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post #2641 of 4941
2/22/13 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by Mirakaski View Post

I purchased and have been enjoying my Optoma HD66 for 2 1/2 years. Unfortunately like many others now have a starfield of stuck mirrors on that projector. I purchased the Benq w1070 and have been doing a bunch of A/B comparisons with the HD66. I have a dedicated HT and 110 Blackout cloth screen. From my eyes, the HD66 looks to have blacker blacks. Overall, the Benq picture is better, but I'm just not blown away with the difference. Do I have to high of expectations? I was expecting the Benq to be exceptionally better. Is it even possible the HD66 has blacker blacks? It looks like it does, but maybe I'm missing something here.

Depends on settings and the relative brightness of the two projectors. I doubt the HD66 is darker but as has been mentioned several times before in this thread black levels on the W1070 are typical for its price range and DLP design...medicore. Several other posters have made the swap from an older 720p DLP (Acer 5360 & Optoma units) to this, and while they are happy they certainly were not "blown-away" by any particular quality.
I think this is more evidence that the older machines were pretty darn good, rather than casting aspersion at the new BenQ...black level aside of course.
Hey, there has to be some compromise at the sub-$1000 level otherwise JVC & Sony may as well throw in the towel.
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2/22/13 at 12:17pm
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Does anyone have any idea how to playback a 3D .mkv movie (one is SBS and the other is OU, both 1080p) with this pj? I can get my PS3 to play in 3D (tried MLB The Show 11 without a problem) but the HTPC will not output in 3D. The receiver (Sony STR-DH520) is set to HDMI passthrough.

My CPU is an Intel i3-3225 with HD Graphics 4000

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


I have a HD4000 card also with my i7-3770k processor. I can't get 3D out of it either using Arcsoft TMT. I can only playback sbs or ou using stereoscopic player, which I discovered is not necessary at all for sbs or ou. To play sbs or ou just load that mkv movie into mpc-hc and then turn the 3D of the projector on. You must be in 1080p/24Hz desktop resolution for OU and 1080p/60interlaced for sbs. Those are the only 2 modes I can get working with a PC. I can't get any 3D using 720p even though the specs/manual says it should work

If I want to play a 3D Blu-ray I use my Oppo standalone, then the projector auto switches to 1080p/24Hz and works fine. If anyone else can get a real Blu-ray working with an HD4000 internal graphics card I'd like to know about it! Supposedly WinDVD works but I haven't tried it.

There is a fairly new app on doom9 that I have been playing with that allows me to convert a 3D Blu-ray into OU in about 40 minutes using a veryfast x264 preset. It uses the ssif file from the disk. It works real slick and the results are so close to the original disk, but only in OU, not SBS. This projector seems to have great vertical scaling for OU but just ok scaling for SBS. I won't use SBS anymore myself once I saw OU.
Edited by tyee - 2/22/13 at 12:29pm
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post #2643 of 4941
2/22/13 at 12:22pm
Anyone knows where it still sells for $900? Im going to the US next friday so I was waiting to buy it untilwhen I'd be able to be home to take it but now it's price has risen everywhere from what I can tell! mad.gif
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post #2644 of 4941
2/22/13 at 12:37pm
I love this forum and the info which I find on it. I would like to ask if anyone has noticed some of the issues with new benq w1070 right out of the box. I will appreciate any help on this. See the photos which I have attached.

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post #2645 of 4941
2/22/13 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by gpavs View Post

I love this forum and the info which I find on it. I would like to ask if anyone has noticed some of the issues with new benq w1070 right out of the box. I will appreciate any help on this. See the photos which I have attached.


I have the same problem similar to pic 1. Paint chips on the casing surrounding the lens.
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post #2646 of 4941
2/22/13 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by d3code View Post

i bought this one yesterday.

although picture quality looks very nice. the major problem i have is the rainbow effect. before i had a benq running on composite and never had this problem.
but now that i have upgraded it to this new benq i see it the whole time.

the weird thing is that when i watch a black and white movie. then i dont have this problem. but watching a title in color in full hd gives me this problem.

is this maybe fixable by using different color patterns? maybe set the colors less bright?

that said. for the 850 euros it cost me. i find this projector to be very good value.

Try a ND2 filter. This projector is very bright and you can see rainbows easily. I used a ND4 filter and the RBE is almost gone !
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post #2647 of 4941
2/22/13 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by Mirakaski View Post

Can you tell me what the Gain and Offset settings corolate to what I'm seeing in the menu? I see 90's and 200's for gain and offset. Do the numbers provided above mean plus or minus to the default or are they nominal?


