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post #481 of 8505
Are these 144Hz glasses? I can't seem to find any specs on them. Thanks.
post #482 of 8505
Right I get a hit because I am upfront with getting a projector I think I will return.

People who order theirs out side the country are OK?

Your can read every word posted here and STILL find problems with some things you don't like about a product.

I bought a HP projector for $1600.00 7 years ago. No complaint but it is dieing and I really wanted a new projector for Xmas. Even with it I had to try a couple to debug them and find one I really liked. This is the main point of being allowed to make returns.

How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?

Again: WITH THE BenQ MW516:

When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.

I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)

This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.

Funny but my tired old HP vp6320 series: XGA (1024 × 768) projector did NOT have this problem nor does my Mits DLP TV, nor my wife’s Sony LCD Projector either, so what is up with this and what do I have to do to get rid of this problem.

I have seen my cable system pixulate with fast moving total pictures but this seems different.

And it does not seem like DLP Rainbows, I have seen them and this is not them.

I should point out currently I am feeding it via a SVGA cable from my computer and from my cable box by a Comportment to SVGA adapter thought a switcher to the projector by the same cable.

Also watched a old TV show on HULU and this was not there: TV show was at a lower Res...

Also a Bluray movie did not cause them....I am starting to think this projector shows the flaws and limits of my Cox Cable system...I think it lacks a error correcting of image clean up or smoothing software all my other systems seem to have?

I have ordered a couple of HDMI Cables to supply the projector from my computer and from the cable box, I am hoping this will clear things up a little.

I also hope the HDMI feeds will open the color level and tint controls. (they are grayed out in all modes)


SO does the new BenQ W1070 do all of these things as well??

Is it a flaw of the BenQ line?

What inputs open the color and tint controls??

What do I look for in specs or something to tell me a unit can handle high volume of action??

Feedback on these questions please.


I ordered a pair of the Saisonic 144hz off eBay and will try them on this projector.

And as this is the baby to the W1070, it has the Encon setting which I found useable as one person said: you almost need sunglasses to watch these.

Watch a couple of recorded TV shows and part of a movie and it really shows so much more than my OLD HP, color range is much better adn contras, deep deep Blacks, I cannot even think of going back.

ALSO this unit matches my computer, it plays the same colors, the HP was NOT working at all well with the computer, if not for a deep ATI Video control panel in the computer it would have even been unwatchable, and even then it was off, (I posted about the green problem..)the BenQ has no problem showing the same colors that are on the computer's screen.

One last minor complaint: the settings window: On the HP once you selected a control like brightness, all of the window would go away leaving ONLY the setting bar at the bottom of the screen and if you when up or down you could step thought the other controls without it blocking the screen.

This BenQ keeps the whole window open blocking the view of what your wanting to adjust. It can be put to one corner but still blocks 1/4th of the picture.

Wonder if these is way to change that.

Answers to these questions will help me figure out rather I even want a W1070 or keep this until I can step up to a better projector if the W1070 has the same problems.

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 1:18pm
post #483 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by fairmang View Post

I am using these and they work perfectly :-) I love this projector!
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DLP-LINK-Glasses-2-Mitsubishi-Samsung-DLP-TV-DLP-Link-Projectors-/150882711282
Thanks.

Do you have the BenQs also? With shipping they cost the same...it would be nice to have a comparison. thx
post #484 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Right I get a hit because I am upfront with getting a projector I think I will return.
People who order theirs out side the country are OK?
Your can read every word posted here and STILL find problems with some things you don't like about a product.
I bought a HP projector for $1600.00 7 years ago. No complaint but it is dieing and I really wanted a new projector for Xmas. Even with it I had to try a couple to debug them and find one I really liked. This is the main point of being allowed to make returns.
How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?
Again:
When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.
I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)
This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.
Funny but my tired old HP vp6320 series: XGA (1024 × 768) projector did NOT have this problem nor does my Mits DLP TV, nor my wife’s Sony LCD Projector either, so what is up with this and what do I have to do to get rid of this problem.
I have seen my cable system pixulate with fast moving total pictures but this seems different.
And it does not seem like DLP Rainbows, I have seen them and this is not them.
I should point out currently I am feeding it via a SVGA cable from my computer and from my cable box by a Comportment to SVGA adapter thought a switcher to the projector by the same cable.
Also watched a old TV show on HULU and this was not there: TV show was at a lower Res...
Also a Bluray movie did not cause them....I am starting to think this projector shows the flaws and limits of my Cox Cable system...I think it lacks a error correcting of image clean up or smoothing software all my other systems seem to have?
I have ordered a couple of HDMI Cables to supply the projector from my computer and from the cable box, I am hoping this will clear things up a little.
I also hope the HDMI feeds will open the color level and tint controls. (they are grayed out in all modes)
SO does the new BenQ W1070 do all of these things as well??
Is it a flaw of the BenQ line?
What inputs open the color and tint controls??
What do I look for in specs or something to tell me a unit can handle high volume of action??
Feedback on these questions please.
I ordered a pair of the Saisonic 144hz off eBay and will try them on this projector.
And as this is the baby to the W1070, it has the Encon setting which I found useable as one person said: you almost need sunglasses to watch these.
Watch a couple of recorded TV shows and part of a movie and it really shows so much more than my OLD HP, color range is much better adn contras, deep deep Blacks, I cannot even think of going back.
ALSO this unit matches my computer, it plays the same colors, the HP was NOT working at all well with the computer, if not for a deep ATI Video control panel in the computer it would have even been unwatchable, and even then it was off, (I posted about the green problem..)the BenQ has no problem showing the same colors that are on the computer's screen.
One last minor complaint: the settings window: On the HP once you selected a control like brightness, all of the window would go away leaving ONLY the setting bar at the bottom of the screen and if you when up or down you could step thought the other controls without it blocking the screen.
This BenQ keeps the whole window open blocking the view of what your wanting to adjust. It can be put to one corner but still blocks 1/4th of the picture.
Wonder if these is way to change that.
Answers to these questions will help me figure out rather I even want a W1070 or keep this until I can step up to a better projector if the W1070 has the same problems.
Rich

