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post #511 of 717
I still haven't received the firmware update. Still on 2.30.390. Seems weird they didn't add a simple "check for update" function. I tried turning the set on and off a bunch of times with no success.
post #512 of 717
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Originally Posted by myapplebuddy View Post

I still haven't received the firmware update. Still on 2.30.390. Seems weird they didn't add a simple "check for update" function. I tried turning the set on and off a bunch of times with no success.

Funny, I haven't recieved the firmware yet but I'm on 2.31.447

Myapplebuddy,

I haven't tried your new settings yet but I feel like all of this noise reduction, smoothness, adaptive luma etc... is just an attempt to mask the defects that come from crappy cable feeds. I pretty much turn it all off because I prefer the raw feed with it's defects to an over-processed band-aid. A little color enhancement (Normal mode) is the only processing I currently have on and even that produces very slight oversaturation, but I prefer the slight oversat to the dull color. Of course the oversat or dull color are so slight that depending on what I'm watching I could easily flip flop on this.

I think that even with the best display in the world I would set the color to the brink of oversaturation and then complain about color level vs. clarity. It's just what you do when trying to maximize your picture.
post #513 of 717
So it turns out the mother board is off , thus recessing the port enough to where the plug will not engage. Vizio is sending a tech out to replace the motherboard, I hope its not re-certified.
post #514 of 717
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Originally Posted by Tcrebbs View Post

I just hung the television yesterday with the Cheetah mounts APTMM2B. It was $27.99 on Amazon with free shipping and includes all the necessary hardware. The mount seems very sturdy and meets my needs

How was the profile of 1.3"? Did you have trouble managing wires? I am debating if I should get this wall mount or a Sanus Systems VMPL50A-B1
post #515 of 717
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Originally Posted by willndmb View Post

I need new cables for this tv but before I order....
1 - Can I have the tv hooked up wireless to my Internet AND use a hdmi Ethernet cable to connect my Sony bluray player?
I have never used the Internet part of the bluray because it has to be wired, there is no wireless feature build it
2 - are eBay cables http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-FT-High-Speed-1-4-HDMI-Ethernet-M-M-3D-Cable-2160p-HDTV-PS3-xBox-DVD-M-M-10FT-/140769387431?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item20c68263a7 worth the risk? I can get three for $8 shipped vs monoprice http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10250&cs_id=1025008&p_id=6106&seq=1&format=2#description for 22 plus
3 - are the "general" hdmi cables ok for going from TiVo/cable box, bluray, and surround sound/DVD/radio/USB device?
Monoprice has a video saying its not a good idea to use for audio receivers and I have no idea what to buy
Tia
could really use a point in the right direction please

Mostly concerned with what cable will be best from running from TiVo > tv
And
Surround/DVD > tv

Monoprices video says some are not good for going to/from audio receivers but doesn't say what is good
Tia

Edit - found this thread which helps a lot http://www.avsforum.com/t/1424098/which-hdmi-cable-do-i-need-to-buy-from-monoprice#post_22711835
Other opinions/input is still appreciated
Edited by willndmb - 12/16/12 at 3:38pm
post #516 of 717
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Originally Posted by rockinbboy View Post

How was the profile of 1.3"? Did you have trouble managing wires? I am debating if I should get this wall mount or a Sanus Systems VMPL50A-B1
It definitely sits very firmly against the wall. The cables have to be attached before it was hung. As far as managing the cables, I only have one hdmi and the optical cable and was able to have them come through the gap in the middle. Getting it hung and the cables attached will require three people.
post #517 of 717
Just picked up my M650 at costco for 1298. I hated to pay more then what others paid on BF, but it was still the cheapest 65 inch.

