BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$ - Page 9

Anyone have any recommendations for compatible glasses?

so I was really hoping a lot from the ISF menu but apparently it's impossible to move the primaries to Rec.709? I posted in the W5k thread because there are CCA experts in there but I guess I've got my own answer: http://www.avsforum.com/t/957897/benq-w-5000-little-test/5100_100#post_22635093

 

It would appear that apart from Joe Kane's pj's, rolling gamuts is impossible on consumer grade pj's?

The Optoma ZD201 are apparently the ones to get. I bought a pair and picked up some cheapos from ebay for the kids. I thought about the benq ones (D3) but couldn't find a review online.

I've been trying to decide between 1080p vs. 720p 3D in the $600-$800 price range to replace my Panasonic AX100u with a dying Dynamic Iris. The main contenders so far have been the Vivitek D538W-3D or Optoma HD30. If the W1070 streets at around $800-$850 in the US, it really might be the route I go. Lens shift and short(ish) throw are features of my AX100u that I really like, even if I can get by without them if necessary. The other urge I'm going to have to ward of is getting a cheap used HD20 or HD66 in the meantime...

Hey guys. Newbie here. I just got a Benq W710ST but then I saw this W1070 and its got me thinking if I should return the w710st. Just got a few questions...

What type of 3D is this compatible with? PS3, Xbox, Blu Ray player, or Nvidia 3D on computer? If I get it I hope I don't have to buy an Optoma 3DXL.

I need a short range projector since I live in an apartment. I read that the W1070 has a throw range of 1:1. Which would mean I need a distance of 110" to throw a 110" image, correct? My question is--does that mean the projector is fully zoomed in to get 1:1?

I know there's a short throw version, W1080ST, coming out in Q1 2013 but its more expensive and from what I understand the quality won't probably be as good compared to the W1070?

Thanks!

Check out the Projector calculator on the BenQ site. It will give you throw distances at the various zoom settings.
Yes, for a 110" diagonal 16:9 image the lens of the W1070 would be 110" from the screen. You could zoom in and make it smaller from that distance, but not larger.
Your W710ST only needs to be 69 inches away for the same 110" image. Short throw indeed.

I wouldn't assume the W1080ST will have a worse image the W1070. I think the point is simply that to make a short throw lens that doesn't degrade the image costs more money.
BenQ has a ton of experience with Short Throw in the business/education market so hopefully you are in good hands.

There is a huge industry in DLP Link 3D glasses, going from 20 a pop (with USB rechargers + auto-shutoff), to over 100 each.

I'm going to try the 3DTV brand glasses via Amazon for around 35. Maybe I'll check out the 20 dollar ones after that so I can have a lot of people over. I read somewhere that the Optoma lost the signal in one review, but maybe I'm mistaken. That's the thing, I can't imagine paying 100 each for these things, especially if they annoyingly cut out like the Benq ones recommended with this projector do, according to Kaine in his review.

Any handy links for shootouts of DLP Link 3D glasses?

The consensus from Zombie's shoot-out thread seems to be the optima zd201 are the best with the true depth being nearly as good with a larger lens. Check out the shoot out thread in the high-end projector section.

Yes, I spent hours reading reviews / threads and all and the only one that stand out are the ZD201. The other ones always have mixed reviews, some like them some don't, ie: truedepth, xpand,ultraclear, ..

Just got my tracking number from NCIX !!!

Thanks David for the response. Very helpful especially the calculator link. Do you know if image quality decreases if a projector is fully zoomed (enlarged to max)?

Nice do you live in US?

No, I'm in Montreal

Its HDMI is 1.4 version, it's compatible with all type of 3D, including Blu-ray 3D from player (w710st is not compatible with this type)
Regarding throw range, I think this link will be useful for you ftp://files.benq.eu/projector/manuals/w1070/w1070_en.pdf

Likely you won't see the PQ difference when lens on "tele" and "wide", though on tele it will be better.
Edited by Yusuf.0088 - 11/28/12 at 7:10pm

How this compares to W7000 regarding RBE ? W7000 made me very nauseous even with Hoya ND2 filter. I was using it in User mode, which was 4x color wheel. unfortunately I forgot to try Dynamic mode which was 6x color wheel.
Edited by mishari84 - 11/28/12 at 7:21pm

Probably (there are two reviews, from France and China) it has same 6x color wheel.

