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Bowers and Wilkins 684's compaired to Polk Audio RTiA7's

post #1 of 19
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I want to add a set of Bowers and Wilkins 684's or Polk Audio RTiA7's to my existing set up. See post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/781208/emotiva-thread-q-a-technical-talk-only/15150#post_22532361, page 506 post 15158

to understand my issue. These floor speakers would be the left and rights and the existing Polk Audio RM7000 to be the hi left and right. Any opinions on a comparison between the Bowers and Wilkins 684's or Polk Audio RTiA7's ? These are with in my budget.
Edited by FrankTR - 11/4/12 at 9:14am
post #2 of 19
694 are not worth the money. If you need floor standers from B&W get 683.
post #3 of 19
I agree with ap1. For one reason only. There is something missing in the sound of the 684 compared with the 683. You would have to A/B test them to see for yourself. The 683 is one hell of a speaker. The Polks are different all together. See if you can listen to both to make a decission.
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by karlsaudio View Post

I agree with ap1. For one reason only. There is something missing in the sound of the 684 compared with the 683. You would have to A/B test them to see for yourself. The 683 is one hell of a speaker. The Polks are different all together. See if you can listen to both to make a decission.


I want to be able to listen to both side by side however one store close has B&W and other Polks.
post #5 of 19
Side by side would be best but perhaps you could still listen to both using the same electronics. I agree with the others about the 684s. I'd even take a pair of the 685s over the 684s. The 683 is really the best choice for floor speakers in the 600 series line.
post #6 of 19
I am not familiar with the RM700s. Is that a little Sat/Sub system? RTiA 7s would blow that away. I would say go for the Polks for now as Newegg usually has them on sale and can get them for a fraction of the price of the B&W 683s. This will leave you some money to update other parts of your system.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by karlsaudio View Post

I am not familiar with the RM700s. Is that a little Sat/Sub system? RTiA 7s would blow that away. I would say go for the Polks for now as Newegg usually has them on sale and can get them for a fraction of the price of the B&W 683s. This will leave you some money to update other parts of your system.


What would make a good center to go with the RTiA7's? I went and listened to the 683 yesterday and they are great with a new center HTM 62
post #8 of 19
There is no comparison. I have listened to the Polk's at Frys and they just sounded lifeless. The dynamic range seemed limited. In contrast, the B&W 683's sound lifelike revealing details that you would otherwise miss with the Polks. I've got the 604 S3's and love them, and my boss just picked up the 683's. I helped him set them up the other day and they sound great.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Tweaked05 View Post

There is no comparison. I have listened to the Polk's at Frys and they just sounded lifeless. The dynamic range seemed limited. In contrast, the B&W 683's sound lifelike revealing details that you would otherwise miss with the Polks. I've got the 604 S3's and love them, and my boss just picked up the 683's. I helped him set them up the other day and they sound great.

OK I pulled the plug and got two 683 in black ash. Now I just need my receiver( Okyno NR 709) back from repair and hook this up. Going to try to stay with my Polk RM7000 center and see it will work. My wife was totally against me spend the extra $ for the 683 so during the demo the room had 684 and 800 series the 683 were in a open area connected to a large TV. They brought the 683 into the listening room and with-in 10 seconds of a song my wife said buy them.
Edited by FrankTR - 11/5/12 at 2:30am
post #10 of 19
Nice choice. The Polk center will work but you really need to timbre match the front three speakers for best results. I would upgrade to a CMC2 center (CM series) or single 685 book shelf speaker (works great as center compared to HTM62 or HTM61) when you get the chance.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by postrokfan View Post

Nice choice. The Polk center will work but you really need to timbre match the front three speakers for best results. I would upgrade to a CMC2 center (CM series) or single 685 book shelf speaker (works great as center compared to HTM62 or HTM61) when you get the chance.


