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does anyone know where to get HDD screws for the 4224?!...i went to install my hard drives and i dont have any

http://www.ipcdirect.net/servlet/Detail?no=211

It comes with them. A big bag. Did you lose them ?

OR

http://www.amazon.com/3-5-mounting-RPC-4224-RPC-4220-RPC-1204/dp/B00DV6OLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375059947&sr=8-1&keywords=norco+screws
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I picked up the card for $50. I don't even need one, I just wanted to try it It was a a bit more complex than flashing a M1015. First off, my trusty computer that I use for flashing won't boot up with the H310. I had to block 2 pins on the PCIe to boot up. Boots up fine on the other computers, but I didn't want to mess with Uefi.

Three step process.

Flash Dell 6Gbps IT with LSI sasflsh (I would have to go back and check what version I used)
Flash LSI P07 IT
Flash P16 IT

Can you provide more details on what you did to get it to boot? I just had a friend contact me who wasn't able to boot his board with the H310 but it's fine with a LSI, IBM and even a H200. I'm wondering if he has a bad card or ran into the same issue as you.
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Can you provide more details on what you did to get it to boot? I just had a friend contact me who wasn't able to boot his board with the H310 but it's fine with a LSI, IBM and even a H200. I'm wondering if he has a bad card or ran into the same issue as you.

Block off pins B5 and B6, they are for SMBus. I booted up fine with the C204 and H55 chipset. It was the G45 chipset that gave me problems.

I sliced off a few pieces of label tape and picked the one that was the right width.


Edited by Andy_Steb - 7/29/13 at 6:09pm
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Achievement Unlocked^

SATA CARD FLASHING WIZARD.
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He is shipping me the card so I'll see if I can reproduce, and fix the issue with your recommendation. How did you come upon that solution?
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In my research on flashing the H200/H310 with Lsi firmware I stumbled on a page about problems with the Perc 5/i having troubles with SMB and Intel chipsets. I figured I would give it a shot before moving to plan B

http://www.overclock.net/t/359025/perc-5-i-raid-card-tips-and-benchmarks
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Are you using that card along side the IBM ?

Results ? Did you need a driver ?
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I tested it in my Win 7 bedroom Htpc. Device manager reports it as a Dell 6Gbps. Windows automatically loaded up LSi drivers. I then downloaded Lsi newest drivers and they loaded without any problems.

I'll try it in my server this weekend. I have ESXi and will pass through to my WSE2012 vm along side my M1015. Truth is I don't need an other HBA right now, What I need is more drives. I have a few 1 TB 7200.12s that have been dropping like flies.
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Thanks for the offer but the ST3000DM001 is my top drive choice at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

Block off pins B5 and B6, they are for SMBus. I booted up fine with the C204 and H55 chipset. It was the G45 chipset that gave me problems.

I sliced off a few pieces of label tape and picked the one that was the right width.
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This was a great find. I got the card in the mail today and I actually found several motherboards that wouldn't boot with the card. I'm surprised I hadn't run into this before. I put a piece of electrical tape over B5 and B6 and it booted right up. One of the boards that it wouldn't boot on was actually my main home media server the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H.
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Glad it worked out for you.

Not a whole lot of info out there on the Dell cards. With the prices on the M1015s going up, these are a great alternative.
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

Glad it worked out for you.

Not a whole lot of info out there on the Dell cards. With the prices on the M1015s going up, these are a great alternative.

Should I grab one instead of an IBM ? I need one .
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Are you using that card along side the IBM ?

Results ? Did you need a driver ?

I went ahead and put it in tonight.

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Your my resident card flasher here in my thread biggrin.gif I'll take your advice. I have filled all of my sata ports and bays on my NORCO and my IBM card, and also the motherboard ports. I need another 8 port card to get me all 20 bays on my server (I have 12 now full )

IBM I am comfortable with IBM only because I am familiar with it already (thanks to you biggrin.gif ) Obviously I am not scared to flash or try, or even tape over pins on a sata card. I am also a cheap bastard. eek.gif But I am also willing to spend the money on the IBM too, and I have nothing I know about the DELL card. Aware me SATA CARD FLASHING MASTER tongue.gif What should I do ?
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I'll sell you this Dell card cheap
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I'll sell you this Dell card cheap

PM incoming
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1. http://wiki.flexraid.com/2011/04/15/quick-validate-vs-validate/

2. Scheduled entries cannot be edited. It is just much simpler to delete them and create new ones.

3. There is no documented typical scheduling because it all depends on your usage pattern.

Quick-Validate: Reports changes in your array. You can manually run it once here and there to check for changes, but no point in scheduling it.
I mean, changes in your array are expected.

