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post #511 of 8488
Optoma ZD201 work great with w1070, but only when using 720p@60Hz (ie : PS3) - If you want your Blu-ray player to work direclty in 1080p 3D, you'll need 144Hz DLP-link glasses because BenQ w1070 has a new DLP chip for Texas instrument, enabling it to have triple flash @ 144hz.

About the Sainsonic glasses : even if manual says 120Hz, it works great in 144Hz (loss in luminosity is important with theses glasses, but you'll just have to activate "normal mode" for your lamp on Benq w1070. In my opinion, it's a great deal for the price - about 30€ on this side of Atlantic)

You can also buy the official BenQ glasses or the Volfoni Edge 1.1+ (tested and approved by users here : http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/benq-w1070-dlp-full-ready-899-euros-test-ligne-t36433.html)

Greetings from France !
post #512 of 8488
Well on the Sainsonic Glasses I got my pair from this seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SainSonic-144Hz-3D-DLP-Link-Ready-Universal-Rechargeable-Active-Shutter-Glasses-/180897556929?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item2a1e55a9c1

I feel a little better about the reported failure within a few months because of this:

If item defective in 3 months we will send you a replacement without extra charge, or offer refund upon faulty received.

After 3 months you are still welcomed to send it back to us for exchang.

Buyer may responsible for all return shipping costs.

In case you receive wrong products due to shipping error, please contact us for exchange or refund. If it's damaged , please refuse to accept and contact us as soon as possible.

Guarantee

1. 12 months Manufacturer's Warranty .

2.We guarantee 100% customer satisfaction. If your item is not as described or faulty when you receive it we will replace it for you with no additional charge.

So we at lease have a year to find out.

RIch
post #513 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiatefr View Post

Optoma ZD201 work great with w1070, but only when using 720p@60Hz (ie : PS3) - If you want your Blu-ray player to work direclty in 1080p 3D, you'll need 144Hz DLP-link glasses because BenQ w1070 has a new DLP chip for Texas instrument, enabling it to have triple flash @ 144hz.
About the Sainsonic glasses : even if manual says 120Hz, it works great in 144Hz (loss in luminosity is important with theses glasses, but you'll just have to activate "normal mode" for your lamp on Benq w1070. In my opinion, it's a great deal for the price - about 30€ on this side of Atlantic)
You can also buy the official BenQ glasses or the Volfoni Edge 1.1+ (tested and approved by users here : http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/benq-w1070-dlp-full-ready-899-euros-test-ligne-t36433.html)
Greetings from France !

Thanks for all the interesting info. I am also following the French forum although I miss a lot due to google translation and it gets tiring after a while. Let me ask you will they not work then with the1080p 3D the optoma glasses through 1.4 HDMI? Are they not backward compatible? I find it hard to believe but please let me know as I will try to find different glasses should I decide to buy the w1070.

Edit: I just show the glasses you bought from Amazon.fr . They are not the same like the ones from ebay> well you should know that amazon.co.uk has them but they are not refered to us 144hz. Item model number: Zodiac 203 ASIN: B007PWUQFK
Check the description from the two amazons
AmazonFR:
Use of technology 144Hz of new, advanced generation as the level of other produces 120 Hz

AmazonUK:

Specification:
3D Glasses type Active shutter 3D glasses
Field Rate:120Hz
no mention of 144Hz which makes me think that tthe 120Hz work just fine for this projector even with 1080p 3D. I will keep on looking though.

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Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Well on the Sainsonic Glasses I got my pair from this seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SainSonic-144Hz-3D-DLP-Link-Ready-Universal-Rechargeable-Active-Shutter-Glasses-/180897556929?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item2a1e55a9c1
I feel a little better about the reported failure within a few months because of this:
If item defective in 3 months we will send you a replacement without extra charge, or offer refund upon faulty received.
After 3 months you are still welcomed to send it back to us for exchang.
Buyer may responsible for all return shipping costs.
In case you receive wrong products due to shipping error, please contact us for exchange or refund. If it's damaged , please refuse to accept and contact us as soon as possible.
Guarantee
1. 12 months Manufacturer's Warranty .
2.We guarantee 100% customer satisfaction. If your item is not as described or faulty when you receive it we will replace it for you with no additional charge.
So we at lease have a year to find out.
RIch

