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post #301 of 1005
getting hard to resist buying 2 of these and just waiting to see if EricH is gonna have a dual opp flatpack

actually, Andrew you wanna make me a box? biggrin.gif
post #302 of 1005
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

getting hard to resist buying 2 of these and just waiting to see if EricH is gonna have a dual opp flatpack
actually, Andrew you wanna make me a box? biggrin.gif

Dude, come on down! 60.00 in lumber and it's a done deal. You will have nearly a half sheet left over too. biggrin.gif I will try to remember and post the cutlist info for anyone who is interested. Home Depot or Lowes can make the cuts for you as well.
post #303 of 1005
ill prob take you up on that offer,

what are the outer dimensions of the box?
post #304 of 1005
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

ill prob take you up on that offer,
what are the outer dimensions of the box?

My box is 23wide x 25height x 28 deep for a total of around ~7 cubes net. The dimensions can be easily modified if needed. I'd be happy to help you design a box, but otherwise here is my cutlist - this includes two panels for bracing and of course a double baffle on the front and back:

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Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/16/12 at 1:31pm
post #305 of 1005
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Both boxes prepped for paint! First box has been primed also. I ordered a gallon of Duratex which hopefully should be here mid week? After the primer dries, I'm planning on dropping on some woofage and testing these bad boys out! The final prep was a lot of work, but I'm super happy with the way they are turning out. Corners are rounded and super smooth!

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post #306 of 1005
Lookin good. I can't wait to see the results as I'm looking at a similar build coming up.

BTW, you suck. White C5 Z06 is one of my favorite combos.
post #307 of 1005
Gorilla,

I'm too engrossed in my own build, don't know how I missed this thread smile.gif Looking awesome! Time for bed, but I will be rereading this thread from page 1 when I get a chance.
post #308 of 1005
Based upon the write up Josh did on the drivers those have the potential to be amazing subwoofers. When is the next GTG? tongue.gif
post #309 of 1005
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Originally Posted by bass addict View Post

Lookin good. I can't wait to see the results as I'm looking at a similar build coming up.
BTW, you suck. White C5 Z06 is one of my favorite combos.

Thanks, I'm excited to listen as well. I actually sold the C5 a while back but man it was a fun ride. Built motor, built trans, clutch, CCWs, A&A Blower kit, cam, etc. It was a worthwhile sell though - I'm in a 2010 White diamond CTS-V now. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Fade to Black View Post

Gorilla,
I'm too engrossed in my own build, don't know how I missed this thread smile.gif Looking awesome! Time for bed, but I will be rereading this thread from page 1 when I get a chance.

Thanks man, of course I'll be following yours as well. cool.gif

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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Based upon the write up Josh did on the drivers those have the potential to be amazing subwoofers. When is the next GTG? tongue.gif

Agreed, on paper they seem really sweet - we'll see how they sound. Did you get my last round of PMs? Looking at December 15th as a possible mini-gathering. biggrin.gif


OK - Both boxes two coats primed now. Also cut and soldered leads for drivers. Tomorrow AM going to try the drivers in the cabs and give them a listen once the primer is all dry.

Twins!
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Obligatory beer after near box completion:
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Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/17/12 at 4:10pm
post #310 of 1005
December 15th you say

post #311 of 1005
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Thanks, I'm excited to listen as well. I actually sold the C5 a while back but man it was a fun ride. Built motor, built trans, clutch, CCWs, A&A Blower kit, cam, etc. It was a worthwhile sell though - I'm in a 2010 White diamond CTS-V now.

I love the CTS-V's. Deceptively quick. Gave my built blown Mustang a run for a bit. Did you list your Vette on Corvetteforum? I was looking at a couple built z06's and yours looks familiar.
post #312 of 1005
"I love the CTS-V's. Deceptively quick."

they would be much more fun to drive if they weren't lugging around 3900 lbs of ass. :-) that said, at least one made it around the northern loop in under 8 minutes and that is not too shabby.
Edited by LTD02 - 11/17/12 at 7:44pm
post #313 of 1005
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Did you get my last round of PMs? Looking at December 15th as a possible mini-gathering.

I did indeed, but it appears as though you may not have gotten my reply...

