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Harmonies are great. You can pick up the 500 and 600 series pretty cheap, and I think they are better than the current models WRT button layout and value
Yea, I use a cheap harmony 650. It's so nice to only need 1 remote. No one does any surfing on the htpc, everyone has an iPad, so there's no need for a keyboard and/or mouse. I suppose if really needed I could just get a keyboard/touchpad app for everyone's iPad.
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Yea, I use a cheap harmony 650. It's so nice to only need 1 remote. No one does any surfing on the htpc, everyone has an iPad, so there's no need for a keyboard and/or mouse. I suppose if really needed I could just get a keyboard/touchpad app for everyone's iPad.

I am going to try to grab the $39 deal from best buy for a gift for my bothers HTPC
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I am going to try to grab the $39 deal from best buy for a gift for my bothers HTPC
Nice! After I got mine I couldn't believe how I ever lived without.
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FYI that is looks like MAKEMKV is no longer in beta. A lot of people stating on other sites that you have to pay for it now in order to use it. I wonder if one license can work on multiple computers since I try to multitask and rip on 3 different computers at a time when I get into a "ripping" mode. Keeps things moving quickly.

So looks like another $50 program to buy.
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I paid for it when I started using it solely, years ago. Its the right thing to do for any piece of software.
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FYI that is looks like MAKEMKV is no longer in beta. A lot of people stating on other sites that you have to pay for it now in order to use it. I wonder if one license can work on multiple computers since I try to multitask and rip on 3 different computers at a time when I get into a "ripping" mode. Keeps things moving quickly.

So looks like another $50 program to buy.

Several sites have said this for a while, just a simple misunderstanding

Still says beta here http://makemkv.com/

You should also keep an eye out on the third announcement from this page
post #2137 of 3329
The posts on their site say that it is in Beta until "the end of November 2013" I've had a few times where I had to put in a new registration key before, so maybe it is just odd wording on their site...
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

The posts on their site say that it is in Beta until "the end of November 2013" I've had a few times where I had to put in a new registration key before, so maybe it is just odd wording on their site...

What posts? Link?
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Originally Posted by jim2100 View Post

What posts? Link?

Ok, in the Beta Key page it gives the Nov 2013 end date, but mentions that there should be an update:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053

Some talk about it here:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7163

This thread was asking about the key too, but looks like they might have a workaround for the Mac anyway. Too bad for us PC folks.
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7288

There has been additional information in these posts since I made mention of it here, and I was lead to the MakeMKV forum posts by other Google searches taking me to other ripping and home theater sites that took me there, so there was some background there that people were talking about the beta being over before I even got to the MakeMKV site.
post #2140 of 3329
MakeMKV requires a key to run.

You can purchase a permanent key that never expires.

Or you can use a beta key that expires periodically. Usually the MakeMKV author will post a new beta key at the same time the old one expires, but sometimes he may be a little late posting the new key.

The last beta key expired Nov 30, and the new beta key has not been posted yet. But it is a good bet that he will post a new beta key soon.
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Basically, if you get an error after you run the clean steps and try to reflash with the LSI firmware, you probably need to do it from a UEFI shell. I had a nightmare with this, because of secure boot. below is how I fixed it. YMMV, as it may be Motherboard dependent (Mine is ASUS Gryphon Z87).

Had a real nightmare flashing my M1015
Ran first two commands to clean bios from instructions commonly available, such as these: http://forums.servethehome.com/raid-controllers-host-bus-adapters/433-ibm-m1015-experiences-5.html

megarec -writesbr 0 sbrempty.bin
megarec -cleanflash 0


I then got an error about failing to initialize the PAL when trying to install new firmware
Result of numerous Google searches suggested I would need to boot from a UEFI shell. This is where the fun started

I had just installed Windows 8.1 Pro (clean install) on an ASUS Gryphon Z87
I downloaded a UEFI shell from here (v1) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Obtaining_UEFI_Shell
Renamed to Shellx64.efi and copied to root of usb
Also downloaded Installer_P17_for_UEFI from http://www.lsi.com/products/host-bus-adapters/pages/lsi-sas-9211-8i.aspx#tab/tab3 (downloads -> firmware)
Extracted and copied sas2flash.efi to root of USB
Tried to boot to UEFI shell and couldn’t because it wasn’t a secure boot device
So I tried to turn off secure boot in BIOS and there seems to be no way to do it
This meant I had to somehow make the USB a secure boot device

