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post #31 of 119
12/8/12 at 7:02pm
Glad to help!!
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post #32 of 119
12/9/12 at 8:26am
Whats the difference between the 530 and the 550?
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post #33 of 119
12/9/12 at 12:09pm
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I bought it at BB on Black Friday. Took down my 2007 Panny 77U 50 inch plasma and hung this on the wall. I have a very bright room. Two story open with 4 large windows. This plasma does remarkably well for a screen with no anti-glare. We tried Underworld yesterday and had to stop. Too much glare for a dark movie. Daytime - normal type viewing is fine. Darker movies at night with lights low is a must. IMO plasma do fine in big rooms for most movies or shows. Thanks for the settings OptimusPrime!


Got it thanks. Were you trying to watch underworld at night or during the day?

Also how is the motion blur? Specially anyone that watches a lot of football?

Xbox 360 performance?

Thanks for all the info for whoever has it.
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post #34 of 119
12/9/12 at 5:21pm
We tried 'Underworld' in the daytime. This plasma shines at night. Compared to a 5 year old plasma, this tv seems like it was calibrated by a professional with OpimusPrime's settings. Glare is evident during the day with any dark scene. Football games are excellent in day, no issues there. I have the absolute worst room too. I really wish this had an anti-glare coating. But, considering picture quality and color acuracy it's a worthy trade-off for the price paid. We don't do games. Motion is....fine. It's a plasma. TV speakers are horrible....awefull. I have a Marantz with Klipsch reference. So sound isn't a problem with it going. I did the break-in DVD for about 100 hours, not IR noticed.
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post #35 of 119
12/9/12 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by timatraw View Post

Whats the difference between the 530 and the 550?
530 is no 3D and no internet/smart hub.
550 is a 3D model that is internet connected and has smarthub "apps."
There may be a few other specs that are different, but those are the basic differences.
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post #36 of 119
12/9/12 at 7:27pm
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Got it thanks. Were you trying to watch underworld at night or during the day?
Also how is the motion blur? Specially anyone that watches a lot of football?
Xbox 360 performance?
Thanks for all the info for whoever has it.

Xbox 360 performance is good. It does have a "game mode," which I do not use.
Instead, I use movie mode with my calibation settings. Everything looks great.

Motion blur for tv sports does not seem to be an issue - everything looks smooth.
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post #37 of 119
12/10/12 at 8:41am
Thanks for the info everyone. I recently got a Samsung 55" EH6001 over the weekend and am just not that impressed with the PQ even after calibration. We are coming from a 42in Samsung plasma thats abouut 3-4 years old and I'm thinking I might just be used to the PQ of a plasma vs LED.

I'm about to pull the trigger and return that for this, only thing I'm concerned with is the glare issue with dark scenes.

Does anyone have any issues with "buzzing" from the unit? I was reading the 550 thread and it seems like a lot of people complaining about that..

Also, can anyone confirm this does in fact come with a swivel base. Surprisingly I didn't realize how important that was to me until I didn't have it.
Edited by dperls - 12/10/12 at 9:01am
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post #38 of 119
12/10/12 at 10:41am
Thread Starter 
Buzzing has not been a problem with mine and can only hear a faint buzz if i put my ear right up to the back of the tv. The base DOES NOT swivel.
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post #39 of 119
12/10/12 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by jeep05 View Post

Buzzing has not been a problem with mine and can only hear a faint buzz if i put my ear right up to the back of the tv. The base DOES NOT swivel.

Ugh, that's very annoying. Best Buy and Amazon both show that it swivels.
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post #40 of 119
12/10/12 at 12:16pm
Thread Starter 
There has been discussion in other threads about the swivel base being advertised on certain sites. Can't say that i have seen anyone say that it did in fact swivel however. i know mine doesn't but it could have been added at a later manufacturing date or exclusively for Best Buy & Amazon, don't know.
Edited by jeep05 - 12/10/12 at 12:22pm
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post #41 of 119
12/10/12 at 3:01pm
Regarding the swivel - the stand that mine shipped with does not.
But - I kept the stand base for my B550 I had before "the incident" took it's life. To my surprise, the B550's stand base fits the E530 perfectly, allowing it to swivel.

