4939
2/9/13 at 5:03pm
Smells like one, looks like one (3rd post here)......therefore must be a troll.
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post #2214 of 4939
2/9/13 at 5:53pm
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Smells like one, looks like one (3rd post here)......therefore must be a troll.


LOL
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post #2215 of 4939
2/9/13 at 6:16pm
Could someone give me a time marker in a few movies where something really pops out? I've watched a few beginnings of movies and I'm not seeing much. It's 3d but nothing is coming out of the screen.

Also noticed the depth of playing a file via power dvd, which outputs the signal as frame packing is not as good as just playing a file with media player and selecting top/bottom
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post #2216 of 4939
2/9/13 at 6:53pm
Okay, now I'm starting to get annoyed. I'm on my second projector (arrived from BenQ yesterday), and all seemed to be going well -- for about 2.5 hours, anyway. Then with no warning and for no apparent reason, the projector just shut down. Bulb turned off, fan ran for about 20 seconds (nowhere near the 1.5 -2 minutes it's supposed to), red power LED and green temp LED came on steady. No shutdown tone. No flashing amber power LED, as would happen during normal shutdown. When I tuned it back on, red lamp LED flashed and fan ran for awhile before turn-on tone and bulb came to life. Watched for about 2-3 minutes, and the same thing happened. Now I can't keep the projector on. It runs for about 3 minutes, then dies in exactly the same way. If I turn it on, and then turn it off again within that time, the power cycle runs properly -- amber light flashes, fan runs for proper time. If I leave the projector alone after turning it on, I get this abnormal shutdown. What the hell is going on with these projectors?
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post #2217 of 4939
2/9/13 at 7:03pm
Hope this thing is back on sale by Monday..... rolleyes.gif



I want it....yesterday. frown.gif
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post #2218 of 4939
2/9/13 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

Okay, now I'm starting to get annoyed. I'm on my second projector (arrived from BenQ yesterday), and all seemed to be going well -- for about 2.5 hours, anyway. Then with no warning and for no apparent reason, the projector just shut down. Bulb turned off, fan ran for about 20 seconds (nowhere near the 1.5 -2 minutes it's supposed to), red power LED and green temp LED came on steady. No shutdown tone. No flashing amber power LED, as would happen during normal shutdown. When I tuned it back on, red lamp LED flashed and fan ran for awhile before turn-on tone and bulb came to life. Watched for about 2-3 minutes, and the same thing happened. Now I can't keep the projector on. It runs for about 3 minutes, then dies in exactly the same way. If I turn it on, and then turn it off again within that time, the power cycle runs properly -- amber light flashes, fan runs for proper time. If I leave the projector alone after turning it on, I get this abnormal shutdown. What the hell is going on with these projectors?
I had the same issue with a few of the w1000+ from Benq, keep sending them back and eventually you will get a good one. The two i'm looking at now have gone over 7000 hours and still going.
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post #2219 of 4939
2/9/13 at 7:35pm
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

Okay, now I'm starting to get annoyed. I'm on my second projector (arrived from BenQ yesterday), and all seemed to be going well -- for about 2.5 hours, anyway. Then with no warning and for no apparent reason, the projector just shut down. Bulb turned off, fan ran for about 20 seconds (nowhere near the 1.5 -2 minutes it's supposed to), red power LED and green temp LED came on steady. No shutdown tone. No flashing amber power LED, as would happen during normal shutdown. When I tuned it back on, red lamp LED flashed and fan ran for awhile before turn-on tone and bulb came to life. Watched for about 2-3 minutes, and the same thing happened. Now I can't keep the projector on. It runs for about 3 minutes, then dies in exactly the same way. If I turn it on, and then turn it off again within that time, the power cycle runs properly -- amber light flashes, fan runs for proper time. If I leave the projector alone after turning it on, I get this abnormal shutdown. What the hell is going on with these projectors?

It's a pain for sure. All I can say is that I'd be on the phone to BenQ about getting another one. I hope to hear (do let us know) how BenQ supports you. I have had a TON of bad luck with Epson . . . so it seems that this is the nature of electronics made in China with little quality control. Best of luck with the next one!

Ian
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post #2220 of 4939
2/9/13 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Snipe3000 View Post

I had the same issue with a few of the w1000+ from Benq, keep sending them back and eventually you will get a good one. The two i'm looking at now have gone over 7000 hours and still going.

Arrgh. I ordered my projector on 1/20. Two projectors and 20 days later, I haven't yet gotten one that is usable. This will probably be the last BenQ product I buy.
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