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post #361 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by mekret View Post

Where did you find your ZD201s?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optoma-ZD201-DLP-Link-3D-Glasses/dp/B004J457JC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354494592&sr=8-1
Price went up a bit (2- 3 pounds). Just make sure you buy when it says "Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk." otherwise they don't ship to Canada. Turned out to be ~200 all included for 2 pairs (shipping, duties and taxes). The BenQ D3 are 85 + taxes from costco, 100 + taxes + shipping at NCIX (or 80 + shipping + taxes if you buy then at the same time as the W1070).
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post #362 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:37pm
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optoma-ZD201-DLP-Link-3D-Glasses/dp/B004J457JC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354494592&sr=8-1
Price went up a bit (2- 3 pounds). Just make sure you buy when it says "Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk." otherwise they don't ship to Canada. Turned out to be ~200 all included for 2 pairs (shipping, duties and taxes). The BenQ D3 are 85 + taxes from costco, 100 + taxes + shipping at NCIX (or 80 + shipping + taxes if you buy then at the same time as the W1070).

Already have the D3s. smile.gif

Just ordered ZDs, thanks.
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post #363 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:38pm
So when is this coming out in the US? I am in the market for a new projector, my Mits HD1000u is a little long in the tooth and just had to reset bulb so not much like in the thing now. for about $1k this looks like it might be good. Any idea how it does in gaming?
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post #364 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by mekret View Post

Already have the D3s. smile.gif
Just ordered ZDs, thanks.

What is your impression of D3 glasses?
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post #365 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:50pm
ZD201 works with W1070 as Kraine said, although it is not 144hz
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post #366 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by mekret View Post

Already have the D3s. smile.gif
Just ordered ZDs, thanks.

Good. Let us know how they fare. I'm tempted to get a set of D3 just to compare.. but the $$$ adds up quickly!
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post #367 of 4949
12/2/12 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

What is your impression of D3 glasses?

Nice, although pretty useless until I get the projector. :P
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post #368 of 4949
12/2/12 at 7:45pm
First impressions: Awesome, mostly! My projector was delivered today from NCIX. I have pretty limited experience with projectors, but the picture is pretty comparable to the Acer H5360 it's replacing, except 1080p.


The good:

Black levels and contrast are a little better but not a class above the Acer (which is also darkchip3).
Sharpness is great and I can't see any lines between pixels from where I sit (~8 ft from a 100" screen).
No RBE to my eyes.


The bad:

Smart eco seems to enable the dynamic lamp and it's horrible! The brightness increases and decreases in steps instead of smoothly. It's very distracting.
I couldn't get smooth playback of 23.976 content by setting my HTPC display to 23(.976)hz. There was noticeable judder, and I had to set the refresh rate to 24hz and use reclock to get smooth playback.
48hz seems to render incorrectly, the image is over contrasted with VERY crushed blacks.


The indifferent:

The picture out of the box was a green tinted, but looks good after some quick adjustment. 
Blacks are crushed at 50 brightness. 51 brightness is perfect.
The 3D sync seems red flash not white flash.
Edited by Nayr2 - 12/2/12 at 8:49pm
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post #369 of 4949
12/2/12 at 8:03pm
Firmware 1.02. 3D glasses should come tomorrow, I bought BenQ glasses but they were not shipped together.
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post #370 of 4949
12/2/12 at 10:33pm
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Originally Posted by Nayr2 View Post

Firmware 1.02. 3D glasses should come tomorrow, I bought BenQ glasses but they were not shipped together.

looking forward for your 3D test.
Here is Kraine's settings you may try, firmware was 0.8, but it may work:
red
grade: 39
gain: 68
54 saturation
green
grade: 51
gain: 61
53 saturation
blue
grade: 53
gain: 53
52 saturation
yellow
grade: 60
gain: 55
47 saturation
cyan
grade: 56
gain: 54
52 saturation
magenta
grade: 66
gain: 59
60 saturation

RGB levels
51 red gain
Green gain 49
blue 50 gain
Red Shift 254
Green Shift 256
blue shift 253
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post #371 of 4949
12/3/12 at 1:44am
And were off to the races, can't wait to hear more! biggrin.gif
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post #372 of 4949
12/3/12 at 3:51am
First post!

