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post #691 of 8544
Anyone knows the lumens in smart eco mode?
post #692 of 8544
the Rep was talking about holidays and delays. he said that they will wait for the defective unit to come back, inspect and decide if the unit is defective and then they will ship another unit. if they decide that the unit is fine in their eyes, they will charge a 15% restocking fee. initially i did purchase a 30 day shipping insurance (cost 3% of the purchase price) in case product is defective. otherwise i was gonna have to pay for the return shipping too.
after i said that i want to get my replacement shipped right way, he advised that it can only be done if i pay upfront. after i paid for the product then he started pushing me to ship back the unit almost today (high priced product LOL). i said when will you be sending my new unit? he said in a day or two.
i had never purchased from them in the past. lets see how this goes? i have already sent back the defective unit via purolator ground.
i had purchased NCIX 3 years express exchanged with $120.00 when i purchased the unit. i wonder where does that express exchange fits in and what does that mean?
i have recorded the projector faulty noise on my iphone. funny thing is that every time i put record button on, the projector would go silent. LOL but, i did manage to capture some. not sure if that could be uploaded?
post #693 of 8544
Got my unit today. I had BenQ W7000, which I sold immediately because I was not impressed by it, specially with contrast given it size and price.

When I turned my W1070,I was very impressed. The first thing that came to my mind was: Finally I will not miss my Sony 55HX929 TV. colors, contrast and brightness were much higher than my expectations. The throw is short, It gives double the picture size of W7000 from same distance.

3D I think is equal to W7000, but motion is not as smooth. I think judder is worse than normal unfortunately. Contrast was impressive again.

3D glasses I tried:
- 3D CORP : best one, block red flash completely, which made skin tones and colors very neutral.
- Sainsonic : Red flash was easily visible in some scenes, and colors were not very natural.
- 3Active : Does not work as it does not support 144Hz.
- True Depth : they look exactly the same as 3Active, but come in black.
Edited by mishari84 - 12/18/12 at 10:13pm
post #694 of 8544
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3D I think is equal to W7000, but motion is not as smooth. I think judder is worse than normal unfortunately. Contrast was impressive again.

Is the motion and judder you refer to when using 3D only or in 2D as well?
post #695 of 8544
Does anyone have a clue when you will be able to pick this unit up in stores in the U.S? Here is one of the only US sites I can find that currently has the W1070 in stock (supposedly). It is for a good price though... $979 shipped after you add it to your cart.

http://www.audiogeneral.com/BenQ/widescreen.php?gclid=COjZn6O6orQCFUqoPAod1XAA_A
post #696 of 8544
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Originally Posted by FlatRocky View Post

H I had to pay for the replacement unit upfront and they said they will refund the unit once they received defective unit and inspect it.
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Originally Posted by Bacon13 View Post

That doesn't sound like very good customer service. Was this an option you chose to get a replacement on its way sooner or is this the way they normally handle exchanges?

This is typically normal if you want an advance replacement.
This assures them that you will send back the faulty unit.

Otherwise, you could send back the faulty one to repair and wait for it t be fixed.
post #697 of 8544
Let me get this straight. This is a DLP projector. So my DLP glasses aka DLP* Link 3D Optoma BG-ZD101 DLP Link 3D Glasses should work with my Panasonic Bluray player model 110. CORRECT ? ? I won't be using my pc at all. All this pc gaming is confusing me with my world of MY home theater experience. rolleyes.gif
post #698 of 8544
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Originally Posted by FifteenElbows View Post

Does anyone have a clue when you will be able to pick this unit up in stores in the U.S? Here is one of the only US sites I can find that currently has the W1070 in stock (supposedly). It is for a good price though... $979 shipped after you add it to your cart.
http://www.audiogeneral.com/BenQ/widescreen.php?gclid=COjZn6O6orQCFUqoPAod1XAA_A

That is a good price but judging by the site and only 3 reviews, I don't know if I would trust them. I'm waiting for it to show up on Amazon, hopefully by the end of the month.
post #699 of 8544
Projector looked interesting until I saw the lens on it. You would have to mount this mid room for it to produce a viable image sized based on viewing distance. That's a no go for me. I guess they cheaped on the optics to save a few bucks.

