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post #6601 of 8546
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Originally Posted by user141414 View Post

kbarnes701, OZReddog, kreeturez - thank you. Good to hear that the difference in brightness seems to stay constant and doesn't get worse over time.

I took a photo of what I am seeing. The shot is from the credits of "The Croods" and is the best example of what I am seeing with my specific unit. This is one of the worst scenarios since it is a bright and even light-colored background. During most content it looks fantastic, of course. The lamp timer reports 16 hours (equivalent).

I was looking to see this type of effect in photos posted on the forum but didn't come across anything that was this obvious.

For those who have seen the difference in uniformity on their unit, how does this compare? Better, worse, same, or really hard to tell?


Mine is about the same as this, sent it back to Benq and it should be on its way back to me by the end of this week. Hope it gets solved because it bothered me a lot since I watch a lot of movies witb subtitles.
post #6602 of 8546
Lurker alert but I have a few questions I've search high and low for a vent solution for the leakage on the front grill. I saw it once while I was looking at someone else's ht on the site. If any1 has any idea plzz let me know. It was a extension of vent but slanted off to side and I wanted to do same because I've worked hard getting a very dark room. Happy I scored a W1070 for 677 and denon 2112ci for 250
post #6603 of 8546
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

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Originally Posted by user141414 View Post

kbarnes701, OZReddog, kreeturez - thank you. Good to hear that the difference in brightness seems to stay constant and doesn't get worse over time.


I took a photo of what I am seeing. The shot is from the credits of "The Croods" and is the best example of what I am seeing with my specific unit. This is one of the worst scenarios since it is a bright and even light-colored background. During most content it looks fantastic, of course. The lamp timer reports 16 hours (equivalent).


I was looking to see this type of effect in photos posted on the forum but didn't come across anything that was this obvious.


For those who have seen the difference in uniformity on their unit, how does this compare? Better, worse, same, or really hard to tell?



I'd say that is quite a bit worse than my unit.

I would absolutely send this back.

I do think it is important to make certain the problem really is this bad though.

You need to use a 100% full white field to do this.

You can download a free test disc here on AVS (sorry, don't have the link handy but just search for AVS test disc and it will come right up) that has this pattern.

If when you display the full white pattern it still looks that bad, get rid of it.

I'm pretty lucky. I bought mine in April and it has perfect uniformity.

The fan does make a bit of a cricket sound and there is a bit of chromatic aberration which I can "mostly" get rid of with careful focus but other than the black level which I knew about before purchasing, I'm actually extremely happy with this projector and for such an inexpensive projector there doesn't seem to be a very high fail rate either which makes me even more confident in recommending it.

This definitely wouldn't be acceptable to me, though.

--J
post #6604 of 8546
I've used DVE Video Essentials, Spears & Munsil 2, and the AVS test pattern along with a combination of several different settings on the projector itself and my Oppo 103 and simply cannot get the contrast set right.

Has anyone else been able to set the contrast properly using these patterns.

I'm more of an audio/acoustics guy so bare with me here, but I "think" what this means is that this projector doesn't show blacker than black or whiter than white but if that's the case and because of that, I cannot figure out how to accurately set the brightness/contrast (although there are alternative test patterns for the brightness and I "think" I've set it properly) on this projector.

Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I asked a month or two ago but nobody responded... Does this projector accept deep color and/or does it do anything with it?

Last but not least, I'm trying to figure out which color space to use by looking at the test patterns on the Spears & Munsil volume 2 disc and no matter whether I set my Oppo 103 to output RGB, or 4:4:4 or 4:4:2 it doesn't seem to make a difference on that pattern.

Is anyone else using this with an Oppo and what color space are you using? How did you go about picking it?

Thanks,

--Jason
post #6605 of 8546
Hey guys,

Im having a problem with this PJ at the moment. It doesn't bother me all the time but when a brighter scene comes up it definitely shows up. Looks like a blob of sorts? Here is a shot where I was able to pause on a "white screen" and I have circled the blob spot I speak of.... any input/advice on what it is and what to do? (1229 lamp hours on the pj now).