Unfortunately waiting for my BENQ should arrive today, so unable tp mess around with it, suspect that a 3 is a plus and vise versa.
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post #2648 of 4941
2/22/13 at 2:50pm
Has anyone had any problems with the 3D switching modes automatically to display correctly? Blu Ray 3D works fine but the last couple of days when I play SBS 3D content like from DirecTV or from Vudu on my Panny Blu ray player it will either display the two distinct side by side images or get stuck showing only half of the image on my DirecTV. I should also say that the blu ray player just had a firmware update so that might be the culprit but wanted to consult with you all as well.

P.S. I got the replacement model from Amazon for the fan rattle I was having: http://youtu.be/ZQSK0O-OFD8 and the replacement is good so far. The rattle didn't creep up for the first few weeks in the first projector so I will keep an eye (ear) on it. FWIW I got a projector with a Manufature date of Feb 2013 with 1.04 as the replacement.

P.P.S. Has anyone realized that Amazon's main listing of the W1070 (http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W1070-Theater-Projector-Silver/dp/B00A2T6X0K) is impossible to find by searching for it? Type in 'BenQ W1070' and it will pull up a couple of other W1070 projectors from third parties (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=benq+w1070). How are people finding it other than through this forum?
Edited by scottyroo - 2/22/13 at 3:18pm
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post #2649 of 4941
2/22/13 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by teeger View Post

I notice on mine that (when displaying the grid pattern) that the left side of the image shows flaring (chromatic aberrations) - making the left side slightly blurry looking - while moving across to the right the image becomes sharper. The softness is apparent from the left to approx. 5 or 6 of the white vertical lines before the image is pretty free of this soft effect. I notice that at the top of the image, that this same flaring is seen seen in the first few top horizontal lines too. Because my projector is upside down on a shelf, I have used the vertical lens shift to its fullest. Being upside down, I have the lens shift cranked all the way to the bottom-most setting (so that it projects higher when placed upside down).

Is this the kind of effect you are seeing? Over the weekend I will see if backing off from the extreme of this setting makes the image a bit more uniformly sharp. I still find the overall pic quality of this BenQ (even with this noticeable optics issue) quite remarkable. No lens is perfect . . . BUT . . . I would love to eliminate any degradation of the image where possible.

I have a replacement unit from BenQ which is interesting in how it squares up to the screen . . . the image is the right height both on the left side and right side. The first unit looked like the shelf was off kilter a bit making it appear that the projector was projecting on a shelf that was lower on one end / higher on the other. This unit it looks like it is projecting perfectly where the other didn't . Has anyone else notice this? I wonder if sometimes the DLP chip might be installed on a very slight angle, making projector placement a bit more difficult that one would like.

Ian

I could be seeing the same thing. After looking more closely at it, it seems to start at the midpoint of the image — very very slight there but each line gets a little "softer" as I go up the image. The top three horizontal lines, if I perfectly focus the lower lines, get this flaring. . . looks to be slightly red.

The projector is currently on a table. The "flare," as you put it, shows on both the horizontal and vertical lines however, it's less pronounced on the vertical lines, and it stays blurred regardless of my angle or distance. However, like you state, the picture is still very good when watching content.

If I focus on bringing the top lines in focus I can get them all pretty similar, but not as sharp as I can get the bottom half by itself. Yes, text is till legible — writing this on it right now.

I might just lower the screen to where this issue is no longer an issue. . . though that may be a problem if I mount it on the ceiling later in the final setup — 8' ceiling don't allow for much lowering of the projector however I do like the image higher, generally.

As to your question. I may have that same issue as well. It was driving me nuts getting this thing squared properly but I think I've got it. Had to use a good amount of adjustment on the one adjustable leg of the projector but then again, I'm using a temporary DIY screen on a very crooked wall.

Thanks for the info.
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post #2650 of 4941
2/22/13 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post

Has anyone had any problems with the 3D switching modes automatically to display correctly? Blu Ray 3D works fine but the last couple of days when I play SBS 3D content like from DirecTV or from Vudu on my Panny Blu ray player it will either display the two distinct side by side images or get stuck showing only half of the image on my DirecTV. I should also say that the blu ray player just had a firmware update so that might be the culprit but wanted to consult with you all as well.

