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post #2461 of 4907
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Originally Posted by YouFermont View Post

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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Wow....that's perfect. Thanks for posting.

My screen 110" is about 8" from ceiling. The center of my lens is also about 8" to ceiling, but I still have some trapezoid issue, especially the bottom left corner.

When you say your screen is 8inch from ceiling, does that count from the top of the screen, or is that the distance from ceiling to the top of the viewable screen area (the white screen part, not the black border).

What method do you use to get your lens center to the middle of the screen?


If you have trapezoid problem in only one corner, the the projector is not parallel to the screen, you have to rotate it left or right, that will probably push the picture out of the frame, meaning that the mount need to be moved.

Exactly. I had the same issue, where I thought focus was too soft on one side or the other, but it was actually due to the projector not being aligned with my wall properly. I'm moving into a new condo and thankfully, the throw distance and so on will fit exactly with my w1070 according to the calculator. One thing's for sure, I definitely plan on using a laser guide and my tape measure to find the perfect projector location (or, conversely, the screen position), so everything aligns properly from the start.

I just cleaned + reinstalled all my drivers last night, including SVP latest, and watched Snow White and the Huntsman...it was sick smooth and virtually artifact free frame interpolation!! I can't wait to try it out with more movies and my new 'scope setup. Next step : figure out whether to DIY a curved scope screen to prevent pincushioning, or just get a premade one. Anyone in this thread using 2:35 : 1 with this PJ who can recommend a good screen, curved or no?
post #2462 of 4907
I am still messing around to see how close the W1070 has to be to my 100" screen as far as throw distance without zoom and was reading the manual pages 16-17 , if I read it right the Projection dimension on page 16 is for floor installation and 17 for the ceiling???


Is this correct??????
post #2463 of 4907
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Originally Posted by Nimoy View Post

Yep, which likely beats the JVCs in bright scenes, has far better 3D, and produces an image with more accurate colour.

Are you kidding me? Of course for $899 the BenQ offers good 3D, and a pretty good 2D image. To suggest the W1070 is better than a JVC in anything other than 3D is ludicrous.

I own a W1070 and watch it for 3D and 720P ESPN stuff; I watch 1080i and 2D Blu-ray on a JVC RS4810. Have any of you guys actually viewed the colors on a correctly dialed-in JVC RS4810? Or, for that matter watched a reference Blu-ray on one? The JVC is not only about blacks. It provides a smooth, film like image that is stunning in 2D when watching Blu-ray.

You guys crack me up.
post #2464 of 4907
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Originally Posted by YouFermont View Post

If you have trapezoid problem in only one corner, the the projector is not parallel to the screen, you have to rotate it left or right, that will probably push the picture out of the frame, meaning that the mount need to be moved.


I remeasured and move the mount about 1" to the right. This helped.

But I also realized my screen/wall was not perfectly flat so I adjusted that a bit.

Still, I got about 1/2" of trapezoid at the bottom of the screen, but I think I can live with that. Once the movie starts, I don't think I would notice much, unless I really look for it.

Thanks again for posting the pics and helping out.
post #2465 of 4907
I still remember the comparisons between the Acer H5360 and more expensive 3d pj's. Many emotional responses. I don't think anyone said that the Acer was absolutely better but it sure did a great job at 3d. It's kind of funny how we can get so defensive about our little toys when a lot of times it really is subjective anyway.
post #2466 of 4907
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

Are you kidding me? Of course for $899 the BenQ offers good 3D, and a pretty good 2D image. To suggest the W1070 is better than a JVC in anything other than 3D is ludicrous.

I own a W1070 and watch it for 3D and 720P ESPN stuff; I watch 1080i and 2D Blu-ray on a JVC RS4810. Have any of you guys actually viewed the colors on a correctly dialed-in JVC RS4810? Or, for that matter watched a reference Blu-ray on one? The JVC is not only about blacks. It provides a smooth, film like image that is stunning in 2D when watching Blu-ray.

