BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$ - Page 110

Sooooo glad that I didn't pop $1800 for a Mitsubishi 82" DLP two months ago.

I was wondering, what is the distance I can throw a decent 120" image on? I want to ceiling mount it, 7 foot ceilings ... about 13 feet away.

What ceiling mount are you guys getting?

This is a great mount and will be the next one that I buy...

http://www.amazon.com/Peerless-PRGUNV-Precision-Universal-Projector/dp/B000TXNS6G

Jason

Just got our replacement W1070. Let the little lady decide to give the W1070 another shot or go with a W1080ST. She let BenQ do a new replacement for the W1070.

Took a few emails to get the RMA from BenQ. We had them ship a new one while we waited for the RMA — this was all through BenQ who matched VA price of $899 back when we originally purchased.

So. . . what's different?

1. Packaging — this one was packed inside another box. Previous one was only in the W1070's box.
2. no "smear" on the lens
3. Seems brighter. . . noticeably so.
4. default color settings are different — seem to look better at first glance
5. Squaring it with the screen seemed much easier.
6. cover over the lens shift screw clicks shut
7. of course, don't have the issues that caused us to return the other one — fan bearing noise and half side of screen darker.

Firmware: both 1.04. . . bummer it isn't 1.05, but doesn't look like much changed there. Hopefully if I do ISF settings they will be remembered
This is one is a February build. Previous one was January.

Color Settings & Brightness
The old one color temperature settings:
100/100/100/256/253?/256
the new:
95/89/93/256/256/256

everything in color management is at 50

If you have played with these settings you know they will make the image darker when reduced below 100, but with the new settings the new projector is still noticeably brighter. If I change the new settings to what I had on the old projector it's very bright.

Remember, I'm using a temp white DIY 84" screen. So, it should be bright at that size.
Now cinema w/ 2.4 gamma is as bright as I had with 2.0 gamma and the old settings — cranking things up to my "brightest" settings that I had on the old projector gives me a very bright image.

Setting this projector up seemed much easier. The previous one was always a pain to get square with the screen. This one seemed very easy.

Fan noise. . . with high altitude off it's actually very quiet. We are right on the edge for having high altitude on.

Heat (environment temp ~65F)
With high altitude off it's blowing @ ~190F
Will have to measure it later for HA on

All in all seems better out of the box than the first. . .
Now time to run it for a while and see how it does. . . fingers crossed.

Calling DaGamePimp... Told ya i'd hunt you down if you bought one, lol. You were such a help with my Mits 3000 that your word is almost like Gospel to me. Hoping your memory of that machine (go ahead think way back) is still intact cause i'd like your opinion about the two machines. How they differ/ are similar. Hoping that you won't say there is a big difference in black level. I like what I have in the Mits but i'm interested in 1080P, very interested in the sharpness/ color, and extremely interested in what 3D can do for me (think UPS slogan). So... with that said, when you have the time... purty please!!!

anything around the 40-50 range?

or screens even? around 50-100?

Can someone pont me to arts settings, I searched it and could not find iit.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/calibration.php

I've got two problems with mine (potentially):

1. Screen door effect. I'm sitting about 8.5 feet from mine, running DirecTV. Does anyone else see it? I'm trying to figure if it's the projector, or the screen surface.

2. the projector will be turned off in 30 seconds. I keep seeing this message pop up. Have the Auto-Turnoff disabled, yet it still does this. Why?

Thanks in advance.

Well that one has been a while but I have seen an HC3000 within the last year (just not in my rooms). The w1070 bests it on all counts other than black level, however consider the HC3000 is not nearly as bright and it had a manual iris. Now this does not mean they are world's apart but if you are used to the HC3000 with a higher hour lamp and have the iris closed you are going to see the difference when comparing a brand new W1070. I mean my LG PA70G LED projector has slightly better black level but when I measured it I had roughly 330 lumen's on my 100" matte screen, where as the w1070 in eco is likely almost 3x that. The absolute difference in native contrast will leave you smiling coming from the HC3000 (the w1070 native cr with no iris bests the contrast of the HC3000 with the iris closed). All around the w1070 is an upgrade over the HC3000 and I cannot imagine you would not be pleased with the transition. However be aware the w1070 will resolve more fine detail and there by more noise in the image unless viewing a pristine source (mitsu's are some of the better DLP's regarding image noise or lack there of).

If I still had an HC3000 I could justify the upgrade (and the HC3000 was no slouch).




Check Monoprice for inexpensive mounts.

Unfortunately with inexpensive screens you get what you pay for but of all the brands out there the Elite matte screens are reasonable, still some sheen but not as much as most of the others (avoid Inland screens, tons of sheen/sparklies).

Jason

I have the same screen door effect as well but it's only when i'm close to the wall do I see it. I don't have a screen installed yet so I figured it wouldn't be as noticeable once it's installed. I've been watching from literally 1.5 feet away from the wall for the past hour (watching Leon) and I have not noticed it at all. The only time I saw it was during a very bright scene where I was reading something in the background.

what firmware version are you running? It could be running especially hot ?

guess ill post a pic. very crude setup. threw it on an uneven surfaced white wall. that is a 24 inch monitor to the right of it. i am in the process of ordering a jamestown 100 inch gray screen. hopefully it will mitigate the reflections coming from the white walls.

movie: The Host (BD50) on PS3


Edited by aohus - 3/15/13 at 1:31am

If you go from a zoom of 1.00 to 1.30, is that increasing or decreasing zoom? If it is increasing, then when you do that on the BenQ calc, the image gets smaller.

