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post #31 of 351
That is weird... again, just make sure the device is formatted as FAT32 on your computer first and that file is in a folder called LG_DTV, other than that I'm not sure...

Edit: Cool, glad that worked for you... I linked to the US site right in my post. smile.gif
post #32 of 351
Just to kickstart this thread, does anyone else agree that it looks like "trumotion" probably is enabled but is simply set at low with no adjustment available? I do notice a very small amount of "Soap Opera Effect" (we need a new name for it)...
post #33 of 351
@Danbfree
I honestly can't tell the difference between a normal 60hz LED TV and my 47LM4600. It looks to me like TruMotion isn't enabled anywhere.

Edit: Although I haven't updated the firmware yet. I'll do that tonight after work and report back.
post #34 of 351
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Originally Posted by gskellig View Post

@Danbfree
I honestly can't tell the difference between a normal 60hz LED TV and my 47LM4600. It looks to me like TruMotion isn't enabled anywhere.
Edit: Although I haven't updated the firmware yet. I'll do that tonight after work and report back.

Thanks for the feedback, honestly, I might have started noticing the difference after the firmware update...
post #35 of 351
Does this tv support ARC? I can't find anything about it in the manual.
post #36 of 351
fyi, the 55" of this tv 55LM4600 is on sale on walmart.com for $799. i'm thinking about taking back my 55LS4500 and purchasing this one cause it has 3D.
post #37 of 351
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Originally Posted by brg606 View Post

fyi, the 55" of this tv 55LM4600 is on sale on walmart.com for $799. i'm thinking about taking back my 55LS4500 and purchasing this one cause it has 3D.

Fry's has for the same price too... but the thing is the 47" was only $549 so not sure I want to pay $250 for one size bigger... It's been less than a week since I got the 47" so it's still tempting...
post #38 of 351
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Originally Posted by brg606 View Post

fyi, the 55" of this tv 55LM4600 is on sale on walmart.com for $799. i'm thinking about taking back my 55LS4500 and purchasing this one cause it has 3D.

yup .... I got mine for $799 yesterday had sears price match it
post #39 of 351
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Originally Posted by fatboypup View Post

yup .... I got mine for $799 yesterday had sears price match it
sears and best buy are still selling it for like $950
post #40 of 351
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Originally Posted by fatboypup View Post

sears and best buy are still selling it for like $950

fatboypup, how's the 3d? wonder if it's worth the hassel of taking my 2d set back to wallyworld. does it have the exact same panel (less 3d) as 55LS4500, because i've very pleased with the picture on my set.
post #41 of 351
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Originally Posted by takwai View Post

Does this tv support ARC? I can't find anything about it in the manual.

You are the 2nd person to mentions this, can anyone explain what ARC is?
post #42 of 351
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Originally Posted by brg606 View Post

fatboypup, how's the 3d? wonder if it's worth the hassel of taking my 2d set back to wallyworld. does it have the exact same panel (less 3d) as 55LS4500, because i've very pleased with the picture on my set.

I am pretty sure it is... The 3D is done at a chip level while the panel should be exactly the same... it is definitely a gorgeous IPS panel for the money!
post #43 of 351
Well. Since I don't see anyone posting their calibrated specs here, I guess I'll start this off.

Calibrated using the WOW disc in a perfectly dark room with no artificial lighting. I've only done this on 2 modes that I'm interested in at the moment. And those are the Game and the Expert 1 settings using the PS3 as the Blu-ray player.

Game: Expert 1 setting:

Backlight 30 60 70
Contrast 93 93 94
Brightness 57 58 55
Sharpness 55 55 55
55
Color 51 52 52
Tint R2 0 0
Gamma Med Med Med
Black Level Low Low Low
Everything else is off for all mode. Warm for Expert 1

I have to say that I was very disappointed with the video quality in Game mode after calibrating with the WOW disc. Colors were muted, the image seems a bit washout, and the over-all picture was just dark. Doubling the backlight did not help at all.