You guys crack me up.
We all agree that the jvc is a much better 2D blu ray projector. The people comparing also have jvc projectors. Its that there actually things other blu to watch. I owned the rs40, 55, and now 48, all calibrated. I have also owned about 20 different projectors
Edited by blee0120 - 2/16/13 at 3:15pm
post #2467 of 4907
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

Are you kidding me? Of course for $899 the BenQ offers good 3D, and a pretty good 2D image. To suggest the W1070 is better than a JVC in anything other than 3D is ludicrous.

I own a W1070 and watch it for 3D and 720P ESPN stuff; I watch 1080i and 2D Blu-ray on a JVC RS4810. Have any of you guys actually viewed the colors on a correctly dialed-in JVC RS4810? Or, for that matter watched a reference Blu-ray on one? The JVC is not only about blacks. It provides a smooth, film like image that is stunning in 2D when watching Blu-ray.

You guys crack me up.

It is subjective. I've seen a couple of JVC units running, have spent some time with the RS45. Yes the dark scenes are stunning and certainly better than an entry level DLP machine; however I do prefer the pop and vibrancy of good DLP in brighter scenes. Haven't seen a RS4810, but I'd be surprised if the motion handling was up to par and wouldn't want to play Russian roulette with panel misalignment. That said, it does seem anecdotally at least, that the recent JVC models have better panel alignment than the cheaper LCD machines.
Edited by Nimoy - 2/16/13 at 3:20pm
post #2468 of 4907
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

To suggest the W1070 is better than a JVC in anything other than 3D is ludicrous.

Apparently you don't know about ansi/interscene contrast, motion handling, refresh rate, brightness and response time.

I'm in total agreement with you when it comes to watching many movies since I prefer the jvc usually in 2d. However movies with a lot of cgi or even video games will look better a lot of the times on the dlp. It just pops.

Once again as I said before, content will determine which display could be best in a given situation. If a guy is a gamer and a sports fan, I highly doubt that a jvc would be better for him.

It's also kind of strange to leave 3d out of the equation since that is a huge selling point of this pj. The jvc's absolutely positively suck at 3d and that is a fact. I would love to have a ghost and flicker free jvc in 3d but that may be a long ways off.
post #2469 of 4907
I don't disagree on 3D on the JVC. If JVC did 3D as well as DLP I am guessing myself and many others wouldn't be checking in on a thread about a low end DLP whose strength is 3D.

Agreed there are good DLPs where CGI and games just pop. I have owned a few projectors myself (too many, it is an addiction). My point is that other than 3D, IMO, the W1070 is not one of the DLPs that can compete with the JVC on "pop", or much else for that matter. At the end of the day I will acknowledge PQ that is the most pleasing to my eye is what is important to me.

I am auditioning a Sharp 30K this weekend. I was hoping it would have the DLP pop you are referring to. Its 3D is the best I have seen; as good or better than the W7000. Unfortunately, it doesn't have enough DLP pop or brightness for me to keep it a single projector solution and sell my JVC. Maybe I am the quintessential JVC fan-boy.
post #2470 of 4907
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

I am still messing around to see how close the W1070 has to be to my 100" screen as far as throw distance without zoom and was reading the manual pages 16-17 , if I read it right the Projection dimension on page 16 is for floor installation and 17 for the ceiling???


Is this correct??????


Guy's what is your opinion I could just be wasting our time if the throw distance is not adequate, How about a reply would appreciate it.

Thanks
post #2471 of 4907
Ok, this is starting to be a nigthmare, after 2 projectors, I think I have finally got a good unit but after watching my first movie on my new fixed frame screen, I really don't see myself watching another movie on that junk, vertical streak everywere, non-uniform gain and some hotspotting. Barely watchable, 250$ + 140$ shipping going to the trash.

