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post #31 of 67
Is V10 only 24 hours or is it a full 7 or 8 days?
post #32 of 67
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Is V10 only 24 hours or is it a full 7 or 8 days?

Joe has V10.x on one of his TV's... 24 hours.
post #33 of 67
Useless to me. Might as well not be there at all.
post #34 of 67
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Originally Posted by JDMoose View Post

I have a non wi-fi LAN connection for Sony firmware updates which could be used to get the TV Guide if I had ver 10.01 instead of ver 9.0. My TV is about 4 years old.
Rovi recommends using a Cisco-Linksys WET610N Dual-Band Wireless-N Gaming and Video Adapter, but stipulated they do not endorse it. Basically unless there is an update to ver 10.1 you will not be able to get their TV Guide service as long as you have ver 9. If you have internet service with a wi-fi router and a 'newer' TV you should be able to get the TVGuide, regardless if it Cable or DSL.
The update would also have to add a feature to the network setup menu to choose the internet as an option to receive the TV Guide, and I do believe that is a part of ver 10.01. Mine only gives me the option of cable or OTA. The only way I know how to verify the TVGO version, is to go through the TVGuide settings.
This is what I received from Sony Support.
"First off, apologies you received incorrect information from the phone support representative. Your KDL46Z4100 has TVGO Version 9, and therefore is not supported for TVGO rovi Internet programming.
What the agent was referring to, for others that are wondering if they have options, 2009/2010 and newer products that have at least TVGO Version 10.1 will be able to access the internet for the Rovi information if you switch your TV Guide Information from Tuner to Internet in the settings."
Hopefully Sony will come out with a firmware update if possible"

Hello JDMoose,

I have the Sony BRAVIA KDL 46XBR6 HDTV and not the KDL46Z4100 you mention. In the Owners Manuel, it states I can connect my HDTV to the Internet using an Ethernet of some sort. My HDTV was purchase in February of 2006. According to the diagnostic it uses Version 09.01.54 of the TVGO. In the set-up, if I remember correctly, it does give me the option of connecting to the Internet, Cable/Dish Satellite, or Antenna. I use Rabbit Ears. The Owners Manuel also states that I can manually enter my own IP address and proxy settings.

I need to correct a statement I made earlier about the Timer .... after reading the Owners Manuel, it states “The Timer feature will not be available until you set the Current Time. The Timer can be set to have the TV tune to a certain TV channel or other connected equipment as well as a specific volume at the time and duration you set. Turning on the Timer will allow setting the following: Day of the Week, Time Duration, Input Channel, and TV On Volume” I had forgotten that I also have a Sleep Timer that I could use.

But according to what you are saying, since I have Version 9, I will be unable to connect to the TVGO menu and time clock, since I do not have Version 10? So according to your statement, that I need Version 10, even if I did connect my HDTV to the internet, I would still be unable to connect to the TVGO menu and time clock? Is this correct?

I use DSL through AT&T, but in order to connect the HDTV Ethernet cord to my Desktop, I would have run the cord down the hallway, and across another short hallway, into the spare bedroom, that I use for my computer room, which would be a trip hazard.

I have a WiFi router, that I need to install on my Desktop, so I can purchase a Laptop, and get Internet access on the Laptop. However, my Sony BRAVIA KDL 46XBR6 HDTV does NOT have WiFi option, that I can see in my Owners Manuel.

Anyway, yes if would be nice, if Sony update the firmware.

Kat
post #35 of 67
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Originally Posted by PurKat View Post

