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post #211 of 476
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Agreed.
However, it is important to remember the biggest core of SW fans are older farts like me and we already have one foot in the grave....
I'm one of those old farts, too, but the Star Wars base is being expanded with The Clone Wars TV series. Judging from the attendance at the most recent Star Wars Celebration, this newest incarnation of the Star Wars universe is growing that younger fan set. Whether it's something that sticks with them remains to be seen, but it's not just those of us that grew up with the original trilogy are all that's left of fandom.

One other interesting thing that was show at the convention was an experimental sneak peak at a series being developed specifically to young children. I wonder how much of that was born out of the anticipated Disney merger.

Handled correctly, there's no reason to believe that the $4B price tag was a solid and conservative investment in an evergreen property.

Scott
post #212 of 476
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Originally Posted by smudge981 View Post

More fuel to the fire. Don't know if this is going to be good or not:
http://kotaku.com/5960715/lucasfilm-wants-to-make-two-or-three-movies-a-year-thats-a-lot-of-star-wars
Well, it doesn't say that they're going to be Star Wars movies.
post #213 of 476
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Originally Posted by srw1000 View Post

Handled correctly, there's no reason to believe that the $4B price tag was a solid and conservative investment in an evergreen property.
Scott
Agreed.
post #214 of 476
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Originally Posted by srw1000 View Post

I'm one of those old farts, too, but the Star Wars base is being expanded with The Clone Wars TV series. Judging from the attendance at the most recent Star Wars Celebration, this newest incarnation of the Star Wars universe is growing that younger fan set. Whether it's something that sticks with them remains to be seen, but it's not just those of us that grew up with the original trilogy are all that's left of fandom.Scott

There was a hot air balloon glow in my area over the summer and they had a bag pipe corp (sorry if I'm not not using a proper reference for that) but within the "corp" they had a younger contingent that was playing the Star Wars theme. Let me tell you, you haven't lived until you've heard Star Wars played on bag pipes! Anyway, you could tell that they weren't just playing it because someone said this is what we're going to play. They were into it as if they were genuine fans. So with that I suspect there will always be a Star Wars fan base over the generations. Even the OT.
post #215 of 476
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Boba Fett is one of my favourite characters but I dont think a side movie with him would work. He just work better as a side character. Making him a lead will destroy to much of the mysterie around the character and also remove some of his badass factor.

i thought george already took a big hit on his mystique with the weak way they killed him off (apparently) in ep. 6
post #216 of 476
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

i thought george already took a big hit on his mystique with the weak way they killed him off (apparently) in ep. 6

Fett didn't die.
post #217 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Fett didn't die.

yeah i know he's alive in the books and s.w. universe, but the intent in rotj was to kill him off until they found out during the prequels how many fett toys they could sell
post #218 of 476
Looks like writers for XII, XII, and IX have been chosen.
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The Hunger Games: Catching Fire and Toy Story 3 writer Michael Arndt has already turned in a 40-50 page treatment for the whole new trilogy and is supposed to write Episode VII on his own. Now we have word on who will script Episode VIII and Episode IX. Heat Vision has word Empire Strikes Back writer Lawrence Kasdan and Sherlock Holmes writer Simon Kinberg will write the other two sequels, but it's not clear who will write which one.
post #219 of 476
Nice find.
I do like the choices, these are guys with proven track records.

The director choices are critical IMO.
He can either make the movies go into hyperdrive or implode.

AND a big question is how much, if any, Disney will allow GL to have influence.
IMO, he should be given some.
It's important to retain a thread thru the SW saga of some kind continuity with the past.
post #220 of 476
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Nice find.
I do like the choices, these are guys with proven track records.
The director choices are critical IMO.
He can either make the movies go into hyperdrive or implode.
AND a big question is how much, if any, Disney will allow GL to have influence.
IMO, he should be given some.
It's important to retain a thread thru the SW saga of some kind continuity with the past.

Oh, I'd be shocked if GL isn't used as a consultant. It would almost be foolish not to.
post #221 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Oh, I'd be shocked if GL isn't used as a consultant. It would almost be foolish not to.
Agreed.
Disney would be making a serious blunder not to.wink.gif
post #222 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Oh, I'd be shocked if GL isn't used as a consultant. It would almost be foolish not to.


just don't let lucas do the final cut...
post #223 of 476
Sh7ola.. where were these heavyweight writers when you need them, why didn't they do this for EP 1-3 when it was most needed. It's loo late, the cancer killed this franchise. What a shame that fat whale couldn't step aside and asked for help to feed his greed and ego now it's trashed he sells the dead carcass.
post #224 of 476
As the father of an 8 year old, I can tell you...Star Wars is BIG with kids (between Wii games and Lego kits, I'm goin' broke!), and Disney taking the helm and announcing more movies to come was great news for my son and I. I beileve Disney's deep pockets and doing a great job when they want to (and bet the will want to keep the quality of SW at a high level) is the best thing to happen to the franchise in a long time. Now, if they'd just get right on it with a new complete saga box set on BlueRay...biggrin.gif
post #225 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Oh, I'd be shocked if GL isn't used as a consultant. It would almost be foolish not to.

