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post #901 of 4962
I see that '144Hz' comes by in this topic a few times. Does this little guy do Tripple Flash? Cannot imagine this because only ultra high end machines like the Sim2 3D-S support this real cinema technique........
post #902 of 4962
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post

I wouldn't put too much weight on those ansi contrast numbers. That can vary greatly from tester to tester. However I did own the Mitsubishi hc4000 briefly and it looked very nice. Yet the Benq is also a dc3 chip dlp so the contrast should be similar.
If i was going for 2d only i would say that the Mitsubishi is a safer bet. However, 3d is pretty awesome on dlp projectors so make sure you won't regret not having it later.

Thanks for the advice, I will think about it. smile.gif
post #903 of 4962
It is impossible to say for sure which one has better contrast unless someone objectively measures it VERY VERY carefully and A/B's to ensure what they measured matches what their eyes saw. I would bet that the Mits hc4000 has better on/off than the Benq by a bit, you also cannot trust on/off measurements though. Sometimes if it is measured by the same person, you can trust them a little (sometimes, not always).

Another indicator of contrast (although not scientific, it's just a TREND indicator), is that how many lumens at WHAT wattage each projector produces in ECO modes (although this matters more if comparing two models in the same brand). However, if the wattage of the two projectors are the same, and they both have DC3, it is probably unlikely a significantly brighter DLP projector at the same price-point is producing higher on/off or ANSI contrast (being the Benq, so Mits should probably win). This is because they can't get the light pollution out of the DLP mirrors and there is some direct relationship to how much light there is, and they have to add more expensive components to make it handle light pollution in the mirrors and lens (and they can't with PJ's at this price).

The Benq has DC 3 and so does the Mits, the Benq is a much brighter projector indicating they opened up the light path more (but it is probably higher wattage too, so maybe not that much more).

That said, so far there hasn't been a projector that can measure as high in On/Off as the Mits for its' price, and Benq doesn't have a great history of high on/off or ansi contrast in their lower-priced projectors, so if I were a betting man, bets are on the Mits.

Still with 2D only for the Mits, I'd buy the Benq instead.
Edited by coderguy - 1/1/13 at 7:17pm
post #904 of 4962
Will Playstation glasses works with this projector?
post #905 of 4962
I just purchased this projector and got a bunch of questions.

1. It's easy for me to notice the RBE since it's new to me. Will I adapt to it over time?

2.I entered the ISF mode and chose night. Is this really just meant for the actual pros to tinker with? All settings are blank...At first I was assuming this was a pre-calibrated setting meant for dedicated dark rooms? This is not a pre-calibrated mode right?

3. In the manual economic and smart eco are different. economic is 30% savings and eco smart is 70%? I originally thought economic was just setting the lamp to it's lowest setting at all times. I should leave it at eco smart and turn off brilliant colours for the easiest nicest image?

4. For movies 1080p and 2d, what's the best HZ to set the projector at? 24hz? 120hz? Does nvidia automatically have 24hz in the settings, or would I add a custom resolution like 23.967 for example...whats the exact number?

5. For the best blacks, I would want to keep the throw distance as far as possible and use zoom in as close...(not digital zoom)? Is there an actual nd2 filter that will work for this projector?

6.What's the best 3d glasses for this projector? What's the best bang for buck 3d glasses that will work with this(ebay)? So all 3d content must be with the PC and nvidia? Can't use 3d on ps3, or xbox? I would have to aqquire a 3d movie to watch 3d...can't just convert a 2d movie into 3d like the epson 3020?

7" If the resolution is 16:9 and the movie you are watching is super wide so you have those black bars on top and bottom....are there any projectors out there, where there is absolutely no light(as in ink black) on those black bars when your room is all black and your screen is matte white?
post #906 of 4962
I have W1070, and I am not very satisfied with 2D. For 3D, I can not have quality glasses like Optoma ZD201. That is why I am considering Mits HC4000.
post #907 of 4962
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

I have W1070, and I am not very satisfied with 2D. For 3D, I can not have quality glasses like Optoma ZD201. That is why I am considering Mits HC4000.

So an HC4000 is better than this?? I'm surprised because they're at similar price points but the 1070 is 2 years newer.
post #908 of 4962
You may disregard these reviews if you want but Kraine reviewed both Mitsubishi HC4000 and BenQ W1070. Here're his numbers:

Mitsubishi HC4000
Low lamp brilliant color off: 391.7 lumens
Brilliant color on low light: 474 lumens
High brilliant color lamp off: 457.7 lumens
Brilliant color on top lamp: 536.7 lumens
Black value at 00 IRE: 0.05 lux
Contrast: 2900:1

BenQ W1070
High contrast 2967:1 lamp black value 0.23
Contrast 4247:1 lamp low black value 0.11
2882:1 Contrast smart eco
High brightness 683 lux lamp 1662 lumens
Low brightness light 500 lux 1216 lumens
Brightness 678 lux smart eco fashion 1650 lumens


So coderguy's assumption that Mits' black level is lower should be true. The contrast is comparable.
post #909 of 4962
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Originally Posted by aftcomet View Post

So an HC4000 is better than this?? I'm surprised because they're at similar price points but the 1070 is 2 years newer.

Just because its newer doesn't mean better. A projector 5 years ago can still have a better lens and build and be the same price as a newer projector with cheaper parts and a plastic lens.
post #910 of 4962
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

I have W1070, and I am not very satisfied with 2D. For 3D, I can not have quality glasses like Optoma ZD201. That is why I am considering Mits HC4000.

