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post #2791 of 4926
Does anyone know if this mount will work with the w1070?

http://www.amazon.com/ELPM01-Level-Mount-Adjustable-Projector/dp/B0015A70FM
post #2792 of 4926
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

I'd rather have the more accurate OOTB color and better/faster color wheel, CMS, and triple flash of the w1070 over the Acer.

Funny thing is, I didn't see any advantage mentioned over the BenQ in that comparison other than that the Acer was brighter and possibly a fraction sharper.

The Acer was louder on normal lamp. The colors were inaccurate. There was flicker. No lens shift. Yet at the end, they determined the Acer to be the better all around performer. It was bizarre lol.

Maybe it was the translation.
post #2793 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Funny thing is, I didn't see any advantage mentioned over the BenQ in that comparison other than that the Acer was brighter and possibly a fraction sharper.

The Acer was louder on normal lamp. The colors were inaccurate. There was flicker. No lens shift. Yet at the end, they determined the Acer to be the better all around performer. It was bizarre lol.

Maybe it was the translation.

Well my take is the BenQ was more for the theater type and the Acer more the sports bright room or business room type.
post #2794 of 4926
post #2795 of 4926
I am currently stuck between a rock and a hard place, my Onkyo receiver 515 is not cooperating with me and neither is my BenQ, unable to set up the receiver since it will not show anything through my PJ, unable to get no signal on my BenQ, that is what I get for getting two new system by the wasy running through my PS3 and unable to set that up since no video?mad.gif


Well checked the PJ by connecting the PS3 and the Blu Ray and everything was fine so the culprit is the receiver.
Edited by zapper - 2/27/13 at 11:12am
post #2796 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

I am currently stuck between a rock and a hard place, my Onkyo receiver 515 is not cooperating with me and neither is my BenQ, unable to set up the receiver since it will not show anything through my PJ, unable to get no signal on my BenQ, that is what I get for getting two new system by the wasy running through my PS3 and unable to set that up since no video?mad.gif

Im not sure if it has been asked or mentioned but have you checked to see if there is any firmware updates for your Onkyo?
post #2797 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

I am currently stuck between a rock and a hard place, my Onkyo receiver 515 is not cooperating with me and neither is my BenQ, unable to set up the receiver since it will not show anything through my PJ, unable to get no signal on my BenQ, that is what I get for getting two new system by the wasy running through my PS3 and unable to set that up since no video?mad.gif

Ya make sure your receiver is up to date first. Once you get everything on and running try unplugging the hdmi from the back of the projector. Wait about 10 or 15 secs then plug it back in. Give it a couple secs and it should detect source. Worked for me anyway. Then on the receiver go into the hdmi settings and turn the control off and pass through on. Should fix it. I was just having the same problem.
post #2798 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

Well my take is the BenQ was more for the theater type and the Acer more the sports bright room or business room type.

That may very well be the case. I'm just saying that there was nothing in that shootout to substantiate that lol. Seemed more negative towards the Acer throughout, yet at the end, they gave it the nod. Strange.

I know it's brighter, which would make it even better suited for use in a bright room, but who's watching a picture that blue lol? Maybe if it's Avatar...

I'm sure after a cal, it is around as bright as the BenQ, so what do you really gain? Not asking the question to you directly, I'm just saying.

Would love to see a more in depth review. The price is definitely right. I'm just worried about the slower color wheel, the RGB/CYM config and how that affects it's ability to be accurate even after a cal, and if it can even be calibrated as I've heard it doesn't have White balance controls. Without those questions answered, or if any of those questions is answered unfavorably, I'd put my money towards the BenQ.
post #2799 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

That may very well be the case. I'm just saying that there was nothing in that shootout to substantiate that lol. Seemed more negative towards the Acer throughout, yet at the end, they gave it the nod. Strange.

I know it's brighter, which would make it even better suited for use in a bright room, but who's watching a picture that blue lol? Maybe if it's Avatar...

I'm sure after a cal, it is around as bright as the BenQ, so what do you really gain? Not asking the question to you directly, I'm just saying.

Would love to see a more in depth review. The price is definitely right. I'm just worried about the slower color wheel, the RGB/CYM config and how that affects it's ability to be accurate even after a cal, and if it can even be calibrated as I've heard it doesn't have White balance controls. Without those questions answered, or if any of those questions is answered unfavorably, I'd put my money towards the BenQ.

no argument from me, I too would like to see a more indepth review and they may just be one of those sites thats afraid to upset companies thus the quick little blurb at the end that didnt seem to reflect the rest of the review lol.
post #2800 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Funny thing is, I didn't see any advantage mentioned over the BenQ in that comparison other than that the Acer was brighter and possibly a fraction sharper.