P.S. I got the replacement model from Amazon for the fan rattle I was having: http://youtu.be/ZQSK0O-OFD8 and the replacement is good so far. The rattle didn't creep up for the first few weeks in the first projector so I will keep an eye (ear) on it. FWIW I got a projector with a Manufature date of Feb 2013 with 1.04 as the replacement.

P.P.S. Has anyone realized that Amazon's main listing of the W1070 (http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W1070-Theater-Projector-Silver/dp/B00A2T6X0K) is impossible to find by searching for it? Type in 'BenQ W1070' and it will pull up a couple of other W1070 projectors from third parties (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=benq+w1070). How are people finding it other than through this forum?





Google my friend. Type in 'benq w1070 amazon' and voila!


http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W1070-Theater-Projector-Silver/dp/B00A2T6X0K
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post #2651 of 4941
2/22/13 at 4:11pm
Well received the Benq & other items just inspected the items to make sure they were OK and they were the Ben was manufacture this month. February 2013, so hope that its a good sign, seen the remote it looks like child remote for a toy.
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post #2652 of 4941
2/22/13 at 4:19pm
wow now Im really torn between the w1070 and Optoma upcoming projector h131x or HD25

If the lens shift does cause issues with the image then I might as well go with the Optoma since it lacks lens shift but you gain RF glasses.
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post #2653 of 4941
2/22/13 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

wow now Im really torn between the w1070 and Optoma upcoming projector h131x or HD25

If the lens shift does cause issues with the image then I might as well go with the Optoma since it lacks lens shift but you gain RF glasses.



Buy both and compare. Return the one that don't perform.

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post #2654 of 4941
2/22/13 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Buy both and compare. Return the one that don't perform.

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If I could do that I wouildnt be buying a budget projector, I would just buy the Panasonic AE8000
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post #2655 of 4941
2/22/13 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

If I could do that I wouildnt be buying a budget projector, I would just buy the Panasonic AE8000


LMAO! Aren't we all.

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post #2656 of 4941
2/22/13 at 5:25pm
I recently picked up the 1070 for 3D; I watch 2D on a JVC. This afternoon I calibrated my W1070 with my Lumagen and Chromapure. Let me start by saying it bugs me that the 1070 is built so cheaply (exhibit A: the focus ring and zoom ring) and appears to have a preponderance of quality issues; however, I won't beat that dead horse any more.

Having said that, once calibrated it throws a remarkably pleasing image for the price point. Therein lies its value. My only beef is that there are slight rainbows evident from time to time for me. FWIW, I am more sensitive than most to them.

If all I had to spend on a projector was $900, this would be it. If you get a problem free unit it is well worth it. If you wait for the next new shiny PJ you will most likely never actually buy one. As my wife is fond of saying, there is always a sale. Frankly, I can't believe the Panasonic would even be anywhere close to worth 3X the price of the W1070.

Buy it. Enjoy it. Life is short.

Willie
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post #2657 of 4941
2/22/13 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

Buy it. Enjoy it. Life is short.

Willie

Couldn't agree more. I was tossing this purchase up for some time until I went damn it just go and buy it and enjoy. And I am.
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post #2658 of 4941
2/22/13 at 6:37pm
Bought mine from Amazon, if the benQ does not meet my expectation will send back then spend more on a Epson 3020 but no lens shift....
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post #2659 of 4941
2/22/13 at 6:48pm
Well it's been 2 weeks with no problems until today. was watching titanic in 3d when projector shut off by itself ,red lamp light flashes and will not power up the Manual says lamp failure . I have had a sharp for 5 years without a glitch... .I received this from amazon so I will exchange it ...grrrrr I'm a little bummed
Edited by kiwichev - 2/22/13 at 7:06pm
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post #2660 of 4941
2/22/13 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by kiwichev View Post

Well it's been 2 weeks with no problems until today. was watching titanic in 3d when projector shut off by itself ,red lamp light flashes and will not power up the Manual says lamp failure . I have had a sharp for 5 years without a glitch... .I received this from amazon so I will exchange it ...grrrrr I'm a little bummed


My opinion to get this PJ at this value its super put together and if it flies.,it flies otherwise it will be retun back and after the one year warranty to bad.................. On the other hand the Epson 3020 2 years warranty and will send you a new one while you ship yours back with 2 pairs of glasses and the only downfall is no lens shift or keystone.
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post #2661 of 4941
2/22/13 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

after the one year warranty.

In Australia we get a 2 year home collection and return on the projector and 6 months or 750 hours on the lamp.