Now I am willing to go up to 1000$ for a screen from a reputable company, Carada seem to have a low number of bad screens from posters here so I think I'll order one tomorow, but I am not sure if i'm ordering a 1.0 white screen or a grey screen, the black level is very bad on the w1070, maybe a grey screen would help, but then some peolple suggest that a projector as brigth as the w1070 can show hotspotting on grey screen while others say the opposite... Who is rigth?
post #2472 of 4907
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Originally Posted by YouFermont View Post

Ok, this is starting to be a nigthmare, after 2 projectors, I think I have finally got a good unit but after watching my first movie on my new fixed frame screen, I really don't see myself watching another movie on that junk, vertical streak everywere, non-uniform gain and some hotspotting. Barely watchable, 250$ + 140$ shipping going to the trash.

Now I am willing to go up to 1000$ for a screen from a reputable company, Carada seem to have a low number of bad screens from posters here so I think I'll order one tomorow, but I am not sure if i'm ordering a 1.0 white screen or a grey screen, the black level is very bad on the w1070, maybe a grey screen would help, but then some peolple suggest that a projector as brigth as the w1070 can show hotspotting on grey screen while others say the opposite... Who is rigth?



What screen did you get?

I've heard pretty good reviews on the Elite as a budget screen. Of course, if you got money Carada would be awesome. Hotspotting on a grey screen? That's new to me unless it has very high positive gain.
Edited by smokarz - 2/16/13 at 6:02pm
post #2473 of 4907
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Guy's what is your opinion I could just be wasting our time if the throw distance is not adequate, How about a reply would appreciate it.

Thanks


Dude, why not use the BenQ calculator?


Here are the numbers according to BenQ.

1.00x Zoom (no zoom) - 8'4"

1.15x Zoom (mid zoom) - 9'7"

1.3x Zoom (max zoom) - 10'10"
post #2474 of 4907
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Originally Posted by YouFermont View Post

Ok, this is starting to be a nigthmare, after 2 projectors, I think I have finally got a good unit but after watching my first movie on my new fixed frame screen, I really don't see myself watching another movie on that junk, vertical streak everywere, non-uniform gain and some hotspotting. Barely watchable, 250$ + 140$ shipping going to the trash.

Now I am willing to go up to 1000$ for a screen from a reputable company, Carada seem to have a low number of bad screens from posters here so I think I'll order one tomorow, but I am not sure if i'm ordering a 1.0 white screen or a grey screen, the black level is very bad on the w1070, maybe a grey screen would help, but then some peolple suggest that a projector as brigth as the w1070 can show hotspotting on grey screen while others say the opposite... Who is rigth?
Visual Apex screens are good and the Jamestown screens I heard are ok screens
post #2475 of 4907
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Dude, why not use the BenQ calculator?


Here are the numbers according to BenQ.

1.00x Zoom (no zoom) - 8'4"

1.15x Zoom (mid zoom) - 9'7"

1.3x Zoom (max zoom) - 10'10"

Tried it and somehow ended up with the screen on the floor?????? lol, the Projector central site stated 9' 6" and you are stating mid zoom 9'7" , ok how much will that distort the movies??????? Thanks by the way.
post #2476 of 4907
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Tried it and somehow ended up with the screen on the floor?????? lol, the Projector central site stated 9' 6" and you are stating mid zoom 9'7" , ok how much will that distort the movies??????? Thanks by the way.



There's no difference between 9'6 and 9'7.

Rule of thumb is you use mid zoom to place your projector. So go with that.
post #2477 of 4907
Alright so I just got my sainsonic 3d glasses....wuts the easiest way to test these bad boys out with a htpc through nvidia? get the drivers?
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This thread is due some screenshots. These are taken with my Sony point and shoot camera so image is not the best.
















post #2479 of 4907
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

What screen did you get?

I've heard pretty good reviews on the Elite as a budget screen. Of course, if you got money Carada would be awesome. Hotspotting on a grey screen? That's new to me unless it has very high positive gain.

It's a no name screen from ebay, you can see it in a thread I started in the screen forum. It's very well built for the price, but the material is useless.
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I believe I need a new graphics card....I'm using a dvi to hdmi on my graphics card so I guess it's not hdmi 1.4 compatible....wuts a good cheap graphics card....then I just need the 3dtv play driver...anything else?
post #2481 of 4907
I've had good luck with an Nvidia GeForce GT610 I got from Amazon for about $40. It supports 3D + hi def bitstream audio.
post #2482 of 4907
I really enjoyed Art's review...really made my decision even harder. I just want to get my purchase right this time after not being completely happy with my current PJ (not the projector's fault) the pro8200. Well, here's a interesting video with the benq1070 and the Darbee.1.gif
post #2483 of 4907
Hi All,

Hoping I can get a helping hand.