I think I'm ready to get this projector! It's been a good four years with my trusty Sanyo PLC-XW50 but it's time to move on from 1024x768.
I'm skipping 720P and moving straight to 1080P.

So, where is cheapest place to get this projector now?
I'm in the UK.

Projectorpoint is showing as £706
http://www.projectorpoint.co.uk/projectors/BenQ_W1070.html

Computeruniverse is EUR 754 = £612
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90491948/benq-w1070-3d.asp?ac=true&searchname=benq%20w10

And Amazon claims to be unavailable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-Deutschland-GmbH-9H-J7L77-17E-W1070/dp/B009SJB6F2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3KX8RSBIV4U2Z&coliid=I39RVGYHC7N7DZ

Can anyone do better?
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post #373 of 4949
12/3/12 at 4:28am
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Originally Posted by xiaoda View Post

First post!
I think I'm ready to get this projector! It's been a good four years with my trusty Sanyo PLC-XW50 but it's time to move on from 1024x768.
I'm skipping 720P and moving straight to 1080P.
So, where is cheapest place to get this projector now?
I'm in the UK.
Projectorpoint is showing as £706
http://www.projectorpoint.co.uk/projectors/BenQ_W1070.html
Computeruniverse is EUR 754 = £612
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90491948/benq-w1070-3d.asp?ac=true&searchname=benq%20w10
And Amazon claims to be unavailable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-Deutschland-GmbH-9H-J7L77-17E-W1070/dp/B009SJB6F2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3KX8RSBIV4U2Z&coliid=I39RVGYHC7N7DZ
Can anyone do better?

UK retailers are starting to get stock, but it's slow. Some big differences in cost, when in the USA can be had between £620-650, and I know we have 20% VAT, but it sucks.

ProjectorPoint appears the best price atm, £706+£9 shipping. Computeruniverse is a great price, but that would attract 20% VAT?
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post #374 of 4949
12/3/12 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by Nayr2 View Post

First impressions: Awesome, mostly! My projector was delivered today from NCIX. I have pretty limited experience with projectors, but the picture is pretty comparable to the Acer H5360 it's replacing, except 1080p.
The good:
Black levels and contrast are a little better but not a class above the Acer (which is also darkchip3).
Sharpness is great and I can't see any lines between pixels from where I sit (~8 ft from a 100" screen).
No RBE to my eyes.
The bad:
Smart eco seems to enable the dynamic lamp and it's horrible! The brightness increases and decreases in steps instead of smoothly. It's very distracting.
I couldn't get smooth playback of 23.976 content by setting my HTPC display to 23(.976)hz. There was noticeable judder, and I had to set the refresh rate to 24hz and use reclock to get smooth playback.
48hz seems to render incorrectly, the image is over contrasted with VERY crushed blacks.
The indifferent:
The picture out of the box was a green tinted, but looks good after some quick adjustment. 
Blacks are crushed at 50 brightness. 51 brightness is perfect.
The 3D sync seems red flash not white flash.

Smart Eco appears to be useless, unless you can tame the brightness pops in the settings.
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post #375 of 4949
12/3/12 at 5:17am
So I suppose contrast measurement in Kraine test was done in Smart Eco mode, which explains the high number (~4247:1). http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/344-Benq-W1070-5.html
So there's no revolution here, but 2900:1 native is still decent.

Red flash is good news.

I think W1070 can now be officially considered as the HD33 killer. Competition is a great thing smile.gif
Edited by Ilya Volk - 12/3/12 at 5:40am
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post #376 of 4949
12/3/12 at 5:30am
OMG...all these posts...can´t wait to get mine biggrin.gif Should arrive next week. My new 90" screen is put up, 3D glasses and ceiling mount ordered....good Christmas this year!!
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post #377 of 4949
12/3/12 at 5:35am
By the way, Kraine reports minimal brightness is 1216 lumens, which is too high, I believe.
So, perhaps W1070 can benefit from ND (2 or even 4) filter for 2D movies? Nayr what do you think?
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post #378 of 4949
12/3/12 at 6:10am
when is this coming to the US?
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post #379 of 4949
12/3/12 at 6:41am
Would there be any problem if I bought in the US and brought it back in my luggage?
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post #380 of 4949
12/3/12 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by xiaoda View Post

Would there be any problem if I bought in the US and brought it back in my luggage?