I have a 47in vizio so I love all the features and such... BUT my only issue with this new set is the black level performance. It is way off from the 47 inch that now is in the bedroom.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for an improved black level? Most recently I was watching "Taken", and there is a scene near the end when Liam is in a dark room behind a man wearing a black suit, it looked terrible - Like the brightness was way too high. I went to the 47inch and played it (TIVO), and it looked good.
post #518 of 717
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Originally Posted by Soliz View Post

I was in line at sams at 1am on black Friday and was able to get the last ticket for one im thinking of getting the 3 yr plan at sams or should i get the one directly from square trade.
I have it all set up im just trying to figure out if i want to mount it on my wall or not it looks so big and not sure if the wall mount would hold it up.
Anyone have an idea of a good wall mount.
I love the TV so far. I also got a sound bar and it works great. anyone have any ideas of which is the best way to hook it up.
Samsung - 2.1-Channel Home Theater Soundbar System with Wireless Subwoofer
Model: HW-E450ZA
I need some advice on how to hook up all my stuff to this tv.
PS3
XBOX 360
CABLE BOX
WII
SOUNDBAR

Well i figure out how to set it all up and its working out great. i mounted the tv on the wall with a wall mount from Costco full motion slim profile one. i mounted the sound bar under it and it all looks great. I also bought the vizio webcam its works great with skype.
now for the setup.

I have the xbox,ps3, cable box wii, hooked up to the tv and the sound bar hooked up to the tv with an optical connection. the only issue i have is i wish i had one more hdmi connection for my laptop when i stream movies and stuff. i just disconnect the hdmi from my xbox and connect it to my laptop.

I love my TV so far.
I just have one question is there a way turn the auto dimming function off?

excuse the mess lol.

post #519 of 717
@ willndmb: use an opticle cable to push the audio to a surround sound system if you are worried about the audio from an HDMI. You just dropped $1K on a TV, a $12 cable is not going to break the bank and it is worth it.

@ Soliz
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I just have one question is there a way turn the auto dimming function off?

Yes, there is a place in the menu to turn off the auto dimming function. I am not infront of my TV, but I believe it is in the advance settings menu. Not to hard to find.

Sam's has a nice wall mount for $89 that lets the TV tilt and rotate left to right. It looks very nice, but I am not fully convinced of its stability. Has anyone tried this with the Vizio or a comprable large TV. Thanks.
post #520 of 717
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Originally Posted by CajunSuperJeff View Post

@ willndmb: use an opticle cable to push the audio to a surround sound system if you are worried about the audio from an HDMI. You just dropped $1K on a TV, a $12 cable is not going to break the bank and it is worth it. .
good point, thanks
Ordered optical and hdmi cables today
My mount came today
New shelving unit for boxes is in
Can't wait to get this set up on Christmas
post #521 of 717
Just watched Prometheus on blu-ray. It looked and sounded amazing. I have my Comcast cable box and blu-ray player hooked up to my yahama receiver(with ARC support) via hdmi and a single hdmi out going to the tv.

Speakers are:
Monitor 60 Series II fronts
Monitor 50 series II rears
CS1 center channel
Bic f12 sub crossed over at 80hz
All the speakers are set to small

It's honestly like I'm at the movies.

To comment on input lag again. My Xbox 360 has no HDMI so I had to use VGA to the vizio with optical going to the receiver. Game mode on under settings. There is very very little lag. I was playing black ops 2 and was actually playing the best I have played in a while. My friend who was playing with me didn't notice any lag.
post #522 of 717
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Originally Posted by Ben Troxell View Post

Just watched Prometheus on blu-ray. It looked and sounded amazing. I have my Comcast cable box and blu-ray player hooked up to my yahama receiver(with ARC support) via hdmi and a single hdmi out going to the tv.

Speakers are:
Monitor 60 Series II fronts
Monitor 50 series II rears
CS1 center channel
Bic f12 sub crossed over at 80hz
All the speakers are set to small

It's honestly like I'm at the movies.

To comment on input lag again. My Xbox 360 has no HDMI so I had to use VGA to the vizio with optical going to the receiver. Game mode on under settings. There is very very little lag. I was playing black ops 2 and was actually playing the best I have played in a while. My friend who was playing with me didn't notice any lag.
post #523 of 717
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Originally Posted by Ben Troxell View Post

Just watched Prometheus on blu-ray. It looked and sounded amazing. I have my Comcast cable box and blu-ray player hooked up to my yahama receiver(with ARC support) via hdmi and a single hdmi out going to the tv.

Speakers are:
Monitor 60 Series II fronts
Monitor 50 series II rears
CS1 center channel
Bic f12 sub crossed over at 80hz
All the speakers are set to small

It's honestly like I'm at the movies.

