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post #4801 of 8495
Hmmm, might have to plan a mountain biking trip to Whistler and pick up a PJ on my way back, if I don't break down and buy it before the end of June. Anyone with this coupon Wang to hold on to it until then for me, just in case?wink.gif
post #4802 of 8495
What is the custom cost to have Canadian friend ship the pj to the US?
post #4803 of 8495
Ok, I finally bite the bullet and went into the dark side... (or the brighter side)

I was always looking at decent, affordable 1080p LED projectors with integrated DVB-T tuners. They do not exists, and probably won't be in the next few years. So I have to make 2 compromises for the superior image quality.

I just bought from office works with RRP $998. That's the last one that store have in stock. With price match and 5% off I got a smidge below the $900 mark. Considering Amazon is selling for 999 and in Australia everything is ripped off, this looks like a good deal.

I'm still at work, but boy I can't do any work now!

Now this is my first lamp projector. Any caution to the lamp use? I heard you can't frequently switch on and off, but how frequent is frequent? In my LED days I never thought of this, just switch on and off whenever needed.
post #4804 of 8495
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However, I do use a HD media player that can play SBS files in 1080p with 'frame packing' automatically selected on the projector. I use the egreat r6s. (cost about $78 shipped).

May i know which other media player that can frame packs the sbs files for W1070 to display proper 3D..
- Egreat R6S
- HiMidea 900B
- KDLinks HD700

What else... please share if you do know...

As it never seems to be stated about this function in media player's description..
Edited by hungary - 5/17/13 at 7:06pm
post #4805 of 8495
Wait.. can it be all Realtek 1186 based media players support this feature?
post #4806 of 8495
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Originally Posted by hungary View Post

May i know which other media player that can frame packs the sbs files for W1070 to display proper 3D..
- Egreat R6S
- HiMidea 900B

What else... please share if you do know...

As it never seems to be stated about this function in media player's description..

KDLinks HD700
post #4807 of 8495
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Originally Posted by acras13 View Post

LOL this should be fun. A couple weeks ago I asked how far to the left the mount needed to be because of the lens being off center and got several answers discussing lens offset and adjustments internal to the pj for adjusting the picture. The lens center is 2.67" from the center of the pj as found in the benq data sheet ftp://downloads.benq.net/projector/datasheets/w1070/w1070_specsheet_bqus_apr2013.pdf
I do not see the 2.67" from the spec sheet. Also, in the spec sheet, it states throw ratio of 1.15-1.5, most place and review say it is 1.30:1 throw ratio?
post #4808 of 8495


Just noticed that the $200 off doesn't state an "original price" or "price before discount". So there's no guarantee that this promo price is $799 ($200 off the regular $999 price) + 2 pairs of glasses. If it is ... great! But it wouldn't surprise me if they sell this projector + glasses combo at a regular price of $1100 -$1400.
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

This unit is going on sale at cost-co.ca between June 24-July 7 for $800 including 2 pairs of 3D glasses!! Thought you'd like to know!

Tyee - Are you sure about the price after discount?
Edited by JonnyVee - 5/17/13 at 7:13am
post #4809 of 8495
Look at the measurements, it shows distance from side of PJ to centerline, and side to center of lens. A little subtraction...
post #4810 of 8495
For what is worth, what I did and probably most of us, I sat the PJ on a small table and turned on the PJ and then looked at my screen and seen at what distance the PJ to my screen ( or wall ) at what max distance I could set it up and made sure that picture quality was fine then looked up at my ceiling tiles and marked it, and it worked fine for me.
post #4811 of 8495
I'd sure like to know (actual final price after discount) fer sure. I'm already planning a mini vacation to Canada around that week, lol. Always wanted to see Niagara Falls. Kill 2 birds, no?? Lol. Also still open on suggestions for getting one here (East Coast) New York. At that price I could definitely stop hunting and putting off. Still happy with my current set up, so it's really a... "man, it might be nice to add 3D to the repetoire" sort of thing at this point.
post #4812 of 8495
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Originally Posted by JonnyVee View Post



Tyee - Are you sure about the price after discount?