I know but they cost more to send them back and get new ones and I want to save the money for better quality glasses. It's just me as I have had terrible experienece with cheap chinese products in the past and have now decided to buy only brand name electronics when the price has dropped. I am sure your glasses will be fine you have nothing to worry about. I didn't mean to worry you with my experience but it is what it is. Maybe I have pressed the buttton harder than I should have. wink.gif

Edit: I just saw that your seller was different than mine(which was directly from China) it might be the case that my seller had a bad batch so even better for you. Generally importing directly from china might cause all kinds of rpoblems as stock is not checked the way a US seller will.
Edited by elgriego - 12/11/12 at 11:08am
post #514 of 8488
Thanks you did but at lease there is a warranty..worst comes to worst..

And if you check your name brand products I bet you will find they are made in china as well..(Almost everything is now a days...darn it)

Granted in some cases held to a higher standard, but not always, so why pay for the brand name and give them money when you MIGHT bypass them and buy directly from the maker? Cheaper?

Rich

PS I have been following this thread from the beginning and it was reported that the W1070 might come in under $1000.00 and it was reported to be around $800.00.

So My post that $400.00 more may put me out of market is not unfair...to post that is also fair, others may what to know.

Thanks for the link...that is under $1000.00 barely...but until it is for sale a Fry's Electronics where I can try it and if I don't like it return it..I rather NOT use mail order where it will cost me $50.00 to $100.00 to return it, and then wait over a week before I can get a refund and try another unit.

I do wish i could get the answers to my questions about the W1070:
And on the w1070:

A) Does it have the same setting window, IE does it take up about 1/4 of the screen all the time you adjusting things?

B) Do you have color level control all the time or if not what do you have with what inputs?

C) Do you have tint control as above??

D) Does anyone see any de-interlacing artifacts?

So far no one has answered these questions.
Edited by racprops - 12/11/12 at 8:49am
post #515 of 8488
Well, i personnaly owns both Optoma ZD201 and Sainsonic glasses :

Optoma ZD201 : work only when 720p@60Hz is detected by BenQ1070 - could not have them work with my BR player in 1080p 3D [problem is that ZD201 only work at 120Hz or below - They can't synchronise with the 144Hz flash of the BenQ 1070 when you watch a movie at 24 frames per sec 1080p 3D]. 3D with BenQ w1070 is really smooth thanks to that 144Hz technology (a multiple of 24).
Sainsonic : work at all resolutions and frequencies.

That said, the 3D@ 720p with Optoma ZD201 is brighter than the one you obtain with Sainsonic (that's why i advice you to active "normal mode" for the lamp when using Sainsonic glasses)

Concerning the differences between Amazon.uk and Amazon.fr, i think you'll have the same glasses as me because ASIN is the same for both products "B007PWUQFK" meaning it's the exact same product, BUT, feel free to ask the seller !

=> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Standard_Identification_Number

Sorry for my English, sometimes it's kind of "French English" ^^'
Edited by Spartiatefr - 12/11/12 at 8:59am
post #516 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by elgriego View Post

Thanks for all the interesting info. I am also following the French forum although I miss a lot due to google translation and it gets tiring after a while. Let me ask you will they not work then with the1080p 3D the optoma glasses through 1.4 HDMI? Are they not backward compatible? I find it hard to believe but please let me know as I will try to find different glasses should I decide to buy the w1070.

Correct. The ZD201 don't work when you output 1080p / 24Hz through HDMI 1.4 to the W1070 because it then uses 144Hz. I tried them and they wouldn't sync, neither would my other pair of 120Hz from ebay. The Benqs were fine and I have to say, 1080p 24Hz w/ 144Hz was much "smoother" to the eyes which is why I send my ZD201 back
post #517 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiatefr View Post