Figured out I had to set an admin password in BIOS setup
Then I went to manage keys and saved keys to USB (can’t do this without BIOS password)
Then when to advanced
Then exit
Then boot to UEFI

Once in the UEFI shell, I ran these commands (If you get "initshellApp: application not started from shell" at any point, try another uefi shell (e.g. v2). I got this when I tried v2, so went back to v1)

fs0:

sas2flash.efi -o -sasadd 500605bxxxxxxxxx (x= numbers for SAS address (no dashes))

Got message saying need new firmware: entered 2118ir.bin at prompt

Installed firmware and then got "sas address added message"


Hope this helps some of you

Regards

mark

Just wanted to post a follow up on flashing my IBM M1015 card...

After failing to flash the card using two older non-UEFI boards, I decided to give a try using one of two UEFI boards after seeing Mark's post here. Mark had success using an ASUS board, and I had an ASUS P8H77-M Pro, as well as an AsRock H77M. I wanted to flash the card to IT mode, and just use the card as a simple HBA card, so I simply changed a couple lines.

I had already followed the instructions to set up my bootable USB drive provided by Mfusick on page 25 of this post, then, I also added the (v1) UEFI Shell to the USB per Mark's instructions.

Using the AsRock H77M, I unlugged all my drives connected to the internal SATA ports, inserted the USB boot stick in the back, as well as the IBM M1015 card into the PCI-E x16 slot.

Powered on into the UEFI BIOS, went to the advanced menu and disabled the Serial and Parallel Ports. Then went to the Boot menu, saw that the USB drive automatically populated into Boot device 1 and 2. I also disabled fast boot. No network cable was plugged into the onboard NIC.

Rebooted into DOS (C: prompt), and entered in the 1st two commands:

megarec -writesbr 0 sbrempty.bin
megarec -cleanflash 0


At reboot, I attempted the third command:

sas2flsh -o -f 2118it.bin

but rec'd the "...failing to initialize PAL...".

I then rebooted back to the BIOS.
On the Exit menu for the AsRock, there is an option to boot into the UEFI shell, so I selected that.

Once in there, I executed the commands provided by Mark. I entered:

fs0:

after that went through, then I entered:

sas2flash.efi -o -sasadd 500605bxxxxxxxxx (x= numbers for SAS address (no dashes))

Then after that, and because I wanted IT mode, I entered:

2118it.bin

Rec'd the "...Successfull..." message and I was done.

SUPER EASY. I wish I never bothered with pulling together the older non-UEFI boards, I would have saved a lot of frustration!
BIG THANKS to Mfusick and Mark_anderson, as well as everyone else that contributed for getting me through all this!
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In addition to all the correct info above, each update you install from MakeMKV will reset the trial automatically. If you don't rip "too" often, you usually don't have to go hunt down the current code since opening the app will prompt you for a new update and hence a new trial
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Once in there, I executed the commands provided by Mark. I entered:

fs0:

after that went through, then I entered:

sas2flash.efi -o -sasadd 500605bxxxxxxxxx (x= numbers for SAS address (no dashes))

Then after that, and because I wanted IT mode, I entered:

2118it.bin

Rec'd the "...Successfull..." message and I was done.

SUPER EASY. I wish I never bothered with pulling together the older non-UEFI boards, I would have saved a lot of frustration!
BIG THANKS to Mfusick and Mark_anderson, as well as everyone else that contributed for getting me through all this!

Glad to hear it helped.
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Mfusick

I'm thinking of switching to a Norco RPC-4220. Newegg's got 20% off now.

Are 0.5 meter SFF-8087 (NORCO C-SFF8087-D) cables long enough with a 120mm fan wall and a Dell card? what about the IBM?

How about the 3ware CBL-SFF8087-06M 0.6m
Edited by Andy_Steb - 12/1/13 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by jim2100 View Post

MakeMKV requires a key to run.

You can purchase a permanent key that never expires.

