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post #61 of 152
What exactly does the dynamic contrast do? for me when set on low it give a little more color. But im not sure which is more accurate.
another side note- when watching blurays or movies, the picture looks strikingly better on movie mode, which auto sets too, if i manually switch it back to standard(Optimus settings) it is very very dark.

also

When watching blu ray or dvd how do i get those dang wide screen black bars on top and bottom to go away?. I PREFER a Full Screen picture.

Dex- i did modified my settings the moment i turned on my tv out the box. all is well so far. if anything these settings Optimus suggest are more forgiving on the system than the presets.
post #62 of 152
It makes black more black and white more bright.it's better with it off and adjust with brightness and contrast , color
post #63 of 152
ok thanks, Why do they put all thees custome features and settings on here, If everyone is preferred to have them turned off. If the picture looks better without them, why offer them??

also anyone input on this

When watching blu ray or dvd how do i get those dang wide screen black bars on top and bottom to go away?. I PREFER a Full Screen picture.
post #64 of 152
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

When watching blu ray or dvd how do i get those dang wide screen black bars on top and bottom to go away?. I PREFER a Full Screen picture.

diggman08,
The standard aspect ratio of HD broadcast content is going to be 16:9 so the black bars (or letterbox) will not be a problem. Movies, however, often have an aspect ratio of 1.85:1 and sometimes 2.39:1, as intended for theatrical viewing. I am not sure about this Samsung's settings but on most devices, you have two options:
1) You can choose to zoom, or fill the screen with picture - thus cropping the left and right margins of video.
2) You can choose to stretch, or distort the picture to fill the screen.
In my opinion, letterboxing is part of home movie viewing. I don't think I am alone in saying that I DO NOT recommend either of these options.

If it bothers you that much, you can also opt for an extra-wide display. I think Philips & Vizio have released Cinemascope ratio TV's in the past. But alas, during standard 16:9 broadcast you will have pillarboxing...
post #65 of 152
its not that bothersome. Although on 16x9 it zooms in a little more than screen fit. has anyone else noticed this? what everyone using. Screen fit or 16x9?

Whats funny is when watchin a blu ray. for example Dark Knight rises- some scenes will be full screen (when talking close up) then when it will switch to an action scene or something the black bars will show up.. I have never scene this before

is this normal? was the movie designed for this effect

another few side notes:

regarding the BUZZING - some movies/tv shows will buzz more than others, sometimes i here nothing at all from the tv, sometimes its loud.

Some black/bluish screens like the home screen on my Bluray player, it looks like a sparkling white dots all over the screen, (more noticable up close) is this normal?
post #66 of 152
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

its not that bothersome. Although on 16x9 it zooms in a little more than screen fit. has anyone else noticed this? what everyone using. Screen fit or 16x9?
Whats funny is when watchin a blu ray. for example Dark Knight rises- some scenes will be full screen (when talking close up) then when it will switch to an action scene or something the black bars will show up.. I have never scene this before
is this normal? was the movie designed for this effect
another few side notes:
regarding the BUZZING - some movies/tv shows will buzz more than others, sometimes i here nothing at all from the tv, sometimes its loud.
Some black/bluish screens like the home screen on my Bluray player, it looks like a sparkling white dots all over the screen, (more noticable up close) is this normal?

That is because the dark kight and DK Rises, Nolan filmed some of the action scenes in imax and the rest normally. So its normal the movie is showing some scenes in full screen and some letterbox, its how he filmed both movies

I think the sparkling dots is the pixel shift if you have that turned on. As for the buzzing, it may buzz more during super white/bright scenes.
post #67 of 152
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

its not that bothersome. Although on 16x9 it zooms in a little more than screen fit. has anyone else noticed this? what everyone using. Screen fit or 16x9?

Definitely Screen Fit. It's 1:1 pixel mapping meaning it gives you exactly what's on the disc.
post #68 of 152
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Originally Posted by diggman08 View Post

another few side notes:
regarding the BUZZING - some movies/tv shows will buzz more than others, sometimes i here nothing at all from the tv, sometimes its loud.
Some black/bluish screens like the home screen on my Bluray player, it looks like a sparkling white dots all over the screen, (more noticable up close) is this normal?