Looks like I'll be waiting to see what comes out in early 2013 from the dlp camp before buying anything.
post #700 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

Got my unit today. I had BenQ W7000, which I sold immediately because I was not impressed by it, specially with contrast given it size and price.
When I turned my W1070,I was very impressed. The first thing that came to my mind was: Finally I will not miss my Sony 55HX929 TV. colors, contrast and brightness were much higher than my expectations. The throw is short, It gives double the picture size of W7000 from same distance.
3D I think is equal to W7000, but motion is not as smooth. I think judder is worse than normal unfortunately. Contrast was impressive again.
3D glasses I tried:
- 3D CORP : best one, block red flash completely, which made skin tones and colors very neutral.
- Sainsonic : Red flash was easily visible in some scenes, and colors were not very natural.
- 3Active : Does not work as it does not support 144Hz.
I will try True Depth glasses later and try to do some calibrations.

Thanks for the first impressions, hopefully motion will be better with my Benq D3 glasses. How does the black levels compare to your old w7000? What about the brightness?
Edited by plasmaowner - 12/17/12 at 4:10pm
post #701 of 8544
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Originally Posted by wanab View Post

Let me get this straight. This is a DLP projector. So my DLP glasses aka DLP* Link 3D Optoma BG-ZD101 DLP Link 3D Glasses should work with my Panasonic Bluray player model 110. CORRECT ? ? I won't be using my pc at all. All this pc gaming is confusing me with my world of MY home theater experience. rolleyes.gif

Won't work for 1080p 24Hz which requires 144Hz glasses. Will be fine for 720p and 1080p / i at 50 or 60Hz.
post #702 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mart242 View Post

Won't work for 1080p 24Hz which requires 144Hz glasses. Will be fine for 720p and 1080p / i at 50 or 60Hz.

Meaning 1080p with 30hz per eye should work in 3d? hmmm, that could be the best setting for this PJ. Just crank up the 3d rendering settings and antialiasing to max out the image quality, and who cares if you only get 30fps per eye? that should be decent nonetheless.

"Projector looked interesting until I saw the lens on it. You would have to mount this mid room for it to produce a viable image sized based on viewing distance. That's a no go for me. I guess they cheaped on the optics to save a few bucks."

Yep. Cheap optics? probably, but who cares, the image quality is awesome for the price.

"- 3D CORP : best one, block red flash completely, which made skin tones and colors very neutral."

Doh, those were the ones I was originally gonna get before I realized they probably wouldn't work due to the 144hz thing.
post #703 of 8544

Several people reported that the "smart eco" mode would be laggy and create very visible pumping effects on fast bright/dark scene changes.....so what's up with that review claiming that black wasn't deep enough until he enabled this mode? Can anyone please confirm how that goes with the current 1.2 firmware?

 

Actually, I would really appreciate some replies if anyone could spare me a few moments please: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000/300_100#post_22652062

 

I will more than likely pull the trigger on this thing anyway(I'll also fully calibrate it and report back), just seeking excuses to chicken out I guess ^^

post #704 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

Got my unit today. I had BenQ W7000, which I sold immediately because I was not impressed by it, specially with contrast given it size and price.
When I turned my W1070,I was very impressed. The first thing that came to my mind was: Finally I will not miss my Sony 55HX929 TV. colors, contrast and brightness were much higher than my expectations. The throw is short, It gives double the picture size of W7000 from same distance.
3D I think is equal to W7000, but motion is not as smooth. I think judder is worse than normal unfortunately. Contrast was impressive again.
3D glasses I tried:
- 3D CORP : best one, block red flash completely, which made skin tones and colors very neutral.
- Sainsonic : Red flash was easily visible in some scenes, and colors were not very natural.
- 3Active : Does not work as it does not support 144Hz.
I will try True Depth glasses later and try to do some calibrations.

This is the first post i think i have read that complain motion smoothness of W1070. 24fps should be fine with this in 3D and 2D...
post #705 of 8544
The motion is really good on this, but I don't think there's any smoothing processing added to interpolate extra frames in 24p, so you'll have to fix the judder upstream in 2D if it bothers you. I prefer as little processing on the projector itself as possible, it gets antiquated too quickly anyway. (I mean stuff like 24p -> 60p artificial smoothing like they have on some TVs).