You would need to declare the goods & certainly have to pay customs duty, VAT etc. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/arrivingnoneu.htm

Might be best to join avforums website and start a thread to see how many are interested in the w1070, for a possible 'group' discount with the best competitive EU/UK retailer, eg. +10 order might attract a nice discount.
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post #381 of 4949
12/3/12 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by beamernovice View Post

You would need to declare the goods & certainly have to pay customs duty, VAT etc. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/arrivingnoneu.htm
Might be best to join avforums website and start a thread to see how many are interested in the w1070, for a possible 'group' discount with the best competitive EU/UK retailer, eg. +10 order might attract a nice discount.

Thanks for the link. Why avforums website, and not here? Is that one more UK-centric?
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post #382 of 4949
12/3/12 at 8:46am
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By the way, Kraine reports minimal brightness is 1216 lumens, which is too high, I believe.
So, perhaps W1070 can benefit from ND (2 or even 4) filter for 2D movies? Nayr what do you think?

Yes, I think it would benefit. I tried some of the darker scenes in "Cowboys and Aliens", and the black levels were bright enough to be distracting. That said, it's better than the Acer I had and the few other budget projectors I've seen.
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post #383 of 4949
12/3/12 at 9:03am
can you measure the diameter of lens and the cavity around it please. I plan to order one now. When I bought Hoya ND2 filter for Benq W7000, it improved the haloes and sharpness. and made the picture more watchable.
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post #384 of 4949
12/3/12 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

can you measure the diameter of lens and the cavity around it please. I plan to order one now. When I bought Hoya ND2 filter for Benq W7000, it improved the haloes and sharpness. and made the picture more watchable.

But then do you have to run the projector in "normal mode" instead of eco? On the W1070, this could turn out to be quite noisy..
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post #385 of 4949
12/3/12 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by mart242 View Post

But then do you have to run the projector in "normal mode" instead of eco? On the W1070, this could turn out to be quite noisy..
In W7000 with ND2 filter on eco mode it was bright enough. I even watched 3D with ND2 filter and picture still great, but it needed calibration.
W7000 3D mode measured 400 lumens though glasses, and people still think its 3D is the best and bright enough.
In W1070 you are supposed to get 600 lumens with ND2 filter.
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post #386 of 4949
12/3/12 at 9:30am
Another peson Used ND4 filter with W7000 on 135" screen and he loved it.
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post #387 of 4949
12/3/12 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by Nayr2 View Post

Yes, I think it would benefit. I tried some of the darker scenes in "Cowboys and Aliens", and the black levels were bright enough to be distracting. That said, it's better than the Acer I had and the few other budget projectors I've seen.

Thanks for giving your honest impression of this new BenQ projector. The dark scenes in Cowboys and Aliens are absolutely brutal on any display without stellar black levels so it makes a great reference for comparisons.
Your comments are especially relevant to me because I am currently using the Acer 5360 as you were.
Not interested in 3D and although 1080p would be nice I will keep the $1000 bucks in my pocket to multiply over the next couple of years.
Enjoy your upgrade.
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post #388 of 4949
12/3/12 at 10:11am
Bad news, a newer owner said ZD201 glasses dont work, it must be 144hz glasses
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post #389 of 4949
12/3/12 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

Bad news, a newer owner said ZD201 glasses dont work, it must be 144hz glasses

Crap. Just what I needed. I guess that I'll order a pair of BenQ's just in case. frown.gif

What waste of money that was (ZD201 + 2 other paids that are 120Hz on Ebay). I'll have to put them for sale.
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post #390 of 4949
12/3/12 at 10:28am
Glad I waited then, looks like it'll be the Benq glasses for me in the end after all.
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