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post #571 of 698
1/3/13 at 5:46pm
I tried to use the dish remote and no go. This remote worked with the first tv so I'm pretty sure the tv is the problem. Vizio won't send repair tech or replacement until after we test the second remote. Since the picture looks good on this one I think we will go with the repair. Don't want to take a chance on getting a bad screen. Does anyone know what they would do to fix the tv ?
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post #572 of 698
1/3/13 at 7:29pm
Ok, finally mounted my TV during the holidays! I am quite happy with this tv. I ended up going with the Sanus Systems VMPL50A-B1 mount. I give it 4 out of 5 stars. Designed for up to 70", but the tools to give you for the tilt are useless when the TV is on the mount. I had to take the TV off a few times to adjust and even then, it didn't look right when I put it on the wall. I had to push down firmly on the tv to get the angle I wanted and then it remained fixed. The instructions did not talk about this at all..so I am not sure what I did really. Plus, the locking tabs on the bottom are plastic and one of them broke when removing the TV off the mount. I switched it out with a replacement.

I would still recommend this wall mount in case people are wondering.

Anyways...some pics to share. Sorry, not the greatest photo quality.


Side Profile:


TV Commercial:



College football on TV (couldn't figure out best shutter speed to hide the refresh lines):


TV movie (really like the darks):





Blu-ray:
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post #573 of 698
1/4/13 at 9:59am
Looking good!

Rick
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post #574 of 698
1/4/13 at 3:07pm
VERY diappointed. Recieved new firmware today (3.43.847) and CEC is still BROKE. The TV still tells the receiver to switch inputs after startup. Sad. The other two Vizio CEC capable TVs I've had got FIXED in the first firmware update..... Makes this TV NOT a bargain.
Edited by rakstr - 1/4/13 at 7:47pm
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post #575 of 698
1/6/13 at 2:47pm
I purchased this TV a few days ago from Costco. While I was calibrating the TV, I noticed there are two dead pixels (one while the screen is green, and a different pixel when the screen is blue). Is this a sign of a bigger problem to come, and I should return the set?

Thank you.
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post #576 of 698
1/6/13 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

VERY diappointed. Recieved new firmware today (3.43.847) and CEC is still BROKE. The TV still tells the receiver to switch inputs after startup. Sad. The other two Vizio CEC capable TVs I've had got FIXED in the first firmware update..... Makes this TV NOT a bargain.

I also noticed this, it's very annoying. I had to turn CEC off.
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post #577 of 698
1/6/13 at 6:40pm
I dont think its a sign of a bigger problem. i have dead pixels as well. I think if you start to see more dead pixels then its a bad sign.
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post #578 of 698
1/7/13 at 4:08am
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Originally Posted by scipper77 View Post

I dont think its a sign of a bigger problem. i have dead pixels as well. I think if you start to see more dead pixels then its a bad sign.

I haven't really checked my set. I haven't seen any while just watching the TV. I know if I run the test and find any my eyes will focus on them all the time so I think I'll just continue to enjoy the set. I know I don't have any bright ones, I would have seen them when the screen was totally black. That would bug me.
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post #579 of 698
1/7/13 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

I haven't really checked my set. I haven't seen any while just watching the TV. I know if I run the test and find any my eyes will focus on them all the time so I think I'll just continue to enjoy the set. I know I don't have any bright ones, I would have seen them when the screen was totally black. That would bug me.

I would say that if you can't find them without a test pattern leave it alone.

My first set had one Pixel that showed in red. I could see it from my front row on the netflix startup screen. I returned it and my second set has 6 pixels that show on a green background. Even knowing that they are there I can not see them from the closest seating position so I will live with it (It doesn't bother me because I can't see them even when I look for them). The second set does have worse clouding on a totally black screen!! Mostly coming from the corners like the tips of an "X". Be carefull what you choose to exchange the set over. You might be exchanging one problem for another, these are not top tier Samsungs.
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post #580 of 698
1/7/13 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by scipper77 View Post

I would say that if you can't find them without a test pattern leave it alone.

Be carefull what you choose to exchange the set over. You might be exchanging one problem for another, these are not top tier Samsungs.

Exactly my thoughts.