I can't really answer all the points above, since I haven't tried analog SVGA yet (and maybe never will). In digital mode I haven't seen a single flaw in this projector.

I would upgrade your other gear from SVGA to HDMI and get with the digital program, man! Looking forward to hear about your Saisonic glasses experience. Most CRT tvs would display SD content better than the latest digital stuff, simply because it's had 80 years to hone its tech in that direction. Focus (pun intended) on the future! I use an ATI / AMD video card and have been able to tweak the 2D image quite nicely. (it has a native HDMI output and built-in 7.1 sound, so it's digital all the way). This PJ has a lot of controls. Haven't calibrated it yet and don't plan on doing so until I build my DIY screen and see what the tint looks like with 3D glasses on.
post #485 of 8505
Thanks RLUBURNSIDE for your reply.

I am running a Mits. DLP projector TV and a Sony LCD Projector so we are in the digital age.

I am switching to HDMI as fast as I can. Comportment Video was rated nearly as good as HDMI and I was able to set up my whole system with switches to control it up to now, and when I was setting this up 7 years ago HDMI was the new kid on the block and unproven and I was unsure it would last..

As a exTV repairman yes CRTs have a lag time, they even figured on how long a phosphor dot would glow after being hit by the electron beam..so it would last awhile.. kind of like how some people love old tube amps with big transformers..they smooth out the sound...

I love digital sound and am converting all my music recording to SD cards..I even have one in my car...30 CDs on one little chip, SO STAR TREK...

Do you have full color and tint control?

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 7:56am
post #486 of 8505
Make sure you get GOOD HDMI cables if you have a long cable run. I'm not talking about expensive cables (ie: Monster) but make sure that the wire gauge is thick enough for the length that you run. Also look into the RedMere cables from Monoprice, they are great for longer (or tight) runs.
post #487 of 8505
My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told

I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.

Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.


Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.
Edited by JiMmY912 - 12/10/12 at 8:40am
post #488 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Well I did not want to wait until sometime in Jan. So I hit my local Fry’s Electronics and got a BenQ MW516. ($600.00)
Worst thing: I will take it back before Jan 8th. And get the BenQ W1070…(I know I am stinker BUT they SHOULD have had these in stories for Xmas...and did elsewhere.)
Rich

You might not be able to return it since it's now used.
You might be able to exchange it but probably if it's within 15 days.
Quote:
Fry's Electronics Retail Store Return/Exchange Privileges

1. For a refund or exchange, most products may be returned within 30 days of original purchase date.

Some other products, such as notebooks, netbooks, tablets and iPads, desktop computers, monitors, MP3 players and iPods, memory, microprocessors, motherboards, internal/external hard drives, network-attached storage, CD and DVD recorders, camcorders, cameras, projectors, postpaid wireless devices (monthly contract), and air conditioners (IF UNUSED) may be returned within 15 days of original purchase date. See store management for specific information.
post #489 of 8505
Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post


How about addressing the problems I have found with this projector?
Again:
When something moves fast I see a bunch of small lines on the edges, I think it is the system not keeping up with the action.
I can see the same thing on a Pentium Four computer watching Live TV on Beyond TV, the one cpu cannot keep up with the incoming picture and display it at the same time. It will play back a recorder show fine but not do both at the same time. (Or it could be the video card…)
This projector looks like the computer. Same kind of lines on the edges of moving things.
post #490 of 8505
This guy is NOT talking about the 1070, but a presentation projector at half the price.