I can't think of a serious reason that they should use him in any capacity. Consult on what exactly? I'm sure there are multiple people at Disney.....Pixar........the 711 down the street, that could give just as good input and better, than he could.
post #226 of 476
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

I can't think of a serious reason that they should use him in any capacity. Consult on what exactly? I'm sure there are multiple people at Disney.....Pixar........the 711 down the street, that could give just as good input and better, than he could.
What they really need is his "stamp of approval."
If they don't, they would open themselves up to endless criticism by the Old School Diehards.
It would be a PR disaster....
post #227 of 476
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

I can't think of a serious reason that they should use him in any capacity. Consult on what exactly? I'm sure there are multiple people at Disney.....Pixar........the 711 down the street, that could give just as good input and better, than he could.

He could/should be consulted on the storyline. Lucas wrote Star Wars. There was a vision of this galaxy far, far away in his head for years. No one else can tell you what his intentions were with any concept pertaining to Star Wars. I'm not saying all of his thoughts, ideas, etc. are good one's but the vision is his and his alone. To make Star Wars, with developing the characters there had to be a backstory to some extent. And I'm sure he had a feel of life after the original trilogy. Disney execs could certainly realize a lot of value in his consultation of the story concept. This would enable to keep a consistency with the vision and their production team can add a little Disney magic to it from there with a little stronger scripting and enhanced concepts. Disney could also get a feel from Lucas, what he was attempting to do during production of Star Wars. There is much that can and has been said about Lucas as a director but somehow he made the first one work. Sure picture making is different now (thanks to him) but there was still a vision involved and it all belonged to George Lucas.

Now when I say he should be a consultant I'm not necessarily saying that he should have a hands on role in the production or even that his comments and suggestions should be taken as absolute. Just considered in the scope of the concept.
post #228 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

He could/should be consulted on the storyline. Lucas wrote Star Wars. There was a vision of this galaxy far, far away in his head for years. No one else can tell you what his intentions were with any concept pertaining to Star Wars. I'm not saying all of his thoughts, ideas, etc. are good one's but the vision is his and his alone. To make Star Wars, with developing the characters there had to be a backstory to some extent. And I'm sure he had a feel of life after the original trilogy. Disney execs could certainly realize a lot of value in his consultation of the story concept. This would enable to keep a consistency with the vision and their production team can add a little Disney magic to it from there with a little stronger scripting and enhanced concepts. Disney could also get a feel from Lucas, what he was attempting to do during production of Star Wars. There is much that can and has been said about Lucas as a director but somehow he made the first one work. Sure picture making is different now (thanks to him) but there was still a vision involved and it all belonged to George Lucas.
Now when I say he should be a consultant I'm not necessarily saying that he should have a hands on role in the production or even that his comments and suggestions should be taken as absolute. Just considered in the scope of the concept.
Exactly right.wink.gif
post #229 of 476
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

I can't think of a serious reason that they should use him in any capacity. Consult on what exactly? I'm sure there are multiple people at Disney.....Pixar........the 711 down the street, that could give just as good input and better, than he could.

But he's still the one who created it in the first place... Nobody can change that, whether he's a good director is irrelevant in that context. Star Wars wouldn't exist without George Lucas.
post #230 of 476
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

But he's still the one who created it in the first place... Nobody can change that, whether he's a good director is irrelevant in that context. Star Wars wouldn't exist without George Lucas.
+1
post #231 of 476
hell yes he should be involved in helping developing the new storyline.

don't need him to direct or provide instructions on how best to produce a new trilogy,
but the one thing lucas does very, very well is to storytell.
post #232 of 476
Rick McCallum exits Lucasfilm to go independent. Hmmmmm......
post #233 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Rick McCallum exits Lucasfilm to go independent. Hmmmmm......

