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post #3721 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Quick query.

I've seen a few people say they prefer glasses with removable CR2032 batteries to glasses that have rechargeable ones. I'm just curious why? According to specs, glasses with a removable CR2032 battery will last for 70hrs of use. Many rechargeable glasses say that they will last 40-60hrs on a single charge. Assuming you can recharge them 20, 30, 50, 100 times, why would those that prefer the non-rechargeable variety... prefer the non-rechargeable variety lol.

I find the non-rechargeable glasses to be much more convenient. If a pair of glasses stops working in the middle of a movie you can just put in a new battery and you're good to go. With the rechargeables, you have to plug them in somewhere for a couple of hours before you can continue the movie. I guess you could always "top them up" after each viewing, but that's kind of a pain if you have to charge multiple pairs each time you use them. The only advantage I see to the rechargeables is that you will save quite a bit of money in the long run.
post #3722 of 8499
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Originally Posted by sigma957 View Post

The only advantage I see to the rechargeables is that you will save quite a bit of money in the long run.

That's a pretty big advantage, no? Especially when you are talking to people on a forum dedicated to a budget projector lol.
post #3723 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Ricoflashback View Post

Got it - - I still do not see any - - but I do see the "red screen' when it changes to 3D - - but no flash thereafter. My entire screen is a "red hue" - - then the picture is in 3D with no perceptible flashing.

Do you see the red hue on black parts of the image though when wearing the glasses?

May be hard to tell if you have no other glasses as a frame of reference.
post #3724 of 8499
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Both pairs are comfortable compared to some others. I like the black ones with the large rims the best. There is also an issue with the OKBA ones also being sold with various names. There is a l/R switch on the top and I have found that I had to reset it a few times. These light ones also feel cheap.

You sure you're not mistaken about the new 3DTV Corp's being the same as the OKEBA's? They don't look the same:

http://www.amazon.com/Active-Shutter-Rechargeable-Glasses-Projectors/dp/B007M7GG2U/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364407561&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=okba+3d+glasses

Edit:

Never mind. Found a different model that does look like the new 3DTV's.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Rechargeable-Projector-Viewsonic-Mitsubishi/dp/B00AASENXC
post #3725 of 8499
Ya but the same argument could be said about cell phones, mice, game controllers, etc. I prefer charging my PS3 controllers than swapping out the batteries AND recharging my Xbox controller. Plus the usb ones you can charge while watching the movie, if you have a usb extender + splitter. Ideally what you'd really want is some rechargable via USB ones that you can also remove/replace the battery, but I don't think they make those small batteries in rechargeable format.
post #3726 of 8499
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

But it's not reporting actual use, they are basing it on their Smart-Eco mode (marketing) and even that is not going to be an accurate measure since viewing habits vary (and as such so does the power sent to the lamp).

You are looking at it from their point of view and not the end user that pays for the product with certain expectations, lamp life being one of those even if it is not achieved.

The first person that gets 501+ hours, according to the counter, on a failed lamp and BenQ says sorry the warranty is only for 500 hours we'll see the $4l7 hitting the fan because actual 'real time' use is less for anyone running eco or especially normal where the gap is far more.

I purchased the unit and can make the choice to run in any lamp mode that I desire, if I use Normal and understand that it is rated for 3500 hours yet the counter shows 1.7 hours for every actual hour the REAL TIME use is much less than what the counter shows.

This is all just simple logic, they are toying with the consumer based on their smart-eco marketing specification, plain and simple.


*Sorry ERuiz but your analogy does not apply here either. Every other projector that I have ever owned has shown REAL TIME use regardless of lamp mode just as it should. It's not too difficult to understand that the higher lamp mode will mean less hours of use but that does not mean they should play games with the lamp counter.

You guys are simply not seeing the big picture here (no pun intended wink.gif).
Hehe, that's really simple, you leave the counter alone to count in real time so the consumer knows how many hours he actually has on the lamp with the understanding that lamp life will be less using Normal versus Eco.

Obviously the Normal mode lamp would have more wear (less life left) and that has been understood by projector buying consumers for decades. We obviously don't expect to see the counter reach 5000 in Normal unless the specification is such.

I am sorry here guys but I think both of you are over analyzing and somewhat misunderstanding the point. I have owned projectors for the last 12+ years and this is the first projector that I have seen mess with the lamp counter in such a manner and I see no logical reason for BenQ to change what should be a real time lamp counter other than for their own marketing reasons, the consumer does not benefit here and this will only lend itself to more confusion for the average user.

