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post #481 of 4968
Just want to get the word out on an issue. As im told, the ONLY reason any HDMI display will not output 1080p at 120hz is because there is a bandwidth limitation in the current 224mhz HDMI 1.4a port processor -the chip which receives the signal video signal. 300mhz is all that is needed and yet they have been available for over a year now. The 224mhz chips are $4 -5 dollars, the 300mhz chips are only $6.75. If this frustrates you like it does me, give your display maker and call and inquire.

300mhz HDMI port processor: http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=47215
post #482 of 4968
I'll take a look at the other settings, like lens shift (honestly I don't remember much, I think I am using it already).

I've been too busy to upload any pics to some website to share yet, sorry I've been enjoying this too much! My g/f came over yesterday and we played a bunch of games and watched The Descent in 6.1 - it was insanely cool. We jumped out of our seats several times. Gotta love someone who enjoys horror movies and video games. I played some Skyrim and it was sublime. I LOVE the fluidity of the motion on this. Virtually no lag (I program video games for a living, and have my plasma on side by side to compare. No complaints)

Couple things. The brightness on this BenQ is great. The noise is fine out of the box, three feet above my head. I may build an enclosure one day, but for now it's quite unbothersome. Again, no RBE that I can see. The only thing I will try and improve it the contrast by a dedicated screen.

I just messed around in various settings and lamp modes, and it seemed to get louder by a smidge. I'll probably run the lamp into the ground in eco mode. I really enjoy owning this. I will probably splurge for an refurb A-lens in the new year, after I build a CinemaScope SILVER screen. I think it'll be worth it. Heck, it's already super worth good already. I think my white wall is gonna get a paint job soon smile.gif But I may be moving to another city in the new year so I can't really justify spending too much right now.

My advice to anyone out there on a budget of less than 2k : Do not hesitate to buy this. Right now. Even if you don't get the awesome deal for 850$ we early birds at NCIX, it's still worth it IMO. I feel so lucky I took the risk when I did. Being a fan of 3D, I wonder if one day I'll feel like there are better options out there, but I'll probably use + abuse this one for a couple years until another crazy deal presents itself. My girl was in awe at this. Said it was quote "so cool. really sharp, like having your own IMAX at home". Me, being a perfectionist, will probably find ways to make it better, but that's part of the game, dawg. Part of the game.
Edited by RLBURNSIDE - 12/9/12 at 1:24pm
post #483 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

I feel so lucky I took the risk when I did.

The only thing that pissed me off is the ZD201 that I sent back to Amazon UK today (let's hope they make it there and I get my money back) other than that yes, it's fantastic.
post #484 of 4968
How big an image are you using? I find it's plenty bright even in economy lamp mode at 120 inches in 16:9. With an anamorphic lens and a good screen I think it should be do-able to have a 2:40 : 1 with the same height (58 inches?), but going up from 120 to 160 in width. If my calculations are correct. Reasons for this are because I can't really put the PJ back farther than 14 feet from my wall, because my couch won't fit and I have other obstructions. If I set up a permanent theater I want the biggest image size that's still bright enough in 3D. Seeing what it is now, makes me more confident that with a good SILVER screen I can get what I want. Maybe if I put it at 12 feet and tame the screen size a bit, I can keep the brightness up enough so that in Anamorphic mode, on my TV, with the lens, I can take advantage of all the light and every pixel and just slide the lens off on a rail when going back to 16:9 content. Constant height setups are trickier than expected. In my current room I can't even use more than ten feet in width for the image on my wall, so I'm better off just letting the projector do all the work and "waste" the letterbox area using the zoom mode. I mean, it's not even the zoom mode, it's just setting a custom resolution of 1920x810 on my desktop and bam, done. Must thank this forum for all the neat tricks. Skyrim in wide-screen is INCREDIBLE. Just installed a whole bunch of gfx boosting mods. it is a beautiful sight to behold. Plus going down from 1920x1080 to 1920x810 might even save enough HDMI input port bandwidth to allow the PJ to display 3D at 60 hz. I'll have to try it as soon as those BenQ glasses go back on sale. No way I'm plunking down 100$ each, that's like oublie ça big, sti.
post #485 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

I'll have to try it as soon as those BenQ glasses go back on sale. No way I'm plunking down 100$ each, that's like oublie ça big, sti.

Costco.ca has them for 85 including shipping.. add taxes and you're up to 100 however.
post #486 of 4968
I am using these and they work perfectly :-) I love this projector!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DLP-LINK-Glasses-2-Mitsubishi-Samsung-DLP-TV-DLP-Link-Projectors-/150882711282

Thanks.
post #487 of 4968
Are these 144Hz glasses? I can't seem to find any specs on them. Thanks.
post #488 of 4968
Right I get a hit because I am upfront with getting a projector I think I will return.