No, I'm not sure, just going by the current retail minus $200. Usually that's the way it works. Also, since it says .ca only, it might have to be shipped to a real address in Canada and it won't be available in any physical store, but I may be wrong.

Let me go to my local store, just 5 mins. up the road and ask these questions -

1) Will this projector be available for in store pickup? Probably not.
2) Can Americans use their US Visa card and get it shipped to a Canadian address (a friend) if they notify their CC company? Only CA Visa cards are accepted.
3) What is the actual price going to be considering the projector only is currently $1000? Most likely still $800 like we thought.

OK, just called the customer service line and they tried to help but not 100% sure of the answers because it's not live yet. I added the answers in Bold above.
Edited by tyee - 5/17/13 at 10:24am
post #4813 of 8495
Getting the Benq in the next week or two, and was looking at the Elite Screens ER110WH1 and the Jamestown JTS 110 screen, which are in my price range. I have a room with burgundy walls. I like what I've read on AVS about the Jamestown screens.

Is there a better choice under $300?
post #4814 of 8495
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

No, I'm not sure, just going by the current retail minus $200. Usually that's the way it works. Also, since it says .ca only, it might have to be shipped to a real address in Canada and it won't be available in any physical store, but I may be wrong.

Let me go to my local store, just 5 mins. up the road and ask these questions -

1) Will this projector be available for in store pickup? Probably not.
2) Can Americans use their US Visa card and get it shipped to a Canadian address (a friend) if they notify their CC company? Only CA Visa cards are accepted.
3) What is the actual price going to be considering the projector only is currently $1000? Most likely still $800 like we thought.

OK, just called the customer service line and they tried to help but not 100% sure of the answers because it's not live yet. I added the answers in Bold above.

Thanks for doing the legwork for us tyee, guess ill continue to put off that whistler trip.
post #4815 of 8495
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Originally Posted by albero67 View Post

KDLinks HD700
Another Realtek 1186 based media player.
Thanks..

It might be a great help for W1070 owners in choosing a media player for their setup as to its spec of not support SBS 1080p while reported a flickering issue in watching 1080i content..
post #4816 of 8495
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Originally Posted by hungary View Post

Another Realtek 1186 based media player.
Thanks..

It might be a great help for W1070 owners in choosing a media player for their setup as to its spec of not support SBS 1080p while reported a flickering issue in watching 1080i content..

I am sort of confused or just plain ignorant to the new technology but what is the advantage of the HD700?
post #4817 of 8495
Yes, Thanks Tyee! Was hoping to hear that they might have them in the stores but, c'est la vie!!! Maybe i'll visit Canada ANYWAY, lol.tongue.gif
post #4818 of 8495
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Originally Posted by tyee View Post

No, I'm not sure, just going by the current retail minus $200. Usually that's the way it works. Also, since it says .ca only, it might have to be shipped to a real address in Canada and it won't be available in any physical store, but I may be wrong.

Let me go to my local store, just 5 mins. up the road and ask these questions -

1) Will this projector be available for in store pickup? Probably not.
2) Can Americans use their US Visa card and get it shipped to a Canadian address (a friend) if they notify their CC company? Only CA Visa cards are accepted.
3) What is the actual price going to be considering the projector only is currently $1000? Most likely still $800 like we thought.

OK, just called the customer service line and they tried to help but not 100% sure of the answers because it's not live yet. I added the answers in Bold above.

Wow. Thanks for gathering all that information.

If it's really $800 with two pairs than this is an incredible deal. I hate to do this to Costco, but looks like I'll be buying a second projector in June and returning the old one. I can't ignore $226 off (including the savings in tax) plus $200 in free glasses.
post #4819 of 8495
they're all pretty much the same to each other in terms of capability. There are some HD media players based on the Sigma chip (Dune HD), but for 3D content Realtek chips seem to do a better job and Sigma chips are known to overheat.
post #4820 of 8495
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they're all pretty much the same to each other in terms of capability. There are some HD media players based on the Sigma chip (Dune HD), but for 3D content Realtek chips seem to do a better job and Sigma chips are known to overheat.