Well, i personnaly owns both Optoma ZD201 and Sainsonic glasses :
Optoma ZD201 : work only when 720p@60Hz is detected by BenQ1070 - could not have them work with my BR player in 1080p 3D [problem is that ZD201 only work at 120Hz or below - They can't synchronise with the 144Hz flash of the BenQ 1070 when you watch a movie at 24 frames per sec 1080p 3D]. 3D with BenQ w1070 is really smooth thanks to that 144Hz technology (a multiple of 24).
Sainsonic : work at all resolutions and frequencies.
That said, the 3D@ 720p with Optoma ZD201 is brighter than the one you obtain with Sainsonic (that's why i advice you to active "normal mode" for the lamp when using Sainsonic glasses)
Concerning the differences between Amazon.uk and Amazon.fr, i think you'll have the same glasses as me because ASIN is the same for both products "B007PWUQFK" meaning it's the exact same product, BUT, feel free to ask the seller !
=> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Standard_Identification_Number
Sorry for my English, sometimes it's kind of "French English" ^^'

Yes thank you for your info. I take your word for it that the optoma will not work at 1080p 3D but it is concerning. It shouldn't have happened. If I buy sainsonic again I will do through Amazon only through Amazon. I have had enough bad experiences with Ebay sellers going back on their word having to spend many hours writing emails and complains. With Amazon you just send them back if they become defective and get refund or exhange. I did not buy the ones from Amazon before but the ones from Ebay (only one seller has them) and this where all the problems arise. I might actually give the ones from Amazon a try if I decide to buy the w1070. For now though I will keep my optomas they are very reliable.
post #518 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by mart242 View Post

Correct. The ZD201 don't work when you output 1080p / 24Hz through HDMI 1.4 to the W1070 because it then uses 144Hz. I tried them and they wouldn't sync, neither would my other pair of 120Hz from ebay. The Benqs were fine and I have to say, 1080p 24Hz w/ 144Hz was much "smoother" to the eyes which is why I send my ZD201 back

Thanks for the heads up!!! I will seriously keep this in mind.
post #519 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

answers to my questions about the W1070:
A) Does it have the same setting window, IE does it take up about 1/4 of the screen all the time you adjusting things?
B) Do you have color level control all the time or if not what do you have with what inputs?
C) Do you have tint control as above??
D) Does anyone see any de-interlacing artifacts?

A) No.
B) Maybe, I only use HDMI which does have color control.
C) Possible, don't remember.
D) No, this isn't a business class projector please stop trying to compare em.
post #520 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by racprops View Post

Thanks you did but at lease there is a warranty..worst comes to worst..
And if you check your name brand products I bet you will find they are made in china as well..(Almost everything is now a days...darn it)
Granted in some cases held to a higher standard, but not always, so why pay for the brand name and give them money when you MIGHT bypass them and buy directly from the maker? Cheaper?
.......

I just saw that your seller was different than mine(which was directly from China) it might be the case that my seller had a bad batch or just doesn't check his stock so even better for you. Generally importing directly from china might cause all kinds of problems as stock is not checked the way a US seller will.

Surely everything is made in China now but a Chinese design made in China is completely diffrent that an American brand name design made in China(eg iphone) or any other brand name that has a reputation to uphold.
post #521 of 8488
That is true...

And his shipping company IS Amazon right here in Phoenix AZ. (they came in a Amazon box from Amazon..)

All the good that might do me. (His fulfillment company)

I am hopping my new HDMI Cables come today so I can hook the system up via them and remove the SVGA Cables..

Then I can do a test of the 3D play back using 3D movies from Cox and see how well this works out.

I will post my findings with a link to my review of the BenQ MW516.

Rich
post #522 of 8488
I noticed this projector can do 120hz at 1280x800. With that being outside of the projectors native resolution, how well does it handle that resolution? Do things get blurry?
post #523 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiatefr View Post