I am not arguing with you guys by the way, just hoping to clarify enough that you see my point. smile.gif


* One other quick point... think of how happy someone is going to be when their lamp burns up at (according to the counter) 3500 hours while running in Normal mode even though REAL TIME use was actually much less (3500 is the rated spec for Normal). They are adding almost 43 minutes to the lamp counter for every actual hour used in Normal mode. wink.gif


Jason
to much time spent on worrying about bulb life. Watch it. Enjoy the time spent with it. If you are truly worried about bulb life per user, then you need to figure out your own useage habbits and apply them to your own real time counter. Counting bulb life hours on a projector is like worrying about gas mileage in a one ton truck.....if your buying it for fuel economy you will be seriously dissapointed
post #3727 of 8499
/Sigh, litigous americans. I mean, now that you know how it's calculated, you should be able to work back from that, and any argument that you've been misled is null and void. You know how it's calculated, you can also tally your own usage. The adjusted result should add up. If anything, their formula is intended to be MORE precise than a straight up figure, since lamp life expectancy is a pretty well known thing and I don't think it's even predictable when a particular lamp will fail, other than statistically. Which you are not privvy to, nor I, nor BenQ. Knowing the exact proportions of Normal/Eco/Smart Eco only allows you to verify that their calculator is working, not tell you that your bulb should fail on June 18th, 2015.

Everyone should use SmartEco all the time, anyway, IMO. then it's just a matter of dividing by that factor. I'm sure there is an internal counter for the real hours, but even if there isn't, it's an estimate, and you'll be very hard pressed to argue in court with fancy lawyers over a 200 dollar replacement bulb.

Just relax guys.
post #3728 of 8499
I'll say this one final time as this is getting silly...

You guys are missing the point and I never said anything about taking BenQ to court. confused.gif

BenQ is manipulating the lamp counter to suit their Smart-Eco marketing.

Real time counters have been in use for decades on projectors, this way the consumer knows actual use, period.

Give us a real time counter and tell us the lamp life expectancy for each mode, then allow the end user to make their choice knowing that what the lamp counter shows is real time actual use (not manipulated based upon a marketing specification).

I don't think it is realistic to expect there are a bunch of users sitting around changing lamp modes constantly.

We all grasp that higher powered lamp modes mean less lamp life, this is not rocket science.

Logic wins here regardless of the 'who cares' attitude that some wish to take, and that is fine it's your right, but this does not make the issue null and void.

It's pretty simple, if Normal mode is claimed 3500 hours and the lamp fails when the counter shows around 3500 hours the actual use will have been far less than 3500 hours, for those that do not see an issue with that I honestly do not know what else to say.

If anything their Smart-Eco mode should be the mode that is time manipulated since it varies power to the lamp based upon content, which means it varies for every single user.

Some of you forget that not every single person that buys a projector is here on AVS reading everything about it daily, we are in a minority here.

If people end up getting actual real time use that is far less than what BenQ claims we'll see the complaints flourish on this site in this thread, wait and see...


I am not suggesting anyone sit around stressing over lamp use, this is simply a factual discussion of the projector that this thread is based upon and for those that cannot handle reading about all aspects, be they good or bad, you are possibly on the wrong forum. I have owned some awesome projectors over the last 12+ years and they have all had their pros/cons and been picked apart here at AVS. I for one appreciate knowing all the ins and outs and I also take a 100% honest approach to AV with no sugar coating, hyperbole or purchase justification.

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Jason
post #3729 of 8499
Being an American has nothing to do with it, its called telling the truth.

I completely agree with TGP. Can't believe people are okay with this. This is a way to avoid warranty claims, and possibly also to match their marketing claims on lamp life.

I like the suggestion given in this thread...if you are going to fudge the numbers, have an actual hour counter as well that is made up of 60 minutes!
post #3730 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

You sure you're not mistaken about the new 3DTV Corp's being the same as the OKEBA's? They don't look the same:

http://www.amazon.com/Active-Shutter-Rechargeable-Glasses-Projectors/dp/B007M7GG2U/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364407561&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=okba+3d+glasses

Edit:

Never mind. Found a different model that does look like the new 3DTV's.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Rechargeable-Projector-Viewsonic-Mitsubishi/dp/B00AASENXC


Very interesting. The pictures are different. I am guessing that OKBA is just a marketing company and they sell different models. The OKBA model I was referring to is GL022 on the box. They look like the red and blue ones being sold now by 3DTV. It seems that a few manufactures O.E.M. them for anyone. The first link looks like the same ones SanSonic is selling but I could be wrong.
post #3731 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