The Acer was louder on normal lamp. The colors were inaccurate. There was flicker. No lens shift. Yet at the end, they determined the Acer to be the better all around performer. It was bizarre lol.

Maybe it was the translation.

The advantages (for some) might be:

2D-3D conversion
3D SBS 1080p/60 (unlike 1080i in Benq)
3D in ECO mode possible
Acer brighter than Benq (especially important in 3D)
post #2801 of 4926
Like many others here, I'm waiting for the price to drop down again. I have a whole living/theater room waiting...
post #2802 of 4926
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Originally Posted by TropMonk View Post

Like many others here, I'm waiting for the price to drop down again. I have a whole living/theater room waiting...

yeah same here, just bought everything else now saving up for the projector and hoping the price drops again.
post #2803 of 4926
Man...we need a sticky or FAQ section. So, what the concenus on the 3D glasses? Which are better....the True Depths or the slightly cheaper Saisonics?
post #2804 of 4926
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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

So, what the concenus on the 3D glasses? Which are better....the True Depths or the slightly cheaper Saisonics?

well its been pretty much declared the the Saisonics are the worse tested thus far and the best being the BenQ followed in a tie by TrueDepth and MonoPrice followed by 3D Corp and then the Saisonics in last.
Edited by Daniel Chaves - 2/27/13 at 12:44pm
post #2805 of 4926
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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Man...we need a sticky or FAQ section. So, what the concenus on the 3D glasses? Which are better....the True Depths or the slightly cheaper Saisonics?

I'm having some issues with my new TrueDepth glasses (every 5-10 minutes dropping sync or shutting off -- I can't tell which of these it is), but I've topped off the charge and am going to continue testing. More info soon. But when they work, they're pretty much flawless as long as you look through the center of the lens. If you look off-axis, through the edge of the lens you see a little red, but it's not really a problem for normal viewing.
post #2806 of 4926
Thanks Daniel...looks like I may give he monoprice glasses a try!
post #2807 of 4926
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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Man...we need a sticky or FAQ section. So, what the concenus on the 3D glasses? Which are better....the True Depths or the slightly cheaper Saisonics?


Just watched a 3D movie with my Saisonics and it looked great ..
post #2808 of 4926
It is unusual that a PJ thread does not have someone stating the calibrations that have made and if the movie poped, every other PJ that have own their has been a posting and updates on better calibrations.
Just curious.
post #2809 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

It is unusual that a PJ thread does not have someone stating the calibrations that have made and if the movie poped, every other PJ that have own their has been a posting and updates on better calibrations.
Just curious.

Because Calibrations is based on Environment, unless your going to be at the same place the person Calibrated at it wont match your area, factors such as wall color, paint used, windows, ceiling height, type of screen being used, age of unit, bulb age, sitting location, distance from screen, how good is the persons eye sight the equipment being used to calibrate, I can go on and on on and on with the various factors that can change how it will look in different places, the best thing is to calibrate to your environment not someone else.
post #2810 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

Because Calibrations is based on Environment, unless your going to be at the same place the person Calibrated at it wont match your area, factors such as wall color, paint used, windows, ceiling height, type of screen being used, age of unit, bulb age, sitting location, distance from screen, how good is the persons eye sight the equipment being used to calibrate, I can go on and on on and on with the various factors that can change how it will look in different places, the best thing is to calibrate to your environment not someone else.

I understand That Chaves also everyone has different eyesight but it is something to go by and then readjust the settings tour eyesight, look at other PJ thread someone has mentioned their calibrations usually the first posting.


By the way still having lousy Receiver issues so will look at that thread on the OnKyo TX-NR515.
post #2811 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

well its been pretty much declared the the Saisonics are the worse tested thus far and the best being the BenQ followed in a tie by TrueDepth and MonoPrice followed by 3D Corp and then the Saisonics in last.

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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Thanks Daniel...looks like I may give he monoprice glasses a try!

I think the Monoprice glasses and the 3DTVCorp glasses are one and the same...
post #2812 of 4926
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

I'm having some issues with my new TrueDepth glasses (every 5-10 minutes dropping sync or shutting off -- I can't tell which of these it is), but I've topped off the charge and am going to continue testing. More info soon. But when they work, they're pretty much flawless as long as you look through the center of the lens. If you look off-axis, through the edge of the lens you see a little red, but it's not really a problem for normal viewing.