My only regret is not getting the XVT650 when it was out. It has PIP which I do use and also I have an XVT set in the kitchen. The XVT uses a different processor and now when I have both the sets on I get a bad echo in the sound. My XVT554 was perfectly in sync.
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post #581 of 698
1/7/13 at 1:10pm
Here is what I ended up with. Color enhancement is "normal" which seems to shift colors a bit and you can't get them exact but to me the colors are better for actual viewing with it in normal mode. I'm not sure what they were trying for in "movie" mode but it's pretty lifeless.
Picture Mode: Standard
Backlight: 55
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 52
Color: 48
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 7
Color Temperature: Custom
Red Gain: 49
Green Gain: 51
Blue Gain: 51
Red Offset: 50
Green Offset: 50
Blue Offset: 49
Smooth Motion Effect: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG NR: Low
Color Enhancement: Normal
Adaptive Luma: Off
Film Mode: Auto
Backlight Control: Off
Ambient Light Sensor: Off
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post #582 of 698
1/8/13 at 9:14am
I just wanted to post this in case it helps anybody. Maybe it should be posted somewhere else as well.

I hooked up my 650 with analog cables because that's all I had, luckily I had an adaptor so it went from one jack and split into the red/white to plug into my receiver. It's an old receiver without hdmi. I liked that I could choose variable output and only had to use one remote to control the volume, the cable box remote controlled it thru the tv.

My optical audio cable came today. I don't even know if it's a better way to do audio or not, but I got it cheap. I couldn't get it to do variable output when hooked to the tv, so I hooked it to the cable box. Still not variable, the cable box did not control the volume. Many webpages told me I can only get fixed audio with optical. Well, that stinks. I have too many people who can't handle using a separate remote for volume, or can't grasp choosing the device button on Comcast remote to switch between receiver for volume and back to cable for channel. It often messed me up to because if I started to enter a channel while it was set to receiver, it would change the input setting on the receiver! . I found this page on Comcast forums which explains how to LOCK the volume key on the remote to ONE device. I set it so that the volume button always controls the receiver only and I don't have to switch using the device key. My optical audio is now variable! http://forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-and-Equipment/Control-audio-on-cable-box-instead-of-TV/td-p/1115959

I currently have the optical cable going from the cable box to the receiver. I'm not sure where the DVD is hooked to, but we don't use it much. It's not hdmi either...it's component.

Should I move the optical cable back so it goes from TV to receiver? Then hook the red/white from the dvd also to the tv? Will that work? Or I could just hook red/white to the receiver from the DVD.

I just had a thought as I typed, I guess I will try the optical back on the TV again, otherwise I won't have sound from the apps......

Had TV since a week before Thanksgiving. Still working well. My mom had the E601, after about a month half of her screen dimmed. She returned it and got a Samsung.
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post #583 of 698
1/8/13 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by cinders View Post

I just wanted to post this in case it helps anybody. Maybe it should be posted somewhere else as well.
I hooked up my 650 with analog cables because that's all I had, luckily I had an adaptor so it went from one jack and split into the red/white to plug into my receiver. It's an old receiver without hdmi. I liked that I could choose variable output and only had to use one remote to control the volume, the cable box remote controlled it thru the tv.
My optical audio cable came today. I don't even know if it's a better way to do audio or not, but I got it cheap. I couldn't get it to do variable output when hooked to the tv, so I hooked it to the cable box. Still not variable, the cable box did not control the volume. Many webpages told me I can only get fixed audio with optical. Well, that stinks. I have too many people who can't handle using a separate remote for volume, or can't grasp choosing the device button on Comcast remote to switch between receiver for volume and back to cable for channel. It often messed me up to because if I started to enter a channel while it was set to receiver, it would change the input setting on the receiver! . I found this page on Comcast forums which explains how to LOCK the volume key on the remote to ONE device. I set it so that the volume button always controls the receiver only and I don't have to switch using the device key. My optical audio is now variable! http://forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-and-Equipment/Control-audio-on-cable-box-instead-of-TV/td-p/1115959
I currently have the optical cable going from the cable box to the receiver. I'm not sure where the DVD is hooked to, but we don't use it much. It's not hdmi either...it's component.
Should I move the optical cable back so it goes from TV to receiver? Then hook the red/white from the dvd also to the tv? Will that work? Or I could just hook red/white to the receiver from the DVD.
I just had a thought as I typed, I guess I will try the optical back on the TV again, otherwise I won't have sound from the apps......
Had TV since a week before Thanksgiving. Still working well. My mom had the E601, after about a month half of her screen dimmed. She returned it and got a Samsung.
You're not going to get digital audio unless you go optical straight from your cable box and blu ray player to the receiver. Just buy a new receiver with hdmi and go completely digital. It's definitely worth the cost and will last you years.
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post #584 of 698
1/8/13 at 1:17pm
Until you get newer equipment, I would just use the optical on the source that you plan to use the most and where you want high quality digital sound. If your receiver has more than one optical in, you can just get another cable.
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post #585 of 698
1/8/13 at 1:32pm
Finally after 3 tries we got a working TV! Each of the sets including this third one has some issues with vertical banding/shading. The set on display at the store also has it. I'm convinced that this is a manufacturing issue but affects some lesser than others. Our first set had horrible problems with picture quality, the second one was better but the remote receiver on the TV was defective. This last set we got looks the best and works great. We are glad now that the second one had a bad remote, otherwise we would have kept it.