I wish he'd take it to another thread as to not confuse the issue.
post #491 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiMmY912 View Post

My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told
I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.
Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.

Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.

There is a guy in german forum uses this glasses. http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-94-12473.html You can ask him.
post #492 of 8505
I will be getting Sainsonic, 3D CORP, 3Active and W1070 in the next 2 days hopefully , and I requested to cancel BenQ glasses. I also asked Monoprice if their glasses supports 144Hz, but they look similar to 3D CORP with minor design diferences.
post #493 of 8505
I just got the saisonic ones too and it also says 120hz on the package, but the model number is the one the list as 144hz. I get my projector on Wednesday hopefully can try them then....
post #494 of 8505
"Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?"

That reads like what I might be seeing.

What causes it and what (if anything) can I do to correct it?

AS for the guy who said take it somewhere else A) There is no thread on the BenQ MW516..

and as B) this IS a BENQ Projector the problems I am seeing might be in the W1070 as well.

I often find a defect in one unit can carry over the whole company line. IE All BenQ projectors might have the same problems...

I bet the adjustment window is the same across the whole line...

Fair enough?

Rich

PS I am sorry I forgot to ID the projector I am talking about and will make sure I do ID the Model number in each post as some may not be following my posts.
post #495 of 8505
The box had a compatibility list and 144Hz was one of them. When I get home I will take a photo of the box with the info.
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Originally Posted by dfmocanu View Post

Are these 144Hz glasses? I can't seem to find any specs on them. Thanks.
post #496 of 8505
I don't have the Benq glasses.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Do you have the BenQs also? With shipping they cost the same...it would be nice to have a comparison. thx
post #497 of 8505
The glasses I am using as mentioned above.
104788
3DTV Glasses
post #498 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

"Are you seeing de-interlacing artifacts?"

That reads like what I might be seeing.

What causes it and what (if anything) can I do to correct it?

.

A poor deinterlacer wink.gif. Not likely to be a problem on higher end gear.
post #499 of 8505
racprops said:
Quote:
AS for the guy who said take it somewhere else A) There is no thread on the BenQ MW516..

and as B) this IS a BENQ Projector the problems I am seeing might be in the W1070 as well.

I often find a defect in one unit can carry over the whole company line. IE All BenQ projectors might have the same problems...

I bet the adjustment window is the same across the whole line...

Fair enough?

Rich

PS I am sorry I forgot to ID the projector I am talking about and will make sure I do ID the Model number in each post as some may not be following my posts.

Hey Rich,

I agree with fst96se - could you please go start a thread on your specific model if one doesn't exist like you say? This thread is very aptly titled "BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$". Nowhere in that title does it mention the MW516, regardless of the fact that you think the MW516 MIGHT act similarly to the W1070 even though it hasn't even really been reviewed yet, or like every other BenQ.

I am monitoring this thread for information on the W1070 like everyone else is and your comments are confusing. Not that I don't think your questions are valid, they just aren't for this thread in my opinion.

Thanks to everyone else for posting up their experiences with this new and exciting projector!
post #500 of 8505
I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector

I think no one else has bought one...

And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.

It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...

Rich
post #501 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector
I think no one else has bought one...
And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.
It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...
Rich

It's like comparing a focus with a gt though.
post #502 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by JiMmY912 View Post

My sainsonic 144hz glasses arrived but it says 120hz on the box and manual. So I contacted the seller and I was told
I'm sorry to make you confused, my friend. This glasses you ordered is the 144Hz one(SKU: 28-010-904). We pack this model glasse with the same boxes as the other 120Hz one (item ID: 170955168404). The glasses is totally compatible with the 144Hz projector, you could view the 3D image at the same time with this model glasses and the other one(120 Hz). Then you could tell the difference. That's why we provide 60 days return and full refund service, if you are not satisfied with the image effect(compare with the 120 Hz one), you could return us also we could cover the return shipping fee.
Your understanding and patience will be much appreciated, and should you have any inquiry please feel free to contact us. We will be around you within 24 hours, and we are sure any problem can be solved in a satisfactory way.

Anyone who bought the same glassed can confirm this? I don't have my projector yet to test.
What does it say on your manual and what's the model number you got?
If it's 120hz, is it not suppose to work with this projector?
I went to sainsonic's website but I don't see any 3d glasses it says 144hz.