Thanks!

post #6606 of 8546
^ Are you certain it isn't the screen. I only ask as if it is not I am lost for what it could be and it does very much so look like a screen defect.
post #6607 of 8546
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Originally Posted by FilmReverie View Post

^ Are you certain it isn't the screen. I only ask as if it is not I am lost for what it could be and it does very much so look like a screen defect.

No Im fairly confident its not the screen. Its never been there before in all those hours with that same screen and if I move the PJ slightly it movies with it.
Edited by Thunder_God_Thor - 10/30/13 at 10:40pm
post #6608 of 8546
Scored a Manufactured Refurb directly from BenQ for $675 bucks. Is there anything I should be concerned about when it arrives? Lamp time, firmware ver. Or anything else in particular? Any suggestions on a decent mount for a 9ft flat ceiling?

I'm so excited as this is my first projection!
post #6609 of 8546
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Originally Posted by JNasty View Post

Scored a Manufactured Refurb directly from BenQ for $675 bucks. Is there anything I should be concerned about when it arrives? Lamp time, firmware ver. Or anything else in particular? Any suggestions on a decent mount for a 9ft flat ceiling?

I'm so excited as this is my first projection!

Check to make sure that you have the latest FW, 1.07. I believe it should since it is coming from Benq directly but just check.

For a wall mount I bought a chief rpmau mount. Got it off ebay thanks to the help of a friendly member here on avs who pointed me to a link. The mount is normally $100+ but I got mine for $55 shipped. Just had to drill some holes to fit the projector.
post #6610 of 8546
Thanks for the response. I wasn't looking to spend that much on a mount. Plus I also have to a mount that will have to clear a dome light mount that extends about 4 1/2at it's lowest point from the ceiling.
post #6611 of 8546
You just need to pay extra attention to fan noise and uniform focus and uniform brightness issue on the referb. They may be possibly returned from someone with these issues.
post #6612 of 8546
Hi JNasty, the mount I used for mine (even though it is maybe outside your budget), is this one from Peerless: http://www.amazon.com/Projector-Ceiling-12-8IN-17-3IN-Adjustable-Extension/dp/B00155RH2I/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1383254806&sr=8-8&keywords=peerless+ceiling+mount

It worked great for me for mounting above my drop ceiling and down low enough to be even with the top of my screen. It can also be mounted in concrete and is VERY sturdy. The only complaint is that it takes a while to adjust the projector after mounting and a little bit of elbow grease to get it to finally lock in place (proprietary screws don't help that situation). Overall, now that it is up and in place, I am extremely happy with it and how it worked out. Best of luck in your own mounting situation!
post #6613 of 8546
For a mount you can go with the ones from monoprice. I had one but then upgraded to a Chief RPM mount. The chief mounts and the peerless mounts allow for you to modify them easier than the monoprice mounts.

This is a similar mount to what I got. Not sure if the mini will fit the w1070 but if it does you will just need to make holes to fit the projector: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chief-Mini-Elite-Projector-Mount-RSMA237-NEW-/121014649691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2d09035b
post #6614 of 8546
Sorry if this was discussed but I could only find limited info in one other thread. I noticed when calibrating my projector that changing hue/saturation at one point would not make any change on the color space and it appears I might have been clipping the colors. One person recommended changing the unit to PC video output under the HDMI setting.

My question is, to those that have calibrated their units did you leave the HDMI setting on auto or change it? I am worried about changing it to PC, calibrate the unit, and then it look off with my DirecTV box or bluray player (using a pc hdmi output to generate the test patterns).

Thanks for any advice.
post #6615 of 8546
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Originally Posted by jmalto View Post

Sorry if this was discussed but I could only find limited info in one other thread. I noticed when calibrating my projector that changing hue/saturation at one point would not make any change on the color space and it appears I might have been clipping the colors. One person recommended changing the unit to PC video output under the HDMI setting.

My question is, to those that have calibrated their units did you leave the HDMI setting on auto or change it? I am worried about changing it to PC, calibrate the unit, and then it look off with my DirecTV box or bluray player (using a pc hdmi output to generate the test patterns).

Thanks for any advice.

I left mine on auto. The nice thing about the Benq is that the picture is very good out of the box. With a few tweaks it can be made even better. It is amazing in this price class.
post #6616 of 8546
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I left mine on auto. The nice thing about the Benq is that the picture is very good out of the box. With a few tweaks it can be made even better. It is amazing in this price class.