The thing we wanna make sure is whether Sigma based media player able to frame pack SBS content to the output?
This is very important for W1070 doesnt recognise SBS in 1080p... so the media player must be able to frame pack SBS for W1070 to be recognised as 1080p 3D like what bluray does..
Any sigma / marvell / mtk chip based media player owner here can confirm that?
post #4821 of 8495
On my egreat r6s, yes (realtek 1186 chip), I have already confirmed that HSBS, and Full SBS content can be played in 'frame packing' mode in 1080p. From what I observe, the picture quality and motion fluidity is better on the realtek chip than playing media from a PC.

I am able to play all 3D (SBS, Full SBS, OU) media formats, ISO, 3D blu-ray ISOs, and other media formats without any issues from the egreat box.

So just to repeat and clarify:

BenQ W1070 cannot do 'frame packing' at all when connected to a PC

- This means you cannot play a movie in 3D from a BD-ROM drive.
- The projector also does NOT support SBS (side by side) in 1080p. The resolution must be set to 1080i in order to play SBS format correctly. However, it can play OU (over-under) format in 1080p without issue.
- In order for it to play nice with all 3D formats, I bought a HD media player (cheapest RTD1186 chip I could find was the Egreat R6s) and play 3D media from there (can be streamed via network, nfs, smb, usb 3.0, esata).
Edited by aohus - 5/19/13 at 2:14am
post #4822 of 8495
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Originally Posted by aohus View Post

So just to repeat and clarify:

BenQ W1070 cannot do 'frame packing' at all when connected to a PC

- This means you cannot play a movie in 3D from a BD-ROM drive.

We've been through this.

Maybe it can't if you're connecting it via that vga input that they've labelled 'pc' on the 1070's back panel, but if you go via hdmi, it certainly can. Powerdvd plays 3d Blu-rays, and I have no problems playing my Makemkv rips with the Stereoscopic player. Nor anything else, for that matter.
post #4823 of 8495
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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

We've been through this.

Maybe it can't if you're connecting it via that vga input that they've labelled 'pc' on the 1070's back panel, but if you go via hdmi, it certainly can. Powerdvd plays 3d Blu-rays, and I have no problems playing my Makemkv rips with the Stereoscopic player. Nor anything else, for that matter.

I concur. I can play SBS on a PC using PowerDVD in 1080p 24 mode. PowerDVD converts to frame packing. Unfortunately, when ever i use it, PowerDVD mutes the color when it converts. Because of this I only rip with DVDFab using over-under mode and I let the Benq do the conversion to 3D.
post #4824 of 8495
I used to have the Epson 8350 and have had the W1070 for about a month now. The color in 2D is looks great, no dust blobs, and motion blur on the 8350 was distracting and is much better with the W1070.

My only issue with the w1070 is the color in 3D is too muted out of the box. I tried bumping the gain on red & blue to about 120, but it was still to dull. It's been driving me a little crazy.

I was finally was able to get the color to a nice saturation this morning, so I thought I'd share my settings. I know the settings won't be for everyone, but it might be a good starting point for some. I have a DIY screen - painted wall with Sherwin Williams Unique Gray with a about a 12-foot throw in a light controlled room. I'm also using the glasses from Monoprice.


Custom 3D Setting

Setting - 3D
Brightness - 51
Contrast - 30
LampPower - SmartEco
Gamma 2.4
Brilliant Color - On
Under "Color Temperature Fine Tuning"
  • Red Gain - 137
  • Green Gain - 113
  • Blue Gain - 140


.......................

I also used the settings in the following link to try a calibrated 2D setting. Works pretty good. In addition, I also tried applying the color management settings from the link below in the 2nd 3D user setting profile with the settings above - the verdict is still out, but unlike the 2D mode, i find you have to keep Brillant Color "on".

http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1761516-benq-w1070-reviewer-s-recommended-best-settings.html
Edited by JonnyVee - 5/20/13 at 5:43am
post #4825 of 8495
Good to know; thanks! I'm about to buy the 1070 and will have the same screen setup, a SW Unique Gray painted wall. My throw will be 10 feet, light-controlled room.
post #4826 of 8495
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Originally Posted by JonnyVee View Post

I used to have the Epson 8350 and have had the W1070 for about a month now. The color in 2D is looks great, no dust blobs, and motion blur on the 8350 was distracting and is much better with the W1070.