Or you can use a beta key that expires periodically. Usually the MakeMKV author will post a new beta key at the same time the old one expires, but sometimes he may be a little late posting the new key.

The last beta key expired Nov 30, and the new beta key has not been posted yet. But it is a good bet that he will post a new beta key soon.

That is what it is looking like and the conclusion that I came too as well since my initial "report" since other were panicking about it. I should have just taken a deep breath and waited.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

In addition to all the correct info above, each update you install from MakeMKV will reset the trial automatically. If you don't rip "too" often, you usually don't have to go hunt down the current code since opening the app will prompt you for a new update and hence a new trial

No longer true with 1.8.6, at least for the 3 installs of it I have, and the reports about it on the MakeMKV website. Oh well, the new beta key will be out soon. I should probably just buy a regular license anyway for at least one of the machines. I wonder if a single license can be used on multiple machines coming from the same static IP (my cable modem) since they are all inside my house?
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

Mfusick

I'm thinking of switching to a Norco RPC-4220. Newegg's got 20% off now.

Are 0.5 meter SFF-8087 (NORCO C-SFF8087-D) cables long enough with a 120mm fan wall and a Dell card? what about the IBM?

How about the 3ware CBL-SFF8087-06M 0.6m

I'd be VERY careful (even wary) of Norco. read all the reviews on NewEgg: their QA sucks. Loads of people get stuff shipped that doesn't fit, doesn't work, has missing parts, etc. When you're talking about 3 or 4U rackmount case it's something that's a real PITA to return (even if the shipping is paid), not to mention the 2-week delay in your build.

FYI, I personally have no experience with Norco, but I just built a 3U rackmount server, and originally had my heart set on Norco until I read dozens of dreadful reviews. Sure, everyone has manufacturing defects, but not on their scale, unless their processes or QA are dreadful. I ended up buying an iStar USA case (3U). fit and finish was very good. It was a bit more, but am very happy with it

You may be lucky, and I know many people have had a good experience, but read plenty of reviews and decide from there
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FWIW I recently purchased and setup a Norco 4224 via Amazon and everything was/is perfectly fine with it. Bought my two expansion cards from a fellow AVS member (Andy_Steb) and that transaction also went very smoothly. I used the heck out of the machine this long weekend, including running handbrake on a few things and couldn't be happier with it.

Bill
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No longer true with 1.8.6, at least for the 3 installs of it I have, and the reports about it on the MakeMKV website

Hmm, haven't used it in a while, guess that's changed. Thanks for keeping me honest
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I'd be VERY careful (even wary) of Norco. read all the reviews on NewEgg: their QA sucks. Loads of people get stuff shipped that doesn't fit, doesn't work, has missing parts, etc. When you're talking about 3 or 4U rackmount case it's something that's a real PITA to return (even if the shipping is paid), not to mention the 2-week delay in your build.

AFAIK, there are 3 main names for server chassis. Supermicro, Dell, Norco. Lots of comments I've read in forums (not newegg) say Supermicro for a professional install at small/medium biz or home office, but Norco for personal use. Supermicro and Dell pre-built can be power vampires with redundant power supplies and excessive AC-DC conversions.

Never had a bad experience with istarusa, but I've long stopped trusting newegg reviews. Typically worthless IMO. If I were building from scratch now, I'd go Norco
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Never had a bad experience with istarusa, but I've long stopped trusting newegg reviews. Typically worthless IMO.

I quite like the NewEgg reviews. You certainly don't get some of the trash you get on Amazon like 5-stars because "it arrived in 2 days"; 1-star because "the box was crushed and it was broken"; 1-star because "it doesn't work with my Mac".

Granted, you do get a lot of gamers and some real geeks (no disrespect) on there who are on the bleeding edge, but I think, in general, they're a pretty tech savvy bunch. Regarding cases, something with missing parts or badly assembled (like I read with Norco reviews) isn't anywhere near as subjective/off the wall (IMHO) as "my $300 CPU cooler keeps my CPU 0.1 degree cooler" or "my $900 graphics board can do X 2ns quicker".
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Hmm, haven't used it in a while, guess that's changed. Thanks for keeping me honest

No worries. That is what used to happen and when everything different with how 1.8.6 acts to licensing and the end of November hitting and disabling everything, people (myself included) started to wonder.
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Mfusick's How to build an affordable 30TB Flexraid media server: Information ...

