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post #6391 of 8561
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Originally Posted by bighvy76 View Post

Mine is 120" and GTA 5 looks just fine. I don't know why they would said its bad. Its as good as they made it.
Off topic of image quality, but I also have a 120" screen and have found that I game far less on it than I thought I would. I'm okay playing the retro consoles on it, anything with a 4:3 AR, but the 16:9 image across 120" just seems way too much. I can't really explain it, I just don't like it and much prefer to play on a smaller screen where I can quickly see what is going on rather than scanning a large surface.
post #6392 of 8561
Andy,
Thank you for your opinion. Our visual memory is much like our auditory memories, limited and fleeting. Example; look a a color of material on some piece of furniture in your home. Now go to the nearest fabric store and try to match that color exactly. Good luck. Your (now dead) Panny may have been great in it's day, but not being able to provide a side by side comparison will leave you with biased / inexact results. As humans we tend to remember the high-lights and forget the downsides. Your Old projector may have been all that you remember, but, did you pay the same amount for it? Were you out of the "states" at that time?

Running the BenQ projector at 50Hz and expecting anything other than failure was optimistic, even with a "converter". Its just not the same. Look at the sine wave on a scope.

Many of us do not have the luxury of being able to have a dedicated home theater in a man cave that is pitch black. Your projector is also VERY close to a small screen, this all aids to preserve a high lumen count on screen. No wonder you find the Smart-Eco setting too bright. Logical. That setting may not serve any purpose that YOU may have, but for others of us it works well in our environment. At my home, our theater is in my wife's daytime art studio (her hobby) and I cannot paint the walls / ceiling with Black Widow paint. However, we do have black out shades and at night it's pretty dark anyway.(no street lights) The reflections from the ceiling and walls refract light back onto the screen somewhat which is why I prefer the Smart -Eco. Please show me where it was said that Smart-Eco INCREASED the black levels.

I totally agree with your observations of light leakage, many of us on this thread have made the same observations. It will be interesting to see what type of longevity you get from your bulb resulting from the modifications to correct this design flaw. Please keep us informed. As anyone who has ever built any stereo tube gear will tell you, tube life directly correlates to heat.

Your opinion that some of the custom settings that have been posted recently do not apply and/or improve upon the default picture is just that, your opinion. Myself and others that also have the latest build and firmware models disagree. I found that skin tones were much more realistic, and soft shadow details were improved with "Withers" settings. Should be even better in the Economy mode than what I am using. Light walls and ceiling do not help.
You pounded on this projector pretty hard, do you recommend another in the same price range instead?
Ron
post #6393 of 8561
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Originally Posted by butie120 View Post

Sweet pics! Thanks for sharing them with us. I also just purchased GTA V and am looking into getting a projector. There was a post earlier about how terrible GTA V looks on his projector. How do you feel gaming looks with your image? I plan on doing a 98" diagonal image. Let me know your thoughts!

GTA V looks fine. There's no reason why the projector would make it look terrible.
However, the bigger picture obviously makes the game's lack of anti-aliasing more apparent.
post #6394 of 8561
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Originally Posted by THe_Flash View Post

Off topic of image quality, but I also have a 120" screen and have found that I game far less on it than I thought I would. I'm okay playing the retro consoles on it, anything with a 4:3 AR, but the 16:9 image across 120" just seems way too much. I can't really explain it, I just don't like it and much prefer to play on a smaller screen where I can quickly see what is going on rather than scanning a large surface.

This is really a function of how close you are sitting and what you are use to. I have had friends over watching football and their comments on the 120" screen is that they don't know what to look at it with it being so big, you almost have to pan one way then the other to look at both sides of the field. Depending on how close you are there are areas of the screen that get out of your focused field of vision, unlike a smaller set from a distance. I could definitely see how there is an optimum viewing angle for gaming where a full field of vision is important. Probably a better conversation to be had in another forum....
post #6395 of 8561
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Originally Posted by Renron View Post

Running the BenQ projector at 50Hz and expecting anything other than failure was optimistic, even with a "converter". Its just not the same. Look at the sine wave on a scope.