For me it doesn't matter...my TV is wall mounted. smile.gif
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post #42 of 119
12/10/12 at 5:23pm
I have mine wall mounted. Absolutely no buzz. Not sure how there is no buzz on a 60 inch slab of glass, but it is silent. I was not impressed with the stand. I wouldn't trust it. This tv does very good during the day with daytime programming. Wail until night for those darker movies and you will not regret this plasma.
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post #43 of 119
12/18/12 at 7:36am
hello all.. I have not been on the forums in some time. So obvioulsy im posting in this thread because i purchased i new TV. I have always been a plasma guy, so after alot of research i opted for this PN60E530A3FXZA. For the Price and Picture its hard to beat. I was very close to purchasing the Panny St50, but was skeptical because of screen burn in issues.

Some of the negatives of this sammy are the stand is absolutley to weak for this size screen(very wobbly) and the faint buzzing. Other than that im very impressed. The picture is better than any LED ive seen.

Heres my main question:
do i need to do anything to break in this TV? ive basically just plugged it up and been watching it, as i normally would. And ive played with the settings a little.
Also the suggested setting Optimus posted in first page, why is the Sharpness set at 0.? i tried that and everything looks blurry.. i have mine at 100
and why wouldnt you want the black level on? it makes the blacks much darker.
Also warm1 looks better to my liking.

Are those settings that were suggested on the Standard or Dynamic mode?

for me even with the settings he suggested in standard mode.

the DYNAMIC still looks the best(brighter,more color,darker blacks, more pop)
have you guys had the same results? dynamic best picture?

finally, i see there is a firmware upgrade for the 550 model, which is downloaded with wi-fi.
Our panels dont have Wi-Fi, so can we not ever update it?

thanks

sorry for all the question, ive been out of the game a while.
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post #44 of 119
12/18/12 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

hello all.. I have not been on the forums in some time. So obvioulsy im posting in this thread because i purchased i new TV. I have always been a plasma guy, so after alot of research i opted for this PN60E530A3FXZA. For the Price and Picture its hard to beat. I was very close to purchasing the Panny St50, but was skeptical because of screen burn in issues.
Some of the negatives of this sammy are the stand is absolutley to weak for this size screen(very wobbly) and the faint buzzing. Other than that im very impressed. The picture is better than any LED ive seen.
Heres my main question:
do i need to do anything to break in this TV? ive basically just plugged it up and been watching it, as i normally would. And ive played with the settings a little.
Also the suggested setting Optimus posted in first page, why is the Sharpness set at 0.? i tried that and everything looks blurry.. i have mine at 100
and why wouldnt you want the black level on? it makes the blacks much darker.
Also warm1 looks better to my liking.
Are those settings that were suggested on the Standard or Dynamic mode?
for me even with the settings he suggested in standard mode.
the DYNAMIC still looks the best(brighter,more color,darker blacks, more pop)
have you guys had the same results? dynamic best picture?
finally, i see there is a firmware upgrade for the 550 model, which is downloaded with wi-fi.
Our panels dont have Wi-Fi, so can we not ever update it?
thanks
sorry for all the question, ive been out of the game a while.

With today's modern HD sources the Sharpness setting really has no effect, thus the recommendation for it to be at zero. Optimus came up with those settings using a calibration type disc which has specific visual shots that better show the effect of changes to the sharpness setting as well as what black level does. Turning on the black level will cause "black crush" which is where in a dark scenes the darker images are harder to decipher (i.e. they blend together more eliminating the shadow detail).
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post #45 of 119
12/19/12 at 9:11am
i agree with the black setting. it does drown out the detail a bit. I noticed this while watching Blade II.
but the Sharpness setting i see a visual difference. the outline of characters is blurry when set a 0. Another way of noticing is while watchin football the score at bottom was blurry, but when sharpness set at 100, it looked perfect.

Why does the Dynamic mode, have a much better color pop. than the customized standard setting that optimus suggested.. (his has a more subtle washed out look)
has anyone else experienced this?
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post #46 of 119
12/19/12 at 9:39am
Also, my pixel jogger is disabled, should i be using this?
And after reading, people are saying dynamic mode is what they call "torch mode" and has all the setting jacked up and not good for young plasmas? is this correct

thanks
hope to get some replys to all my questions.
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post #47 of 119
12/20/12 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

i agree with the black setting. it does drown out the detail a bit. I noticed this while watching Blade II.
but the Sharpness setting i see a visual difference. the outline of characters is blurry when set a 0. Another way of noticing is while watchin football the score at bottom was blurry, but when sharpness set at 100, it looked perfect.
Why does the Dynamic mode, have a much better color pop. than the customized standard setting that optimus suggested.. (his has a more subtle washed out look)
has anyone else experienced this?