Hello JDMoose,
I have the Sony BRAVIA KDL 46XBR6 HDTV and not the KDL46Z4100 you mention. In the Owners Manuel, it states I can connect my HDTV to the Internet using an Ethernet of some sort. My HDTV was purchase in February of 2006. According to the diagnostic it uses Version 09.01.54 of the TVGO. In the set-up, if I remember correctly, it does give me the option of connecting to the Internet, Cable/Dish Satellite, or Antenna. I use Rabbit Ears. The Owners Manuel also states that I can manually enter my own IP address and proxy settings.
I need to correct a statement I made earlier about the Timer .... after reading the Owners Manuel, it states “The Timer feature will not be available until you set the Current Time. The Timer can be set to have the TV tune to a certain TV channel or other connected equipment as well as a specific volume at the time and duration you set. Turning on the Timer will allow setting the following: Day of the Week, Time Duration, Input Channel, and TV On Volume” I had forgotten that I also have a Sleep Timer that I could use.
But according to what you are saying, since I have Version 9, I will be unable to connect to the TVGO menu and time clock, since I do not have Version 10? So according to your statement, that I need Version 10, even if I did connect my HDTV to the internet, I would still be unable to connect to the TVGO menu and time clock? Is this correct?
I use DSL through AT&T, but in order to connect the HDTV Ethernet cord to my Desktop, I would have run the cord down the hallway, and across another short hallway, into the spare bedroom, that I use for my computer room, which would be a trip hazard.
I have a WiFi router, that I need to install on my Desktop, so I can purchase a Laptop, and get Internet access on the Laptop. However, my Sony BRAVIA KDL 46XBR6 HDTV does NOT have WiFi option, that I can see in my Owners Manuel.
Anyway, yes if would be nice, if Sony update the firmware.
Kat

As I said in my earlier post (according to Sony Support) you will need TVGO version 10.01 to receive the TV Guide service through the internet. I believe the internet connection you mentioned is for your TV to receive firmware updates from Sony. If you still have TV Guide on your TV, go to it's setup and see if you have the option of receiving it through the internet or just OTA or Cable.
Instead of running a LAN cable to your TV look into that Cisco-Linksys adapter that Rovi suggested. As far as setting the TV clock, I don't have any idea if you can or not after the TVGuide service is gone, since it does not give you that option while TVGO is operating.
post #36 of 67
I'm in the same boat. Have a Sony DHG-HD250 DVR with Gemstar Vers 8.01 that will not even display the correct time/date
now. No way to manually set it either. BTW, thanks for the Titan TV link. Hope they manage to stay in business ;>)
mad.gif
post #37 of 67
Saw the notices on my TVGoS earlier this month. Horrible news for those of us who use OTA. Still have it in my area, but probably not for long. My TV is a sony xbr8 with version 9.01.54, which at the time was Sony's flagship that cost $5000 for a 46" when other sets would be under $2000. Back then they would bend over backwards to service xbr8 owners, so I wonder if they will just ignore this. Given their current fiscal condition and the the fact all of these are out of warranty now, I wouldn't expect anything, but the TV listings are an important feature.

However, I am still hoping they can update the firmware to give tvg v10 and allow the built-in ethernet jack to be used for TVguide. But I am guessing the percentage of owners who use it instead of a cable box is still small. So they would need to hear a lot of complaints to even bother tasking someone with that for each model.

I am assuming the "INFO" displayed for the current channel you are watching will remain, since I think that is in the broadcast itself hopefully not pulled from TVguide, but knowing what's ahead was very convenient. Makes you wish they hadn't bothered to add in the "fancy" TVGuide back then, and opted for their own cheaper barebones guide like most OTA tuner boxes seem to have.
post #38 of 67
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Originally Posted by scottman View Post

Saw the notices on my TVGoS earlier this month. Horrible news for those of us who use OTA. Still have it in my area, but probably not for long. My TV is a sony xbr8 with version 9.01.54, which at the time was Sony's flagship that cost $5000 for a 46" when other sets would be under $2000. Back then they would bend over backwards to service xbr8 owners, so I wonder if they will just ignore this. Given their current fiscal condition and the the fact all of these are out of warranty now, I wouldn't expect anything, but the TV listings are an important feature.
However, I am still hoping they can update the firmware to give tvg v10 and allow the built-in ethernet jack to be used for TVguide. But I am guessing the percentage of owners who use it instead of a cable box is still small. So they would need to hear a lot of complaints to even bother tasking someone with that for each model.
I am assuming the "INFO" displayed for the current channel you are watching will remain, since I think that is in the broadcast itself hopefully not pulled from TVguide, but knowing what's ahead was very convenient. Makes you wish they hadn't bothered to add in the "fancy" TVGuide back then, and opted for their own cheaper barebones guide like most OTA tuner boxes seem to have.


