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post #3391 of 4967
3/19/13 at 4:14am
I have seen rainbows on this projector. But for me, they havnt bothered me. I was expecting it to completely ruin the dark images.
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post #3392 of 4967
3/19/13 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by rayweil View Post

OhOh..think I saw a few rainbows on mine when watching TDKR. Is that bad?

The projector is very bright and you can see rainbows easily. Add a ND2 filter and you can cut the rainbows by half at least.
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post #3393 of 4967
3/19/13 at 5:22am
I only noticed the rainbow once in a while and they only appear in different parts of a scene, Not consistent is what I meant. Lasting < a second.
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post #3394 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:40am
Been around DLP projectors for almost 18 years and have never seen rainbows on screen. And I have never tried to.
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post #3395 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:46am
I only saw them three months in, because I didn't use the torch mode (dynamic?). If you use User 1 or Cinema they totally disappear. Mess around, trust me, you can get them out (even on white backgrounds with black text or vice versa). I don't like wavy text b/c I use it as my primary monitor at home, but with the right settings the leprechaun monster takes a dirt nap.
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post #3396 of 4967
3/19/13 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

The projector is very bright and you can see rainbows easily. Add a ND2 filter and you can cut the rainbows by half at least.

What's the best way to attach these filters?
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post #3397 of 4967
3/19/13 at 9:02am
See earlier post # 3363. 67mm seems to fit well in the groove.
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post #3398 of 4967
3/19/13 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

I beleive smart Eco is the lowest setting for the lamp? I'm in, well, a "bat cave" as you guys call them, and the brightness coming from this mode when calibrated, is fine, not dim.

It certainly improves the bright scenes for me after being used to plasmas and there anoying ABL (reduces brightness at certain bright scenes, a lot)

Just to clarify, eco mode is the "lowest" setting for the lamp. From what I've read Smart Eco is more like a dynamic iris - bright scenes are still full power, but the light output is decreased in dark scenes. It should give you the best contrast ratio. The measurements that were posted a few posts back would seem to indicate this.
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post #3399 of 4967
3/19/13 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by sigma957 View Post

Just to clarify, eco mode is the "lowest" setting for the lamp. From what I've read Smart Eco is more like a dynamic iris - bright scenes are still full power, but the light output is decreased in dark scenes. It should give you the best contrast ratio. The measurements that were posted a few posts back would seem to indicate this.

According to Benq once would get the longest lamp life using Smart Eco.
See Trusted Reviews info on it.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/benq-w1070_Projector_review_picture-quality_Page-2
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post #3400 of 4967
3/19/13 at 12:40pm
Smart-Eco is designed to save up 70% power consumption but it appears it is a semi-bogus specification because it's likely based against Normal lamp and as you can see from the reads I posted Eco has better black level and never does get as bright which could, on average, mean less power (vs smart-eco).

I think the only time Smart-Eco comes into play from a lamp life stand point is when there is no image it blanks out (Eco blank) and reduces power to the lamp. Anyone with a Kill-A-Watt can test this, see if eco draws less power than smart-eco while viewing the same mixed content, full field black and full field white.

Honestly I think the constant fluctuations of Smart-Eco will only serve to decrease lamp life as it constantly changes the lamps ARC. I for one can see the fluctuations of smart-eco but YMMV.

Jason
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post #3401 of 4967
3/19/13 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by thebully View Post

please please please can any one state a 3d receiver that will work with the 1070 i just got a onkyo tx nr 515 300 bucks it wont connect anything not the xbox or pc i have them running thru receiver and 1070 for display nothing happens when i try to veiw one but there is sound please keep it under 300 i need help bad guys post your 3d capable receivers

I use the inexpensive Sony STR-KS370. Comes with 5.1 speakers, sounds great for the price, supports passthru and may other great features. Has 3 HDMI ports and in 3D perfectly supports my 3d bluray player, xbox 360 and pc.
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post #3402 of 4967
3/19/13 at 12:51pm
I have one question that I simply couldnt read through every page in this thread to look for and searching turned up negative and incomplete results.

How do I update the W1070? I have firmware 1.3 and would prefer to have the latest. Thanks in advance for any answers smile.gif
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post #3403 of 4967
3/19/13 at 1:23pm
I am confused DaGamePimp if you're in favour of Smart Eco of reduced power consumption or normal.

When I view a pure White image I see a kind of water flow type fluctuation in the bottom right of the screen.
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post #3404 of 4967
3/19/13 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

I am confused DaGamePimp if you're in favour of Smart Eco of reduced power consumption or normal.

When I view a pure White image I see a kind of water flow type fluctuation in the bottom right of the screen.


Smart-Eco will yield the best contrast and, according to my reads, the brightest image (which seems odd versus Normal but that's what the light meter shows on full field white).

If you are not bothered by the lamp fluctuations (pumping) then Smart-Eco will likely give you the more engaging image (and no reason to use Normal).