Btw, I found another chinese review http://tech.hexun.com/2012-11-08/147756469.html
From this test ANSI contrast is little higher - 384:1 vs 336:1(pconline.com.cn test)

Thank you for the answer. That's definitely good news. I won't need any 3D converter box if I get it. One thing...I'm not quite sure what you mean by tele and wide? Zoomed in and zoomed out?

correct
Edit: With zoomed in lens position contrast will be higher, but brightness will be lower. So, if your your screen is giant, it's better to zoom out the lens and to place the projector as close to screen as possible.
And if the screen is not big, it's better to do opposite.
Edited by Yusuf.0088 - 11/28/12 at 7:39pm

Gotcha thank you!

Me too! It's a race to see who gets it first. Har har.

Just ran an insane amount of speaker wire all over my loft to my new surrounds, center and back surround speakers, can't wait till it all comes together! Should be worth it to finally run the Audyssey setup too.

I guess I'll probably buy the the True Depth ones, I like rechargable + better visuals. I can always pick up the 20 dollar a pair ones in bulk later on for when I have like 20-30 over for film fests. A+ ! Got my Stargate Atlantis Bluray set all ready to go, and Prometheus too. (will have to wait till next pay to order the glasses though. Overall I spent around 1100 total for the projector, 7 more speakers, 50 feet of hdmi 3d cables, 100 feet of speaker wires. Does it ever stop!! Can't wait to hook up my steering wheel and play all the latest racing games.

The TrueDepth 3D glasses are in the back, left side. The ZD201's, front right.




On the W7000 I liked the TrueDepth glasses nearly as much as the ZD201's. They are larger for those with prescriptions glasses and have good syncing with the DLP flash.


Optoma ZD201 and New BenQ glasses. The BenQ glasses are lightweight and have nice large lenses. The only issue I had was that they did not block the red flash from the W7000 as well as the other glasses (ZD201 & Truedepth). This may not be an issue if the 1070 uses a white flash signal.

 

Oh, bummer: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/projectors/projectors-reviews/benq-w7000-projector/page-4-on-the-bench.html

 

 

The W1070 comes with 4 presets: dynamic, standard, cinema and 3D and again, this link seems to imply that you cannot get a proper colorimetry over 4X: http://www.cine4home.de/knowhow/DLP-Farbraeder/RGB-Farbraeder.htm

 

So it seems fair to assume that the W1070 will behave the same as the W7000.

 

So 1) we have a CMS that will allow you to fix saturations but the green primary will never reach Rec.709 2) 6X CWS in the brightest preset but more than likely 4X in cinema mode.

Edited by leeperry - 11/29/12 at 4:12am

1070 uses white flash?

Thanks Zombie, very helpful. I think a bigger lens would be better, overall, less obstruction of the image. The Benqs are actually looking pretty nice there. I didn't order them when they were on special at NCIX, because I wanted to get the projector first, now I see that may have been a mistake. The review from Kaine mentioned some loss of sync with their own glasses (shudder!...ok bad pun. I mean shutter).

It's hard to tell what the tint is like on the BenQs, can you take a pic with it on a white paper like the rest? that would be great! I'm now torn about the rechargeability of these glasses and whether in fact, using replacable batteries is not the best solution, since if the glasses stop holding a charge that's like Apple products, it's dead Jim. Ideally, they should be replacable AND rechargable.

Loss of sync and image quality are my #1 concerns (as well as lack of tint). Actually price is high up there too! I want it allllllll, and cheap. (and now )

Couldn't decide which to get out of the ZD201s, Truedepths, and BenQs, so I ordered one of each. lol.

Not sure if anyone noticed but the recommended glasses p/n is different for the W1070

For the BwnQ W1070 = 3D Glasses P/N: 5J.J7K25.011

The readly available ones are Benq P/N 5J.J7K25.001.

Not sure what the difference is as I have not found them in any searches.

Rew

I searched for all of 'em on ebay and Amazon and couldnt find 'em. Are they available in the US?

I have cheapies (Ultraclear knock-offs) and a pair of ZD201s. The 201s are much better, but the other ones are still pretty good. The one thing you may have to worry about is the fact that some cheap glasses with batteries actually suck the life out of the battery even when turned off. I have to remove the batteries from the cheap ones when they're not being used. The 201s don't have this problem.

You guys that got the tracking numbers, did you get an invoice first? I got one last night, but no tracking number yet...(I live in the States)