In Europe we have 576i50 since the stoneage, 720p50 and 1080i50 since a handful years, my 1070 has about 400 hours, 99% in 50 Hz
where is the Problem??
post #6396 of 8561
I read a bit about a lot of light leakage out the side and front vents. I have no light leakage at all . My projector is about 7.5 in down off the ceiling so that may be why. I have a June built one with 1.05
post #6397 of 8561
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Originally Posted by bighvy76 View Post

I read a bit about a lot of light leakage out the side and front vents. I have no light leakage at all . My projector is about 7.5 in down off the ceiling so that may be why. I have a June built one with 1.05


same here. very little leakage if any. mine is mounted near the ceiling too. still no complaints about this projector.
post #6398 of 8561
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Originally Posted by Auric View Post

In Europe we have 576i50 since the stoneage, 720p50 and 1080i50 since a handful years, my 1070 has about 400 hours, 99% in 50 Hz
where is the Problem??

I mis-read the specs. from BenQ, My apologies, I was wrong.
Power Supply AC 100 to 240 V, 50 to 60 Hz
Ron
post #6399 of 8561
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Originally Posted by farleyville View Post

Add me to the list of fan motor noise. I just hit 200 hours and noticed watching MNF last night a chirping sound. Thought it was crickets outside at first, then realized it was too rythmic... The noise seemed to correspond with the colors I saw looking into the housing, so I'm guessing its the color wheel making this noise? Anyone found a remedy to this, are you living with it, or is this a warranty call?

I have a w1080 with only 80 hours on it. I just requested an RMA for the chirping noise. The sound appears to be coming from the exhaust fan and switching modes did not make the noise go away. I also thought it was a cricket since they are right outside my house and I can hear them from inside. The projector could have been making that noise for a long time since I was just ignoring it until I realized it was the projector. Somebody posted a video of their 1070 making noise here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSK0O-OFD8
post #6400 of 8561
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Originally Posted by bighvy76 View Post

I read a bit about a lot of light leakage out the side and front vents. I have no light leakage at all . My projector is about 7.5 in down off the ceiling so that may be why. I have a June built one with 1.05

I guarantee you have light leakage. If you look in the vent on the projector, do you see pitch black, or can you see the glow of the light. What your eyes are seeing is light leakage. Your room may be oriented in a way that it doesnt show up on your walls, but I guarantee your projector has it. If you look at the video posted one spot up from this post, you can see what I'm talking about. In a dark room, there will be light leakage. How noticeable it is is another story. For me, its only noticeable if I try to look for it.

Does not affect viewing for me at all.
post #6401 of 8561
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Originally Posted by farleyville View Post

I guarantee you have light leakage. If you look in the vent on the projector, do you see pitch black, or can you see the glow of the light. What your eyes are seeing is light leakage. Your room may be oriented in a way that it doesnt show up on your walls, but I guarantee your projector has it. If you look at the video posted one spot up from this post, you can see what I'm talking about. In a dark room, there will be light leakage. How noticeable it is is another story. For me, its only noticeable if I try to look for it.

Does not affect viewing for me at all.

I also commented about no light leakage or very little - I think he may have meant that there is no impact on viewing. That's what I meant, at least. It's definitely there if you look up at the mounted projector but never noticeable while watching for me either.
post #6402 of 8561
OK what I'm saying is that I'm sitting directly below my projector and my ceiling is eggshell black. When I look up in my complete dark room u see no light shining on the ceiling on either side if the projector. I have a small in front where the main projection comes out the lens. I have herd people say it has actually shot out to the side walls. I love the projector so far
post #6403 of 8561
How do you guys update your W1070? I looked on their site but couldn't find a link or anything?
post #6404 of 8561
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

How do you guys update your W1070? I looked on their site but couldn't find a link or anything?

The awesome folks on here put together a step by step on how to do it and listed the firmware link (rwestley for instructions and rlburnside for the firmware link) . It is "risky" if you can't follow instructions well. So only do it if you are comfortable with firmware upgrades. If you have 1.06, I wouldn't recommend upgrading the firmware.