Well, i personnaly owns both Optoma ZD201 and Sainsonic glasses :
Optoma ZD201 : work only when 720p@60Hz is detected by BenQ1070 - could not have them work with my BR player in 1080p 3D [problem is that ZD201 only work at 120Hz or below - They can't synchronise with the 144Hz flash of the BenQ 1070 when you watch a movie at 24 frames per sec 1080p 3D]. 3D with BenQ w1070 is really smooth thanks to that 144Hz technology (a multiple of 24).
Sainsonic : work at all resolutions and frequencies.
That said, the 3D@ 720p with Optoma ZD201 is brighter than the one you obtain with Sainsonic (that's why i advice you to active "normal mode" for the lamp when using Sainsonic glasses)
Concerning the differences between Amazon.uk and Amazon.fr, i think you'll have the same glasses as me because ASIN is the same for both products "B007PWUQFK" meaning it's the exact same product, BUT, feel free to ask the seller !
=> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Standard_Identification_Number
Sorry for my English, sometimes it's kind of "French English" ^^'

Can I ask you please(or any other owner) will the W1070 play 1080p SBS via a PC with the 120Hz glasses or just 720p. Do the glasses synchronise with a PC running 1920 * 1080 at 60Hz/50Hz or 24Hz. I mean it is not frame sequantial and a PC doesnt need an HDMI 1.4 to play SBS 1080p so why should the resolution make any diffrence? If anyone can answer this please do.
post #524 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by mekret View Post

No, this isn't a business class projector please stop trying to compare em.


Agreed!!! The continuous posts about the MW516 is frustrating for the rest of us trying to learn about the W1070.
post #525 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by elgriego View Post

Can I ask you please(or any other owner) will the W1070 play 1080p SBS via a PC with the 120Hz glasses or just 720p. Do the glasses synchronise with a PC running 1920 * 1080 at 60Hz/50Hz or 24Hz. I mean it is not frame sequantial and a PC doesnt need an HDMI 1.4 to play SBS 1080p so why should the resolution make any diffrence? If anyone can answer this please do.
1080 SBS must be played in 1080i, not 1080p.
post #526 of 8488
Geez those JVC's look fuzzy by comparison.

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Originally Posted by kraine View Post

And here one funny sharpness comparaison between the E-Shift 1 (JVC X70), The E-Shift 2 (JVC X55) and a new budget DLP full hd projector the BenQ W1070 wink.gif
JVC X70 E-SHIFT 1 :
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BenQ W1070 :
benqpiqueetlettre.jpg
JVC X55 E-Shift 2 :
jvcpiqu.jpg
BenQ W1070 :
benqw1070piqu.jpg
post #527 of 8488
I got 3D CORP glasses today, tint is very brownish and uncomfortable, optical quality also seems not good. I will return them. Now we have BwnQ D3 and Sainsonic. How good are they in watching for long duration?
post #528 of 8488
I'm really liking my D3s. They cut out enough light so the projector isn't blinding me anymore.
post #529 of 8488
I would point out other than a couple of posts about 3D glasses there has been no new post about the W1070 in three or four pages, other than my questions about the W1070, and yes in comparison with the BenQ projector I got.

I am very serious in trying to compare the two.

I am very serious in trying to find out more about the W1070 and how it is different to the MW516.

The screen shots are the first post on the W1070 in many pages and they are just a recap from page one in this thread.

The two projectors are VERY close in details.

Only differences I can find is the W1070 is 2000 L and the WM516 is 2800L

And the Native Resolution is WXGA (1280 x 800) VS: Native Resolution 1080p (1920 x 1080) for the W1070

Contrast is the same..10,000 to 1

Both will do 1080I and P..

Both do 3D.

The W1070 has two HDMI inputs to one on the WM516.

So how important is the extra native resolution??

Someone said the adjustment screen is not the same but no one has shown what it is like on the W1070.

Everything is compared to something else other wise we have no yard stick.

When I buy anything I want to know how it compares to other things like it, be it tires or cars.

Rich
Edited by racprops - 12/11/12 at 4:05pm
post #530 of 8488
The "adjustment screen" doesn't take up much room at all and can also be moved.
post #531 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by mekret View Post

The "adjustment screen" doesn't take up much room at all and can also be moved.

Do you mean the Menu Screens are small?

Rew
post #532 of 8488
On my WM516 the adjustment screen is about 1/4 of the screen and yes it can be moved to the four corners.

On my old HP when you went into the adjustment screen once you selected one setting to adjust it reduced to just that adjustment all by its self on the bottom of the screen and if you used a up or down button it changed to another adjustment still one bar on the bottom of the screen.