The holidays are a bit tight for me, time wise, so doing anything on the weekends for the rest of the year would be very tough. I'd love to see your new subs, but it will have to wait until next year I'm afraid. frown.gif
post #314 of 1005
Awww snap.
post #315 of 1005
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December 15th you say

Yes sir, that's the first date we threw out there. Shoot me a PM or give me a call and let's line it up. smile.gif
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I love the CTS-V's. Deceptively quick. Gave my built blown Mustang a run for a bit. Did you list your Vette on Corvetteforum? I was looking at a couple built z06's and yours looks familiar.

Nah, I actually never even listed it for sale formally, haha. Got an offer I couldn't refuse. smile.gif I'm very familiar with LSX cars and the C5s especially. Shoot me a PM to chat sometime.cool.gif
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Originally Posted by LTD02 View Post

"I love the CTS-V's. Deceptively quick."
they would be much more fun to drive if they weren't lugging around 3900 lbs of ass. :-) that said, at least one made it around the northern loop in under 8 minutes and that is not too shabby.

Have you driven one yet? The handling of the car is in no way indicative of it's weight. It would run circles around my blown 3100# fixed roof vette at the track. This thing is for real.
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I did indeed, but it appears as though you may not have gotten my reply...
The holidays are a bit tight for me, time wise, so doing anything on the weekends for the rest of the year would be very tough. I'd love to see your new subs, but it will have to wait until next year I'm afraid. frown.gif

Jim - I'm off the last week of December so if any of those days work for you, let me know and take a ride down to hang out!
post #316 of 1005
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Awww snap.

I just sent this guy a text. Guys, this quad setup is FOR REAL. I'm blown away by this setup. My projector has been knocked out of lens shift 4 times in the first 10 minutes listening, LOL.

Massive output, especially in midrange? Check.

Extension? I'll let my sweep speak for itself. No HPF, No EQ, and no smoothing. It seems like my Crown does have a HPF built in at 7hz.

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More impressions to come soon, right now I'm listening! biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
post #317 of 1005
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Some pics during assembly:

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Next to the Caps:
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Set up - Can't wait to paint these guys and make the grills:
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post #318 of 1005
REALLY nice work.

post #319 of 1005
That is awesome. This makes me even more antsy to get started on my quad setup. Can't wait for listening impressions.
post #320 of 1005
SWEET!

Great freaking job man!!!
post #321 of 1005
Are you sure you haven't done this before? Looks great even before paint.

Would you say these have more output than the 2 Caps and 3 Submersives did?
post #322 of 1005
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Guys, this quad setup is FOR REAL. I'm blown away by this setup. My projector has been knocked out of lens shift 4 times in the first 10 minutes listening, LOL.

Massive output, especially in midrange? Check.

Extension? I'll let my sweep speak for itself. No HPF, No EQ, and no smoothing. It seems like my Crown does have a HPF built in at 7hz.

daytonsnoeq.jpg

Are you kidding me? That's no EQ or smoothing using drivers that aren't even broken in yet?? eek.gif That's incredible. It can only get better from here...

BTW, did I see that you aren't using any damping material?
post #323 of 1005
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Are you kidding me? That's no EQ or smoothing using drivers that aren't even broken in yet?? eek.gif That's incredible. It can only get better from here...

Tell me about it. I'd kill to have that kind of in room response pre eq.
post #324 of 1005
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Originally Posted by LTD02 View Post

REALLY nice work.

Thank you, really appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by bass addict View Post

That is awesome. This makes me even more antsy to get started on my quad setup. Can't wait for listening impressions.

You're going to love your setup when it's done, I can assure you that. smile.gif
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SWEET!
Great freaking job man!!!

Thanks Edogg! Hard work definitely has paid off in this case. cool.gif
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Are you sure you haven't done this before? Looks great even before paint.
Would you say these have more output than the 2 Caps and 3 Submersives did?

Thanks Carp. As for the comparison to the Caps/Submersives it's tough to make a broad statement like that since I haven't done an A/B comparison and we all know audio memory is not all that great beyond a few minutes, heh. I will say that I really really really doubt that one can get any better for anywhere near this cost. The midrange is incredible and brutally tight and clean. As a fellow music (and metal) lover I would think you would really like these as well. I will share more comments below.
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Are you kidding me? That's no EQ or smoothing using drivers that aren't even broken in yet?? eek.gif That's incredible. It can only get better from here...
BTW, did I see that you aren't using any damping material?