Completely agree, this is by far one of the nicest projectors I've had for the price and I've had many projectors of all prices.

Anyone else have any input on the HDMI setting? I am going to try and do a calibration in the "PC" mode this weekend to see if it makes a difference in the color saturation/hue.
post #6617 of 8546
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I left mine on auto. The nice thing about the Benq is that the picture is very good out of the box. With a few tweaks it can be made even better. It is amazing in this price class.

Really? I found the w7000 out of the box to be rather dreafull and have heard similar things about other Benq products.
post #6618 of 8546
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Originally Posted by FilmReverie View Post

Really? I found the w7000 out of the box to be rather dreafull and have heard similar things about other Benq products.[/quote

Read the reviews most of the top reviewers have found that the color and settings were more accurate than many projectors costing two-three times the price.

The BenQ's skin tones are good and again come quite close to the reference. One example came at the 29:51 mark in "Star Trek," where the reddish face of Captain Kirk -- as well as the red Starfleet uniforms, green grass, and blue sky -- looked much more natural than those from the Epson. CNET

Along with a bright image, the W1070 delivers image quality that's just short of excellent. In my tests, the projector did swimmingly with most of the clips that we use to highlight problems. I saw a mild loss of shadow detail (details based on shading in dark areas) in one scene, but it was little enough that I wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know what the scene should look like. PC Mag.

I could go on and on with other reviews. That being said calibration will help and avoid issue that nearly all projectors have. I would suggest that to get the best picture out of the box use cinema mode, turn off brilliant color and use the smart eco lamp setting. I will also point out that one will not get blacks comparable to much more expensive projectors. The thing is that for the price there is noting better. I also own a JVC RS45 which I use for 2D. I use the BENQ 1070 for casual viewing, gaming, and especially 3D with no crosstalk.
post #6619 of 8546
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

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Originally Posted by FilmReverie View Post

Really? I found the w7000 out of the box to be rather dreafull and have heard similar things about other Benq products.[/quote

Read the reviews most of the top reviewers have found that the color and settings were more accurate than many projectors costing two-three times the price.

The BenQ's skin tones are good and again come quite close to the reference. One example came at the 29:51 mark in "Star Trek," where the reddish face of Captain Kirk -- as well as the red Starfleet uniforms, green grass, and blue sky -- looked much more natural than those from the Epson. CNET

Along with a bright image, the W1070 delivers image quality that's just short of excellent. In my tests, the projector did swimmingly with most of the clips that we use to highlight problems. I saw a mild loss of shadow detail (details based on shading in dark areas) in one scene, but it was little enough that I wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know what the scene should look like. PC Mag.

I could go on and on with other reviews. That being said calibration will help and avoid issue that nearly all projectors have. I would suggest that to get the best picture out of the box use cinema mode, turn off brilliant color and use the smart eco lamp setting. I will also point out that one will not get blacks comparable to much more expensive projectors. The thing is that for the price there is noting better. I also own a JVC RS45 which I use for 2D. I use the BENQ 1070 for casual viewing, gaming, and especially 3D with no crosstalk.

The reviews also didn't notice that the w7000 at first didn't do 1:1 pixel mapping instead it took the video downsampled to 720p then rescaled to 1080p. Yet reviews done with this issue still talked about how razer sharp it was. I'm not saying the w1070 is bad out of the box, just that I am surprised to hear it given that the w7000 isn't.
post #6620 of 8546
I just bought a refurb from BenQ (via Ebay) for $677. Happy to join the club!

1. Can someone point me to the best settings?

2. What are the best 3D glasses for this projector?
post #6621 of 8546
I have this anomaly too, in the lower left-hand corner. It is definitely not a screen issue, not that I actually have a screen, as I'm projecting onto a piece of blackout cloth. It showed up a couple of months back and most of the time it is a non-issue except that, as you say, it can be scene in really bright scenes. Plus, I know it's there, and I am concerned that something is wrong with the unit which should be fixed under warranty. I attempted to fill out a contact form on the Benq site a few weeks ago, but the form never went through for some reason. I have been dragging my feet about calling for support because I use the unit as my TV, and I can't stand the thought of not having it for a couple of weeks or whatever. After seeing your post, I realize I need to follow up on this. If you hear of a solution any time soon, I would appreciate hearing what it is.
Carl
post #6622 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

I just bought a refurb from BenQ (via Ebay) for $677. Happy to join the club!