Haven't seen any other TrueDepth glasses owners say this. Maybe they are defective?

I've always read that they are the best at keeping synch, is the only reason I am suggesting it.
post #2813 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Just watched a 3D movie with my Saisonics and it looked great ..

I think a lot of people loved the Sainsonics until they tried others and saw how much worse the Sainsonics are at blocking the red flash in comparison. Just from reading. I don't have them.
post #2814 of 4926
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

Because Calibrations is based on Environment, unless your going to be at the same place the person Calibrated at it wont match your area, factors such as wall color, paint used, windows, ceiling height, type of screen being used, age of unit, bulb age, sitting location, distance from screen, how good is the persons eye sight the equipment being used to calibrate, I can go on and on on and on with the various factors that can change how it will look in different places, the best thing is to calibrate to your environment not someone else.


While parts of that are most definitely true (environment/screen) at the same time there are often common settings and factory pre-sets with every display that obtain better than OotB results.

For example with DLP there are often common brightness settings where the DMD dither vanishes and there is usually a common sharpness setting that is optimal without adding ringing/ee (providing a firmware revision has not changed these factors).

Contrast (color shift) can be very screen dependent but there is also often a common setting that most will likely find optimal with matte white screens (or those sharing a similar environment and screen, like white walls with an HP screen).

Now when it comes to CMS settings those can at times be shared and obtain better than OotB settings with projectors that are not initially accurate (unlike the w1070 which is claimed to be pretty good OotB) but these settings should ideally be done in the room and on the screen that the end-user will be viewing (for optimal results).

However with lamp based projectors this is mostly a moot point since there is drift as the lamp ages and even a highly accurate initial CMS calibration is not likely to be nearly as accurate just a few hundred hours later (often times even less).

My offer to calibrate a w1070 is still out there for anyone very close to the Portland Oregon area (at about 1/3 the standard ISF rate), you'll want to get some hours on that lamp before hand though.

* I see below that Doug offered up the same type of calibration and I think I can say that like me he does this for fun as a hobby and for the opportunity to view more projectors, I don't think either of us is looking to make this a career. wink.gif
If the cost of the ISF certified tech/calibration is not a factor then by all means hire a pro, they will have you seeing your display at its full potential.

Regards,
Jason
Edited by DaGamePimp - 2/27/13 at 3:27pm
post #2815 of 4926
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post



My offer to calibrate a w1070 is still out there for anyone very close to the Portland Oregon area (at about 1/3 the standard ISF rate), you'll want to get some hours on that lamp before hand though.

Jason

I also offer the same type of high quality Enthusiast calibration like a pro would do, if you are on the other coast in Philadelphia PA. I purchased the gear and spent the time learning to keep my own projector calibrated as the lamp ages. 3000+ hours and it looks wonderful!
post #2816 of 4926
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Originally Posted by geezerpl View Post

The advantages (for some) might be:

2D-3D conversion
3D SBS 1080p/60 (unlike 1080i in Benq)
3D in ECO mode possible
Acer brighter than Benq (especially important in 3D)

I seen your comment. . . and was curious about the 3D SBS 1080p/60 on the Acer H6510BD, so I hunted down the manual.

From what I get out of the manual (page 36) it's the same as the w1070.




1080p/24 for ou & fp
1080i/50-60 for SBS
just like the BenQ

bummer. . .
post #2817 of 4926
Question we cannot change the colors & tint setting on our projector??????
post #2818 of 4926
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Question we cannot change the colors & tint setting on our projector??????

Those adjustments are really only valid in analog video. With HDMI there should be no need to alter them in fact they do not exist. For marketing purposes the manufactures put them in to the firmware for everyone who think they should be there. Same thing goes for sharpness and Cell light on a plasma.. I have an HC3000 from 2005 .. no color or tint when using HDMI.. component, yes they are there but not HDMI.
post #2819 of 4926
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Originally Posted by airscapes View Post

Those adjustments are really only valid in analog video. With HDMI there should be no need to alter them in fact they do not exist. For marketing purposes the manufactures put them in to the firmware for everyone who think they should be there. Same thing goes for sharpness and Cell light on a plasma.. I have an HC3000 from 2005 .. no color or tint when using HDMI.. component, yes they are there but not HDMI.


Still have a Sanyo PJ 1080P with HDMI and I could change the colors etc, so do not know where you received your information.
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