I ran so many video games on this, it's sick how smooth it is in 60hz.
post #706 of 8544
Just got this unit recently and trying 3D tonight for the first time. Can't get it to work with a desktop running total media theatre. First disk I put in was Sammy, a turtle's tale. I was running 720p 60 Hz as my desktop resolution. I went into 3D menu and it did switch to 3D after I manually selected frame packing but with my Optoma ZD101 glasses the image was crazy. Even lookin without the glasses the frames were not what a typical 3D signal would look like, the two images were widely spaced apart and one over the other, strange, so I switched into frame sequential and it did look better but not really 3D.

I thought all Blu-rays are frame packing so it should work with that or is frame packing only from stand alone players? The "Auto" selection on the 3D menu is grayed out also, I don't know why, even the manual says to put it in "Auto" but I can't.

I then ran Avatar, no matter what I do I can't get 3D. I can't even manually turn on 3D now, even after a restart of the projector. That menu item is skipped when I try to get to it.

So anyone have any suggestions? I think I should be ok running 720p 60Hz. BTW, is total media theater outputting a frame packed signal right from the disk at 24 Hz? From a desktop it must be 60Hz, so is the video card converting it to 720p 60Hz? BTW, the info page is always showing 1920x1080 on the projector even when my desktop is set to 720p, that seems wrong.
Edited by tyee - 12/17/12 at 11:11pm
post #707 of 8544
Anyone tried color and tint, black level setting? I tried everything but I can't access those three menus. Is there a secret way or something?
Also nothing happens when I press auto button.
Edited by JiMmY912 - 12/18/12 at 12:12am
post #708 of 8544
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Originally Posted by daWill View Post

Projector looked interesting until I saw the lens on it. You would have to mount this mid room for it to produce a viable image sized based on viewing distance. That's a no go for me. I guess they cheaped on the optics to save a few bucks.
Looks like I'll be waiting to see what comes out in early 2013 from the dlp camp before buying anything.

Viable size meaning large enough or small enough? It is almost in the range of short throw as it produces pretty much a 1:1 ratio, at least according to the BenQ calculator on their website. So 10' away would give a 120" image with no zoom. Maybe an owner could confirm this?


Also, does the zoom affect the image quality? Id like to have about a 100" screen with it sitting 10' away, and according to the calculator I would need to set the zoom to about 1.2x to achieve this. I would think if anything it would make the image a bit sharper...
post #709 of 8544
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Originally Posted by FifteenElbows View Post

Viable size meaning large enough or small enough? It is almost in the range of short throw as it produces pretty much a 1:1 ratio, at least according to the BenQ calculator on their website. So 10' away would give a 120" image with no zoom. Maybe an owner could confirm this?
Also, does the zoom affect the image quality? Id like to have about a 100" screen with it sitting 10' away, and according to the calculator I would need to set the zoom to about 1.2x to achieve this. I would think if anything it would make the image a bit sharper...

I just found the screen size to be way too large for the throw distance. I guess I just don't have any use for a short throw projector. At my throw distance of over 12.5ft I'm looking at a 120"+ screen and that is just too big for a 9.5ft viewing distance on my front row. I find my 106" screen to be perfect for my 9.5' and 14' rows. So I was just whining about what seems to be a decent cheap projector not having a lot of options when it comes to optical range/zoom. I wish it had a longer throw and higher zoom range...
post #710 of 8544
Anyone tried it on a 0.7 gain gray screen? I am going to be making a screen and all I can find locally is blackout cloth that is a light gray. Figure this might be the best for the 1070 due to the brightness?
post #711 of 8544
Tyee, the 3D support in Totalmedia Theatre sucks. I had issues with it on my old projector and on the W1070 it doesn't work at all. PowerDVD works although I had some configuration issues, and Windvd worked without any issues what-so-ever.
post #712 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Nayr2 View Post

Tyee, the 3D support in Totalmedia Theatre sucks. I had issues with it on my old projector and on the W1070 it doesn't work at all. PowerDVD works although I had some configuration issues, and Windvd worked without any issues what-so-ever.