Hi and sorry to interfere but will like to share my experience as me and a friend decided to by the same glasses(x2) back in october. There is absolutetly no indication that these work in 144Hz only the word of the seller which personally I do not trust. The quality is way inferior to the Optoma ZD201 and they are very fragile. After 2.5 months one pair stopped working and I am afraid the other will not last any longer. I guess you get what you pay for. They are OK if you just want to try them as back-ups but for everyday use they will last 2-3 months. From my whole experience better save a bit for better dlp glasses, which mind you, are not that much more expensive. From the other side the Optoma keep on rocking hard and the quality of their lens is significantly better and the whole design is sturdier. Just my 2 cents!!!
post #503 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

I did post a thread about the BenQ MW516 AND GOT NO Replies...See:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444176/picture-devects-in-benq-mw516-projector
I think no one else has bought one...
And as I am considering getting the W1070 I really want to know if these things happen with it as well.
It is like owning a Ford, some problems with Ford show up on all of their cars...
Rich

You've only had the other thread open for 2 days - I'm sure someone out there has bought the same presentation projector that can answer your questions, it just may take some time. Same with this thread - there are only a few people with this projector currently so it make take some time for all of the details to come out. Wait for a professional review or two and I'm sure they will answer your questions. If not, then ask. Otherwise it's just making the thread really long and hard to read. Some people might misread your post and think all of your issues are with the new projector, and not one that is a presentation projector, cheaper, and only 720p. As mekret said above, I don't think you can really compare the two.

I'm just going to be patient and wait for now.
post #504 of 8505
And I just tried again with a internet search and found NOTHING on the M516..

Is it also brand new??

Right NOW your guys are my only hope for help and information on this.

And as i have been part of other threads, the response time is fast..two to six posts a day..mine dead for over two days.

Yes that is a little extreme, a Focus with a GT what??

How about a Mustang with say a Crown Vic, almost the same motor and trans and bugs in one can show up on the other.

As a Old TV repairman I can say that RCA products often had the same problems within the RCA line as did Sony and the other brands.

AND I have been asking if the W1070 has shown any of these problems as well.

I still think my questions are correct here.

And I have no where else to ask them...

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/10/12 at 7:22pm
post #505 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by elgriego View Post

Hi and sorry to interfere but will like to share my experience as me and a friend decided to by the same glasses(x2) back in october. There is absolutetly no indication that these work in 144Hz only the word of the seller which personally I do not trust. The quality is way inferior to the Optoma ZD201 and they are very fragile. After 2.5 months one pair stopped working and I am afraid the other will not last any longer. I guess you get what you pay for. They are OK if you just want to try them as back-ups but for everyday use they will last 2-3 months. From my whole experience better save a bit for better dlp glasses, which mind you, are not that much more expensive. From the other side the Optoma keep on rocking hard and the quality of their lens is significantly better and the whole design is sturdier. Just my 2 cents!!!

On the other hand the ZD201 don't support 144Hz and based on what I saw when comparing the ZD201 with the BenQ D3, 144Hz seems better.. I had to send two pairs back to the Amazon UK for refund.
post #506 of 8505
Great, after about 1/2 a dozen posts on how these are a great deal NOW after I ordered a pair comes this post on how they fail after a couple of months...

So where do we get a good set of fair priced glasses??

And on the w1070:

A) Does it have the same setting window, IE does it take up about 1/4 of the screen all the time you adjusting things?

B) Do you have color level control all the time or if not what do you have with what inputs?

C) Do you have tint control as above??

D) Does anyone see any de-interlacing artifacts?

So far no one has answered these questions.

RIch
post #507 of 8505
Well it looks like I may have to keep my BenQ MW516 for a while:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BenQ-W1070-Full-1080p-3D-HDMI-v1-4a-DLP-3D-Projector-for-3D-Blu-Ray-Games-/130815465642?pt=US_Video_Projectors&hash=item1e753598aa

US $1,103.00
Buy It Now

So much for the early predictions of UNDER $1000.00.

Rich
post #508 of 8505
Import it. In Europe you can buy it for about 614 Euro without tax (approx. $800 plus shipping)
http://geizhals.de/eu/860573
post #509 of 8505
Early runs of new models frequently go on sale on Ebay for a premium. The current listed price is probably not indicative of the actual street price, once the retail distribution pipeline gets filled. In a few weeks, I expect this to sell for around $1000. I'm still waiting on more definitive reviews, however.
post #510 of 8505
Quote:
Originally Posted by mart242 View Post

On the other hand the ZD201 don't support 144Hz and based on what I saw when comparing the ZD201 with the BenQ D3, 144Hz seems better.. I had to send two pairs back to the Amazon UK for refund.

I don't have the w1070 so I don't know but why would you think that you need 144Hz glasses(which I doubt the Sainsonic are 144hz) to work on the W1070. DLP is a standard and the optoma glasses obide to this standard. Do you think the optoma won't work with the Benq W1070 for some reason? Please give me a heads up if they don't because I am interested in this projector. About the Benq glasses I don't know as I never tried them.
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