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Edited by eah9 - 9/26/13 at 8:21am
post #6405 of 8561

I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this problem I am having.

 

My w1070 is hooked up through an Onkyo 5509 prepro. It works perfectly for all my sources such as Bluray player, HD-DVD player, set-top TV satellite box etc. But it will not display any signal when I connect my laptop to the Onkyo via HDMI. Previously when I had a plasma, connecting the laptop just showed up on screen as you’d expect it to. The plasma has now been sold and so I have this issue that I cannot get the PJ to display the laptop HDMI output. I need to connect the laptop to the Onkyo so that I can run REW, which I have done dozens of times before via the plasma with no problem.

 

I have tried every resolution out of the laptop and just about everything I can think of. Anyone any idea why an HDMI laptop would work via a plasma hooked to the Onkyo but not via a PJ hooked to the Onkyo?

post #6406 of 8561
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this problem I am having.

My w1070 is hooked up through an Onkyo 5509 prepro. It works perfectly for all my sources such as Bluray player, HD-DVD player, set-top TV satellite box etc. But it will not display any signal when I connect my laptop to the Onkyo via HDMI. Previously when I had a plasma, connecting the laptop just showed up on screen as you’d expect it to. The plasma has now been sold and so I have this issue that I cannot get the PJ to display the laptop HDMI output. I need to connect the laptop to the Onkyo so that I can run REW, which I have done dozens of times before via the plasma with no problem.

I have tried every resolution out of the laptop and just about everything I can think of. Anyone any idea why an HDMI laptop would work via a plasma hooked to the Onkyo but not via a PJ hooked to the Onkyo?


did you try a different hdmi input on the avr from the laptop?
post #6407 of 8561
just got this mounted last night....curious to see if anyone has any insight into a minor issue with the projection. top two and bottom left corners are perfectly alighed....the bottom right is off about 3/4" or so i'd say on sides and bottom. Any ideas? It's not a major issue as it's pretty close and looks damn good but just curious. I could see if a whole side was off, but 3 corners perfect and one off seems odd. keystone is at 0btw.
post #6408 of 8561
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this problem I am having.

My w1070 is hooked up through an Onkyo 5509 prepro. It works perfectly for all my sources such as Bluray player, HD-DVD player, set-top TV satellite box etc. But it will not display any signal when I connect my laptop to the Onkyo via HDMI. Previously when I had a plasma, connecting the laptop just showed up on screen as you’d expect it to. The plasma has now been sold and so I have this issue that I cannot get the PJ to display the laptop HDMI output. I need to connect the laptop to the Onkyo so that I can run REW, which I have done dozens of times before via the plasma with no problem.

I have tried every resolution out of the laptop and just about everything I can think of. Anyone any idea why an HDMI laptop would work via a plasma hooked to the Onkyo but not via a PJ hooked to the Onkyo?


did you try a different hdmi input on the avr from the laptop?

 

I didn't. I used the front panel HDMI input which is what always worked before with the plasma. The only thing that has changed in the entire setup is that a plasma used to hang off the end of the Onkyo HDMI Main Output, but now the PJ hangs there instead. The Onkyo is being recognised as a display by Windows too - when I plug in the HDMI Windows sees it and tells me that a new display called Onkyo 5509 is connected. Weird.

post #6409 of 8561
kbarnes
You might also try different aspect ratios in the PJ menu if you haven't already.
post #6410 of 8561
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Originally Posted by Sincerity View Post

just got this mounted last night....curious to see if anyone has any insight into a minor issue with the projection. top two and bottom left corners are perfectly alighed....the bottom right is off about 3/4" or so i'd say on sides and bottom. Any ideas? It's not a major issue as it's pretty close and looks damn good but just curious. I could see if a whole side was off, but 3 corners perfect and one off seems odd. keystone is at 0btw.

