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post #3481 of 8418
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Bravo! I would have tried the USB key first as well, but I have no reason to update yet. Good to know that it works. Btw, for anyone who's interested in these updates, I can get any new or old firmwares/tools/ docs for all BenQ projectors, including the w1080st which has a different firmware obviously. Also the docs tell you exactly what each firmware fixes.

I will let the forum know whenever I detect new updates and share them here. I'd prefer not divulging my source because then it could become...no longer a source.


Thanks for doing this. It is really appreciated. Please DO NOT DISCLOSE YOUR SOURCE as this could cause problems.. A few years ago an Epson firmware leaked and it really helped everyone. I would love to see any future firmware and the docs for the 1070. If at all possible could you post the docs with the information what the firmware fixes and what other changes were made.

Thanks again. I and other forum members would really appreciate this.
Edited by rwestley - 3/22/13 at 9:01am
post #3482 of 8418
Don't worry, I'm keeping it a secret, and I suggest anyone here who has a similar source does the same. (I'm talking to the original russian firmware poster).

I think it's a money-making thing, or a money-loss preventing thing. If we know that upgrading our own firmwares violate our warranties (I bet you they do), we should at least be able to do it. Or even better, they should still fix hardware issues you might encounter but not if you brick your device by accident. I have a busted HDMI port that I want fixed, that will probably require a complete replacement, but I'm waiting for a decent firmware to do it since it's not urgent. Also, I'll put as many hours as I can on it before sending it in, chances are my bulb life will be reset back to 0 and they don't simply transfer over your old bulb into the replacement PJ (that would be pretty cheap)
post #3483 of 8418
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Don't worry, I'm keeping it a secret, and I suggest anyone here who has a similar source does the same. (I'm talking to the original russian firmware poster).

I think it's a money-making thing, or a money-loss preventing thing. If we know that upgrading our own firmwares violate our warranties (I bet you they do), we should at least be able to do it. Or even better, they should still fix hardware issues you might encounter but not if you brick your device by accident. I have a busted HDMI port that I want fixed, that will probably require a complete replacement, but I'm waiting for a decent firmware to do it since it's not urgent. Also, I'll put as many hours as I can on it before sending it in, chances are my bulb life will be reset back to 0 and they don't simply transfer over your old bulb into the replacement PJ (that would be pretty cheap)

When you get a chance could you try to find out what each 1070 firmware update does.
post #3484 of 8418
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Rico with a 3D movie inserted on your 3D player it will find the 3D movie as a set up automatically, if not press the 3D button on the remote but I haven't had any problems with the movies, plug and play.or insert and play.

Thanks, Zapper. do the 3D glasses need to be synced, first? Also - - I notice the fan is a little louder - - due to the lumens required for 3D?
post #3485 of 8418
I'm wondering if the USB key +software can be used to copy off a new firmware from the projector, in case we lose access to future firmwares on the net, then all we'd need is someone with a new firmware rev. to share it to us. It's doubtful that the firmware software will ever change, leaving it entirely up to the community to do with our hardware what we see fit.

Hopefully that won't happen, but it's good to know. Can you check rwestley ? If you can copy it back out.
post #3486 of 8418
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

When you get a chance could you try to find out what each 1070 firmware update does.

Sure thing.
post #3487 of 8418
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

I'm wondering if the USB key +software can be used to copy off a new firmware from the projector, in case we lose access to future firmwares on the net, then all we'd need is someone with a new firmware rev. to share it to us. It's doubtful that the firmware software will ever change, leaving it entirely up to the community to do with our hardware what we see fit.

Hopefully that won't happen, but it's good to know. Can you check rwestley ? If you can copy it back out.

I thought of the same thing but there does not seem to be any way to copy the firmware from the projector. The Benq tool only will copy the settings of a specific unit. It really is not necessary if one writes down their settings before an upgrade.
I will save this and any future firmware updates in a folder on my computer and will be happy to share them with anyone on the forum. I suggest that others do the same. At this point I can't figure a way to copy new revisions from the projector and I doubt if it will be ever possible. I also don't know if it is possible to revert back to an earlier version of the firmware.
post #3488 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

According to benq website the distance is between 7 to 9.1 feet back. Would I be better off putting it as far back and use zoom? I also ordered a cheap glass ND2 filter from ebay. My other option is to go with a 92 inch screen, Costco has it its a high contrast grey screen with .08 gain I'm just worried that it way be to dim for 3d viewing but maybe that's a better option.
Any advice would be great! Thanks

I also found a 92 inch white screen with 1.2 gain with the projector 10 feet back.
Sorry for all the questions I just really don't know much about screens.
post #3489 of 8418
Any Universal remotes like "Harmony" that folks recommend that work best with the W1070?
post #3490 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Any Universal remotes like "Harmony" that folks recommend that work best with the W1070?