Jim - Funny you should mention that. I just got back from walmart picking up my polyfill. I was waiting until the cabs were painted to stuff them. I'm incredibly impressed with this setup so far. You've GOT to come down here for a listen soon.
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/18/12 at 5:18pm
post #325 of 1005
i think the better question is how do they sound vs your caps? I know you are powering them with your XLS5k, how much power do you have going into each one?
post #326 of 1005
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OK - I got to spend a little over an hour listening to some of my normal demo material. In short, these things ROCK. The midrange is incredibly powerful and seemingly limitless and they have awesome response all around. I got a chance to run Audyssey and noticed it flatted them out a bit so I bumped the levels up a few db to compensate. I haven't re-ran the omnimic yet or tweaked the minidsp at all but honestly it's likely not even necessary. I was fully planning on ordering another 4 of these guys but I'm beginning to question the need for that much more? If you know me you know that says a LOT! They seem to take everything the Crown has without a peep of trouble.

I started with some of my normal demo music clips - Dave Matthews, Fleetwood Mac, and the Rock and Roll Hall of fame blu ray disc. The kick drums and bass guitar riffs came alive like I've never heard before. I had the volume up to +12 at times running 6-8db hot and they just kept going without a hint of trouble. I have yet to find any negatives in this area yet.

I moved on to the Scuba steve demo disc. I ran some scenes from book of eli, FOTP, Hulk, and of course, BHD Irene. The famous 'blades' scene in BHD was really cool to experience at stupid levels. I managed to trip a breaker during this one with the volume over reference, heh. Again, gobs and gobs of super clean output with no bad noises at stupid high levels which were well over reference at times. During the Book of eli shootout scene I dislodged a bass trap, LOL. The projector lens shift got knocked out of adjustment probably a half dozen times - I need to figure this out now heh. I tried the THX clip and this was the only time I heard the drivers under a bit of stress.

I figured I HAD to try a sine save sweep - 10hz to 100hz. The 10hz tone immediately got my attention. The room began to pressurize and shelves back at the bar were shaking violently. AWESOME. The fun continued through the rest of the range. To my ear most of the frequencies seemed to be level which makes sense given the omnimic sweep I ran.

I want to get some of you guys over here ASAP to listen - I'd love to get some other impressions and see if some of you guys like them as much as I do. If anyone is close, I'll be home most of this week and off for work so give me a holler if you're close and want to stop by. I'm really stoked to get them painted, grills done, stuffed with polyfill, and of course, broken in. biggrin.gif
Edited by Gorilla83 - 11/18/12 at 5:14pm
post #327 of 1005
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

i think the better question is how do they sound vs your caps? I know you are powering them with your XLS5k, how much power do you have going into each one?

I'm running them on my Crown in the same configuration as the Caps - 2 ohm stereo. Each cab is getting 2500 watts in this setup, so 1250 to each driver. They seem to take it all without an issue.

I have hundreds of hours listening to the caps over the last year. Since I've only listened to these guys for a little over an hour so far, I'm not going to make an definite statements just yet. But I will tell you that the Daytons have the punishing output like the Caps, but also have stupid low extension. Sound quality on both subs is outstanding. Midrange on the Daytons is for sure stronger than the Captivators. 20hz / port tune area on the Caps might have the edge in that region though.
post #328 of 1005
Very nice finish there, Gorilla. Happy that these are making you happy. smile.gif
post #329 of 1005
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Jim - Funny you should mention that. I just got back from walmart picking up my polyfill. I was waiting until the cabs were painted to stuff them. I'm incredibly impressed with this setup so far. You've GOT to come down here for a listen soon.

Love to. We'll have to figure out a good time. We need to get a bunch of guys down there, if your wife is OK with it of course. Should I bring more wine? wink.gif
post #330 of 1005
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During the Book of eli shootout scene I dislodged a bass trap, LOL.

See, I told you; velcro wasn't going to cut it, you need lag bolts. biggrin.gif
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