I have been using the 683's and a new marantz 7007 receiver. This is with my Polk center and some other surround speakers. The Polk center is an older RM7000. I found a B&W center HTM62 used and a LCM-600SC either one is affordable both used. Also found a used CM Center 2 for $900 used. That is more than I want to pay right now. So any ideas on the improvement I could expect with the HTM62 over the Polk RM7000 or is it really that much better to wait for the funds to get a CM Center 2???
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by FrankTR View Post

I have been using the 683's and a new marantz 7007 receiver. This is with my Polk center and some other surround speakers. The Polk center is an older RM7000. I found a B&W center HTM62 used and a LCM-600SC either one is affordable both used. Also found a used CM Center 2 for $900 used. That is more than I want to pay right now. So any ideas on the improvement I could expect with the HTM62 over the Polk RM7000 or is it really that much better to wait for the funds to get a CM Center 2???

If it were me I would wait and get the CMC2. Unless that's an exceptional deal on the HTM62 I think you would be underwhelmed.
post #13 of 19
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The asking price or the HTC62 is $250 and the space I have is just enough for the HTC 62 but nothing larger. So I guess I could take my RM7000 to the local best buy and place it next to the HTC 62 and see if I can tell a difference. Again $250 is a good deal for a HC 62. After I really measured the CMC2 would never fit.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by FrankTR View Post

After I really measured the CMC2 would never fit.

Since I've been in this hobby, I never let my furniture or equipment stands determine or even influence my choice of equipment. Compromising on sound due to "fit" just doesn't sit well with me.

I love your selection of towers, I've demoed them myself, and though I was more impressed with the CM9's, the 683 were awesome speakers.

I can tell you right now, the CMC2 is must have over the HTM61 you're considering. The clarity and detail it brings to the table over the other one night and day. Do yourself some sonic justice and MAKE the C2 fit.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Since I've been in this hobby, I never let my furniture or equipment stands determine or even influence my choice of equipment. Compromising on sound due to "fit" just doesn't sit well with me.
I love your selection of towers, I've demoed them myself, and though I was more impressed with the CM9's, the 683 were awesome speakers.
I can tell you right now, the CMC2 is must have over the HTM61 you're considering. The clarity and detail it brings to the table over the other one night and day. Do yourself some sonic justice and MAKE the C2 fit.

I really use the speakers 683 and sourronds for movies. I place the center speaker under my screen on a stand that I can use only while watching a movie ( Wife's Rules), and move it, to under the TV for just watching TV. The screen is centered in the room and the 683 are on either side of the screen. The TV is off to the left side and that is where I have limited space.. Maybe a stubid idea but get the better center channel and place it under the screen for movies and conect the center speaker wire to it each time. But is it really that much better than the HTC62 for movies, I mean it is almost 4X the price.
post #16 of 19
The CMC2 really is that much better than the HTM62. Unfortunately, it is quite a bit more expensive. I've never really understood B&W's pricing scheme as there is a significant difference in price between the 600 series and the CM series with no options in between.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by FrankTR View Post

Maybe a stubid idea but get the better center channel and place it under the screen for movies and conect the center speaker wire to it each time. But is it really that much better than the HTC62 for movies, I mean it is almost 4X the price.

Using banana plugs make it a snap.

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Originally Posted by postrokfan View Post

The CMC2 really is that much better than the HTM62.

I agree. When I demoed the HTM62, it sounded really good but, it had no off axis listening, you had to be in the sweet spot. The CMC2 not only had good off axis listening, the depth and clarity were amazing. I was very aware of the acoustic guitar that was playing, I mean VERY aware smile.gif
post #18 of 19
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I wanted to open the discussion on the center speaker selection again. Since my last post a year ago I did purchase a B and W HTM 62 and it is just is not enough. As stated I have B and W 683 as my left and rights and have been looking at the following on ebay and would like some input.

The first one is a B and W CM Center Nautilus Used $426 I am not sure what this speaker really is? Maybe it was before the CMC2 any input on this?

The Second is a B and W Nautilus HTM2 Center Speaker Used for $800, and the final one

B and W CMC2GB CMC2 new $1050. i know sevral said this is the way to go when we had the discussion a year ago. I did not wnat to spend the money than and still having a hard time when there are choices listed above or maybe they are not good choices? i welcome any and all input . Thanks
post #19 of 19
If I had to choose between B&W vs. Polk, I would choose B&W. biggrin.gif

If I had more options, I would also look at KEF & Revel.
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