I'm wondering this too, have had a hell of a time trying to get a remote control code to work with Brighthouse (UR5U-8790L-BHD) - nothing seems to work.
post #3491 of 8418
I am using the Harmony One and it has all the commands for the BenQ even programmed my remote with them HOWEVER I dont have the projector yet to try this out and see if they all work but I know the Harmony One is capable of learning the IR command directly from the BenQ remote so either way it should work.
post #3492 of 8418
I have an elevated ceiling (about 2 ft 6inches) above the normal 10 ft wall where the screen will be.

Do you have a recommendation on a mount with an extension that will work well for this situation?

Also I am looking at a 110-120 inch screen in a room that is painted in what I would call a slightly darker shade of burgundy. What would be a good screen gain for this? Is there any reason to stay at 110 as far as PQ? Mostly sports with some movies, 3D not a factor.

Thanks for any help, this is my first projector and I've learned a ton reading from you guys. Rock on!!
post #3493 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

I am using the Harmony One and it has all the commands for the BenQ even programmed my remote with them HOWEVER I dont have the projector yet to try this out and see if they all work but I know the Harmony One is capable of learning the IR command directly from the BenQ remote so either way it should work.

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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Any Universal remotes like "Harmony" that folks recommend that work best with the W1070?

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Originally Posted by michaelmadiganj View Post

I'm wondering this too, have had a hell of a time trying to get a remote control code to work with Brighthouse (UR5U-8790L-BHD) - nothing seems to work.

I am using the Harmony One with this projector and it works flawlessly.

As Daniel says, it has all the buttons for the W1070. You don't need to do any additional learning or editing.

Setup was extremely simple from the MyHarmony site. Takes 30secs, literally.
post #3494 of 8418
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Firmware update. Success using USB. I tried the service tool and thought that everything was backed up. I later discover that I was wrong when I tried to write my settings back to the projector. I could not get the firmware to load with the Serial cable. I was getting an error. This could be because I had to use a Serial to USB device. That being said I tried the USB update and had success.

1. I followed the usb directions and it took about 5 minutes to update.
2 I turned the projector back on and everything except lamp use hours returned to the factory settings even the projector position.
3. This was not a problem for me since I had written down all my settings before I did the update.
4 I reset the unit to my settings. I am using Smart Eco, Cinema, Brilliant Color off, Gamma 2.4. I also had to reset the input to auto since I received no signal when I turned the projector on for the first time after the update.
5. If you have version 104 there is probably no reason to update since I was told that 105 corrects a Swedish language issue. (Don't know if it fixed anything else)

I checked the firmware version and I now have 1.05


It seems that it is unnecessary to use the service tool if one writes down one's settings and is not afraid to spend a few minutes imputing them again. I think this is the reason why they have included the USB method since it is much easier for most people.

A word of warning. If you are planning to do the update be sure to read and re-read how to do it. Make sure you choose USB in the DLP composer setting and most important be sure you point to the 105 firmware in the folder you saved it in. I would also write down your settings before you start. I would only suggest doing this update if you are familiar with firmware and bios updates.

The reason why I did it myself is because I did not want to un-mount and re-mount the projector.
A triumph then! Will attempt a USB upgrade tonight. Glad to hear that service tool is not required, spent a good few hours trying to get the thing to connect last night via rs232.
post #3495 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Nimoy View Post

A triumph then! Will attempt a USB upgrade tonight. Glad to hear that service tool is not required, spent a good few hours trying to get the thing to connect last night via rs232.

I also spent quite a bit of time with the rs232 cable. I think they may use a standard vs the null modem cable that others use for updates or the USB-Serial adap might be causing issues. I tried two different ones before I did the
USB update. I wrote down all my settings so it took only a few minutes to put them back in after the upgrade. I would also suggest that wen you plug the USB cable into to your computer when you are in download mode wait a minute or two for the USB drivers to load before doing the update. I did it on the first try with the USB cable. When I put the projector back on there was no signal since I had to turn the source to auto again. Love to see how things work out for you.
post #3496 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

According to benq website the distance is between 7 to 9.1 feet back. Would I be better off putting it as far back and use zoom? I also ordered a cheap glass ND2 filter from ebay. My other option is to go with a 92 inch screen, Costco has it its a high contrast grey screen with .08 gain I'm just worried that it way be to dim for 3d viewing but maybe that's a better option.
Any advice would be great! Thanks

I think 9' would work pretty well with a 94" .08 gain screen, and it will leave you a little "wiggle" room as the bulb ages/dims. You can then try the filter and see if it works for what you want. If it does, then keep it on till the bulb gets dimmer.

I'm not that big on grey screens, but I prefer a brighter image. The grey screen will help produce some better contrast, especially if you have any ambient light in the room. Read this observation, and see if you can make a more informed choice. http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/screens.php BTW, I use Coderguys calc at, http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ to get a good idea of the brightness numbers. He has mentioned however, the lens shift numbers are a little off on the Benq template, so disregard those.
post #3497 of 8418
downloaded w1070_v105.img showing image as winzip do I have to unzip it and put on a dumb drive or what please advice
I am currently running v104 is it worth upgrading?
post #3498 of 8418
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Originally Posted by themagic View Post

downloaded w1070_v105.img showing image as winzip do I have to unzip it and put on a dumb drive or what please advice
I am currently running v104 is it worth upgrading?