Probably another reason Sony's credit rating has been downgraded to 'junk'. I also do not see any Sony TV's advertised on TV or the weekly store flyers. I'm in the same situation as you are, and the TV Guide is one of the main reasons I purchased that particular Sony model. I think you are correct about the OTA service. I wonder if it is even possible to upgrade the software version to 10.01. I think I purchased my last Sony product, and I still have and use my Sony Beta that works flawlessly. That is when Sony made quality products. Over the years I have been very disappointed in them. I did contact them about the TV Guide feature and they just dumped it on Rovi. mad.gif
post #39 of 67
No great loss, here. I have an older Pioneer Elite TV with this service, and it seems like every other day it would be blanked out due to "updating". Forget trying to arrange channels( an aggravating exercise to begin with), because when it came back, they would often be jumbled again. And channels previously turned on would be turned off. I gave up on using it a long time ago...
post #40 of 67
This was all news to me. Was just looking at a DTVPAL DVR on Ebay. Seller said TV Guide was going away. I'm a very sad camper. Had to live without it for a couple months sometime ago when the local station's equipment was down and I really, really missed it. I have never found an Internet based guide that has all the stations that I get OTA.
post #41 of 67
Ok, so did the local PBS stations quit broadcasting TV guide all together?
post #42 of 67
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Originally Posted by patmac57 View Post

Ok, so did the local PBS stations quit broadcasting TV guide all together?

In some areas the TVGOS broadcast by PBS/CBS stations has already ended. It will end everywhere by April. TVGOS in my area ended December 6th . . .
post #43 of 67
Thank you. I am in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and it apparently has ended here as well.
post #44 of 67
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Originally Posted by kcclark View Post

This was all news to me. Was just looking at a DTVPAL DVR on Ebay. Seller said TV Guide was going away. I'm a very sad camper. Had to live without it for a couple months sometime ago when the local station's equipment was down and I really, really missed it. I have never found an Internet based guide that has all the stations that I get OTA.

Try this website. It lists all the OTA channels in my area.

http://titantv.com/
post #45 of 67
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Originally Posted by JDMoose View Post

Try this website. It lists all the OTA channels in my area.

http://titantv.com/

Titan will let you add any missing channels. I can pick up a couple of San Diego stations, but based on my zip code, Titan assumes I only receive the LA sations.
It tells you how to add any missing channels. You can also remove any that you don't want to see.
post #46 of 67
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Originally Posted by patmac57 View Post

Ok, so did the local PBS stations quit broadcasting TV guide all together?

Most PBS stations quit carrying TVGOS the first week of November. As I understand it, they were working through a contract between Rovi and a consortium that most PBS stations belong to, and when that contract expired, Rovi recalled the equipment that inserted the data into the broadcast streams.

I know of a PBS station in Charlotte (WTVI) that (last I heard) is still carrying TVGOS. It's a locally-owned station that is not part of the statewide UNC-TV network. I suppose it must have contracted separately with Rovi for TVGOS service.

I'm "south of the border" myself, and out of range of WTVI. All South Carolina ETV stations stopped carrying TVGOS in November. I now use a TiVo instead of my TVGOS-capable Sony HD DVRs.
Edited by jtbell - 1/16/13 at 9:36pm
post #47 of 67
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Originally Posted by JDMoose View Post

Try this website. It lists all the OTA channels in my area.

http://titantv.com/

Titan does not carry all the channels in my area. One of the stations splits its signal into 5 channels. Titan lists only the first one. I can get the schedule for those missing stations from Zap2It but Zap2It does not show me stations that I can pick up from out of my Zap2It area. When I lose TVGOS, I'll end up having to use multiple websites to get the info I need.
post #48 of 67
TitanTV allows you to customize the lineup shown. If the five streams are all national networks, you should be able to add them.

- Trip
post #49 of 67
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Originally Posted by dmach View Post

I'm in the same boat. Have a Sony DHG-HD250 DVR with Gemstar Vers 8.01 that will not even display the correct time/date
now. No way to manually set it either. BTW, thanks for the Titan TV link. Hope they manage to stay in business ;>)
mad.gif


1/25/2013 I just re-flashed the firmware in my DHG-HDD250 with SW Vers 1.2.21 just to see what would happen. To my amazement the correct time appeared on the TVGOS menu and front panel display. The channel the unit used to set the clock was shown as 0:2-1 in the service menu, which is WBBM-DT OTA. In the Diagnostics menu the Program Map Table (PMT) font is green for both channels 2.1 (OTA) and 189 (WBBM -DT) on Comcast Cable so I assume that the Gemstar IC in the machine is at least decoding the time clock set data packets from here.smile.gif