With the Expert 1 setting, I re-calibrated using the WoW disc after going through all and choosing my preferences for all the questions, going with the middle options within the TV's calibration settings. On Warm, the image and color seem a bit better, but the picture is still muted with not enough range or depth in color and is still a bit washout as if there was a lack of contrast.

The saving grace in all of this, surprisingly, was the Intelligent mode. The color was brilliant and spot on to my eyes, if I was being honest. The sky is a perfect blue sky with the right white clouds. Very authentic to my eyes. The contrast/black level was just perfect. The picture started to dim at first in this mode until I went into the Energy Saving option (Auto by default), and set the minimum illumination to its maximum setting of 50. I admit that there were some distortion of edges since the option to change the sharpness was greyed out, other than that I couldn't have been happier with the over-all quality of the Black Ops 2 Nuketown's authenticity of colors.

I wanted to play games in the Game mode settings to prevent any input lag, but I just couldn't get the colors right no matter what I attempted to do. And worrying about the same input lag issues, I turned off all the digital enhancements within the Intelligent mode options. Still testing Black Ops 2 out on the Intelligent mode for input lag, and I'll report back if there are any. I would love to see more people here sharing their specs if they are happy with their calibrations. I will calibrate the TV's Cinema mode tonight using the WoW disc, but in general I don't like watching movies in the Cinema mode for it's too dark of a picture, and this TV was purchased mainly for watching 3D movies, which are darker as they are to begin with. Cheers!
Edited by investor27 - 12/14/12 at 2:15pm
post #44 of 351
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Originally Posted by brg606 View Post

fatboypup, how's the 3d? wonder if it's worth the hassel of taking my 2d set back to wallyworld. does it have the exact same panel (less 3d) as 55LS4500, because i've very pleased with the picture on my set.
i havent wall mounted the set yet (will tonight) but looking at it sitting on the base on the floor it seems there is a "sweet spot" its my first 3dtv so I really cant tell how good it is .. but for the price I had to have it.
post #45 of 351
Thanks for the calibration settings... Quite honestly, I was very happy simply using the Picture Wizard II calibration, saving those settings as Expert I and then leaving the powersave on Auto. That seems to use the sensor nicely to automatically adjust brightness and/or backlighting (not sure which) based on ambient. "Game" mode seems best for pitch black ambient but does seem washed out. With your settings, I think I will try them on Expert II and see how that works.
post #46 of 351
Hi all, I am new to this forum and just got this TV yesterday. Does anyone know how to play RMVB files on this TV? I was able to play MKV, AVI and DVD VOB files via my portable hard drive through USB slot and wondering if there is any trick to play RMVB files via usb as well? I googled this model with rmvb and it seems like it should support RMVB format. Anyone can shed some light? Thanks in advance.
Edited by dadainus - 12/14/12 at 1:33pm
post #47 of 351
Can the Picture Wizard II save under Expert II? I wanted to try different choices, but it keeps saving under Expert I. I'm going to try your Powersave on Auto idea for the Game mode to see if that would improve the picture quality any. I had to crank up the color setting on Game mode from 52 to 60-65 to get better results while playing games. Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by danbfree View Post

Thanks for the calibration settings... Quite honestly, I was very happy simply using the Picture Wizard II calibration, saving those settings as Expert I and then leaving the powersave on Auto. That seems to use the sensor nicely to automatically adjust brightness and/or backlighting (not sure which) based on ambient. "Game" mode seems best for pitch black ambient but does seem washed out. With your settings, I think I will try them on Expert II and see how that works.
post #48 of 351
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Originally Posted by investor27 View Post

Can the Picture Wizard II save under Expert II? I wanted to try different choices, but it keeps saving under Expert I.