What screen are you using? And how is it mounted? When I hung my fixed elite sable (about 1ft out from the wall - custom built thing to move it away/in front of the back wall window frame), the right corner was slightly back further than the others (didn't hang exactly straight down). A quick test for that would be to push or pull that corner slightly forward/backward while the pj is on. That fixed it for me or at least gave me a clue to what was going on.

Hopefully it's the screen - that can be easily corrected and not something with the pj. In my case it was my screen/the way it was hung.

I would also recommend a laser level to make sure something vertically/horizontally or with the distance from the pj isn't off somewhere.

Good luck!
post #6411 of 8561
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Originally Posted by eah9 View Post

What screen are you using? And how is it mounted? When I hung my fixed elite sable (about 1ft out from the wall - custom built thing to move it away/in front of the back wall window frame), the right corner was slightly back further than the others (didn't hang exactly straight down). A quick test for that would be to push or pull that corner slightly forward/backward while the pj is on. That fixed it for me or at least gave me a clue to what was going on.

Hopefully it's the screen - that can be easily corrected and not something with the pj. In my case it was my screen/the way it was hung.

I would also recommend a laser level to make sure something vertically/horizontally or with the distance from the pj isn't off somewhere.

Good luck!

Hey thanks for the reply...it's an Elite screen 100"....mounted flush on wall. Great idea it was late last night and I was frustrated after mounting smile.gif So I will check that tonight when I get home. hopefully that's it....
post #6412 of 8561
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Originally Posted by Sincerity View Post

Hey thanks for the reply...it's an Elite screen 100"....mounted flush on wall. Great idea it was late last night and I was frustrated after mounting smile.gif So I will check that tonight when I get home. hopefully that's it....

Good luck! That's the screen I have too....
post #6413 of 8561
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Originally Posted by Sincerity View Post

Hey thanks for the reply...it's an Elite screen 100"....mounted flush on wall. Great idea it was late last night and I was frustrated after mounting smile.gif So I will check that tonight when I get home. hopefully that's it....

I had a similar problem when first setting up my BenQ: the solution was actually that the projector wasn't 100% square to the screen, so that may be the issue here (obviously it could also be the screen or an internal projector problem as well). Just thought that I'd let you know that it's happened to others and wasn't a huge deal to fix. Best of luck tonight!
post #6414 of 8561
Greetings, I had some family drop in unexpectedly from out of town; which was great but sure did interrupt the normal routines.

Anyway as to answer some questions that have been brought up.

1. Received mine in early January this year with V1.03 firmware. December 2012 build
2. Updated Firmware from 1.03 to 1.05
3. And Again when v1.06 became available
4 Will probable flash v1.07 this weekend if get the time.

As to the lamp modes below this is a copy & paste from the manual.

Lamp mode Description
Normal 100% lamp brightness
Economic Saves 30% lamp power consumption
SmartEco Saves up to 70% lamp power consumption depending on the content brightness level

Economic Lamp setting should give a better Black level as brightness is reduced. They go hand in hand in DLP's.

SmartEco is new and we are all learning if it lives up to it's billing.
As I said earlier I have over 3000 hours + and while I don't have exact measurements, it is still very bright!
In the past if you could hit 3000 hours on a projector, it would be noticeable dimmer.( Managed to due it a few times in the past.)

But I personally have been very happy with the W1070 for the price it has performed way beyond my expectations.
Excellent Color and depth let along the 3D mode.
While black level is not the best it is certainly very good for a entry level DLP projector with this kind of brightness.

I have used SmartEco since the beginning so all of my observation are based on that setting.
Since this is a new lamp mode which is said to give both extended lamp life and nearly the same brightness as the Normal mode
depending on brightness of the video it is displaying.

I for one am using this projector in a semi light controllable room, my living room. So for me high brightness with good contrast is important.
I don't have the luxury of a dedicated Bat Cave. It is the main TV if you will.

Revisiting turn-off, mine momentarily blanks(no video) then a it displays a turning Off message.
Initially it seemed that the lamp power drops and the sound changed from the projector reminding me of the fan or fans going high for a couple of seconds.