That's a pretty big advantage, no? Especially when you are talking to people on a forum dedicated to a budget projector lol.
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Not really when the batteries can be bought on Amazon for less than 20cents each. The other thing to remember is that rechargeable batteries don't last forever and if they die you can throw the glasses away. It has happened to me.
post #3732 of 8499
Every one is talking about the red flash on the 3D glasses when watching a 3D movie, can someone take a picture of one if its possible??? In my case haven't seen one yet then again do not know what to look for so ignorance is a bliss.
post #3733 of 8499
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Every one is talking about the red flash on the 3D glasses when watching a 3D movie, can someone take a picture of one if its possible??? In my case haven't seen one yet then again do not know what to look for so ignorance is a bliss.

Once again, there is NO visible flash. It just looks red. Put on a 3D movie and don't put on glasses. Look at the screen. Does the image look unusually red? That is what's called "red flash." It's NOT a visible flash. Just red. But it is still called red flash for technical reasons.

Glasses are supposed to mask the red and make the image look normal again. Some glasses do that better than others.
post #3734 of 8499
Does any one have the firmware 1.04 just to keep on file with 1.05
Just in case in the future I need to revert from 1.05
If so please post thanks a million
post #3735 of 8499
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

I'll say this one final time as this is getting silly...

You guys are missing the point and I never said anything about taking BenQ to court. confused.gif

BenQ is manipulating the lamp counter to suit their Smart-Eco marketing.

Real time counters have been in use for decades on projectors, this way the consumer knows actual use, period.

Give us a real time counter and tell us the lamp life expectancy for each mode, then allow the end user to make their choice knowing that what the lamp counter shows is real time actual use (not manipulated based upon a marketing specification).

I don't think it is realistic to expect there are a bunch of users sitting around changing lamp modes constantly.

We all grasp that higher powered lamp modes mean less lamp life, this is not rocket science.

Logic wins here regardless of the 'who cares' attitude that some wish to take, and that is fine it's your right, but this does not make the issue null and void.

It's pretty simple, if Normal mode is claimed 3500 hours and the lamp fails when the counter shows around 3500 hours the actual use will have been far less than 3500 hours, for those that do not see an issue with that I honestly do not know what else to say.

If anything their Smart-Eco mode should be the mode that is time manipulated since it varies power to the lamp based upon content, which means it varies for every single user.

Some of you forget that not every single person that buys a projector is here on AVS reading everything about it daily, we are in a minority here.

If people end up getting actual real time use that is far less than what BenQ claims we'll see the complaints flourish on this site in this thread, wait and see...


I am not suggesting anyone sit around stressing over lamp use, this is simply a factual discussion of the projector that this thread is based upon and for those that cannot handle reading about all aspects, be they good or bad, you are possibly on the wrong forum. I have owned some awesome projectors over the last 12+ years and they have all had their pros/cons and been picked apart here at AVS. I for one appreciate knowing all the ins and outs and I also take a 100% honest approach to AV with no sugar coating, hyperbole or purchase justification.

smile.gif
Jason

Jason,

Very professional statement. I am impressed with your ability to make a point. Writing must be in your job profile somewhere. If not, it should have been.
post #3736 of 8499
I cannot get 3D content to play. I'm using a 3D Blu Ray (Avengers) on a Panasonic 3D Blu Ray player. I cannot get the BenQ to go into 3D AUTO mode. Auto is just not available. What's the problem. Anyone else have that problem?

Thanks,
JayW
post #3737 of 8499
that problem has been asked lots of times......

the bd player needed to be in 1080 24p mode. and out putting frame packing



i just got my projector back from benq with a FREE firmware update, they paid for postage there and back.
post #3738 of 8499
Thanks. But it IS in 1080 24p mode. Is there anything else to check?
post #3739 of 8499
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Originally Posted by jayw View Post

I cannot get 3D content to play. I'm using a 3D Blu Ray (Avengers) on a Panasonic 3D Blu Ray player. I cannot get the BenQ to go into 3D AUTO mode. Auto is just not available. What's the problem. Anyone else have that problem?

Thanks,
JayW


When you insert the 3D into your player and the BenQ starts searching for the source get your remote and hit the 3D button on the remote and when you are on the 3D menu go to the second box and set it to frame packing or something similar and you should be OK, hope that this helps. Good Luck.
post #3740 of 8499
what do you see on screen?
post #3741 of 8499
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Originally Posted by dzenc View Post

Once again, there is NO visible flash. It just looks red. Put on a 3D movie and don't put on glasses. Look at the screen. Does the image look unusually red? That is what's called "red flash." It's NOT a visible flash. Just red. But it is still called red flash for technical reasons.