We are not using the Apps, we use a PS3 for streaming. We rarely use the audio on the TV, but when we do its adequate. Not sure why people complain about the audio, its not that bad and most folks with this size tv would run audio through receiver anyway.
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post #586 of 698
1/8/13 at 3:56pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tuco314 View Post

Finally after 3 tries we got a working TV! Each of the sets including this third one has some issues with vertical banding/shading. The set on display at the store also has it. I'm convinced that this is a manufacturing issue but affects some lesser than others.

Yep still got mine (started this thread a while back) .... I'm on my second TV and the banding is still my Major issue .... my eye just see's more then most I guess. Regular TV watching is not all that bad for the most part ... when some sky scenes etc. etc. come up in shows I can see it but sports is the kicker for this set .... a football field shows banding a lot.

Still on the fence if this thing is going back before the 90 days ... my only issue is I need a TV to replace it and there is nothing out there that the same size around the same price (would have no problem in spending a few hundred bucks more).

Guess we'll see how it goes..... Great TV for the most part and I love everything about it really but the Banding is a huge drawback for me that may lead me to moving elsewhere.
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post #587 of 698
1/8/13 at 5:04pm
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Yep still got mine (started this thread a while back) .... I'm on my second TV and the banding is still my Major issue .... my eye just see's more then most I guess. Regular TV watching is not all that bad for the most part ... when some sky scenes etc. etc. come up in shows I can see it but sports is the kicker for this set .... a football field shows banding a lot.
Still on the fence if this thing is going back before the 90 days ... my only issue is I need a TV to replace it and there is nothing out there that the same size around the same price (would have no problem in spending a few hundred bucks more).
Guess we'll see how it goes..... Great TV for the most part and I love everything about it really but the Banding is a huge drawback for me that may lead me to moving elsewhere.
I am happy with mine, but thought I'd post the engadget write-up link that lists their new Vizio TV's--

I am happy with mine, but there are new Vizio choices. See:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/vizios-ces-2012-hdtv-googletv-ultrawidescreen/

Maybe there is one there that fits you needs.
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post #588 of 698
1/8/13 at 6:18pm
My replacement tv came
Hooked it up and used applebuddy setting
Looks good to me
No noticeable dead pixels, clouding, banding (granted I have only been watching a few minutes)
But looks good so far
Happy

Edit maybe some clouding near the corners
On solid black screens you can see it, tomorrow ill look closer and try the advice of rubbing it
Edited by willndmb - 1/8/13 at 6:56pm
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post #589 of 698
1/9/13 at 11:13am
Does anyone else have issues with Youtube videos that have to buffer constantly. I have a good internet connection but I find that both the Vizio youtube app as well as the Samsung app on my bluray can not play certain videos without constant buffering. If I pause the video the buffer will only preload 10 or 20 seconds worth of video.

I am wondering if the TV has insufficient memory to properly buffer when the connection is less than ideal?
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post #590 of 698
1/9/13 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by scipper77 View Post

Does anyone else have issues with Youtube videos that have to buffer constantly. I have a good internet connection but I find that both the Vizio youtube app as well as the Samsung app on my bluray can not play certain videos without constant buffering. If I pause the video the buffer will only preload 10 or 20 seconds worth of video.
I am wondering if the TV has insufficient memory to properly buffer when the connection is less than ideal?

I tried youtube a month ago and don't remember having trouble. I'll try it again tonight. Any paticular video?

I'm using wired cat6 gigabit network. I haven' t tried wireless.
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post #591 of 698
1/9/13 at 7:11pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gerrygraff View Post

I am happy with mine, but thought I'd post the engadget write-up link that lists their new Vizio TV's--

I am happy with mine, but there are new Vizio choices. See:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/vizios-ces-2012-hdtv-googletv-ultrawidescreen/

Maybe there is one there that fits you needs.

Thanks for the link but these are TV already out or probably not coming out anytime soon ... the one that never surfaced was this R- Series TV.

But the link you posted was from Jan. of 2012

Sure hope something pops up in the next month so I have the option to swap this one out.
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post #592 of 698
1/9/13 at 7:16pm
Thread Starter 
Has there been any recent firmware updates for this TV? I haven't got anything in the last 2 months.

How do you go about updating the firmware if so?
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post #593 of 698
1/10/13 at 4:20am
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How do you go about updating the firmware if so?

