3D in the Home? Do you care? - Page 6

Had no want or need for it until the gaming industry jumped on it.

Grabbed a 7000U last year and have not looked back since. I was an all out hater of 3d until I saw it in my theater at 120"

Changed my mind instantly.

After reading the whole thread I don't recall seeing anyone talk about the current killer app for 3D at the moment (IMO of course)....

3D photography. Be it stills or video the way it captures the memory of the moment is, in my mind, unquestionably the best thing about 3D at the moment. I took a Fuji w3 compact 3D camera around Europe & Asia with me for 3 months and looking back on the photos now pulls me right back into the moment. Admittedly this is on a 95" projector screen, where size seems to be a common variable with the 3D advocates, but it truly is amazing.

Showing a relative 3D photos of his home land of which we visited in Croatia, was a joyous experience. He kept pointing out details in the background of old buildings and the mischief he used to get up to as a young man... he felt like he was there. Funny thing was when I sat him down initially and told him to put on the glasses he was like " I don't need these stupid glasses", waving them away. Then the moment he put them on it was a "ooooooowwwwwww sh*******t" moment. Great stuff.

In short create your own 3d content, the tools are available and the memories are priceless

Great post. I've been using the same camera for the past year and I've seen the same response as you have. If I'm showing pictures to someone who wasn't there, 3D really helps transport them out of the room and into that moment. If it's a picture me or others in the audience were there to see, likewise 3D really brings us back in a way that a 2D image doesn't. I'm sure there's something neurological or instinctual at work. If you're taking pictures for the sake of preserving and sharing memories, 3D is powerful.

3D needs to go away.

I fall under the "Got it" but also the "Don't want it" category. I have no desire to have 3D projection in my theater, but my projector has that capability, thus my statement. My family absolutely HATES the idea of 3D at home and barely tolerates it in the theater.

We feel the same way about popcorn. When I go into a theater serving popcorn, the smell is nauseating, people are sloppy with it and popcorn bits are all over the floor and seats. Eating popcorn causes bits to stick between your teeth and cause headaches. I've had popcorn and prefer not to have it. I understand some people love popcorn but I can live without it. I have the capability to have popcorn but refuse to serve it in my Home Theater. My family absolutely hates the idea of popcorn, the filth, and the smell and barely tolerates it in the theater.

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OK, the point is we all have our likes and dislikes. I happen to really get an entertainment value out of s3D. The first time I saw a movie in s3D was at Disney. From that time on I tried to buy any anaglyph 3D VHS movie I could get. I am thrilled to see that s3D is taking off so well in the industry and so many are adding this enjoyment to their home viewing.

For the most part s3D is a gimmick added to 2D storyline but in some cases, especially nature documentaries s3D adds a dimension necessary to experience the real world.

s3D haters are in a very small category, same as we had with Blu-Ray haters, DD5.1 haters, Quad surround haters and even stereo haters over the decades. But for one who is educated on the subject, the technology and art of stereoscopic 3D has been around for over a hundred years and is not going away anymore than movies with sound. The only thing that will change is the technology that keeps getting better.

Most people are indifferent to s3D. Go to a Disney 3D attraction and ask those waiting in line and they do not obsess themselves about wishing the attraction was not in 3D. They simply accept it for what it is. Yet, come to a forum of home theater enthusiasts and it amazes me how many here post their hatred for new technology. Even more amazing is how ignorant so many of these haters are regarding the history of the stereoscopic science. So many of them actually believe that s3D has just surfaced in the past couple years, but made a brief appearance in the 50's in the theater. I recall as a kid, in the 50's digging through my grandparents attic and finding their stereoscopes with slides and postcards in s3D. I sat there for hours looking at them with fascination. Then, as a kid, all I wanted was my own stereoscope . My Dad bought me a Viewmaster with a collection of stereo circular cards. So, for me, s3D is something I have had fun with all my life. Today, only the technology has made it better.

As for the poll, I like this one better than the other as the other was an expose as to how ignorant most here were about the history of stereoscopic 3D. At least this poll measures the sales AVS Forum members who have actually added 3D capability. Regardless if you like it or not, if you added it and you happen to get a stereoscopic movie in your hands you are in that category of user that can display it.

While I'm a life long s3D enthusiast, I recognize the technology as something extra to my entertainment. I don't insist that everyone has to have it. I only get annoyed with those who make it their mission to try to prevent me from having fun with it.

Nope. 3D won't go away, I'm afraid. What it needs to be is an addition to all your setup and media, so that whenever whoever wants to take advantage of it they're able to. 3D does not hinder quality and, as more and more people get into it, it will actually advance it even further. Browsing yesterday, I saw some select Blu-ray 3D movies on Amazon being between 14 and 20 dollars, and I mean multiple disc sets like Prometheus or Tangled (as a matter of fact, the 2D versions were more expensive in several, I think). Same goes for equipment, deals come around quite often where 3D is included. I foresee a time when movies will always include that 3D disc, like I said, as a bonus feature, whether or not you choose to ever use it. Get used to it, I say. Vive la 3D revolution!

