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post #3451 of 4968
3/20/13 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

So far for me the Darblet has less of an impact with the w1070 than it has had on the many other displays I have tested/viewed it on.

It does make a difference, used in moderation, but is not as obvious as most other displays of various tech.

Jason

That's interesting because I hear different comments from users in the Darbee thread. In fact, one person said they saw a big difference with the W1070 and the Darblet - - so I'm sure that YMMV - - and it can also depend on your setup (receiver - and if you're doing any processing before hand - - like Marvell QDEO or HQV.)

This is my second "go" at the Darblet since it really didn't do anything for my Samsung 65" LED - - which is already uber sharp.

But I was under the impression that the Darblet's sweet spot was really with projectors - - hence my interest in pairing it with the BenQ.
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post #3452 of 4968
3/20/13 at 3:54pm
Are there any decent devices like the Darblet that do frame interpolation? I'm considering getting a Darblet, but I'm tired of my 1080p videos being choppy using SVP because my GPU isn't fast enough, and thinking it might be cheaper to buy an outboard device. Any ideas?
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post #3453 of 4968
3/20/13 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

That's interesting because I hear different comments from users in the Darbee thread. In fact, one person said they saw a big difference with the W1070 and the Darblet - - so I'm sure that YMMV - - and it can also depend on your setup (receiver - and if you're doing any processing before hand - - like Marvell QDEO or HQV.)

This is my second "go" at the Darblet since it really didn't do anything for my Samsung 65" LED - - which is already uber sharp.

But I was under the impression that the Darblet's sweet spot was really with projectors - - hence my interest in pairing it with the BenQ.

No external processing being done here and the difference is subtle until pushed too far with the Darblet/w1070 combo.

I have used the Darblet on 8-10 different displays of various tech and each exhibited a fairly obvious difference (although it did vary they all benefitted from the Darblet).

Now I am not implying there is NO benefit, it's there, but I think some users may be pushing the settings higher for more obvious results (which leads to an overly processed look IMHO).


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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Are there any decent devices like the Darblet that do frame interpolation? I'm considering getting a Darblet, but I'm tired of my 1080p videos being choppy using SVP because my GPU isn't fast enough, and thinking it might be cheaper to buy an outboard device. Any ideas?

There is no outboard device as of yet for FI, at least none that I am aware of at the moment.

* I would also guess that a cpu/gpu upgrade would be less costly than whatever standalone device that incorporated FI.


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Here are some fun gaming/animation settings that can be obtained with factory presets (I am just messing around with factory presets before moving on to full calibration)...

preset mode = standard
brightness = 50
contrast = 37 (lowered to maintain color gradation due to BenQ gamma)
Sharpness = 12
lamp power = smart-eco (dynamic lamp)
clarity control = 0
gamma = BenQ (S shaped gamma)
brilliant color = off


Jason
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post #3454 of 4968
3/20/13 at 5:19pm
New review from CNET just posted:

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/benq-w1070/4505-7858_7-35614137.html

I just got the email where they compare home projectors.
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post #3455 of 4968
3/20/13 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

New review from CNET just posted:

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/benq-w1070/4505-7858_7-35614137.html

I just got the email where they compare home projectors.

Review Date: 3/01/13 wink.gif

And much of that review is simply not accurate.

Jason
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post #3456 of 4968
3/20/13 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Review Date: 3/01/13 wink.gif

And much of that review is simply not accurate.

Jason

Not at all. I also would not refer to the Studiotek 130 as a high gain screen, as the reviewer did.
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post #3457 of 4968
3/20/13 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Review Date: 3/01/13 wink.gif

And much of that review is simply not accurate.

Jason

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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Not at all. I also would not refer to the Studiotek 130 as a high gain screen, as the reviewer did.

It wasn't a very in depth review, but I'm wondering what was inaccurate besides their comment on "maximum 1.5X throw ratio".

In the real world (not an AV forum) I would say a 1.3 gain is pretty high, considering the ubiqutous 1.0 screens out there.