Dynamic mode tends to affect the color accuracy which is mostly a personal preference. For those that want accurate color reproduction out of their TV they'd use settings like Optimus'. However it is entirely up to the user to decide if they like another setting more like the Dynamic mode for you. So if you like the brighter colors with more pop then leave it on that setting. When a TV is calibrated to color accuracy many users will say it looks washed out.

It is believed that keeping the plasma in Dynamic mode increases the chance for Image burn in when a static image stays on the screen for too long. I think it will also speed up how fast your TV dims (loses max brightness) over the years. However current plasmas will last longer than most would likely keep it anyways so the brightness one is a non issue in my opinion for most people.
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post #48 of 119
12/20/12 at 1:39pm
ok, another thing i have noticed is in dynamic mode, you cannot select the advanced options or picture settings, they are locked out. Why is this? im guessing the Dynamic has the black setting turned all the way up to darkest.
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post #49 of 119
12/21/12 at 12:51pm
Two questions as im thinking of buying the 64PN533 from Costco:

1. How bad are reflections on the screen? Is it "morror" bad?

2. Anyone noticing the ABL (auto brightness limiter) on this set? Is it bad, annoying, or really only shows on all white commercials?

I ask because I am watching college hockey since the NHL cant figure it out....
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post #50 of 119
12/21/12 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

ok, another thing i have noticed is in dynamic mode, you cannot select the advanced options or picture settings, they are locked out. Why is this? im guessing the Dynamic has the black setting turned all the way up to darkest.
@ diggman:
Dynamic mode is a "preset" that appeals to people that watch tv in very bright rooms. This particular preset, for whatever reason, has limited adjustability. The other modes, however (standard and movie) have very good picture controls. Samsung is well known for having very user friendly menus and very customizable picture options.

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Two questions as im thinking of buying the 64PN533 from Costco:
1. How bad are reflections on the screen? Is it "morror" bad?
2. Anyone noticing the ABL (auto brightness limiter) on this set? Is it bad, annoying, or really only shows on all white commercials?
I ask because I am watching college hockey since the NHL cant figure it out....
@scooter520:
The ABL is pretty standard on any "e" certified plasma. I have read they all do this. But, to be honest, I've read that there are ways to calibrate it to a nearly undetectable level. I don't notice mine at all on the e530 60" model. Also, I've read that you can disable it from the "service" menu, which can only be brought up by entering some kind of code. I wouldn't mess with that though unless you really know what you're doing! smile.gif
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post #51 of 119
12/23/12 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by scooter520 View Post

Two questions as im thinking of buying the 64PN533 from Costco:
1. How bad are reflections on the screen? Is it "morror" bad?
2. Anyone noticing the ABL (auto brightness limiter) on this set? Is it bad, annoying, or really only shows on all white commercials?
I ask because I am watching college hockey since the NHL cant figure it out....


Reflections are noticeable, the 64e533 is the first plasma that I've owned so I don't know if its better/worse than others, I'm coming from a dlp and its noticeable. But I've enjoyed it so far, had it about two weeks. Daytime TV watching really isn't a problem but daytime gaming is kinda annoying. I researched like crazy and for the money I am quite satisfied with my purchase. Also, it comes with a swivel stand!
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post #52 of 119
12/31/12 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

Glad there is now an official thread.
I posted this before, but I guess now it belongs in the right place. Enjoy!
Hello all,
I am not a professional calibrator, but I really spent a lot of time testing and tweaking this display. I figure I'd share my results with the AVS community.
I tested this tv using the “AVCHD disc AVS709” and “Spears and Munsil HD Benchmark Blu-disc” played through a Panasonic DMP-220. I also tested using a PC grayscale JPG and ICAL TV calibration game played through an Xbox 360.
I used the Spears and Munsil blue filter.
PN60E530 Settings:
Settings
Cell Light: 20
Contrast: 87
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50
Advanced Settings
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Gamma: 0
Color Space: Auto
Flesh Tone: 0
Picture Options
Color Tone: Warm 2
Size: Screen Fit
Digital NR: Off
*HDMI Black Level: See Below
Film Mode: Off