Glasses are supposed to mask the red and make the image look normal again. Some glasses do that better than others.


Gotcha, thanks then my glasses are doing their job, it looks great.
post #3742 of 8499
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

The other good thing is that this lamp cost is much less expensive than many others.

Do you have a part number, source (that will ship outside USA) and a price? Thanks.

This is something I tried to check before buying the projector but could find nothing on the net. I put it down to the W1070 being very new and the lamps all being under warranty. I would like to know how much it would cost to replace the lamp just for general interest.

Amazon US is Annoying:

Might I add that it annoys me greatly that US Amazon have some good deals, such as some of the 3D glasses mentioned above, BUT they will not ship them outside of the USA. WHY NOT??? They happily ship almost everything else that is not 110v.

I had the same thing when I was looking for a 4 x 2 HDMI switcher. US Amazon had a good price but would not ship to Australia, excuse the 5vDC power pack was 110v. Now I purchased an IDENTICAL ONE via ebay and had it shipped in a week. Opened the package and found that the power pack was dual voltage 110 - 240v so it worked here no problems. I find US Amazon freaky and without logic at times! UK Amazon does not seem to have these problems. Go figure.
Edited by OZReddog - 3/27/13 at 5:55pm
post #3743 of 8499
There are several sites selling the lamp in the US. Some are OEM and others are aftermarket lamps.

http://www.focusedtechnology.com/ag-5j-j7l05-001-benq.html?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&id=19154206696&utm_content=pla&gclid=CKHFspqdnrYCFUWd4Aod_1kApw

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Projector-Lamp-BENQ-W1070-/271135127618

http://www.projectorlampgenie.com/us/benq-w1070-original-lamp.html?m1track=googlebase&gclid=CPKm-eCdnrYCFYbc4AodeXYA6g

I would not be surprised to see even lower prices in the coming months considering how many of these projectors are being sold.

It is too bad that Amazon will not ship electronic items outside of the US. The same is true of the UK site shipping to the US.
post #3744 of 8499
Each Amazon is completely independent of the other. amazon.co.uk is NOT amazon.usa. The only part that is the same is "'Amazon" name.... Not affiliated at all with each other. Had this problem with amazon.co.uk in which amazon.usa could NOT help at all.....
post #3745 of 8499
If I wanted to buy a couple bulbs just to have as spares and for whatever reason ever stopped being produced what would you say is the best way to store them?

Oh and the rest of the glasses came in so Im all set, sadly I just missed the fedex guy so I will have to try to get my projector tomorrow frown.gif




Edited by Daniel Chaves - 3/27/13 at 6:49pm
post #3746 of 8499
I agree completely with the pimp on the lamp hour issue.

Going back to the analogy between lamp hours and gas mileage, most vehicles give you an estimated mileage you can expect while city driving (normal mode) and one for highway driving (eco mode).

Obviously the true mileage you will get is somewhere in between because there will be a mixture of driving situations but the mileage reading (lamp hours) is not altered in any way to make it seem like you are doing more miles than you actually are.

It is up to the individual to know their driving habitas so they can estimate how many miles they will get to a tank.
post #3747 of 8499
Do anyone have BenQ W1070 firmware 1.04 need to have it for backup.
Thanks in advance
post #3748 of 8499
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Originally Posted by wanab View Post

Each Amazon is completely independent of the other. amazon.co.uk is NOT amazon.usa. The only part that is the same is "'Amazon" name.... Not affiliated at all with each other. Had this problem with amazon.co.uk in which amazon.usa could NOT help at all.....

Partially true. They are still owned for the most part by Jeff B. the founder of Amazon. Their support and service are as you said not affiliated
post #3749 of 8499
Just got this projector today. Really great so far everything is looking real good. This projector obviously didnt come with any glasses. Im having a hard time figuring out exactly which glasses are compatible and which are not. Which glasses are compatible and which do you guys think are the best for this projector?
post #3750 of 8499
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Originally Posted by kingmatt811 View Post

Just got this projector today. Really great so far everything is looking real good. This projector obviously didnt come with any glasses. Im having a hard time figuring out exactly which glasses are compatible and which are not. Which glasses are compatible and which do you guys think are the best for this projector?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448720/benq-w1070-144hz-compatible-dlp-link-3d-glasses

but for the most part

Benq D3 is the best followed by TrueDepths, then 3dTV Corp followed by Monoprice
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