I'm hoping Consumer Reports does a projector review so every feature and performance attribute can be distilled down to a single colored dot. rolleyes.gif
Edited by DavidK442 - 3/20/13 at 6:29pm
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post #3458 of 4968
3/20/13 at 6:23pm
plus glasses cost between $25-100, with the 50-60 being close to the benq$99
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post #3459 of 4968
3/20/13 at 7:27pm
Has anyone bought one from Newegg recently? It's at $999 with a $100 gift card and $0.99 shipping. Just wondering what firmware it has
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post #3460 of 4968
3/20/13 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by Nimoy View Post

Was your first machine noisy out of the box. or did the issue develop over time?

It was noisy pretty much out of the box, sometimes louder than other times. Seemed to get worse the longer it was on, but not necessarily with increased fan speed as I run on Eco mode. Sounded like a faulty fan bearing (not sure if they actualy have bearings though?). Over a short time (10-15 hours use) it became permanent and louder. The new W1070 is silent by comparison... 4 hours use so far.
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post #3461 of 4968
3/20/13 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Review Date: 3/01/13 wink.gif

And much of that review is simply not accurate.

Jason

I felt the same way when I read it. Very sloppy review.
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post #3462 of 4968
3/20/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by Dj_Frost View Post

Has anyone bought one from Newegg recently? It's at $999 with a $100 gift card and $0.99 shipping. Just wondering what firmware it has

I would think that they would have it with the latest firmware. Newegg was out of stock for a while.
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post #3463 of 4968
3/20/13 at 8:00pm
I agreed with you guy's 100%, seems that they did not really give it a chance and suggested the Epson 3020 which they had rated it lower then the BenQ.

Here is a good review about of the BenqQ before it arrived here in the USA.


www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/
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post #3464 of 4968
3/20/13 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Center from the lens not the body of the projector.

Jason


Thanks Pimp!

Thanks
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post #3465 of 4968
3/20/13 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by Dj_Frost View Post

Has anyone bought one from Newegg recently? It's at $999 with a $100 gift card and $0.99 shipping. Just wondering what firmware it has

Thanks for the tip. I though I was getting a good deal buy my w1070 from Amazon for $975. How can you beat $1,000 with a $100 gift card. Two new 3D glasses coming up!
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post #3466 of 4968
3/20/13 at 11:10pm
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Originally Posted by jandk4014 View Post

Thanks for the tip. I though I was getting a good deal buy my w1070 from Amazon for $975. How can you beat $1,000 with a $100 gift card. Two new 3D glasses coming up!

Can you link me to their 3d glasses section as I cant find them lol or else I would totally go for the deal if its still around when I have the cash...
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post #3467 of 4968
3/21/13 at 2:17am
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It wasn't a very in depth review, but I'm wondering what was inaccurate besides their comment on "maximum 1.5X throw ratio".

In the real world (not an AV forum) I would say a 1.3 gain is pretty high, considering the ubiqutous 1.0 screens out there.

I'm hoping Consumer Reports does a projector review so every feature and performance attribute can be distilled down to a single colored dot. rolleyes.gif

For us who use an actual HP screen, either 2.4 or 2.8 gain, 1.3 doesn't seem as high. There is a slight bump from 1.0 to 1.3 to me. But that's just me
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post #3468 of 4968
3/21/13 at 2:41am
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Just a heads up guys...

I ordered glasses from ebay seller estore009 and their ad claims 3-4 working days delivery via FedEx, it has been 6 days since I paid and my glasses are still sitting in China at a sort facility after being sent out yesterday (day 5).

Don't fall for their delivery claim of 3-4 days, I'll probably be looking at more like 10 days by the time they arrive.


This is stated right in their ad...


Shipping information

Item will be shipped within 1 working days from China, after full payment is received.Tracking number will be added in eBay system orders upon package shipment.

(1) For shipping from China to US our standard shipping method refers to FedEx Express .

It will take 1 business days Handling time + 2-3 business days Shipping time = 3-4 business days Delivery time to USA.
( Do not include weekends )



http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2X-New-144Hz-Tech-for-BenQ-Optoma-Sharp-Acer-Dell-3D-DLP-Link-Projector-Glasses-/310611988342?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item4851eacf76&clk_rvr_id=460427907796


I ordered Sainsonics from a different seller that was also in China and they arrived within 5 days.