To comment on input lag again. My Xbox 360 has no HDMI so I had to use VGA to the vizio with optical going to the receiver. Game mode on under settings. There is very very little lag. I was playing black ops 2 and was actually playing the best I have played in a while. My friend who was playing with me didn't notice any lag.
post #524 of 717
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Originally Posted by imonarock View Post

Quick question on this set.. I am having an issue with the Optical audio out (toslink) connection. I am unable to get a the plug to click in place. I line it up and push it through the swinging door on the port and it just falls back out. The clear dust cover on the end of the cable has been removed. It almost seems like the round housing of the cable is hitting the plastic on the back of the TV and preventing it from inserting all the way. I have tried two cables with the same issue. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,

I had this same problem because the roundness of the optical cable would not fit snug. Mine actually would not click in at first because of the thickness of the plastic on the plug.
I took a sharp knife and sliced and carved and shaved the plastic back on the optical plug and then plugged it right back in. It clicked and fit within the TV terminal area and would not come out. I hope this helps!
post #525 of 717
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Originally Posted by briandaniella View Post

I had this same problem because the roundness of the optical cable would not fit snug. Mine actually would not click in at first because of the thickness of the plastic on the plug.
I took a sharp knife and sliced and carved and shaved the plastic back on the optical plug and then plugged it right back in. It clicked and fit within the TV terminal area and would not come out. I hope this helps!

Essentially what I was trying to say was by carving it back to make the cable a smaller radius to fit in there and you are good.
It will not affect the performance at all as long as you dont' go over board and cut the wire. You will not see the wire behind the tv problem solved.
post #526 of 717
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Originally Posted by willndmb View Post

good point, thanks
Ordered optical and hdmi cables today
My mount came today
New shelving unit for boxes is in
Can't wait to get this set up on Christmas

I think I paid $4 bucks for a 15' optical at Monoprice.com so even better.
post #527 of 717
Will the Vizio 40 in sound bar work with having it on the stand? I will have it on the stand until I move out of my apartment and into my new place this next summer. I am finally receiving this TV after dealing with the SAMs fiasco. I will update my message when I actually get the TV.
post #528 of 717
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

They are insisting on replacing mine as well. I ordered online for BF from Sams. I've gathered more information and it seems the interface is completely unusable for an indeterminate amount of time at power on, presumably while it's loading all the bloatware into memory. That includes remote recognition for volume, ... If using CEC, it takes a few moments to first get a picture on the screen, then sound through the TV's speakers, then about 5-10 seconds until it send the signal to the receiver to power up, and then about 15-90 seconds until it signals the receiver to switch to TV input incorrectly. At THAT moment, the TV will respond to the remote.
IMHO it's poorly designed firmware and too much bloatware for an under powered processor. Other than that, it's awesome smile.gif I think they can fix this as it was similar when I first got my M550NV set. New firmware fixed the issues. I'd like to be able to disable or at least select/reduce the number of "apps" I will NEVER use.

Well I got my replacement today and guess what. Performs exactly the same. CEC switches the receiver to TV after about 30-60 seconds. HOWEVER, even though the firmware is the same, 2.31.447, I noticed the LDT in the info screen is Dec 8 as opposed to Jan 1 1970 (unix time = 0). Also, I think the responsiveness after startup is WORSE and for longer, if you can believe that.

PLEASE VIZIO, get someone on this firmware ASAP. My 90 days to return this to Sams is as long as I plan to wait. Almost 30 are gone!!!!
post #529 of 717
does anyone know what video formats this tv accepts? As far as i know, it has only read .avi video files.
post #530 of 717
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does anyone know what video formats this tv accepts? As far as i know, it has only read .avi video files.

I have some MP4 files it read just fine. They have to be small files to fit on a FAT32 formated USB drive. Small meaning a little over 4GB is the max size. Most HD moives in MP4 format are bigger than that.
post #531 of 717
We got this tv thru amazon for 1398. The price seems fair but we are having issues with banding. It isn't noticeable all the time but it can be distracting. We are trying to decide if we should replace with same model or try a different brand or model.