Update: you run it as often as you need to (based on how often data is being changed in your array). You could run it every hour or once a day or once week. It is up to you to decide.
I also recommend running the Update task right after big data changes rather than waiting for the scheduled operation to trigger.

Validate: I run it once a week to detect datarot. You could run it once a month or any other frequency. It all depends on your level of paranoia. Make sure it runs only after an Update operation has run.

Verify: I run it once a month. Again, the frequency here is driven by your level of paranoia. Make sure it runs only after an Update operation has run.

Validate and Verify do the same thing but take a different approach in doing it.
Validate was designed to replace Verify as it runs faster and detects datarot whereas Verify just does bit for bit verification.

If you want more power, check out the FlexRAID Expression Language: http://wiki.flexraid.com/2011/06/02/the-flexraid-expression-language/

This topic is reminding me to add a task that automatically syncs the RAID first before executing Validate/Verify.
Made notes to Mantis: http://bug.flexraid.com/view.php?id=299



Did he ever do the update to add a task that automatically syncs the RAID first before executing VALIDATE/VERIFY ???
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I purchased the Dell card from Andy and I am excited to try it out and report back. I am hoping it works well with my IBM I flashed to give me another 8 full speed sata3 ports. This should complete all 20 bays on my Norco. biggrin.gif
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With Dell firmware you can enable drive spindown by default. smile.gif
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I am not sure what firmware it will have. Andy just shipped it yesterday and I have not received it biggrin.gif

Stay tuned. I'll likely provide updates tongue.gif
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Look what the mail man brought me today biggrin.gif




Even came taped:




Question- Should I leave the tape on it ???? This is going into an Asrock Z77 mobo. I guess I could try it both ways.

Wish me luck

Also,

I love that the ports are on the back and not the side. That means the cables I have that I bought for the IBM card that were too short should work for this one biggrin.gif I have some spare SAS8087 cables so I should be good to go.

This is working out very well indeed. Thanks Andy!
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I am procrastinating whether or not I want to install this card right now tongue.gif

It's either install it- or change out of my work clothes and go play with my new router and attempt to build some raised panel cabinet doors. Decisions.. Decisions...
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Please try without tape first
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Ok- Time to try out this DELL SATA card.


I was lazy last night and played video games biggrin.gif

Ok will do. I brewing some coffee now. Very tired from work. Stay tuned... you might get some pics of me putting it in and testing.
Well, we have some of the same motherboards, so I wondered if Asrock 7/8 series required the tape
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Well, we have some of the same motherboards, so I wondered if Asrock 7/8 series required the tape

I am playing with my router table tonight, then the Patriots pre-season game at 7:30pm. I will get this bad boy installed this weekend and report back. I will try it first without tape biggrin.gif
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Less posting more installing Dell card and THEN posting smile.gifwink.gifsmile.gif

We are hungry for info smile.gif

I need to choose a card to add more HDD drives so I don't have to get up and put a disk in wink.gif
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Less posting more installing Dell card and THEN posting smile.gifwink.gifsmile.gif

We are hungry for info smile.gif

I need to choose a card to add more HDD drives so I don't have to get up and put a disk in wink.gif

Lol I still have not installed it. haha.

So lazy. I spent the weekend making cabinet doors.

I had a post here in Cowger's theater build thread because he's an awesome wood wooker and I am PC geek that's jealous. haha

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1313580/my-mahogany-invisible-speaker-build/100_100


Here is the post I made in his thread:




This $99 Ryobi I got at HD on a whim seems to perform well. It's cheap plastic, almost disposable. But it seems to work well given it's low price and plastic design. I am not an avid wood worker- but I am considering upgrading it to something more robust and capable given I have a home additional and theater build starting very soon. Just wondering if I can get by without spending more since I am on a very tight budget.