Now I am not complaining here as the shipping is cheap considering the distance but they are not being honest in their ad, so just wanted to make others aware before they order and expect to see them within 3-4 business days. wink.gif

Jason

HI Jason,

I ordered from them and did receive my order within 3 days. That is the only reason I suggested them. First hand positive experience.

Have you complained to them yet? If not do it now.
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post #3469 of 4968
3/21/13 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by OZReddog View Post

HI Jason,

I ordered from them and did receive my order within 3 days. That is the only reason I suggested them. First hand positive experience.

Have you complained to them yet? If not do it now.

I did complain and they did respond... with more dishonesty.

They say they had to hold my glasses in Hong Kong for several days because they have Li-ion battery rolleyes.gif, well if that's the case how did you get yours within 3 days and how did I order other glasses with the same battery tech from China and get them within 5 days..?

They are dishonest plain and simple as they still have not changed their ad if what they are telling me is the truth.

I will likely not see them until next week sometime which will be 12+ days (versus their 3-4 day claim).

They offered compensation and I am going to tell them to change their ad and just be honest with people, that's all I want them to do.

Jason
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post #3470 of 4968
3/21/13 at 6:00am
Another horsesh*t reveiw from CNET on the W1070.

Honestly - - I look at their reviews but hold very little credence in their comments and opinions. I value the feedback of the AVS Forum users far more than CNET.
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post #3471 of 4968
3/21/13 at 7:06am
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I just received the 3D Active DLP glasses from Dimensional Optics. They are the same as the True Depth but are $20 cheaper for two. The glasses even have the same model number on them. They also come with a nice hard case and with AC USB power adapters with a case. The True Depth's do not include AC adapters or cases. If anyone is interested in these glasses I suggest that you call Dimensional Optics directly and ask for the new 144K version. Also ask for free shipping on two or more pairs. Amazon also sells them but they may still have the old ones that does not support 144K . Dimensional Optics just received the new ones on Monday I was told.

I have briefly compared them to the Benq glasses and they are very close in blocking the red flash. They also seem to hold the sync quite well in my dark room and are about half the price of the Benq's. They are much more comfortable over glasses that other pairs I have tried especially the Benq's So far I like them the best and I have tried 5 brands so far. They cost $99.95 for two pairs shipped priority mail but the quality difference and comfort are worth the difference for me compared to the Sansonic or OKBA I highly recommend them.
Edited by rwestley - Today at 5:51 pm

Are you using the 3Active glasses for BD 24p? Don't see any mention of them being 144hz capable. Even on Dimensional Optics' own site, they only list them as being compatible with The BenQ W7000.
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post #3472 of 4968
3/21/13 at 7:14am
If you want good reviews at CNET, then you read a Dave Katzmeier or Geoffrey Morrison review. They are outstanding and know their stuff.

Ty Pendelbury...? Not so much.
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post #3473 of 4968
3/21/13 at 7:33am
I'm thinking of getting a w1070 for my theater room, it is a light controlled room with dark blue flat walls and ceiling. My screen with be 84 inches. What screen gain would you guys recommend? I will be using it for 3d and 2d movie viewing. I was thinking of just a 1.0 gain but I'm worried about the brightness in 3d.
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post #3474 of 4968
3/21/13 at 7:49am
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I'm looking for a projector mounted in the ceiling of a media room, BenQ W1070 is on the top of my short list. Using the projector calculator, it shows that for 125" screen, with 10ft ceiling, 2'8" from floor to screen bottom, the projector should be mounted at 10'5" from the screen at 1x zoom, which is right above the front row seat where I'll be sitting. the room is 17ft long with pre-built conduit and outlet for the projector, which is closer to 14ft from screen. If I mount the projector 13ft from screen to avoid longer exposed cable and power cord, and to avoid noise from the projector right above my head, to get the same size picture, I would need to use 1.25 x zoom of the projector (the max zoom is 1.3). Would that degrade image quality (by pushing zoom almost to its max)?

 

thanks,

 

Jason

 

 

I see my question got buried quickly by other posts, here it is again, please help.

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post #3475 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:00am
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I'm thinking of getting a w1070 for my theater room, it is a light controlled room with dark blue flat walls and ceiling. My screen with be 84 inches. What screen gain would you guys recommend? I will be using it for 3d and 2d movie viewing. I was thinking of just a 1.0 gain but I'm worried about the brightness in 3d.