Bought the 64 from costco yesterday, returned it today for the above two reasons plus the picture was terribly grainy, even on Bluray. Mine buzzed LOUD, so loud I could hear it over the volume from 10 feet away. Mine also had the sparkles. And yes, I own plasmas, two Panasonics, and my even 50" X1 Panny manufactured 4 years ago is way better than this samsung model.
post #69 of 152
I'm actually on my second one.. First unit was a great deal for the price, but was not happy until I did the firmware update (1012.3?). Unfortunately when I was in the process of moving I didn't set it in a good spot and the dog knocked it over, but it is what it is.

Does anyone have a firmware file for any other version besides 1012.3? The new TV I got this week had firmware 1018 and I wanted to make sure I had the image quality fix, so I installed 1012.3 which went fine. Unfortunately now a couple interface options such as the power button menu show up as garbage, like the box is there but looks like snow/static on an old tv. I want to reinstall the firmware but I only have 1012.3 and it says it's already installed.
post #70 of 152
I'll try to help, but I am a little confused. So, you had version 1018, and you downgraded to 1012.3? I am wondering which version the TVs are shipping with. I have a PN60E530 on firmware version 1017.1. I looked at updating the firmware from the Samsung site, but figured I had the most current version. There must be a way to get the most recent version from Samsung. Perhaps you can contact them and they can email it to you?
post #71 of 152
how do we locate what version we are running. Also if we dont have wi-fi how do we update the firmware?
funny:
all this time i have been playing with the settings and tv viewing just wasnt blowing me away. Short story short- my HD DVR receiver was set to 720p wink.gif now i switched it to 1080stretch and looks much better.

question i ordered a 1080p movie through directv.. is it really in 1080p or 1080i.? also when i ordered it. both the 720 and 1080 where highlighted on the receiever. wierd.
post #72 of 152
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

I'll try to help, but I am a little confused. So, you had version 1018, and you downgraded to 1012.3? I am wondering which version the TVs are shipping with. I have a PN60E530 on firmware version 1017.1. I looked at updating the firmware from the Samsung site, but figured I had the most current version. There must be a way to get the most recent version from Samsung. Perhaps you can contact them and they can email it to you?

Yup. The one I received 3 months ago had a fw < 1012, and this has got to be near the end of the model so I'd be surprised if they are still manufacturing them/updating them firmware. I thought maybe it was a bug and I was happy with the 1012.3 fw so I figured it couldn't hurt.

I guess I'll email them and see if I can get 1018 back.
post #73 of 152
Samsung support chat...

Bob: There is no firmware 1018. The latest updated firmware for the TV is 1012.3

You: Is there another version somewhere I can download so I can reinstall 1012.3?

You: Other people that have the same tv are on 1017.1, so there has to be more firmwares out there.

Bob: I'm very sorry but that is the only firmware available for the TV that you have.

I emailed support as well so we'll see.
Edited by reighnman - 1/11/13 at 11:01am
post #74 of 152
Um, this is a pic taken from my "Contact Samsung" screen, page 2:
post #75 of 152
As you can see, my pic clearly shows version 1017.1.

Here is a link to a Samsung Q&A thread that asks about this particular firmware release - and, acknowledges that 1017.1 exists.
http://answers.us.samsung.com/answers/7463/product/UN60EH6050F/samsung-un60eh6050f-questions-answers/questions.htm?expandquestion=1088571

Granted - it is for another model TV, but they are running the same firmware.

Hope to have helped - please let us know what the outcome is.
post #76 of 152
I have this on my tv. z.JPG 103k .JPG file
post #77 of 152
Well, clearly there is a a higher firmware then 1012.3. I have 1017.1, and as we can see, 1018.1 also exists. I hope Samsung puts the most current version on their support site. It may account for some discrepancies regarding motion blur and the auto dim feature that have been reported on these forums.
post #78 of 152
I just called support. The rep told me that 1012.3 is the most current firmware version available.

The rep had me navigate through my tv menu, and asked what version my tv displays.

I said, 1017.1. Then the rep said, 1017.1 is the most current firmware version available.

I explained that there are pictures on the web, and there is active discussion happening RIGHT NOW in online forums, that suggests otherwise.

The rep said that she cannot help me.

Soooooo...I emailed support.

Grand scheme, probably not such a big deal. However, it is apparent that the firmware version available on the Samsung support website is not up to date. Seeing as though this model does not have an internet connection, and all upgrades must be done manually through a usb stick, I do not think it is outlandish to make available to us the most current firmware version.