I'll be getting a W1070 eventually and it will be my first projector. The room I am installing it in (I'll upload pictures later) has about 4m from wall to wall and is quite square.

It will be ceiling mounted.

I'm hoping to get as big a screen as possible. 150 inch if possible, if not then I guess I step down to the next standard size which seems to be 120 inch. Is this correct?

I am wondering where and how far it should be mounted from the projected wall. Is the objective to mount it as far as possible away from the projected wall?

Cable raceways appealed to me, is this the consensus for cable management?

Thanks for any help.
post #2484 of 4907
Closer to the screen results in a brighter image, and smaller screen in general, so keep in mind the limitations of the pj and the light produced vs the desired screen size, or room limitations to make your decision. Try out this calc, it's easy to use and will give you a good idea on brightness vs placement and screen gain choices. http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ From a glancing look, if you can mount the pj at it's closest,12' 7" using 150" 1.0 gain screen, the brightness looks good, but you'll need a ceiling height of around 9' 6"?
Edited by jnabq - 2/17/13 at 4:03am
post #2485 of 4907
Hello...i just registered on AVS yesterday but i have been reading a lot of threads and i am happy to be a new member here as a lot of you are very knowledgeable...i ordered the W1070 last week and i should be getting it later this week...my previous PJ was the Optoma GT-750E wich was a 720P....i was desapointed with the Optoma mostly for the poor blacks and also i found it very dark for 3D...well with what i read yet about the W1070 i am sure i will be happy and also that i will see a noticeable difference in picture quality and sharpness....cant wait to have it!...smile.gif...any comments from W1070 owners would be appreciated.
post #2486 of 4907
Couldn't agree more Smokarz! This time from my SLR. I'm still not good at taking screenshots:)








post #2487 of 4907
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Originally Posted by uberisuber View Post

Hi All,

Hoping I can get a helping hand.

I'll be getting a W1070 eventually and it will be my first projector. The room I am installing it in (I'll upload pictures later) has about 4m from wall to wall and is quite square.

It will be ceiling mounted.

I'm hoping to get as big a screen as possible. 150 inch if possible, if not then I guess I step down to the next standard size which seems to be 120 inch. Is this correct?

I am wondering where and how far it should be mounted from the projected wall. Is the objective to mount it as far as possible away from the projected wall?

Cable raceways appealed to me, is this the consensus for cable management?

Thanks for any help.
Uberisuber....I have a 150" inch and I'm sitting about 15 feet back and the image looks great! I haven't heard much about the cable management, but cables are in the ceiling.
post #2488 of 4907
Nice shots JoeBoy73.

What screen you got there? Is it 2.35?
post #2489 of 4907
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Nice shots JoeBoy73.

What screen you got there? Is it 2.35?
Nah...lol. I wish though...I can real close to getting one. But its 16:9.
post #2490 of 4907
Unsure if this post is quoting jnabq

Thanks for the post, some useful information there.

I'm at work at the moment so am unable to do measurements, but I don't think I have 9' 6", maybe 8' 5".

It's encouraging to see people taking it to a very technical level, but that website wasn't really easy to use, for me at least until I learn a little more.

I guess my next steps are to measure my room and grab a screen. For the screen I was going to do it on the cheap and just grab the cheapest 16:9 one of eBay. Is something like this adequate? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120-HD-16-9-Home-Cinema-Electric-Projection-Projector-Screen-Matt-White-MW-13-/370711051328?pt=AU_ProjectorScreens&hash=item565019bc40&_uhb=1

I see a number of "4:3 or 16:9" projector screens on eBay, are they basically saying you would have to put black bars on the 16:9 image to get it to fit on what is actually a 4:3 screen?

Appreciate your assistance.
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