Does anyone know for sure if the CBS affiliate WBBM-DT, Channel 2.1 in the Chicago is still broadcasting TVGOS data packets?
post #50 of 67
According to what I see on my own DTVPal DVR, WBBM resumed sending TVGOS info a couple of days ago.
post #51 of 67
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Originally Posted by dmach View Post





1/25/2013 I just re-flashed the firmware in my DHG-HDD250 with SW Vers 1.2.21 just to see what would happen. To my amazement the correct time appeared on the TVGOS menu and front panel display. The channel the unit used to set the clock was shown as 0:2-1 in the service menu, which is WBBM-DT OTA. In the Diagnostics menu the Program Map Table (PMT) font is green for both channels 2.1 (OTA) and 189 (WBBM -DT) on Comcast Cable so I assume that the Gemstar IC in the machine is at least decoding the time clock set data packets from here.smile.gif
 

 

Before you did the update, you were running the "G" test first, when trying to get it back, right?''

 

(You don't have to do it, now that you did the update - that's primarily what the update dealt with.)

post #52 of 67
I am still waiting (and hoping) for my TVGOS listings to populate on my DHG-HDD250. I have already been prompted by TV Guide Setup to select my particular cable-ready lineup from a list of Comcast and U-Verse systems so I hope this works. Will let you know.
post #53 of 67
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Before you did the update, you were running the "G" test first, when trying to get it back, right?''

(You don't have to do it, now that you did the update - that's primarily what the update dealt with.)

The first (and last) time I did the G factory default test several years ago, I wound up with incorrect dates and times on all of my previous recordings. I forget now what I had to do to get this right again but this test has scared me ever since.
post #54 of 67
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

According to what I see on my own DTVPal DVR, WBBM resumed sending TVGOS info a couple of days ago.

Are you receiving the WBBM TVGOS data via a cable system or over the air ?
post #55 of 67
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Originally Posted by dmach View Post

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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

According to what I see on my own DTVPal DVR, WBBM resumed sending TVGOS info a couple of days ago.

Are you receiving the WBBM TVGOS data via a cable system or over the air ?
Sorry, forgot about that aspect.  I'm talking about receiving it over the air on a DTVPal DVR.  However, now there are no entries past Friday evening (today being a Monday for people who read this later on), so perhaps it has stopped again.
post #56 of 67
My Rovi TV Guide disappeared over the weekend on my Sony KDL46Z4100. This was one of the main reasons I purchased this model. I did notice the TV Guide menu is still up with the OTA channels listed but no programs. Is this what everyone else's TV'show?

My next TV or any other electronics will not be 'Sony'. frown.gif
post #57 of 67
Funny thing is I'm still getting listings on my 46" W4100, which I've had hooked up since new but my most recent Craigslist purchase, a 52" W4100 that was previously hooked to cable so it required a channel rescan, has had NO LISTINGS since I hooked it up a week ago confused.gif
I've tried running the setup a couple times including re-entering my zip code and the TV has found the clock signal(from my local CBS channel that provides OTA TVGOS) and manual clock setting has been grayed out but it still shows NO LISTINGS for all channels......My 46" hooked to the same antenna is still showing all the listings!
Anyone know if a way to reset just the TVGOS? I don't want to reset everything on my TVs picture settings though, it took me many many hours to configure the settings for all the inputs and if resetting the whole TV is the only way I'll just live without the TVGOS, it will be going away quite soon anyway.
post #58 of 67
On the Sony DVR's (V-8) you can use the "653274147" code to reset just the TVGOS data. This code works on my Mits TV with V-9 TVGOS also. I'm not sure about the Sony TV's. Joe Kustra may know...
post #59 of 67
I can't remember, from what screen do you enter the numbers?
I tried those numbers form a variety of screens but none did anything. Well one screen did something.......it locked up my TV so tight I had to pull the plug eek.gif Not even the power button regained control but after plugging it back in nothing, including TVGOS looked to be reset.
post #60 of 67
I don't have TVGOS in my area anymore, so I've disabled it on my Mits. But IIRC on the Mits you enter the Guide screen, press the "Menu" button, then use the "down" button to go to the top choice (I can't remember what that is), then enter the code while that choice is highlighted (don't actually select that choice). I'm hoping Joe Kustra chimes in . . .
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