is that a skeptical Hmmmmm or a joyful Hmmmmm? biggrin.gifwink.gif
post #234 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Rick McCallum exits Lucasfilm to go independent. Hmmmmm......
To be expected.
With buyouts there always is a change of leadership.wink.gif
post #235 of 476
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

is that a skeptical Hmmmmm or a joyful Hmmmmm? biggrin.gifwink.gif

I think it's both. biggrin.gif
post #236 of 476
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

To be expected.
With buyouts there always is a change of leadership.wink.gif

And this i know. Rick has just been such a strong face of the franchise for so long it's just kind of....strange. But I embrace the change.
post #237 of 476
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

He could/should be consulted on the storyline. Lucas wrote Star Wars. There was a vision of this galaxy far, far away in his head for years. No one else can tell you what his intentions were with any concept pertaining to Star Wars. I'm not saying all of his thoughts, ideas, etc. are good one's but the vision is his and his alone. To make Star Wars, with developing the characters there had to be a backstory to some extent. And I'm sure he had a feel of life after the original trilogy. Disney execs could certainly realize a lot of value in his consultation of the story concept. This would enable to keep a consistency with the vision and their production team can add a little Disney magic to it from there with a little stronger scripting and enhanced concepts. Disney could also get a feel from Lucas, what he was attempting to do during production of Star Wars. There is much that can and has been said about Lucas as a director but somehow he made the first one work. Sure picture making is different now (thanks to him) but there was still a vision involved and it all belonged to George Lucas.
Now when I say he should be a consultant I'm not necessarily saying that he should have a hands on role in the production or even that his comments and suggestions should be taken as absolute. Just considered in the scope of the concept.

Whatever his original ......."vision' was, what he does today as far as film making goes, is more important. He is not a good film maker, and his ideas have turned out to be worse than his ability to direct. The last three movies should have proven that he is no longer a necessary part of the Star Wars universe. This is borne out in how video game cut scenes far exceed the quality of story and visual beauty of the prequels. While I'm sure these have had his stamp of approval, I have a hard time believing that he was necessary in them being as good as they were. I understand that people cleave to the belief that GL was at one point a visionary, and that he is somehow a legend in some way or ways....I simply believe he got lucky.

As much as I love the Star Wars universe, I think it has outgrown GL as a film maker and as a spring of ideas. The only area I could see him being of actual help, is in the development and overseeing of the FX. Otherwise, I can only see his hand in the movies as being wrapped around the creative throats of better and more imaginative minds.
post #238 of 476
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

But he's still the one who created it in the first place... Nobody can change that, whether he's a good director is irrelevant in that context. Star Wars wouldn't exist without George Lucas.

I'm still not seeing that as a logical reason to have his hand in the new movies. He created the force, which between that and lightsabers, was the most awesome part of the Star Wars mythos, and then look what he did with it..........
post #239 of 476
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

The only area I could see him being of actual help, is in the development and overseeing of the FX. Otherwise, I can only see his hand in the movies as being wrapped around the creative throats of better and more imaginative minds.
That's probably the area he would have the least interest in. He's always pushed special effects, but only to get his vision on the screen. That vision is what has driven Star Wars over the past three decades.

For another example, look at the current development of The Clone Wars. If you listen to Dave Filoni, George's influence has been elemental to the series. While day-to-day production has been handed over to a new team, George is still part of the story-writing process. I would image that would be the template for the movies, at least the next trilogy. Isn't that collaboration what some fans have said was missing for the prequels?
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I'm still not seeing that as a logical reason to have his hand in the new movies. He created the force, which between that and lightsabers, was the most awesome part of the Star Wars mythos, and then look what he did with it..........
What did he do with it?

Scott
post #240 of 476
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

Whatever his original ......."vision' was, what he does today as far as film making goes, is more important. He is not a good film maker, and his ideas have turned out to be worse than his ability to direct. The last three movies should have proven that he is no longer a necessary part of the Star Wars universe. This is borne out in how video game cut scenes far exceed the quality of story and visual beauty of the prequels. While I'm sure these have had his stamp of approval, I have a hard time believing that he was necessary in them being as good as they were. I understand that people cleave to the belief that GL was at one point a visionary, and that he is somehow a legend in some way or ways....I simply believe he got lucky.
As much as I love the Star Wars universe, I think it has outgrown GL as a film maker and as a spring of ideas. The only area I could see him being of actual help, is in the development and overseeing of the FX. Otherwise, I can only see his hand in the movies as being wrapped around the creative throats of better and more imaginative minds.
Kinda harsh, but reasonable criticism.

However, what will be coming MUST tie-in to the rest of the SW Universe.
Otherwise, we're not talking about SW anymore....wink.gif
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