People who order theirs out side the country are OK?

Your can read every word posted here and STILL find problems with some things you don't like about a product.

I bought a HP projector for $1600.00 7 years ago. No complaint but it is dieing and I really wanted a new projector for Xmas. Even with it I had to try a couple to debug them and find one I really liked. This is the main point of being allowed to make returns.

How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?

Again: WITH THE BenQ MW516:

When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.

I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)

This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.

Funny but my tired old HP vp6320 series: XGA (1024 × 768) projector did NOT have this problem nor does my Mits DLP TV, nor my wife’s Sony LCD Projector either, so what is up with this and what do I have to do to get rid of this problem.

I have seen my cable system pixulate with fast moving total pictures but this seems different.

And it does not seem like DLP Rainbows, I have seen them and this is not them.

I should point out currently I am feeding it via a SVGA cable from my computer and from my cable box by a Comportment to SVGA adapter thought a switcher to the projector by the same cable.

Also watched a old TV show on HULU and this was not there: TV show was at a lower Res...

Also a Bluray movie did not cause them....I am starting to think this projector shows the flaws and limits of my Cox Cable system...I think it lacks a error correcting of image clean up or smoothing software all my other systems seem to have?

I have ordered a couple of HDMI Cables to supply the projector from my computer and from the cable box, I am hoping this will clear things up a little.

I also hope the HDMI feeds will open the color level and tint controls. (they are grayed out in all modes)


SO does the new BenQ W1070 do all of these things as well??

Is it a flaw of the BenQ line?

What inputs open the color and tint controls??

What do I look for in specs or something to tell me a unit can handle high volume of action??

Feedback on these questions please.


I ordered a pair of the Saisonic 144hz off eBay and will try them on this projector.

And as this is the baby to the W1070, it has the Encon setting which I found useable as one person said: you almost need sunglasses to watch these.

Watch a couple of recorded TV shows and part of a movie and it really shows so much more than my OLD HP, color range is much better adn contras, deep deep Blacks, I cannot even think of going back.

ALSO this unit matches my computer, it plays the same colors, the HP was NOT working at all well with the computer, if not for a deep ATI Video control panel in the computer it would have even been unwatchable, and even then it was off, (I posted about the green problem..)the BenQ has no problem showing the same colors that are on the computer's screen.

One last minor complaint: the settings window: On the HP once you selected a control like brightness, all of the window would go away leaving ONLY the setting bar at the bottom of the screen and if you when up or down you could step thought the other controls without it blocking the screen.

This BenQ keeps the whole window open blocking the view of what your wanting to adjust. It can be put to one corner but still blocks 1/4th of the picture.

Wonder if these is way to change that.

Answers to these questions will help me figure out rather I even want a W1070 or keep this until I can step up to a better projector if the W1070 has the same problems.

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 1:18pm
post #489 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by fairmang View Post

I am using these and they work perfectly :-) I love this projector!
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DLP-LINK-Glasses-2-Mitsubishi-Samsung-DLP-TV-DLP-Link-Projectors-/150882711282
Thanks.

Do you have the BenQs also? With shipping they cost the same...it would be nice to have a comparison. thx
post #490 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Right I get a hit because I am upfront with getting a projector I think I will return.
People who order theirs out side the country are OK?
Your can read every word posted here and STILL find problems with some things you don't like about a product.
I bought a HP projector for $1600.00 7 years ago. No complaint but it is dieing and I really wanted a new projector for Xmas. Even with it I had to try a couple to debug them and find one I really liked. This is the main point of being allowed to make returns.
How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?
Again:
When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.
I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)
This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.
Funny but my tired old HP vp6320 series: XGA (1024 × 768) projector did NOT have this problem nor does my Mits DLP TV, nor my wife’s Sony LCD Projector either, so what is up with this and what do I have to do to get rid of this problem.
I have seen my cable system pixulate with fast moving total pictures but this seems different.
And it does not seem like DLP Rainbows, I have seen them and this is not them.
I should point out currently I am feeding it via a SVGA cable from my computer and from my cable box by a Comportment to SVGA adapter thought a switcher to the projector by the same cable.
Also watched a old TV show on HULU and this was not there: TV show was at a lower Res...
Also a Bluray movie did not cause them....I am starting to think this projector shows the flaws and limits of my Cox Cable system...I think it lacks a error correcting of image clean up or smoothing software all my other systems seem to have?
I have ordered a couple of HDMI Cables to supply the projector from my computer and from the cable box, I am hoping this will clear things up a little.
I also hope the HDMI feeds will open the color level and tint controls. (they are grayed out in all modes)
SO does the new BenQ W1070 do all of these things as well??
Is it a flaw of the BenQ line?
What inputs open the color and tint controls??
What do I look for in specs or something to tell me a unit can handle high volume of action??
Feedback on these questions please.
I ordered a pair of the Saisonic 144hz off eBay and will try them on this projector.
And as this is the baby to the W1070, it has the Encon setting which I found useable as one person said: you almost need sunglasses to watch these.
Watch a couple of recorded TV shows and part of a movie and it really shows so much more than my OLD HP, color range is much better adn contras, deep deep Blacks, I cannot even think of going back.
ALSO this unit matches my computer, it plays the same colors, the HP was NOT working at all well with the computer, if not for a deep ATI Video control panel in the computer it would have even been unwatchable, and even then it was off, (I posted about the green problem..)the BenQ has no problem showing the same colors that are on the computer's screen.
One last minor complaint: the settings window: On the HP once you selected a control like brightness, all of the window would go away leaving ONLY the setting bar at the bottom of the screen and if you when up or down you could step thought the other controls without it blocking the screen.
This BenQ keeps the whole window open blocking the view of what your wanting to adjust. It can be put to one corner but still blocks 1/4th of the picture.
Wonder if these is way to change that.
Answers to these questions will help me figure out rather I even want a W1070 or keep this until I can step up to a better projector if the W1070 has the same problems.
Rich