No cricket sounds!

Also keep in mind there are 3 individual fans in this projector.

But upon listening again I am not sure if it goes high or not, sound definitely changes; could be color wheel spinning down changing the sound.
This shut down action was introduced in V1.06 as far as I know. Don't remember it before then.

My equipment:
BenQ W1070
Lumagen XS
Denon AVR-4310ci

Polk CS10 (Center)
Set of Bose 161 (Front -highs)
Set of Axiom M-60 (Fronts)
Set of Axiom QS4 (Rear Surrounds)
T1003A 10" 240 Watt Subwoofer

Cheers
Rew


Using the info provided by RLBURNSIDE(Thanks so much!!) I will recap firmware updates.

1.03

Problem-1- To improve the flickering when smart ECO mode + dynamic setting
Problem-2- To add “Background” color in OSD

1.04

Problem-1- When at low temperature environment, fan oil would become thickened, cause rotational speed of
fan can’t reach target then shut down.
Problem-2- Keystone bug: When playing 3D (Frame packing), and then switch to 2D, and keystone value
can’t be kept.

1.05

Problem-1- ISF setting cannot be saved
Problem-2- compatibility problem for some unique 3D DVD players(Philips)
Problem-3- OSD Swedish language of ”on& off” wrong translation

1.06

Fixes:

-1- Hg bridge problem symptom: can’t turn on a projector, but NDF after transportation; few cases found in BQC.
There is Hg (Mercury) in a lamp bulb. Whenever the liquid mercury make the Short-circuit of electrodes of the lamp, the unit can’t
be turn on. To change the cooling status and lamp ignition behavior can make mercury condense at different locations of a bulb.
Due to Hg (Mercury) changing the location in lamp bulbs during transportation, it will be NDF in ASP.
-2- To improve power-on while system initializing
-3- To improve Philips DVD compatibility issue(BQC)
-4- Add 3D format as appendix
-5- Adjust Audio Curve for BQjp
-6- Japanese OSD correction for Cool and Warm (BQjp)
-7-To enhance HDMI searching speed
-8- To update RC code for new remote RCV011
-9- To modify the gain value to improve HDMI signal searching ability
-10- To add model name W1250 in Factory OSD (only W1070)

Added support for 3D formats:
1280x720p@59/94/60 Hz -- SBS added
1280x720p@50Hz - SBS added
1920x1080p@23.98/24Hz - SBS added
1920x1080p@59.94/60Hz - Top Bottom - added
1920x1080p@50Hz - Top Bottom - added

1.07

ISF Night setting can’t be keep after 2D->3D timing changed
To keep lamp hour after “reset all setting in USE OSD”
To improve the 32 gray level via PS3 HDMI
Modify picture mode of “power off” icon
Modify HSG setting in No signal condition
Edited by Rew452 - 9/27/13 at 10:14am
post #6415 of 8561

It's more like the first one but only with the vertical movment from the center of the lens to the top and not the bottom.

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post #6416 of 8561
Hi there,

I've been looking into picking up one of these projectors, but the more I read into it, I'm not sure that its going to work for my room.. Hoping for some clarification on the vertical lens adjustment.

I have a thread here for discussing my general projector placement which may help with the context a bit: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492350/projector-noobie-help-with-placement

But basically, I have a low beam that runs parallel to my projector wall. My plan was to mount one of these right behind the back of the beam with the lens just below the beam to project onto the projector wall. My understanding is that this projector won't project directly across to my projector wall and I'll lose a few inches of height, but its the vertical lens adjustment that is confusing me. If the projector is ceiling mounted am I only able to use the lens adjustment to move the image further down my wall?? Or can I drop the projector another 10 inches or so below the beam and use the lens adjustment to move the projected image back up my wall to around the height of the beam across the room on the projector wall? Will this projector simply not work for my situation?