I'd say 1.0 to a max of 1.3, because of your concern for 3D. This PJ is plenty bright in my non-darkened gaming environment, so in a light controlled situation with dark walls, I can't see gain to be a necessity. A grey screen with a gain of .8 is mostly to compensate for ambient light (which is what I use it for)
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post #3476 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by Ted99 View Post

I'd say 1.0 to a max of 1.3, because of your concern for 3D. This PJ is plenty bright in my non-darkened gaming environment, so in a light controlled situation with dark walls, I can't see gain to be a necessity. A grey screen with a gain of .8 is mostly to compensate for ambient light (which is what I use it for)

A 1.0 screen is the best way to go in your situation. The proj. is very bright and with a 1.0 mat screen there will not be any hotspots.
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post #3477 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Are you using the 3Active glasses for BD 24p? Don't see any mention of them being 144hz capable. Even on Dimensional Optics' own site, they only list them as being compatible with The BenQ W7000.

Yes. Most of the Blu-Ray's I use project in 1080P/24 They work fine. These 3D Activve ones are from new stock and work with the 1070 144K. . Contact them and let them know that you need the 144kz glasses. They are the same as the True Depth and come with the hard cases and power adapters. They also are $20 cheaper for two pairs.
These glasses even have the same model number on them as the True-Depths. Get them only from Demensional Optics since Amazon does not have the new stock yet. They just got the new ones in on Monday. Demensional Optics also offers free shipping on two pairs but you must ask for it. Since they just got them in I guess they have not updated their site yet.

I spent two hours doing A/B tests comparing them to the new Benq's and I feel that they are just as good at half the price. They are also rechargeable. I am really pleased that they block the red flash.
Edited by rwestley - 3/21/13 at 8:17am
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post #3478 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by Ted99 View Post

I'd say 1.0 to a max of 1.3, because of your concern for 3D. This PJ is plenty bright in my non-darkened gaming environment, so in a light controlled situation with dark walls, I can't see gain to be a necessity. A grey screen with a gain of .8 is mostly to compensate for ambient light (which is what I use it for)

I have the W1080ST - - which is essentially the same projector. I have a 1.3 screen in my "man cave" in the basement. I do not find it too bright at all.

I use Smart Eco, Standard (over Cinema - I just like the colors better), Cool, Brilliant Color with brightness at 47 and contrast at 35. I know everyone has different preferences but I do not find this projector too bright, at all, at these settings.

One comment - - the PQ is better in a dark room and the light that is reflected off the screen makes it easy to move around.
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post #3479 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:10am
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

If you want good reviews at CNET, then you read a Dave Katzmeier or Geoffrey Morrison review. They are outstanding and know their stuff.

Ty Pendelbury...? Not so much.

I like Katzmier's writing style but his recommendations on "settings" for my Sammy 65" LCD/LED were God awful.

Geoffrey Morrison provides the best insight and unbiased reviews - - IMHO.
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post #3480 of 4968
3/21/13 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

I have the W1080ST - - which is essentially the same projector. I have a 1.3 screen in my "man cave" in the basement. I do not find it too bright at all.

I use Smart Eco, Standard (over Cinema - I just like the colors better), Cool, Brilliant Color with brightness at 47 and contrast at 35. I know everyone has different preferences but I do not find this projector too bright, at all, at these settings.

One comment - - the PQ is better in a dark room and the light that is reflected off the screen makes it easy to move around.

You probably don't like Cinema because the colors are muted. I haven't measured yet, going to do a full cal either Friday or Saturday night now that I have logged some good hours on the projector, but I can tell that there is some weird stuff going on with Standard lol.

Cinema, User 1, and User 2 are all exactly the same. The colors seem more accurate than those of Standard and, obviously, Dynamic though. Do this. Use either Cinema, User 1 or User 2, your choice, use Warm color temp, go into the Advanced section of Picture and then go into CMS and increase the saturation for each color by 5 or 6 and see if that looks better. You will get more saturation but it will still look better than Standard.
Edited by Stuntman_Mike - 3/21/13 at 8:37am
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