I can't really answer all the points above, since I haven't tried analog SVGA yet (and maybe never will). In digital mode I haven't seen a single flaw in this projector.

I would upgrade your other gear from SVGA to HDMI and get with the digital program, man! Looking forward to hear about your Saisonic glasses experience. Most CRT tvs would display SD content better than the latest digital stuff, simply because it's had 80 years to hone its tech in that direction. Focus (pun intended) on the future! I use an ATI / AMD video card and have been able to tweak the 2D image quite nicely. (it has a native HDMI output and built-in 7.1 sound, so it's digital all the way). This PJ has a lot of controls. Haven't calibrated it yet and don't plan on doing so until I build my DIY screen and see what the tint looks like with 3D glasses on.
post #491 of 4968
Thanks RLUBURNSIDE for your reply.

I am running a Mits. DLP projector TV and a Sony LCD Projector so we are in the digital age.

I am switching to HDMI as fast as I can. Comportment Video was rated nearly as good as HDMI and I was able to set up my whole system with switches to control it up to now, and when I was setting this up 7 years ago HDMI was the new kid on the block and unproven and I was unsure it would last..

As a exTV repairman yes CRTs have a lag time, they even figured on how long a phosphor dot would glow after being hit by the electron beam..so it would last awhile.. kind of like how some people love old tube amps with big transformers..they smooth out the sound...

I love digital sound and am converting all my music recording to SD cards..I even have one in my car...30 CDs on one little chip, SO STAR TREK...

Do you have full color and tint control?

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 7:56am
post #492 of 4968
Make sure you get GOOD HDMI cables if you have a long cable run. I'm not talking about expensive cables (ie: Monster) but make sure that the wire gauge is thick enough for the length that you run. Also look into the RedMere cables from Monoprice, they are great for longer (or tight) runs.
post #493 of 4968
My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told

I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.

Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.


Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.
Edited by JiMmY912 - 12/10/12 at 8:40am
post #494 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Well I did not want to wait until sometime in Jan. So I hit my local Fry’s Electronics and got a BenQ MW516. ($600.00)
Worst thing: I will take it back before Jan 8th. And get the BenQ W1070…(I know I am stinker BUT they SHOULD have had these in stories for Xmas...and did elsewhere.)
Rich

You might not be able to return it since it's now used.
You might be able to exchange it but probably if it's within 15 days.
Quote:
Fry's Electronics Retail Store Return/Exchange Privileges

1. For a refund or exchange, most products may be returned within 30 days of original purchase date.

Some other products, such as notebooks, netbooks, tablets and iPads, desktop computers, monitors, MP3 players and iPods, memory, microprocessors, motherboards, internal/external hard drives, network-attached storage, CD and DVD recorders, camcorders, cameras, projectors, postpaid wireless devices (monthly contract), and air conditioners (IF UNUSED) may be returned within 15 days of original purchase date. See store management for specific information.
post #495 of 4968
Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post


How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?
Again:
When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.
I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)
This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.
post #496 of 4968
This guy is NOT talking about the 1070, but a presentation projector at half the price.

I wish he'd take it to another thread as to not confuse the issue.
post #497 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiMmY912 View Post

My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told
I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.
Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.

Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.

There is a guy in german forum uses this glasses. http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-94-12473.html You can ask him.
post #498 of 4968
I will be getting Sainsonic, 3D CORP, 3Active and W1070 in the next 2 days hopefully , and I requested to cancel BenQ glasses. I also asked Monoprice if their glasses supports 144Hz, but they look similar to 3D CORP with minor design diferences.
post #499 of 4968
I just got the saisonic ones too and it also says 120hz on the package, but the model number is the one the list as 144hz. I get my projector on Wednesday hopefully can try them then....
post #500 of 4968
"Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?"