Heard nothing but great things about this mount. Almost went with it over the Peerless myself. The price is even lower now so I most likely would have gotten this if I had to do it over again.

http://www.amazon.com/Mustang-Profile-Projector-Mount-MV-PROJSP-FLAT-B/dp/B000F5NFTS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363354864&sr=8-1&keywords=mustang+ceiling+mount

Thanks, wondering how accurate will give it a shot.

Zoom means bigger......

Doesn't answer my question lol.

Is going from 1.00 to 1.30 increasing or decreasing zoom? If that is increasing zoom, then increasing zoom does the opposite of what is being said it does, according to the calculator.

Increasing.

I was wondering this as well

Then again, increasing zoom does the opposite of what is being said it does, according to the calculator.

Stuntman_Mike,

Think of it like this...

When you blow up the image as far as it can (at a given throw distance) you are increasing the light output (magnifying if you will) and this adjustment is considered max zoom.

The smallest image is minimum zoom with the least amount of magnification.

The degree at which this varies contrast and light output is different per make/model as most of the lens systems are different and often unique per application.


* Mounting the projector at it's shortest throw for a given size screen while maximizing zoom will give you the brightest image.

Jason



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Edited by DaGamePimp - 3/15/13 at 5:23pm

@DaGamePimp

So what is the optimal setting for this PJ then?

To be max zoom and brighter? does that compromise contrast when it is max zoom?

Looks awesome, thanks!

let me know, I was planning on using that as well.
Edited by vivithemage - 3/15/13 at 1:33pm

I hear what you are saying. The terminology just doesn't line up across the board, is what I'm saying. According to some people and some calculators, zoom shrinks the image.

It isn't a huge deal one way or the other. Using the calc from BenQ I was able to place my PJ properly. Furthermore, the PJ in real life behaved in the exact manor as the virtual PJ in the calc, ie after the PJ was mounted and I moved the zoom control from it's default position out of the box, the image got smaller. Whether that means that the actual PJ came with max zoom employed and I was therefore decreasing it to make the image smaller, or whether that means that the calc is right and the zoom comes at minimum out of the box and I was increasing it and making the image smaller, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't matter I guess. Annoying that I have to even question which is right lol, but academic in any case. As long as a projector behaves like a given manufacturers calc says it should, and I can place the PJ properly, that's the most important thing. If it didn't, I'd have to flip some tables lol.

I take some measure of comfort in knowing that even manufacturers are confused about what zoom actually does though lol.

Hey guys. I went out and bought a BenQ W1070 from Fry's today to put in my mancave at the new house I just bought. I recently sold my 82" Mits because I didn't think my new mancave would be big enough for it. Once I saw the room with everything out, it was much bigger than I thought it was originally (that's what she said) So after reading all the high praise for the W1070 and having always been curious about using a projector, I took a gamble and bought one.

First off, I cannot freaking believe the picture quality out of this thing. Holy Shnikees!!!!! For $1,000, I can't think of anything better, not by a long shot. The only real downside to this is that you Absolutley positivitley have to install this in a room that can be pitch black with no windows. Luckily that's not a problem with my mancave. Also, if you care about 3D at all, this is by far the best 3D experience I've had outside of an IMAX. Great color, contrast, brightness and most importantly, NO CROSSTALK

Now, here's my question. As amazing as this projector is, especially given the price. There is one thing missing for me. Frame Interlopation. I am one of the few that actually prefers the soap opera effect of the 120-240 hz motion enhancement. So, now that I know my mancave can handle a projector, is there anything that can give me the same picture quality or a little better, with the same 3D quality and 120-240hz??? If so, that's what I want. Any help would be appreciated. Btw, I'm still not sure I'm taking this back yet. I can live with the standard 24-60 hz but I would definitely consider it if there's something close to the price range and performance.

I am in the same boat as you. I have a 82840 that i am looking to sell to buy this projector or the acer h6510bd. How does the picture quality compare to the 82 inch tv? Thanks for any response.

They don't put CFI on projectors in this range typically. Don't remember seeing any recently released DLPs with it period.

Your only choice close to this range would be with a 3LCD from Epson, but then you would be giving up the crosstalk free 3D, which you said was important, so I don't know where you would go from here.

It absolutely blows the picture away!! I too had the 82840 and was pleased with the overall 2D performance, but the 3D was lacking big time. Way too soft and not enough pop out. I'm still in shock at how good the W1070 looks. I might even put it above my Sony 55HX850. Just keep in mind, you have to keep this projector in a pitch black (or almost pitch black) room for the best image possible. If you have any windows, forget about watching this during the day.

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

Do you know of a projector that gives the same 2D and 3D performance with CFI?? Irregardless of price. Just curious how much I would need to spend in order to get this feature. I was thinking the $1,500 - $2,500 range would be doable.

You can do FI with a PC if you'll have one connected, look into SVP.

http://www.svp-team.com/

Regarding other projectors under $2500, be aware that none of the lcd or lcos models will match the 3D of the w1070.

Probably the best all-around is the Sony HW50 but that unit is over $3k.

Jason

Few pictures showing off the W1070. Please note that I just set it on an end table and am only projecting onto a white wall. And if I decide to keep it, I'm sooooo using my Darbee with this. Can't wait to try it!