My only issue with the w1070 is the color in 3D is too muted out of the box. I tried bumping the gain on red & blue to about 120, but it was still to dull. It's been driving me a little crazy.

I was finally was able to get the color to a nice saturation this morning, so I thought I'd share my settings. I know the settings won't be for everyone, but it might be a good starting point for some. I have a DIY screen - painted wall with Sherwin Williams Unique Gray with a about a 12-foot throw in a light controlled room.


Custom 3D Setting

Setting - 3D
Brightness - 51
Contrast - 53
LampPower - SmartEco
Gamma 2.4
Brilliant Color - On
Red Gain - 137
Green Gain - 113
Blue Gain - 140

.......................

I also used the settings in the following link to try a calibrated 2D setting. Works pretty good. I also tried applying the color management settings from the link in the 2nd 3D user setting profile with the settings above - the verdict is still out, but unlike the 2D mode, i find you have to keep Brillant Color "on".

http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1761516-benq-w1070-reviewer-s-recommended-best-settings.html

Just bought this projector after my Sanyo Z2000 lamp died this past week, and I didn't want to spend another $300 for another lamp. Out of the box I was very happy with the picture. I was just going to post and ask if there was a FAQ or something with recommended optimized settings for various modes, lamp power, etc. I'll start with this and see how it goes. Thanks JonnyVee! This will be my first foray into 3D as well. I've got some of the 3DTV glasses sitting in my Amazon cart at the moment.
post #4827 of 8495
I agree. As great as some of the presets are for 2D out of the box, the 3D default really washes the color. I'd like to get a Blu-Ray player that converts 2D to 3D so I could load the WoW disc and get better settings.
post #4828 of 8495
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Originally Posted by JonnyVee View Post

I used to have the Epson 8350 and have had the W1070 for about a month now. The color in 2D is looks great, no dust blobs, and motion blur on the 8350 was distracting and is much better with the W1070.

My only issue with the w1070 is the color in 3D is too muted out of the box. I tried bumping the gain on red & blue to about 120, but it was still to dull. It's been driving me a little crazy.

I was finally was able to get the color to a nice saturation this morning, so I thought I'd share my settings. I know the settings won't be for everyone, but it might be a good starting point for some. I have a DIY screen - painted wall with Sherwin Williams Unique Gray with a about a 12-foot throw in a light controlled room.


Custom 3D Setting

Setting - 3D
Brightness - 51
Contrast - 53
LampPower - SmartEco
Gamma 2.4
Brilliant Color - On
Red Gain - 137
Green Gain - 113
Blue Gain - 140

.......................

I also used the settings in the following link to try a calibrated 2D setting. Works pretty good. I also tried applying the color management settings from the link in the 2nd 3D user setting profile with the settings above - the verdict is still out, but unlike the 2D mode, i find you have to keep Brillant Color "on".

http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1761516-benq-w1070-reviewer-s-recommended-best-settings.html


Adjusting the greyscale is not the way to achieve better color saturation (if that is what you have done), what you have done is increase your color temp away from 6500K and pushed the projector further away from being D65.

If you have used the gain controls in the CMS and not the color temp controls then you are better off using the Saturation CMS controls for 3D.

It's likely you have made it brighter with blue pushed whites and this is probably what you are finding more appealing while in 3D (glasses on).

I know this is tough to do without proper calibration gear but there have been other suggestions made in this thread that will yield better results for 3D color saturation.

Jason
post #4829 of 8495
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I know this is tough to do without proper calibration gear but there have been other suggestions made in this thread that will yield better results for 3D color saturation.

Jason[/quote]

Jason where ate the settings that you mention?


Thanks

Ralph
post #4830 of 8495
FYI:

Hey Guy's was searching for a current Video calibration disc and found this site it could be on a this forum as a calibration tools since they mentioned that AVS forum will be happy to see the new spears & Munsil 2D & 3D calibration disk, which recently came out at a cost of $30, see the enclosed link, the interview is with both Spears & Munsil is about one hour long but has a lot of good information about the DVD Disk.



http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/portfolio/home-theater-geeks-159-podcast/
Edited by zapper - 5/27/13 at 7:20pm
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