When Vizio decides to send it to you over your network. There is no way to manually upgrade/downgrade the firmware. You get it whether you want it or not. if your connected to the internet. Very, very poor design.
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post #594 of 698
1/10/13 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by scipper77 View Post

Does anyone else have issues with Youtube videos that have to buffer constantly. I have a good internet connection but I find that both the Vizio youtube app as well as the Samsung app on my bluray can not play certain videos without constant buffering. If I pause the video the buffer will only preload 10 or 20 seconds worth of video.

I am wondering if the TV has insufficient memory to properly buffer when the connection is less than ideal?

My son was using Youtube to watch "the piano guys" videos for almost an hour the other night and there wasn't any buffering during the videos. The few Netflix movies we have watched so far haven't had any buffering during the shows.

I'm using a relatively inexpensive Vizio dual band HD router that is located up a floor and several rooms over, in the attic.
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post #595 of 698
1/10/13 at 8:58am
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My son was using Youtube to watch "the piano guys" videos for almost an hour the other night and there wasn't any buffering during the videos. The few Netflix movies we have watched so far haven't had any buffering during the shows.

I'm using a relatively inexpensive Vizio dual band HD router that is located up a floor and several rooms over, in the attic.

My kids like to watch "watch me play" videos of people playing New Super Mario Bros U. Yesterday they could watch them and sometimes it would buffer constantly and sometimes it wouldn't. I run through a wireless N network but I did try a direct connection through my gigabit router once and was able to reproduce the stuttering. Because my Youtube app acts the same way on my bluray player I'd guess that the issue is not to do with my tv. It's probably a bandwidth issue from my service provider or from the youtube server that I am trying to stream from. Or possibly it is simply to do with the number of devices that connect to my wireless router at one time.

laptop (G)
2 cell phones (N)
iPod (G)
Bluray (N)
Vizio TV (N)
Nintendo 3DS (G)
And I'm not sure if I hardwired our Wii (I most likely did)

In addition my Onkyo reciever and HTIB system upstairs and maybe the Wii are hardwired to the same router.

The funny thing is that I never have a problem streaming netflix. Also I can stream a stuttering video on my phone with no problems but I'm sure the app on my phone uses a lower bandwidth stream as the screen will only support up to 480 resolution.
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post #596 of 698
1/14/13 at 5:36am
I have a couple of questions for anyone using Netflix

How well does it work as far as HD quality.
How is the movie selection, and do they now have current titles.

I cancelled Netflix a few years ago. The online streaming was very limited and had only old movies available for streaming.

I was thinking of activating my service again. Since I had it in the past I can't take advantage of the free trial and I can't seem to get into browse titles without activating my account.

Thanks.
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post #597 of 698
1/14/13 at 5:40am
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I have a couple of questions for anyone using Netflix

How well does it work as far as HD quality.
How is the movie selection, and do they now have current titles.

I cancelled Netflix a few years ago. The online streaming was very limited and had only old movies available for streaming.

I was thinking of activating my service again. Since I had it in the past I can't take advantage of the free trial and I can't seem to get into browse titles without activating my account.

Thanks.

Picture quality is fantastic. Streams in both HD and 5.1 surround. Selection is still pretty bad. Rare to see a recent release that is also a popular release. Most people I know use netflix primarily for watching tv series like Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Bones, Glee, and so on.

If you want recent titles you would need to get them through the mail in which case we opt to use our local redbox.
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post #598 of 698
1/14/13 at 7:29am
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Picture quality is fantastic. Streams in both HD and 5.1 surround. Selection is still pretty bad. Rare to see a recent release that is also a popular release. Most people I know use netflix primarily for watching tv series like Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Bones, Glee, and so on.

If you want recent titles you would need to get them through the mail in which case we opt to use our local redbox.

Thanks,
That's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll stick with my local Video Store.
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post #599 of 698
1/14/13 at 6:14pm
How is this TV do gaming? Mainly PS3, I have the HTC350 Sony soundbar/sub as my HDMI hub.
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post #600 of 698
1/15/13 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by nighthawk6

fearless - Any update on your issue ? I'm experiencing the same problem.
I brought home the new Vizio this weekend and as soon as I turned it on I setup my wireless connection and my HDMI port. TV came on fine but then remote became unresponsive and the TV controls didnt work. I could bring up some VIA apps via the remote but as soon as hit the OK button nothing happens. Called Vizio and they told me to exchange it. Well, just got back from BJ's with the second TV, plugged it in and the SAME problem!!!! 2 lemons ? ...doubtful.. I'll be on the line with Vizio tomorrow to hopefully work out any software issues....



Did you ever solve this issue? I purchased an M650VSE this weekend and I have the same issue. Tried wireless and wired... both result i locking up the TV. If I don't connect to a network then everything works fine.
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