I had problems with this as well. 3D from Bluray works perfectly, but I found when playing 3D content (from my Mac through Bino player) I couldn´t get it working so I found a work around: Go to Youtube and play 3D content - in the 3D settings on the BenQ set it on "Side by side" - go back to your player, and your now able to view 3D files from your PC/Mac. The 3D setting on the BenQ stays on 3D.

First 3D clip I found on Youtube btw, was awesome - Click here to watch
post #713 of 8544
For you gamers, as I suspected from my increase in kill/deaths in FPS, great input lag time, the best I have seen. This review gives it an average of 20ms

http://www.projectorreviews.com/game-projector-blog/review-benq-w1070.html
post #714 of 8544
Nayr2
Thanks for the info. I will try WinDVD. I am using the built-in HD4000 GPU so I hope that will work fine. Also, another question. Up until now I was using the Acer h5360 and I think I had this problem with it but it went away for some reason.

I'm using both HD outputs of the HD4000, HDMI goes to my pre-pro for audio decoding, and DVI goes directly to the BenQ W1070. When I play a disk with HD audio I get dropouts in audio and stutters in the video every few seconds. I believe this is because I do not have my other projector, Mits HC4000, which is connected to the pre-pro HDMI output turned on, it is off but power is plugged in. I think that the handshaking is trying to occur but obviously with the Mits off it won't occur. To solve this can I just remove the cable to the Mits, leaving no projector connected to the pre-pro output?? This is an older non 3D pre-pro, Onkyo PR-SC885 I think that's the part no.
post #715 of 8544
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Originally Posted by daWill View Post

I just found the screen size to be way too large for the throw distance. I guess I just don't have any use for a short throw projector. At my throw distance of over 12.5ft I'm looking at a 120"+ screen and that is just too big for a 9.5ft viewing distance on my front row. I find my 106" screen to be perfect for my 9.5' and 14' rows. So I was just whining about what seems to be a decent cheap projector not having a lot of options when it comes to optical range/zoom. I wish it had a longer throw and higher zoom range...

Zooming optics will always affect quality of your image no matter how good your optics are, so if you're looking for the best picture you can get then you should only be throwing 1:1
post #716 of 8544
Finally working with stereoscopic player by selecting "software pageflipping" method. No aspect ratio distortion either! I can definitely tell the 30 Hz per eye instead of the 60Hz per eye with the acer h5360 though. There is something still wrong, jitter in playback of the frames causing too much eye strain during movements.
Edited by tyee - 12/18/12 at 11:33pm
post #717 of 8544
- Calibrated mine today, picture improved dramatically. default colors are way off, too greenish. Calibration will make a great improvement in picture quality. This is the first projector I learn to calibrate, and it was worth it.
- Motion was good overall.
- Light leakage does not affect the picture, as it is directed away from the screen.
- Black level is noticeably better than W7000. W7000 was a home theatre projector, its brightness was too high for my room.
- 3D: I returned all the glasses, but I still recommend 3DTV CORP glasses, run on batteries and block red tint completely compared to the others I have tried. I may try BenQ glasses later.
Edited by mishari84 - 12/18/12 at 10:28pm
post #718 of 8544
mishari84
I'll have to look into that also.
Edited by tyee - 12/18/12 at 11:34pm
post #719 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

- Calibrated mine today, picture improved dramatically. default colors are way off, too greenish. Calibration will make a great improvement in picture quality. This is the first projector I learn to calibrate, and it was worth it.
- Motion was good overall.
- Light leakage does not affect the picture, as it is directed away from the screen.
- Black level is noticeably better than W7000. W7000 was a home theatre projector, its brightness was too high for my room.
- 3D: I returned all the glasses, but I still recommend 3DTV CORP glasses, run on batteries and block red tint completely compared to the others I have tried. I may try BenQ glasses later.
Thanks. One of the few useful comments here.
post #720 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

- Calibrated mine today, picture improved dramatically. default colors are way off, too greenish. Calibration will make a great improvement in picture quality. This is the first projector I learn to calibrate, and it was worth it.

Post all your settings and I will paypal you! I am in desperate need.
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