Update:

I went to HD got some No.2 Pine and some MDF for the center raised panels. I am trying to do this cheap as it's only a basement storage area, but I wanted to learn to do it and learn the skill so I might do better on something more important next time. I have a few large walk in closets planned in the home addition and I am thinking I will go DIY router for those. This skill might come in handy biggrin.gif

First thing I did was cut all the wood the exact same lengths. The area I am enclosing is under a countertop so I had a specific dimension I needed to make the doors. It was originally a work bench space that I slapped a counter top above and decided to turn it into storage. I wanted to make sure I cut all the Stiles exactly the same length. Measuring each with a tape measure would yield a small variation I wanted to avoid.





What I did was make a quick guide. I screwed two pieces of crappy pine together and then just clamped down a wood scrap block. That way every cut I made came out the exact same without needing to measure. Once I got it set up the cutting was very easy biggrin.gif





Once the stock was cut for the stiles I ran each piece through the router. Once it was done they dry fit together pretty nice.





Then I ripped the MDF on the table saw to the correct size. I had to account for the buried 7/16" that fit into the stiles. First I ripped it one way. Then I made the cuts the opposite way.






Then I had a problem in that the cheapo Router table I bought for $99 did not have a hole big enough to accommodate my router bit for raising the panel. So I took some spare MDF and drilled a whole in the scrap with a hole saw that would allow for the bit- and I raised the top of my router up since I could not drop the bit any lower.






I also made a makeshift fence and top guide by just screwing down additional scraps of MDF I had left over.

The result was a fence and top plate that accepted the panel perfectly.

Once the panels were raised I dry fit one just to test it out, but dinner was ready and I was tired so I quit for the day. One day this week I am going to sand them up, glue them up, and then paint them.











Because I had to remove the fence from the router table to mod it- I could not use the dust collection. The MDF was incredible dusty and messy. It was horrible.

A mask and some earphones are highly recommended. At first I was listening to the stereo, which I turned up loud enough to overcome the rigid shop vac I was using for dust collection and the noise of the table saw, miter saw and router. My ears fatigued and I decided it was better to just use ear phone sound protection. It was a smart move in hindsight.





I ended up setting up two big fans we use on the patio to keep cool. One I set up to blow across the router table and towards the door of the garage. I set up the second on the outside of the garage also blowing out. My goal was just to have the dust blow out of the garage. It made a huge mess.

Car got covered in dust. Ended up having to wash the cars and driveway off with a hose.




I made a huge mess (sorry I am no where near as neat or organized as Cowger tongue.gif ) but in the end I learned a new skill. I am not perfect at it by any means, but I feel like next time I could probably do a really good job with better results now that I know what I am doing. There was learning curve for sure. And - if I bought the cabinet doors everything I could find to purchase was very expensive in comparison. I likely would have resorted to just using plywood.


Special thanks for sharing your project and giving me the inspiration to try something new and outside my comfort zone!


So basically that was my weekend project. I did just buy another HDD so I have 3 new Seagates to Install soon.
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This is how you win:



Just bought it with a coupon I got in mail today.



Because the Seagate 3TB was only $99.99 and I needed .01 to get over $100 I bought a pack of pens for work. I needed them anyways.

End result is a $69 Seagate 7200.14 HDD delivered to my door with no shipping. It will be here tomorrow. Staples shipping is awesome! biggrin.gif Local truck from the store just drops it off. eek.gif

I also grabbed one of these last week at Costco:



It was $99 biggrin.gif

I'd be happy to document the process for opening these up so they go back together and can be RMA-ed back (you don't have to put them back together for MFG coverage) for anyone that's interested in seeing. Nothing in this world is easier than removing a Seagate external HDD biggrin.gif If you can't remove it, then you probably can't install a HDD in the first place tongue.gif

So I now have 9TB of storage space to add (three drives) Two I got for $99 at Costco, and a third I just bought today from Staples for $69. I did not need the last one, but deal was good so I acted. biggrin.gif
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Pretty sweet deal! I'm trying to decide how many HDD's I would need to use for parity for FlexRaid. Currently I just have 2 x 2TB drives and 1TB drive which is currently running under the unRAID configuration, but plan to transfer the drives to the SM server soon. Just need to figure a good HDD setup plan.
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I use a simple rule of thumb to use one parity drive for ever 5-6 data drives. I currently run FlexRaid with 13 drives (8 from SAS controller, 5 from On-Board + 1 OS), with 11 for data and 2 for parity.
Sadly my tower is now full, i should probably invest in a 24 bay 19" case some time, but the available hdd space should be fine until next year.

My first drive ever failed this week, going to install the replacement this evening and see my first real-world experience how flexraid manages the restore process.
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