You're right, I'm not sure how to save to Expert II... Oh well.
post #49 of 351
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Originally Posted by investor27 View Post

I wanted to play games in the Game mode settings to prevent any input lag, but I just couldn't get the colors right no matter what I attempted to do. And worrying about the same input lag issues, I turned off all the digital enhancements within the Intelligent mode options. Still testing Black Ops 2 out on the Intelligent mode for input lag, and I'll report back if there are any.

Any news to report about the input lag?
post #50 of 351
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Originally Posted by takwai View Post

Does this tv support ARC? I can't find anything about it in the manual.

It absolutely does.
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Originally Posted by danbfree View Post

You are the 2nd person to mentions this, can anyone explain what ARC is?
Audio Return Channel, it basically lets you use your TV to pass the signal to the receiver. Plug all your sources with hdmi into the TV, run a single optical audio cable to the receiver and voila, switch to the optical audio cable input on your receiver, now all your hdmi sources has surround system audio.
post #51 of 351
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Originally Posted by thund3rcat View Post

Let us know the Calibration numbers when you're done. I just been using the Standard/Vivid and adjusted a few values.

OK. I updated my firmware today to the latest 3.40 via the LG site. Thanks, Dan! I haven't found any of the trumotion settings. The 3.40 firmware update is supposed to enhance 3D playback.

I did however have a chance to calibrate my set. Here are my current specs after calibrating my set with the Disney WOW Blu-Ray on the advanced options.


Expert 2:

Backlight: 75

Contrast: 93

Brightness: 53

H Sharpness: 55

V Sharpness: 65

Color: 55

Tint: G6

Aspect Ratio: Just Scan

Expert Control Menu:

Dynamic Contrast: Medium

Noise Reduction: Off

Digital Noise Reduction: Off

Black level: Low

Real Cinema: ON

Color Gamut: Standard

Edge Enhancer: Off

Color Filter: Off

Color Temp: Medium

Gamma: 2.2

Method 10 Point IRE

Pattern: Outer

IRE: 100

Luminance: 175


If you have any questions or suggestions please let me know. I have tested a few blu-rays and they all look great! The "Standard" setting looks good on default, but it fails many of the calibration tests given on the WOW Blu-Ray, especially the color. I hope this helps. Let me know if you find these settings suitable for you. I will keep reporting back if I tweak anything. (Also, most of the expert control settings I used are from some of the recommendations shared here on AVS from LG owners with similar LEDs. The calibration disc is mostly for the common settings such as; color,contrast, brightness, and sharpness.)
post #52 of 351
Thanks for the info! I've been trying a good setting for my PS3 and this looks great, much better than what I can come up with. (Make sure you have your input set to blu-ray or something else that doesn't use LG preset value like Game.) I don't play FPS, but so far the input lag seems fine. I will try these settings with my PC and TV shows the coming day. But my main complaint so far was PS3, that issue has now been resolved.

For PS3 games, I also have the PS3 RGB Full Range on Full from the PS3 Display menu. Colors seem to look darker and better for me. You can read more info on that here.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1358743/ps3-rgb-full-range-full-or-limited
Edited by thund3rcat - 12/15/12 at 3:48am
post #53 of 351
Thanks Desz. I have been playing with it for a couple weeks now using only the "setup" that comes on the Disney blu rays and did not use any of the advanced features.
Mine were:
Backlight 60
Contrast 96
Brightness 53
Sharpness (Both) 50
Color 55
Tint 0
Aspect Ratio Just Scan.
Gamma Low
Black Level Low
Eye Care Off
Color Gamut Wide

Going to play with your numbers to see how if they work better for me.

