First DIY project for a guy looking to upgrade - multiple sealed 18s? - Page 9

No worries and obviously I agree, heh. As of now with the Crown, I'll for sure be running in 2 ohm stereo but who knows what my amp future holds, especially when I build more cabs.

So here is the problem I see with running "only" one XLS5000. We have the following options: 2500/channel in 2 ohm stereo, 1800/channel in 4 ohm stereo, 3700 at 8 ohm bridged, or 5000 watts at 4 ohm bridged. If we have (4) cabinets either 2 ohm or 8 ohm total per cab, I'm not seeing a way to get a total 2 ohm load per channel or 4 ohm bridged. Sure, we could run them in 4 ohm stereo, but now we're down to 450/driver. Fail. Please do correct me if I'm missing something here:

2 ohms per cab X 2 in series = 4 ohm total per channel (8 ohms in parallel produces same result)
8 ohms per cab x 4 bridged = 8 or 2 ohms total

The second issue is that these amps are no longer available for 599 from unique squared. I picked mine up for 533 shipped back in January with a coupon and I still kick myself for not buying a second! The cheapest I've seen lately are in the 800 range - in this range I'd go right for the CV5000 which appears to be very similar. If anyone happens to see another XLS at a reasonable price PLEASE let me know as I've been looking anyway.

It's a shame the Inuke6000 is not 2 ohm stereo stable or bridgeable. The LG clone FP14K would be perfect, but I'm skeeerrrredd of DOA. Any other viable options out there?

Edit - Thinking about this. 2 (4 ohm) drivers in each cab in series = 8 ohms. 2 cabs @ 8 ohms each in parallel = 4 ohms? I'm probably having an idiot moment.

Even if 2 ohms per channel, going from 625 watts to 1250 is another +3db. In our world that is a big deal.

Have you seen at 5000s around that price, selling?
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/9/12 at 12:35pm

Based on my history with the Captivators, yes, I will wind up using that 3db at times. My room is quite bass hungry and my current setup uses every bit of those 2500 watts for each sub. If you're standing back at the bar area cranking tunes (30-35 feet from the subs), the bass quickly diminishes unfortunately. I think the biggest benefit to running 2 amps is that I'd be spreading the power demands over 2 20A circuits instead of just 1. I've tripped my 20A breaker on several occasions with just the 1 amp on the line. I also think the (4) cabs will work out well since I can place them in the back of the room and distribute the bass more equally then just having the 2 subs up front like I do now.


This part is TBD. They're rated at 900 RMS and Josh seems to think they will/have take every bit of 1400 watts in ~4 cubes. Time will tell though, the VC's may be running a bit hot at those temps.

That's also a big plus as well!

Thanks Josh - I was second guessing myself. So 2 Crowns or 1 LG clone (or similar) it is!


Cut the inside and outside baffles cut! Dry fit enclosure minus outside baffles - haven't cut the inside of the brace panels yet, but it's shown in some of these to make sure the edges fit:

Got a nice EARLY surprise an hour or so ago. I ordered these on Thursday and got a Saturday delivery?? Awesome service, PE!

I'm about out of time to work on these today, but I'll be cutting out the terminal panel hole tomorrow am. May even make it back over to Home Depot with any luck to pick up the panels for the second box.

Test fit my inner and outer baffles and fits great! Not too bad for my first try I guess, heh.

Yeah I'm super happy with the delivery timeframe. The box exterior dimenions are 23w x 25h x 28 depth. Internal net volume is right around 7 cubes. Can't wait until tomorrow so I can do my terminal cutout and start getting some gluing done.

Can't wait to see the full review on data bass. I'm excited to get these cabinets together and hear them for myself! They sound very promising (at least on paper) so we'll see how they do in my room in hopefully another week or so.

Yo Austin! Good to hear from you man, thought you were on a long vacation or something. I guess that was accurate since you were on a vacation from AVS, LOL! My wife feels the same way, but it's real hard to cut back on the lurking/posting, heh.

I actually haven't bought any feet yet, those look super nice! Let me know whatever postage winds up being and I'll throw some paypal your way.

Nice man, that is much appreciated! We should try to get together again sometime soon and do some testing with our creations.

Thanks Mark. Good info on the FedEx home delivery. Easily worth the 4.95 premium.

First box is settling in now. Glued a d clamped. Man that PL premium is messy!

Flat pack #2 is alive and well. Whew I'm beat!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had I not had other household crap to deal with they both would probably be glued and waiting to dry. Oh well, I'll finish the first enclosure and start glue/clamping the second tonight.


Heh, no worries man.

Re: Quad ultras, SI drivers, and the daytons - Sounds like a good time man. The question is: When will you be ready?? I'm starting to warm up to the idea of these clone amps. It would still suck to drop 800+ on a amp to have to worry about it not working properly on receipt. Maybe I will suck it up, order 2 of them and hope one of them works? I started looking around on ebay at the real LG's and even with the demo models I'm still looking at 4k+.

Re: Baffes - I actually don't think I mentioned in the thread already. I'm doing the basic inner baffle surface mount / outer baffle recess so very similar to yours. 3/4 recess on the driver so I guess I should space the grill out some, huh? Good thinking man, glad you brought that up. I did buy some magnets for the grills and marked the locations on the outer baffes as well. I'll probably drill them in the next few nights as well and start thinking about how I want to frame the grills. Luckily I still have a ton of speaker cloth left from my room treatment project.


Next topics for discussion: Polyfill/stuffing and primer/paint. What are you guys using?
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/12/12 at 5:22am

Popa - Would you be down for a mini-GTG over sometime thanksgiving or Christmas weeks? We could even do 2 LMS, 2 dual opposed daytons, and 2 empires? Maybe grab a couple submersives from ironmike as well? Battle of the sealed shootout.

Looking forward to the Mammoth makeover too.