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Hmm, haven't used it in a while, guess that's changed. Thanks for keeping me honest

No worries. That is what used to happen and when everything different with how 1.8.6 acts to licensing and the end of November hitting and disabling everything, people (myself included) started to wonder.

I have a paid key. I use the one key on both my HTPC and my laptop for MakeMKV.

Again, as others have said. If you use MakeMKV and like it, pay for it! The software will never get better if no one pays the developer. It'll get abandoned like other freeware out there.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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I agree that MakeMKV is worth paying for, but I don't like to see heavy-handed comments like "you should pay for it or the software will be abandoned". I doubt that is accurate. MakeMKV has been in beta for years even though it has long since reached release-quality. The author does not display the purchase page prominently on any of his web pages. And there are no messages from the author trying to get you to pay for MakeMKV. What this says to me is that the author is not particularly concerned about making money with MakeMKV.

Still, I like having a paid key. If nothing else, I do not have to worry about the key expiring and no new key being posted yet!
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

AFAIK, there are 3 main names for server chassis. Supermicro, Dell, Norco. Lots of comments I've read in forums (not newegg) say Supermicro for a professional install at small/medium biz or home office, but Norco for personal use. Supermicro and Dell pre-built can be power vampires with redundant power supplies and excessive AC-DC conversions.

Never had a bad experience with istarusa, but I've long stopped trusting newegg reviews. Typically worthless IMO. If I were building from scratch now, I'd go Norco

I would generally agree with this ^

Supermicro is nice, but it's $$$$$

Norco is good quality at a good price and it's probably the most used at the consumer level. It's easily obtained through retailers at reasonable prices, the quality is decent- and the parts and mods are easy to come by.
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So Mfusick (or anyone else with a large-ish server), did you end up going with tTRAID? I have been using RAID-F for a few years now, but as my array became larger (>20 DRUs), it became less stable. I've considered switching to tRAID to see if it helps, but strangely, any questions I ask on the FlexRAID forum seem to get ignored. I'm looking to find any feedback of users on larger systems to see how it's working out.

Thanks!
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So Mfusick (or anyone else with a large-ish server), did you end up going with tTRAID? I have been using RAID-F for a few years now, but as my array became larger (>20 DRUs), it became less stable. I've considered switching to tRAID to see if it helps, but strangely, any questions I ask on the FlexRAID forum seem to get ignored. I'm looking to find any feedback of users on larger systems to see how it's working out.

Thanks!

20 DRUs doesn't seem like a lot. In what way did your array become unstable? Are you running 20 different sized drives or something?
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20 DRUs doesn't seem like a lot. In what way did your array become unstable?
Curious too
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I am considering t RAID but still on F
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The vast majority of them are 2tb, plus a few 1.5tb drives. It started occasionally hanging up during lengthy operations, like verify, but sometimes would even do it during updates. Brahim looked at my logs & even monitored my system, and came to the conclusion that my controllers weren't up to the task of the significant load of reading 20+ drives simultaneously. So I replaced them with an m1015 plus an hp sas expander, and also upgraded the cpu, with the same results. At one point he mentioned that real time raid might be better for a larger array, simply because it doesn't have to process so much in a large batch. So I'm considering tRAID, but looking for more feedback first.
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I use tRAID for general non-media storage. Performance is acceptable with OS caching turned on. I only have 2 DRU + 1 PPU right now though.
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

FYI that is looks like MAKEMKV is no longer in beta. A lot of people stating on other sites that you have to pay for it now in order to use it. I wonder if one license can work on multiple computers since I try to multitask and rip on 3 different computers at a time when I get into a "ripping" mode. Keeps things moving quickly.

So looks like another $50 program to buy.

Just a follow up to close this rabbit trail, I paid for my license key last night around 8:00pm. Oh, and the new free beta key was release a few hours later. Sort of like washing your car to get it to rain. Oh well, now I don't have to worry about it and the tool is great, even with its quirks.
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