White Balance: I don't have a meter, so I left these alone at the default setting of 25. I have no way to properly measure d6500 Kelvin. However, I was able to successfully reduce the "pinkish hue" some users have mentioned in their white levels by adjusting the contrast down to 87. Reds were clipping at 88 and above.
For those interested, this display failed the "jaggies" test (slight flicker during the pass-through) and the "chroma multi-burst" test (thin vertical only) on the Spears and Munsil disc. All other tests passed.
*HDMI Black Level: Flagged for RGB only. Toggle Low for while watching movies, Normal while playing games.
In addition for gamers - I can confirm the TV properly receives RGB signals via HDMI, but only through the HDMI/DVI input. Once properly calibrated to my very dim/completely dark room, the tv correctly displays 16-235 when HDMI black level is set to low and 0-255 when HDMI black level is set to normal.
Xbox 360 Video Settings
Optimal Resolution
Reference Levels: Standard
Color Space: Auto
Display Discovery: Enabled
Panasonic DMP-220 Settings
Advanced Chroma: On
Everything else: Off

Hey Optimus. Thanks for posting your calibration info. on the site for everyone. I'm running into an issue with the HDMI Black Level Setting. If I set RGB Full Range on my PS3 to Limited instead of Full the E530 allows me to switch to Low on the black level setting. However as soon as I play a movie, for example the Blu Ray copy of Dark Knight Rises the setting automatically switches to Normal. It seems as though I wasn't experiencing this issue before I unplugged the TV to mount it on the wall, which lost my original cali settings. Although I may have not noticed that it was switching to normal while watching a movie, but I seem to remember being able to switch between Normal and Low and before where I discerned that the Low setting produced better blacks than Normal. Now the option is locked on Normal while viewing.

Many thanks!
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post #53 of 119
12/31/12 at 6:47pm
Thought I read that some Panasonics might be brighter and better for hockey.I've got the e450.It could be brighter but it's good enough.
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post #54 of 119
12/31/12 at 9:03pm
No prob. The issue with it switching back to "normal "isn't a problem, in fact, it is correct. It will only give the option of black level normal or low when an RGB signal is received, such as from a PC or gaming format. The Blu ray signal is sent in another mode (ycbcr) which is the standard for movies. You used to need a DVI connection to be able to toggle this format option, but Samsungs are able to detect the signal over HDMI. Bottom line, if you want 0-255 color format for gaming, use normal. If you want 16-235 color format, set it to low. Whatever your eyes prefer is what you should select.
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post #55 of 119
1/2/13 at 10:57am
I watched 300 in HD and it looked horrible, not sure if it was the way the movie was filmed or what, but there was alot of little pixel squares it looked like.. What ever was focused in looked amazing , such as a face talking, but all the blurred out stuff in the background was not smooth at all.. I checked it on my LCD and it looked fine. what causes this? i brought the sharpness down and it seemed to help slightly, but not much, This is with OPTIMUS settings on standard. (*but with DYNAMIC CONTRAST set to LOW)

seems like when set to MOVIE mode it helped out the most, but everything looks kinda of a yellow brownish hue over.

I guess its kinda of frustrating having to switch to find a specific setting for different movies or shows.. Have others experienced this with this TV?

i will say that DARK KNIGHT RISES. looks amazing in movie mode, with modified standard mode- not as good, dynamic- bad

overall i like the set, just not blown away by the picture(this is being very picky), for most it is a great picture, i think once i get it calibrated right i will have little to babble about.
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post #56 of 119
1/2/13 at 11:07am
"300" is noted for being a particularly grainy film.
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post #57 of 119
1/2/13 at 12:14pm
Optimus do you notice a diff with dynamic contrast off
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post #58 of 119
1/2/13 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

Optimus do you notice a diff with dynamic contrast off
Yep. I leave it off.
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post #59 of 119
1/2/13 at 4:00pm
Optimus - I just picked this TV up and got it turned on. Is it OK to go ahead and apply your settings, or do I need to a wait a while before doing so?

Thanks
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post #60 of 119
1/2/13 at 5:10pm
^^ I ran the plasma break in slides for a few days before I calibrated the tv. There are arguments on both sides as to whether or not the break in slides are necessary with today's displays. I read that you should probably bank around 100-200 hours before calibrating.
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