This gives you a much better view of what your changing.

Not a deal breaker but the HP system is nicer.

Rich
post #533 of 8488
So I am somewhat concered about this brightness everyone is talking about. I get my projector tomorrow but dont have a screen. I put in an order to Jamestown , but it wont be filled till January. I contacted James and asked for a price to use the Seymour AT fabric and it is very reasonable. My concern now is am I better off with high contrast .8 gain material or the Seymour 1.2 gain AT. Its not too late to change my order. I have a dedicated room, no windows, dark walls, deep bashe ( sp?) ceiling and carpet.

I do plan on watching 3d movies and sports, plus gaming. Those with the projector or experiance please chime in, this again, is my first projector.

In the mean time I am reading all I can about calibration, seems to make Differential equations classes seem easy.....
post #534 of 8488
Can anyone post a link to where I can buy the new Benq 3D glasses?
post #535 of 8488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snipe3000 View Post

I noticed this projector can do 120hz at 1280x800. With that being outside of the projectors native resolution, how well does it handle that resolution? Do things get blurry?

I'm running mine at 1920x808 custom rez from my PC for wide screen gaming and it's super crisp. Plus, I can just use the digital zoom to "get back" the letter bars and fill up the whole 16:9 area. Not ideal, but I'm not a fan of constantly switching rez depending on content.
post #536 of 8488
Sorry not sure how I missed that, I ordered a 130" 16:9.

I was under the impression that a grey screen gave better contrast even in light controlled environments. My thinbking was the more perfect the environment ( black as night) the more obvious that the projector is casting grey. Is that not the case?

based on your comments I thinkn I am still leaning for the 130" jamestown with Seymour AT material...

thanks,
Adam
post #537 of 8488
So any review on BenQ D3 glasses performance? is it as high quality as ZD201 which do not work?
post #538 of 8488
I just got the w1070 today. Wow, it can really throw a big screen from 10ft. I also have the Optoma HD33 in possession and have been comparing the two. The HD33 seems to be a bit more crisp, the configuration out of the box could be better as I havent calibrated either yet. There are two major differences between the two I have noticed...

1. Noise
The HD33 only shows up as 3db quieter on paper, however when using it personally, I find it night and day difference from the w1070. Even comparing the eco modes, the optoma won hands down. The benq is almost loud enough that I would consider a hush box for the quieter scenes. It is directly above my head approx. 3ft.

2. 3D compatibility
For whatever reason, I cant get 3D to work on the w1070. I have tried full sbs .ISO and half sbs mkv files via xbmc, total media theater, and windvd. I just cant get the 3D format to be correct. I dont even have access to 3D function when my resolution is 1920x1080p 60hz on my HTPC. Also, when I lower resolutioun down to 1280, I am able to get some side by side to work. However, when the w1070 goes into 3d mode it emits a very bright red hue... it looks terrible. I cant seem to get rid of it, I have tried all the advanced options. Am I the only one experiences this red tint while only in 3d mode? All of my 3D content is being run on a brand new alienware pc with all the goodies and latest drivers... I am at a loss.

The optoma 3D worked right out of the box... any thing I threw at it would play 3D flawlesly in any resolution. As I said before, all 3D content is being sourced from my HTPC( no 3D blu ray player or ps3).

If someone could please help me solve the 3D issue I am having with the w1070 (cant get anything to play above 720p and when in 3D mode a bright red hue over the whole screen). I will post vids of the noise comparisons between the two and also some vids showing the performance of the w1070.
post #539 of 8488
Try 1080p/24 if you can, that should work. (48hz). Might have to set that up as a custom res setting. Are you using NVidia or AMD? The Catalyst custom res settings are not super obvious to find, but not that hard either.
post #540 of 8488
Yes, its Nvidia and when I change to 1920x1080P with 24hz it does not allow me to select side by side 3D.... All of my 3d content is SBS. It only allows for frame packing and top and bottom 3d modes at that resolution. It looks as though SBS is only supported at 1080i/50hz or 60hz. When I set up a custom resolution for that, it says its not supported by the display... How are people watching SBS 3D on this projector at 1080p?
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