1. Can someone point me to the best settings?

2. What are the best 3D glasses for this projector?

Welcome to the club. There were only 2 for that price on ebay. I got the other one. Mine hasn't arrived yet and I'm still preparing my room.
post #6623 of 8546
these are good glasses and a good setting
post #6624 of 8546
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Originally Posted by bighvy76 View Post

these are good glasses and a good setting

I agree, one of the best and the come with nice cases. Dimensional Optics often offers 20% off deals.
post #6625 of 8546
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Originally Posted by JNasty View Post

Welcome to the club. There were only 2 for that price on ebay. I got the other one. Mine hasn't arrived yet and I'm still preparing my room.

I received an under-warranty exchange unit and I found that there is a 5 degrees slant on projected content (including the internal test pattern) that persists on a table as well as on my ceiling mount (excludes the feet). Also there is part of the plastic chassis broken off and missing under the lamp compartment cover.

Based on this limited experience I suggest looking over the units closely.
post #6626 of 8546
Hi all, I have my first projector and screen and I'm curious about the expected image quality. I'm seeing a circular pattern in the image and wondering if that is normal?

Projector: BenQ W1070, Firmware 1.06
Screen: Elite Screen Acoustically Transparent 1080P2, 100"
AVR: Yamaha RX-V673 (all content goes through this)
Projector Distance from Screen: About 8.5'
Content: DVD, Bluray, HDTV (all do the same)

I only see this during bright scenes. I don't believe this to be the rainbow effect. I've tried all different calibration/lamp settings. I can't calibrate out of this (as far as I know).



Is this normal?

Thanks for your feedback

John
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post #6628 of 8546
It could be a light distribution issue or that the upper right corner of your image may be out of focus. When focusing the image, do the final tuning with your attention on that section of the screen. Using this technique, I'm able to achieve a 100% level of focus across the displayed image.

If you are using the W1070 with a PC, you can use the attached test patterns as tiled desktop patterns to assist with dialing it in.

mappingTestPatterns.zip 53k .zip file






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Originally Posted by marti179 View Post

Hi all, I have my first projector and screen and I'm curious about the expected image quality. I'm seeing a circular pattern in the image and wondering if that is normal?

Projector: BenQ W1070, Firmware 1.06
Screen: Elite Screen Acoustically Transparent 1080P2, 100"
AVR: Yamaha RX-V673 (all content goes through this)
Projector Distance from Screen: About 8.5'
Content: DVD, Bluray, HDTV (all do the same)

I only see this during bright scenes. I don't believe this to be the rainbow effect. I've tried all different calibration/lamp settings. I can't calibrate out of this (as far as I know).



Is this normal?

Thanks for your feedback

John
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post #6629 of 8546
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Originally Posted by meditator1 View Post

I have this anomaly too, in the lower left-hand corner. It is definitely not a screen issue, not that I actually have a screen, as I'm projecting onto a piece of blackout cloth. It showed up a couple of months back and most of the time it is a non-issue except that, as you say, it can be scene in really bright scenes. Plus, I know it's there, and I am concerned that something is wrong with the unit which should be fixed under warranty. I attempted to fill out a contact form on the Benq site a few weeks ago, but the form never went through for some reason. I have been dragging my feet about calling for support because I use the unit as my TV, and I can't stand the thought of not having it for a couple of weeks or whatever. After seeing your post, I realize I need to follow up on this. If you hear of a solution any time soon, I would appreciate hearing what it is.
Carl

We may be looking at a bad production of W1700's with optics that SHOULD have failed Quality Assurance at the manufacturer and at BenQ. When was your device manufactured?
post #6630 of 8546
Hello Marti179. I don't think your unit is defective. The circular pattern is probably caused by the small perforations necessary for an acoustically transparent screen. This has been mentioned earlier in the thread and was noticed with XD fabric screens and also on moleskin Spandex screens. If you turn down the brightness the effect will lessen. The brightness will settle down naturally by the time the bulb has 100 or more hours.
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