How many others are having banding problems with this tv? It would be terrible to ship another tv only to have the same problem. I wish we had a local store where we could see a tv before buying.
post #532 of 717
Read back through the thread a bit and try some of the settings people (including myself) have posted and see if that helps. Also, I improved the banding on my set by rubbing the screen with a microfiber cloth. I posted a "how to" in this thread a ways back for that too. Good luck.
post #533 of 717
I'm back to ground zero with my TV going out for a couple of seconds and coming back on with the audio fully intact at the most random times of the day/night. Vizio doesn't know what the issue is and are replacing the TV entirely. Quite pissed to have to demount a 95lb TV 6 feet off the ground.
post #534 of 717
Is no one else using CEC with this set? Would like to know if others are having issues as well.....
post #535 of 717
I just noticed a dead pixel on my set. I got this set on black Friday from bj's. Should i return/exchange the tv to bj's or make a warranty claim
post #536 of 717
Quote:
Read back through the thread a bit and try some of the settings people (including myself) have posted and see if that helps. Also, I improved the banding on my set by rubbing the screen with a microfiber cloth. I posted a "how to" in this thread a ways back for that too. Good luck.


I had already read all the posts and tried the cloth and settings. No improvement. The cloth trick will not change banding, that is a manufacture defect in the panel and cant be fixed. I think only ONE person in this thread claims to have no banding so I should have phrased the question differently:

Does anyone own one of these tvs that does NOT have any banding problems?

We are definitely returning ours to Amazon. We decided to return the tv since the picture quality is worse than our 9 year old rear projection Mitsubishi 1080i that we replaced. This new tv does have a better picture with still shots, but with any motion shots it is awful. For example, 4-6 inch wide vertical bars (these are shadows or changes in brightness and are difficult to describe, but if you have them you will know it) are noticeable on nearly every football scene. We would consider buying the same model again say at the local Walmart but if all of them have this banding problem, then we don't want to waste our time.

Its hard to believe so many people like this tv with the bad picture quality so maybe we just got a bad unit with excessive banding.
Edited by Tuco314 - 12/23/12 at 12:15pm
post #537 of 717
No banding issues here. Have had the TV for about 6 weeks. I actually had to do a search in order to understand what banding is. TV is a great deal for the price.
post #538 of 717
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

Is no one else using CEC with this set? Would like to know if others are having issues as well.....

There are at least a couple of us that are having issues with it turning off the receiver and switching the receiver input after turning on the TV. I am using a Pioneer 1020.

I did have it connected via WiFi and I disabled that and it that has kept the TV from turning off the receiver. I have heard that the new firmware helps, but I don't know how to force the check for update.
post #539 of 717
Did a chat with Vizio about the Firmware check:
There is zero manual interaction and supposed to update in 48 hours.

Aaden: Thank you for contacting VIZIO Live Chat, the home of Entertainment Freedom for All. This is Aaden in South Dakota. Have you ever contacted us before?
Aaden: I see you have questions about an update on a TV.
K_Rock: how can I force a firmware check?
Aaden: There really is no way to force an update.
K_Rock: Reall?
Aaden: It would have to be connected and be allowed to update on its own.
K_Rock: So how long does it have to be connected before it will update 'on its own.'
K_Rock: How does it know that there is an update?
Aaden: It could take up to 48 hours to update.
K_Rock: So If I connect it now, it should be update by Christmas?
K_Rock: 48 hours of painfully dealing with the TV
Aaden: Yes it should update within 48 hours.
K_Rock: I can't download the firmware and put it on a USB stick in a certain folder that the TV will check automatically when first turning on?
K_Rock: If a technician comes out to look at a TV, they don't have a way to force a firmware update?
K_Rock: you are honestly telling me that you designed a product that cannot be manually updated?
K_Rock: ?
Aaden: Unfortunately there is no way to update it with a USB drive. We will need you to connect it to your internet to allow it to update normally.
K_Rock: ok, so then I guess if its not updated by Wednesday, then i start a chat session again?
Aaden: Yes you can do that or call 877-878-4946 for assistance.
K_Rock: ok, have a good holiday
post #540 of 717
Mine has very minor banding but I only notice it on solid backgrounds and even then it's not bad. I'm very picky about image quality and its not even close to being bad enough to return the set on mine. With the current settings I'm using I'm very happy with the image quality too. Out of the box I hated the image and was ready to return the set. I'm glad I got it looking good cause for the money it's a great TV. It sounds like you may have a badly manufactured set though - I'm watching football right now and notice no banding at all even if I'm looking for it.
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