Any help would be appreciated!
post #6417 of 8561
Finally got mine mounted on the ceiling to my satisfaction and I'm surprised what a difference it seems to make. Image seems sharper, beter PQ overall. Maybe because it's squared to the screen or could be just placebo, not sure. Also swapped out my old Panasonic Blu-ray player for a newer Sony and this seems to have improved the image as well ...
post #6418 of 8561
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Originally Posted by hadriel89 View Post

Hi there,

I've been looking into picking up one of these projectors, but the more I read into it, I'm not sure that its going to work for my room.. Hoping for some clarification on the vertical lens adjustment.

I have a thread here for discussing my general projector placement which may help with the context a bit: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492350/projector-noobie-help-with-placement

But basically, I have a low beam that runs parallel to my projector wall. My plan was to mount one of these right behind the back of the beam with the lens just below the beam to project onto the projector wall. My understanding is that this projector won't project directly across to my projector wall and I'll lose a few inches of height, but its the vertical lens adjustment that is confusing me. If the projector is ceiling mounted am I only able to use the lens adjustment to move the image further down my wall?? Or can I drop the projector another 10 inches or so below the beam and use the lens adjustment to move the projected image back up my wall to around the height of the beam across the room on the projector wall? Will this projector simply not work for my situation?

Any help would be appreciated!

 

The lens needs to be more or less in line with the top of the screen, so can you not use an adjustable mount to clear the beam?

 

Something like this:

 

http://www.goprojectors.co.uk/Projector-Ceiling-Mount-Kit-p/MNT-PJR-CLNGKIT-1M-SAH.htm?gclid=CLONxO357bkCFeXMtAod3wgACA

 

Amazon probably have a good range, or any specialist PJ place will have them.

 

You can check out the throw distances and screen sizes etc with this calculator:

 

http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ-W1070-projection-calculator-pro.htm

 

Basically, the throw distance is the throw ratio multiplied by the width of the screen. The throw ratio for the w1070 is 1.15-1.50. So, for example, if your screen is 90 inches wide, then the acceptable throw distances are from (1.15 x 90) 103.5 inches/8.6 feet to (1.50 x 90) 135 inches/11.25 feet.


Edited by kbarnes701 - 9/28/13 at 4:14am
post #6419 of 8561
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

The lens needs to be more or less in line with the top of the screen, so can you not use an adjustable mount to clear the beam?

Something like this:

http://www.goprojectors.co.uk/Projector-Ceiling-Mount-Kit-p/MNT-PJR-CLNGKIT-1M-SAH.htm?gclid=CLONxO357bkCFeXMtAod3wgACA

Amazon probably have a good range, or any specialist PJ place will have them.

You can check out the throw distances and screen sizes etc with this calculator:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ-W1070-projection-calculator-pro.htm

Basically, the throw distance is the throw ratio multiplied by the width of the screen. The throw ratio for the w1070 is 1.15-1.50. So, for example, if your screen is 90 inches wide, then the acceptable throw distances are from (1.15 x 90) 103.5 inches/8.6 feet to (1.50 x 90) 135 inches/11.25 feet.

Thanks really appreciate this!! Using that calculator I it seems I can just get within the 'green' for the screen size that I want and throw distance without even having to play around with the zoom very much. I've found a few mounts, but they were a lot more expensive than that one. I found a $30 one on monoprice as well...but not sure if I really want to go that cheap. I'll do some more looking on that end.

For the lens shift, I was reading that the projector (as do most) will naturally project the image lower than the lens is sitting. Is it possible to use the lens shift to move the image back up my wall to the height of the center of the lens? This is my main concern because if it cannot do that I'm substantially cutting the height of my screen which reduces the screen size that I can use which may throw me out of the ranges that are even compatible.
post #6420 of 8561
@hadriel89
Here's another calculator you can use, BenQ's own: http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/
You can "activate" the lens shift to see how it affects the projected image.

Just bought myself a wall mount, hopefully it'll arrive early next week. Then I can decide on what screen size to get.
Shooting on the wall, the IQ is pretty good, but no doubt a screen will make for even better image quality.

Here's a couple of more pics

My old setup


My new setup:
I had to rearrange the living room after getting the PJ. The room is basically mirrored now :P





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