The wife loves the pic on my settings for color, but I also want more pop for the 3D.
post #54 of 351
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Originally Posted by Desz View Post

OK. I updated my firmware today to the latest 3.40 via the LG site. Thanks, Dan! I haven't found any of the trumotion settings. The 3.40 firmware update is supposed to enhance 3D playback.
I did however have a chance to calibrate my set. Here are my current specs after calibrating my set with the Disney WOW Blu-Ray on the advanced options.
Expert 2:
Backlight: 75
Contrast: 93
Brightness: 53
H Sharpness: 55
V Sharpness: 65
Color: 55
Tint: G6
Aspect Ratio: Just Scan
Expert Control Menu:
Dynamic Contrast: Medium
Noise Reduction: Off
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Black level: Low
Real Cinema: ON
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Color Temp: Medium
Gamma: 2.2
Method 10 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 100
Luminance: 175
If you have any questions or suggestions please let me know. I have tested a few blu-rays and they all look great! The "Standard" setting looks good on default, but it fails many of the calibration tests given on the WOW Blu-Ray, especially the color. I hope this helps. Let me know if you find these settings suitable for you. I will keep reporting back if I tweak anything. (Also, most of the expert control settings I used are from some of the recommendations shared here on AVS from LG owners with similar LEDs. The calibration disc is mostly for the common settings such as; color,contrast, brightness, and sharpness.)

So others here on the AVS LG forum didn't have a problem with putting the Dynamic Contrast on Medium? I thought the general consensus was to turn off all digitically enhanced features.
post #55 of 351
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Originally Posted by thund3rcat View Post

It absolutely does.
Audio Return Channel, it basically lets you use your TV to pass the signal to the receiver. Plug all your sources with hdmi into the TV, run a single optical audio cable to the receiver and voila, switch to the optical audio cable input on your receiver, now all your hdmi sources has surround system audio.

Oh jeez, hasn't just about every TV made since HDMI was invented do this? I never would have thought they didn't... like wise you can do the opposite: Modern audio receivers have 3-4 HDMI's in and 1 out to the TV and you switch right on the receiver...

Anyway, computer did a weird stretch picture on HDMI 3, had to move to HDMI 2... Just in case anyone has any similar issues, try HDMI 2.
post #56 of 351
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Originally Posted by danbfree View Post

Oh jeez, hasn't just about every TV made since HDMI was invented do this? I never would have thought they didn't... like wise you can do the opposite: Modern audio receivers have 3-4 HDMI's in and 1 out to the TV and you switch right on the receiver...
Anyway, computer did a weird stretch picture on HDMI 3, had to move to HDMI 2... Just in case anyone has any similar issues, try HDMI 2.

Nope, older hdmi TV can't. You would have to plug them all into your receiver and run it the old fashion. There is actually a big benefit with ARC for folks using 3D technology because your older receiver might not have HDMI ports or it does but not 3D compatible. Just less clutter overall, and don't have to control your receiver when you switch sources.
post #57 of 351
I was thinking the same thing ive been running tvs like that for years multiple inputs and optical out to the receiver never knew it was anything special
post #58 of 351
The point of ARC is you don't need the optical cable if the hdmi has arc.
post #59 of 351
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Originally Posted by LSG_Da_Bears View Post

Thanks Desz. I have been playing with it for a couple weeks now using only the "setup" that comes on the Disney blu rays and did not use any of the advanced features.
Mine were:
Backlight 60
Contrast 96
Brightness 53
Sharpness (Both) 50
Color 55
Tint 0
Aspect Ratio Just Scan.
Gamma Low
Black Level Low
Eye Care Off
Color Gamut Wide
Going to play with your numbers to see how if they work better for me.
The wife loves the pic on my settings for color, but I also want more pop for the 3D.

Interesting, we have very similar settings. Is there a particular reason you set Color Gaumet to Wide?
post #60 of 351
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Originally Posted by investor27 View Post

So others here on the AVS LG forum didn't have a problem with putting the Dynamic Contrast on Medium? I thought the general consensus was to turn off all digitically enhanced features.

You know that "perfect image" you found from the intelligent sensor setting? Using the dynamic contrast on medium was the only way to get Expert II to look as close as possible to the perfect picture of Intelligent sensor. IMO anyway. I'm still playing around with the other modes.
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