Don....
You should do what I do. I invite folks over to watch a movie, then I charge them $4.00 for a bucket of popcorn and $3.00 for a medium soft drink.
I am amazed there are some who have the capability to enjoy 3D in their home, and they haven't even taken the opportunity to see what it can do. I realize some may have to purchase additional equipment that may prevent them from giving it a try (Blu-ray player & glasses). Yet many that have projector set ups actually prefer the home experience more than in the theater (2D and 3D material). But to each their own. I won't watch everything in 3D, but the family does enjoy watching 3D presentations (when done correctly).

I think maybe some people haven't checked out the newest forms of 3D (and thus think about the old red/cyan glasses, which sucked), or maybe have seen one badly-done, converted movie (Clash of the Titans, Beowulf, etc), and have just written off the whole thing as a gimmick. For sure, there is some gimmick involved, but really not when it's done well. The way I see it, 3D is much like HD, in that it's at its best when you don't notice it. And just like HD, it can draw you into a story in a way that you can't always put your finger on.

One thing that made me laugh when I first got a 3DTV: when you watch a 3D movie, in the theater or wherever, it's hard not to see some shots and think "oh, they just shot that for the 3D, what a gimmick". I hear that all the time from people who like to hate on 3D. So, my TV does a surprisingly decent job of converting any footage to 3D, and even though I never use that feature, when I first got the TV I tried it out, of course. And so I'd be sitting there watching an episode of Seinfeld or whatever, thinking "oh what a 3D gimmick", and then having to correct myself that "no, this was not made for 3D, so stop whining". Since then I've gotten into the habit, whenever I see a shot like that, of asking myself, "so how would they have shot that in 2D", and often the answer is that they'd have shot it the exact same way.

Have been enjoying many 3D titles at home here for almost a year now. Still watch mostly 2D movies and only see the need for 3D if it is a scifi/fantasy or animated movie I just want to immerse into and escape.

I really don't understand the 3D haters...probably would have complained about all that talking and music soundtracks when we emerged out of the silent film industry and also griped about all that color ruining the purity of black and white films too.

Just came from a friend's house. They recently bought a new Vizio 47" 3D and a low cost Blu Ray player. Switched to DirecTV for 3D channels too. They were not aware of my enthusiasm for 3D. So, I commented that they got a new TV! I also saw they had an Apple TV box connected. This family is Apple fan fanatic. So, I asked what sort of 3D do you watch and got the usual Blu Ray 3D titles and he mentioned the ESPN 3D sports channel.
I said want to see more? Can you get You Tube on that Apple TV box? So I navigated to my You Tube channel and brought up my 3D documentary on Bryce Canyon National Park. They recently came back from Monument Park so I thought that would be a good starter for them. So, it was fun introducing them to more 3D. Everyone in the family were gathered around that 47" TV watching my 3D programs on You Tube. Nobody complained about headaches or trouble seeing the 3D. They were just enjoying the effect. I liked how the ooooh's and wow's were vocalized when I was explaining about stereoscopic 3D and did a slow dissolve from the same scene in 2D to 3D as the flat scene came to 3D life.
This family is typical. Not a bunch of sour angry, I hate anything new, Home Theater know it all's. Just people having fun with a new form of entertainment. I'm sure this weekend they will be viewing everyone of my 3D productions and then on to the many others on You Tube.

I was actually surprised that Apple TV box could do 3D. I did have to switch the format to SBS on the Vizio however.

We have it and on occasion will use it, but overall we prefer not to have to wear the glasses.
To bad there was not one more poll option.... Got it, but don't care.

Oddly enough, good 3D requires improvements in brightness, black levels (or stated another way - contrast ratio), and sharpness. I think a lot of the improvements in 2D performance we're seeing have been driven by the technical challenges of 3D.

I don't care for 3D at all. I wear glasses and it's just uncomfortable to watch a full movie that way. Given a choice between 2D and 3D I would go with the 2D but since 3D is catching on, eventually I will have no choice but to upgrade. I like the idea of 3D though and I look forward to the day of enjoying a 3D movie with out having to wear 3D glasses. I know it's in the early stages for that now but once it's mainstream then I'll definitely get one. I'm good for now.

80" OLED, 4K, 3D Passive -> the easy part!
Affordable -> the hard part
NOW I'll watch 3D and Care!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Sgx1LLGo0&feature=relmfu

Real 3D coming without glasses

I feel most 3D movies are just bad movies, and the 3D is there just to give it a reason to watch it, journey 2 mysterious island is a typical example of a truley awfull movie that you would never watch if it wernt in 3D, i feel the same, allbeit to a lesser extent, with avatar. waaay too .long plodding, highly predictable movie,
ok, i admit of late there have been a couple of decent movies made in 3D, transformers dark of the moon for example, but they are very few and far between

another point i would like to make, it that i was quite dissapointed in the current re-re-re incarnation of 3D, its all abouth depth, i was looking forward to seeing stuff floating about in front of my eyes, but sadly not..i remember jaws 3 in 3D back in the day, with limbs floating in front of me at the cinema..tacky and gimmiky i know, but i would have liked to have seen more of that nowadays, i have watched about 8 bluray 3D movies so far, and im not that impressed..i still say it IS a fad, and will die out in a year or two...and good ridance to it
cheers rob
Edited by rob12770 - 11/24/12 at 12:57am

i predict it will be dead in 2 years, i saw on the news 3 months ago that sales of 3D equipment have dropped drastically.. nuff said.