Eco has better black level and it is more obvious with mixed content than it is with full field black (at least to my eyes).

* Also consider that when in a non-ideal light colored room the more light you throw the more will bounce back at the screen causing 'wash-out'.

Anomalies like the one you mention can be heat related but difficult to say without seeing it in person.

Jason
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post #3405 of 4967
3/19/13 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Smart-Eco is designed to save up 70% power consumption but it appears it is a semi-bogus specification because it's likely based against Normal lamp and as you can see from the reads I posted Eco has better black level and never does get as bright which could, on average, mean less power (vs smart-eco).

I think the only time Smart-Eco comes into play from a lamp life stand point is when there is no image it blanks out (Eco blank) and reduces power to the lamp. Anyone with a Kill-A-Watt can test this, see if eco draws less power than smart-eco while viewing the same mixed content, full field black and full field white.

Honestly I think the constant fluctuations of Smart-Eco will only serve to decrease lamp life as it constantly changes the lamps ARC. I for one can see the fluctuations of smart-eco but YMMV.

Jason

What you say makes sense. It would be interesting to see what "A Kill-A-Watt" test shows.
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post #3406 of 4967
3/19/13 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by half-fast View Post

I have one question that I simply couldnt read through every page in this thread to look for and searching turned up negative and incomplete results.

How do I update the W1070? I have firmware 1.3 and would prefer to have the latest. Thanks in advance for any answers smile.gif


The only way to update the firmware is to send the unit in to Benq. I know this is crazy but that is the way they do it.
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post #3407 of 4967
3/19/13 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

The only way to update the firmware is to send the unit in to Benq. I know this is crazy but that is the way they do it.

Not true, a few pages back someone posted up the tools and how to update the firmware if I'm not mistaken.
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post #3408 of 4967
3/19/13 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

The only way to update the firmware is to send the unit in to Benq. I know this is crazy but that is the way they do it.
It is not. You can install the firmware yourself. Read my post http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000/3180#post_23074743
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post #3409 of 4967
3/19/13 at 2:50pm
Thanks Captain SHOK for doing the legwork and finding the post.

There is so much info in the 114 pages of posts we almost need some sort of Wiki page with notable info that can be updated.

Anyone want to nominate themselves? LOL
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post #3410 of 4967
3/19/13 at 3:06pm
It's VERY likely that doing the firmware yourself will void your warranty so please keep that in mind.

Aside from that I do not think anyone has attempted it and reported it as working... be careful. wink.gif

Jason
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post #3411 of 4967
3/19/13 at 4:16pm
DaGamePimp
On the Russian forum one person has successfully updated the firmware from version 1.02 to version 1.05 via miniUSB.
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:20489-156#4628
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post #3412 of 4967
3/19/13 at 4:28pm
Does the fan noise change when using echo, smart echo or normal?
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post #3413 of 4967
3/19/13 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by Captain SHOK View Post

DaGamePimp
On the Russian forum one person has successfully updated the firmware from version 1.02 to version 1.05 via miniUSB.
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:20489-156#4628

While that is encouraging it would be more so if I could read Russian or get an accurate translation, Google translate does not seem to work for me (IE10).

As I said previously it is highly likely this has voided his warranty and anyone else that does so on their own, anyone care to contact BenQ (hehe)?



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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Does the fan noise change when using echo, smart echo or normal?

The fan noise changes with each mode, eco is the least noise on my unit.

Jason
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post #3414 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:00pm
when i contacted benq they said it wan not possible to update the firmware ourselves
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post #3415 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:04pm
From the documentation provided it seems that an upgrade is possible, but even without a warranty I'm not game enough to try it.
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post #3416 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:34pm
I may be wrong but I think the firmware must be updated through the serial port.
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post #3417 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:39pm
What is the latest update?? little confused1111111111
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post #3418 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:51pm
Thinking about getting this from Newegg since they have it with a $100 gift card right now. Any reason not to get it from them? For those that have gone through Newegg recently, what firmware have you been getting?
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post #3419 of 4967
3/19/13 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by tza88 View Post

Thinking about getting this from Newegg since they have it with a $100 gift card right now. Any reason not to get it from them? For those that have gone through Newegg recently, what firmware have you been getting?


Someone posted that they ship in the original projector box, as long as you can return it if something is wrong, why not you saved $100 toward 3D glasses, right...........
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post #3420 of 4967
3/19/13 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

I am confused DaGamePimp if you're in favour of Smart Eco of reduced power consumption or normal.

When I view a pure White image I see a kind of water flow type fluctuation in the bottom right of the screen.

I have seen this exact thing, looks like water flow or even seems like smoke coming off a fire. Thought I was seeing things but since someone else has seen it i wonder if it has something to do with heat dissapating from it.

I have a benq mw519 on the way and I am going to see if I see the same sort of thing from that unit.

I know that one is only 720p but i got it for $375 so if it has a good picture and I dont see the same type of noise and/or this water flow type image then i may stick with that.
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