I am waiting to hear back. I will keep everyone posted.
post #79 of 152
Well I got myself it to a bigger bind..

On a mission to find a different version of the firmware so I could reinstall 1012.3, I found T-MX9FAUSC 1013.A on the support site for the PN51E530A3FXZA, figuring it would be the same since mine is a PN60E530A3FXZA...

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/PN51E530A3FXZA

Well it recognized the new firmware and asked me if I wanted to upgrade, so I said sure. After the upgrade finished and it went to power cycle, it no longer turns on. The red standby light no longer shows while it is off either. I pulled the power cord and plugged it back in, screen started to power up then shut off again.

Is there a reset button on the board someone or a way to reprogram the flash without using the tv menu? I assume the factory does it some how unless it's already on the chip when they install it.
post #80 of 152
What's even worse is until yesterday I still had the old TV, which all the boards were good just a broken screen so I probably could have just swapped them...

They came and took the dumpster yesterday frown.gif
post #81 of 152
UPDATE:
After a phone call, email, and two live chat sessions, I was able to get Samsung to acknowledge the existence of firmware version 1018.1. However, they have not yet updated their support website to make this firmware version available for download. There is no telling when this may happen. If I were you, I would take your tv in and have someone look at it, or call Samsung for a service call since it is still under warranty.
post #82 of 152
I'm having this tv delivered tomorrow. I decided to upgrade from the 51" to the 60". I love everything about this tv, however there appears to be a bit of motion blur that's a bit unsettling. Is there any chance that an update might improve this feature? I guess I should ask others if you are experiencing motion blur with the 60" like I was with the 51"?
post #83 of 152
I haven't experienced the motion blur on my 60", but some people say they have. I have a feeling it has a lot to do with the firmware the tv is running. I have 1017.1 with no issue. Others have cited running 1012.3 and having issues with motion blur. Until Samsung chooses to update their support site with a fix, I doubt this issue will get resolved.
post #84 of 152
Is yours version TS02?

The new one I got that had fw 1018 on it has version TS02 (says on the box/serial sticker)

I don't believe the one I got 6 months ago had that, and it came with fw 1011 or something. That one def had motion blur issues which were better after updating to 1012.3. Maybe TS02 is an updated version, or they could all be TS02 not sure.
post #85 of 152
I have my new 60" set up and it appears at first glance that it's much blurrier (not as sharp) as the 51". Watching a b-ball game and while close up shots look good, the game shots look not nearly as crisp. Any suggestions? I'm using OP's settings. Thanks.

In addition, the whites appear to be too bright.
post #86 of 152
Not noticing much motion blur on the 60" which is a positive. Watching another game, perhaps it depends on the lighting in the arena, but the game looks brighter and a bit more crisper looking. Still though, the teams name and score is a little fuzzy. Will sharpness help this?

How do I check what update I have?
post #87 of 152
Yes, mine is TS02.

If you go to your ""Support" menu option, and tab down to Contact Samsung," press page down on the remote and it will give you the firmware version.
post #88 of 152
Thank you. Btw, got an amazing price match today at BB. Gotta keep the tv now. smile.gif
post #89 of 152
I checked mine and the update is a 1018.1. Perhaps this is why I don't see as much motion blur.
post #90 of 152
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post


@scooter520:
The ABL is pretty standard on any "e" certified plasma. I have read they all do this. But, to be honest, I've read that there are ways to calibrate it to a nearly undetectable level. I don't notice mine at all on the e530 60" model. Also, I've read that you can disable it from the "service" menu, which can only be brought up by entering some kind of code. I wouldn't mess with that though unless you really know what you're doing! smile.gif

I wanted to respond again to scooter520, because I was able to find a way to calibrate out the auto-dim. Really, not the auto-dim, but more of the "auto-off" that happens when the display senses an "all-black" screen. This happens often when watching movie previews, or you may see it in between commercials when nothing is on the screen for a split-second. The display actually "turns-off" the lamp to conserve energy. Not a big deal, but it can be distracting to some viewers. I have actually noticed this in store with some of the other "e-certified" plasmas.

Using my calibration settings, it meant moving up the brightness from 44 to 45, just one tick did the trick. If you are using any of the dynamic contrast or black tone settings, you will need to experiment. But, this did solve the issue.
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