Yeah, a small group of people have been predicting that for 50 years now. You and a couple dozen others can enjoy each other's company while the rest of the worls enjoys 3D in the home.

It is true that TV sales have dropped this past year but that is for all TV's the ones being sold, however, have a greater % with 3D than ever before.

Yeah, dead might be a bit harsh,perpetually moribund for over fifty years might be more appropriate.

Marc

Great thread.

Well, it got time to replace my old 56" Samsung DLP. Was almost 6 years old.

So I went out looking at TV's. 55" was the smallest I was going to go obviously. Picture quality was fairly important to me as well.

I was getting close to pulling the trigger on a 55" LG LED set that had passive 3D capability. I decided to go home and sleep on it.

I went bck to the store and looked a bit more then saw a Samsung PN60E7000 plasma set. Had 3D active glasses and noticed extra glasses for it were $20 so that was pretty nice. The picture quality was outstanding and the price was very nice as well I thought. Samsung also had a promotion that included a free Samsung Sound bar speaker. Did not need it but figured I could sell it.

So I decided to buy it ad got it home and installed on a nice solid TV stand I already had.

Man oh man. Just love this set. Did some tweaks on the settings and seem to have it dialed in pretty good.

I went out and bought Hugo to try out the 3D capability. I am very impressed. I did not go out looking for 3D but as others have mentioned, it seems the models with the excellent pictures have the 3D capability so its really just an added bonus and a bonus that I like.

I have since bought Titanic, Avatar, The Avengers, and a couple of of the IMAX discs. Also have Brave on the way.

Not sure if its me but I seem to think 3D in the home is better.

I wonder how many of those customers rushing out of Walmart with their 50" Plasmas, purchased for $398, were worrying about 3D?

Don. are you saying that 3D has been successful in the last 50 years ??? i think you have acctually proved my point, 3D HAS been knocking about for 50 years, longer of you include steroscopic photography,but it NEVER lasts more than a year or 2 before folk become bored with it...but every 20 years or so, they keep trying to roll it out again..and again.. and yet again...yaaaawn ..thanks for proving my point lol

And even now in 2012, with all our technology, we sit in our living rooms wearing dark glasses like a house full of popstars trying to pretend we dont see crosstalk ,straining our eyes and our heads, looking at our darkened 3D movies, telling ourselves how great it is, i think its about time we just admit defeat and move on to holographic tv or something similar.
Rob
Edited by rob12770 - 11/24/12 at 7:29pm

My wife can't watch 3D movies comfortably, she gets migraines, and after watching Coraline and Avatar 3D in theaters, they are clearly a trigger. For myself, I see the cool factor of it, it's a neat thing, but it just doesn't add as much to the experience as studios and their marketing departments think it should. So I really don't care, and since I like watching movies with my wife, no 3D for me.

3D won't explosive until glasses free 3d becomes affordable in the home.

I don't think the real push for 3d is in movies, butFPS video games and car simulations...

4k glasses free 3d with a gaming chair/steering wheel/peddles anyone?

Given good source content, I like 3D on my Panasonic VT30 plasma.

There's a lot of inferior content out there, but Blu-rays like Avatar, Hugo, Prometheus, and Sanctum demonstrate that good 3D in the home is possible.

To get the most out of the experience, I move my seating position to within 5-6 feet from the panel. The idea is to fill the field of view as much as possible while avoiding excessive pixelization. A very dark room helps minimize the peripheral distractions.

My BD player is the Oppo BDP-103.

you can have the best hardware in the world, 3D is still a fad..

rob12770
It is obvious you are not impressed with 3D, and from your 1st of your 4 posts on this page you want more "pop out" effects from this form of media entertainment and do not appreciate the depth aspect it provides. That is fine by me, everyone can differ in their opinion. Many (if not most) of those who do appreciate 3D, enjoy it for the depth it does provide. Many who complain about 3D single out the "cheesy gimmicks" of things flying at your face. You seem to appear contrary to most of the folks who are against 3D in these regards... that's cool with me too. Unfortunately, your opinion that it is a fad, and will be gone in 2 years has nothing to do with the reality of the situation. More sets (with improving technology), more content availability all point to this not being a fad, it is an option that some may take advantage of.

You don't like it, fine. But if you are going to argue "Fad" (no matter what equipment/hardware is used)... you better head back to the previous poll/thread. This poll/thread is for a discussion of the reality that 3D can no longer be considered a fad, and who wants it and who doesn't.

Incidently, my 3D viewing includes watching a bright 3D presentation (not dark), I experience no eye or head straining, only the rare occurrance of crosstalk, and I look fabulous wearing the glasses, just like the pop stars!

i dissagree