Purchased mine for AU$897.46 at Officeworks on a price match basis using Penta Group price and shipping.
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post #2662 of 4941
2/22/13 at 8:55pm
Earlier there were discussions about the Darbee, I have been using one for a while. It adds a modest increase in perceived contrast and sharpness to SOME scenes. Even a very sharp DLP can still benefit from the Darbee, the issue is the sharpness in the source content itself (the movie or show) of what you are watching is often not as good as the projector's capabilities. The problem is cameras have focal points and camera men tend to have to choose what part of the image is most in focus, also there are varying levels of source content, bitrates, camera work, and what not. So yes, it does help some, but I'm not sure it's worth the $350 for a budget setup (maybe). It is worth it overall, just make sure you are not blowing that $350 before something else more important. I like the Darbee don't get me wrong, but it would be better if it had multiple "RC Like" algorithms as well as its own primary algorithm to play around with. It is worth it if you are a videophile.
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post #2663 of 4941
2/22/13 at 10:37pm
Just bought the Epson 3020 for 1200$ and its like dead silent, I can't hear the fan at all. The 3D is amazing and the 1080p content is breath taking. I don't know how the noise level, 3D and 1080p is on the Benq in comparison but I am very very happy with the Epson 3020 so far.hostgator web hosting
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post #2664 of 4941
2/23/13 at 2:32am
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Earlier there were discussions about the Darbee, I have been using one for a while. It adds a modest increase in perceived contrast and sharpness to SOME scenes. Even a very sharp DLP can still benefit from the Darbee, the issue is the sharpness in the source content itself (the movie or show) of what you are watching is often not as good as the projector's capabilities. The problem is cameras have focal points and camera men tend to have to choose what part of the image is most in focus, also there are varying levels of source content, bitrates, camera work, and what not. So yes, it does help some, but I'm not sure it's worth the $350 for a budget setup (maybe). It is worth it overall, just make sure you are not blowing that $350 before something else more important. I like the Darbee don't get me wrong, but it would be better if it had multiple "RC Like" algorithms as well as its own primary algorithm to play around with. It is worth it if you are a videophile.
I have been ignoring the Darbee because I'm thinking it's artificially adding detail, like a sharpness control, only without the ringing or halos. Am I right or is this little thing ok?
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post #2665 of 4941
2/23/13 at 4:13am
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Originally Posted by ackergwj View Post

Just bought the Epson 3020 for 1200$ and its like dead silent, I can't hear the fan at all. The 3D is amazing and the 1080p content is breath taking. I don't know how the noise level, 3D and 1080p is on the Benq in comparison but I am very very happy with the Epson 3020 so far.1.gif

Not to be rude or anything, but what does this have to do with the w1070?
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post #2666 of 4941
2/23/13 at 4:24am
If some of you are worried about the 1 year warranty buy the projector with an American Express or some other card that gives you an additional year warranty.
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post #2667 of 4941
2/23/13 at 4:26am
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Well received the Benq & other items just inspected the items to make sure they were OK and they were the Ben was manufacture this month. February 2013, so hope that its a good sign, seen the remote it looks like child remote for a toy.

What hardware revision is listed on the Feb 2013 box and what firmware version do you have?
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post #2668 of 4941
2/23/13 at 4:28am
This projector from what I have read ticks all my boxes. Low input lag, 6x Color wheel, 1080p, 3D ect. I could go on. It's just the balck levels I'm hearing about are supposed to be not that good. I hope their not as bad as to ruin dark scenes in games or movies.
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post #2669 of 4941
2/23/13 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

I hope they're not as bad as to ruin dark scenes in games or movies.

"Ruin" is a strong word. Let's just say that you will be aware that night scenes could be better, but if this is your first projector you'll be so blown away by the big, bright, sharp, color accurate picture that it won't be a big deal, especially for the price.
I suppose I have been guilty in this thread of repeatedly pointing out the black level limitations to partially balance out all the excited first time projector buyers giving rave reviews as if $900 buys you the best projector ever made.
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post #2670 of 4941
2/23/13 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by DavidK442 View Post

"Ruin" is a strong word. Let's just say that you will be aware that night scenes could be better, but if this is your first projector you'll be so blown away by the big, bright, sharp, color accurate picture that it won't be a big deal, especially for the price.
I suppose I have been guilty in this thread of repeatedly pointing out the black level limitations to partially balance out all the excited first time projector buyers giving rave reviews as if $900 buys you the best projector ever made.
I see. I'm used to seeing blacks that could be better lol. It sounds I shouldn't worry about it. Can't wait for it to arrive wink.gif
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