That reads like what I might be seeing.

What causes it and what (if anything) can I do to correct it?

AS for the guy who said take it somewhere else A) There is no thread on the BenQ MW516..

and as B) this IS a BENQ Projector the problems I am seeing might be in the W1070 as well.

I often find a defect in one unit can carry over the whole company line. IE All BenQ projectors might have the same problems...

I bet the adjustment window is the same across the whole line...

Fair enough?

Rich

PS I am sorry I forgot to ID the projector I am talking about and will make sure I do ID the Model number in each post as some may not be following my posts.
post #501 of 4968
The box had a compatibility list and 144Hz was one of them. When I get home I will take a photo of the box with the info.
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Originally Posted by dfmocanu View Post

Are these 144Hz glasses? I can't seem to find any specs on them. Thanks.
post #502 of 4968
I don't have the Benq glasses.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Do you have the BenQs also? With shipping they cost the same...it would be nice to have a comparison. thx
post #503 of 4968
The glasses I am using as mentioned above.
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3DTV Glasses
post #504 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

"Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?"

That reads like what I might be seeing.

What causes it and what (if anything) can I do to correct it?

.

A poor deinterlacer wink.gif. Not likely to be a problem on higher end gear.
post #505 of 4968
racprops said:
Quote:
AS for the guy who said take it somewhere else A) There is no thread on the BenQ MW516..

and as B) this IS a BENQ Projector the problems I am seeing might be in the W1070 as well.

I often find a defect in one unit can carry over the whole company line. IE All BenQ projectors might have the same problems...

I bet the adjustment window is the same across the whole line...

Fair enough?

Rich

PS I am sorry I forgot to ID the projector I am talking about and will make sure I do ID the Model number in each post as some may not be following my posts.

Hey Rich,

I agree with fst96se - could you please go start a thread on your specific model if one doesn't exist like you say? This thread is very aptly titled "BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$". Nowhere in that title does it mention the MW516, regardless of the fact that you think the MW516 MIGHT act similarly to the W1070 even though it hasn't even really been reviewed yet, or like every other BenQ.

I am monitoring this thread for information on the W1070 like everyone else is and your comments are confusing. Not that I don't think your questions are valid, they just aren't for this thread in my opinion.

Thanks to everyone else for posting up their experiences with this new and exciting projector!
post #506 of 4968
I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector

I think no one else has bought one...

And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.

It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...

Rich
post #507 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector
I think no one else has bought one...
And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.
It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...
Rich

It's like comparing a focus with a gt though.
post #508 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiMmY912 View Post

My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told
I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.
Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.

Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.

Hi and sorry to interfere but will like to share my experience as me and a friend decided to by the same glasses(x2) back in october. There is absolutetly no indication that these work in 144Hz only the word of the seller which personally I do not trust. The quality is way inferior to the Optoma ZD201 and they are very fragile. After 2.5 months one pair stopped working and I am afraid the other will not last any longer. I guess you get what you pay for. They are OK if you just want to try them as back-ups but for everyday use they will last 2-3 months. From my whole experience better save a bit for better dlp glasses, which mind you, are not that much more expensive. From the other side the Optoma keep on rocking hard and the quality of their lens is significantly better and the whole design is sturdier. Just my 2 cents!!!
post #509 of 4968
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector
I think no one else has bought one...
And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.
It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...
Rich

You've only had the other thread open for 2 days - I'm sure someone out there has bought the same presentation projector that can answer your questions, it just may take some time. Same with this thread - there are only a few people with this projector currently so it make take some time for all of the details to come out. Wait for a professional review or two and I'm sure they will answer your questions. If not, then ask. Otherwise it's just making the thread really long and hard to read. Some people might misread your post and think all of your issues are with the new projector, and not one that is a presentation projector, cheaper, and only 720p. As mekret said above, I don't think you can really compare the two.

I'm just going to be patient and wait for now.
post #510 of 4968
And I just tried again with a internet search and found NOTHING on the M516..

Is it also brand new??

Right NOW your guys are my only hope for help and information on this.

And as i have been part of other threads, the response time is fast..two to six posts a day..mine dead for over two days.

Yes that is a little extreme, a Focus with a GT what??

How about a Mustang with say a Crown Vic, almost the same motor and trans and bugs in one can show up on the other.

As a Old TV repairman I can say that RCA products often had the same problems within the RCA line as did Sony and the other brands.

AND I have been asking if the W1070 has shown any of these problems as well.

I still think my questions are correct here.

And I have no where else to ask them...

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 7:22pm
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