Did you true the new Eco mode and turn off Brilliant Color. This was suggested in one of the removes to improve picture quality and contrast.
post #911 of 4962
Anyone knows when this will be available in the US?
post #912 of 4962
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Anyone knows when this will be available in the US?

It should be available any day now. It will be shown at CES next week.
post #913 of 4962
Just remember also that dlp chip tech is getting very old. Dc3 has been around forever. The only new part is that it is a cheap 1080p dc3 chip on a cheap 3d projector.
post #914 of 4962
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post

Just remember also that dlp chip tech is getting very old. Dc3 has been around forever. The only new part is that it is a cheap 1080p dc3 chip on a cheap 3d projector.


I am not sure I under the point. No one is claiming this is a 'break through' projector.

It seems attractive for the features and price.
post #915 of 4962
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Originally Posted by safe bobo View Post

I just purchased this projector and got a bunch of questions.
4. For movies 1080p and 2d, what's the best HZ to set the projector at? 24hz? 120hz? Does nvidia automatically have 24hz in the settings, or would I add a custom resolution like 23.967 for example...whats the exact number?
Sounds like you're using an HTPC. 1080p60Hz (standard timing) would be the best for 2D.
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6.What's the best 3d glasses for this projector? What's the best bang for buck 3d glasses that will work with this(ebay)? So all 3d content must be with the PC and nvidia? Can't use 3d on ps3, or xbox? I would have to aqquire a 3d movie to watch 3d...can't just convert a 2d movie into 3d like the epson 3020?
3D on Xbox is confirmed working. For glasses that work with this Benq, check out this thread.
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7" If the resolution is 16:9 and the movie you are watching is super wide so you have those black bars on top and bottom....are there any projectors out there, where there is absolutely no light(as in ink black) on those black bars when your room is all black and your screen is matte white?
You would need an anamorphic lens to "morph" the projector output to either expand horizontally or squeeze vertically. Very complicated setup. The easiest is to do screen masking. Example: Without Masking. With Masking
post #916 of 4962
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I am not sure I under the point. No one is claiming this is a 'break through' projector.
It seems attractive for the features and price.

Yes you did misunderstand my post. I was just referring to how older dlp pj's can look better than this one because dlp tech had made no advancements in a longtime. Yes this pj is a great deal being the lowest priced 1080p 3d dc3 dlp pj around.
post #917 of 4962
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

Sounds like you're using an HTPC. 1080p60Hz (standard timing) would be the best for 2D.
3D on Xbox is confirmed working. For glasses that work with this Benq, check out this thread.
You would need an anamorphic lens to "morph" the projector output to either expand horizontally or squeeze vertically. Very complicated setup. The easiest is to do screen masking. Example: Without Masking. With Masking

How did you get the movie to show on the bottom of the screen like that?
post #918 of 4962
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Originally Posted by johnsmith808 View Post

Yes you did misunderstand my post. I was just referring to how older dlp pj's can look better than this one because dlp tech had made no advancements in a longtime. Yes this pj is a great deal being the lowest priced 1080p 3d dc3 dlp pj around.

But isn't DLP supposed to be better than 3LCD?
post #919 of 4962
Looks like it is finally available in the US. I would expect more places to add it in the next few days. I thought it may become available today or tomorrow because the Canadian deals seem like they all end today. You can still get it at NCIX from Canada for $850US though today only. It doesn't look like it will be as cheap here in the US, at least not at first.

Visual Apex $1099
http://www.visualapex.com/BenQ/Projector-Specifications.asp?For-The=W1070

New Egg $1299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014321&Tpk=BenQ%20W1070
post #920 of 4962
post #921 of 4962
Wow....I hope those prices come down pretty soon.

$1200-$1300, I think there are several better/proven choices around.
post #922 of 4962
Making history. I think this is the first time EVER anything has been cheaper in Canada than the US. (Except maybe beaver skin hats but that was back in the 1800's.)
post #923 of 4962
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Wow....I hope those prices come down pretty soon.
$1200-$1300, I think there are several better/proven choices around.

Like what?
post #924 of 4962
Yeah its a little dissapointing. Its MSRP is $999 and its street price is higher. Mabey it will come down quickly when the bigger places like Amazon stock it.
post #925 of 4962
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Originally Posted by Greg Flowers View Post

Yeah its a little dissapointing. Its MSRP is $999 and its street price is higher. Mabey it will come down quickly when the bigger places like Amazon stock it.

I thought it was $1099.
post #926 of 4962
It is also on benq.us shop now, $ 1,099 but msrp 1,399 according to the benq shop. So I am not sure if 999 was ever the official msrp in the US.
I bought it on Visualapex a few weeks ago. It was supposed to ship on December 28th. Just called them and it's still on backorder even though visualapex changed the status on their website from eta end of December to available.
post #927 of 4962
How would it compare to an Epson 3020?
post #928 of 4962
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Originally Posted by aftcomet View Post

Like what?


HD3300, and some 2D oldies like the 8350 or HC4000.
post #929 of 4962
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Originally Posted by Greg Flowers View Post

Looks like it is finally available in the US. I would expect more places to add it in the next few days. I thought it may become available today or tomorrow because the Canadian deals seem like they all end today. You can still get it at NCIX from Canada for $850US though today only. It doesn't look like it will be as cheap here in the US, at least not at first.
Visual Apex $1099
http://www.visualapex.com/BenQ/Projector-Specifications.asp?For-The=W1070
New Egg $1299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014321&Tpk=BenQ%20W1070


Newegg MSRP is $1699 btw...too funny.
post #930 of 4962
$1699 are they crazy?

Edit: Oh I see list price of $1300
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