No need to upgrade from v104. I was told that 105 just has fixes for Swedish language.
post #3499 of 8418
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

This unit does have more image noise than many other projectors. I have noticed that with more hours on the lamp (still under 100) and running in eco the image noise is less.

Just some things to try...

Turn down sharpness from default (15 is too high, 12 is about as high as sharpness should be set)
Turn the clarity control to 0 since it actually decreases fine detail (it's like DNR and causes clay face)
Drop contrast a couple clicks
Try a 2.4 gamma if viewing in a dark, light controlled room
Run in Eco lamp
Do not set brightness above 50 as (0 IRE) black will dither
Turn off Brilliant Color

Jason


I am still struggling to fully understand Sharpness and Clarity adjustments. What do they do exactly in these digital age? How does one go about making the 'right' adjustment? Are there patterns from calibration disks that you could use to adjust these specific settings?
post #3500 of 8418
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I am still struggling to fully understand Sharpness and Clarity adjustments. What do they do exactly in these digital age? How does one go about making the 'right' adjustment? Are there patterns from calibration disks that you could use to adjust these specific settings?
Setting the sharpness control too high will cause some artificial noise in the image, you can set it with patterns yes. I use the sharpness pattern from Lagom.com to set it on a PS3.

The clarity control I think is the image noise reduction control, it's just another name. Personally, I dont like any noise reduction in the image as I learned the higher you go with the control, the more detail you lose. There's not really any patterns to set that.
post #3501 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

Setting the sharpness control too high will cause some artificial noise in the image, you can set it with patterns yes. I use the sharpness pattern from Lagom.com to set it on a PS3.

The clarity control I think is the image noise reduction control, it's just another name. Personally, I dont like any noise reduction in the image as I learned the higher you go with the control, the more detail you lose. There's not really any patterns to set that.


Thanks, Is there a sharpness pattern on the AVS disc? Anyone know.
post #3502 of 8418
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

I think 9' would work pretty well with a 94" .08 gain screen, and it will leave you a little "wiggle" room as the bulb ages/dims. You can then try the filter and see if it works for what you want. If it does, then keep it on till the bulb gets dimmer.

I'm not that big on grey screens, but I prefer a brighter image. The grey screen will help produce some better contrast, especially if you have any ambient light in the room. Read this observation, and see if you can make a more informed choice. http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/screens.php BTW, I use Coderguys calc at, http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ to get a good idea of the brightness numbers. He has mentioned however, the lens shift numbers are a little off on the Benq template, so disregard those.

Thanks for the reply, there's also a 1.2 gain 92 inch I'm looking at I could put it 10 feet back and use the filter for 2d and take it off for 3d. I like a brighter image as well and I'm worried about brightness in 3d I want it to look amazing, I'm sick of the dimmer 3d my vt50 puts out.thanks for the link it was exactly what I needed.
post #3503 of 8418
Thanks for the quick respond will hold off on firmware update
post #3504 of 8418
I highly recommend using the Peerless Universal Projector mount, you can get different extensions and ceiling mounts for the extensions to.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TXNS6G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post #3505 of 8418
I used this one. They have more in different lengths. Worst directions ever. Lots of extra parts. But it does seem to work well.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10911&cs_id=1091102&p_id=8803&seq=1&format=2
post #3506 of 8418
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Thanks, Zapper. do the 3D glasses need to be synced, first? Also - - I notice the fan is a little louder - - due to the lumens required for 3D?

I should post this after I see another 3D movie in which I am about to watch, believe that at first messed around the 3D button and got the FRAME Packing 3D mode, and then everything was OK from then on. Haven't had a fan noise yet, so far.or should say besides at startup
Edited by zapper - 3/22/13 at 7:29pm
post #3507 of 8418
Anyone have a guide for calibrating w1070 using an eye one lt

I used to have a 1080ub and used stereomans guide which was good

But it does not relate well to the w1070

Thank denis
post #3508 of 8418
Could one of you owners help me out please, I need to know how much lens shift can move the image, I'm planing on a 92 in screen. I've read it moves the image 10%, does that mean I should be able to move it 9 inches up or down? Thanks
post #3509 of 8418
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Originally Posted by michaelmadiganj View Post

I'm wondering this too, have had a hell of a time trying to get a remote control code to work with Brighthouse (UR5U-8790L-BHD) - nothing seems to work.

I'm using the Harmony 900 with mine. No problems at all.
post #3510 of 8418
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Originally Posted by themagic View Post

Thanks for the quick respond will hold off on firmware update

There's a thread on AVS about the foolishness of updating firmware unnecessarily. i.e. don't do it unless you're absolutely sure you need to.
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