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Poll Results: 3D In the Home?

 
  • 39% (568)
    Got It
  • 11% (164)
    Want It
  • 18% (259)
    Don't Want It
  • 30% (439)
    Don't Care
1430 Total Votes  
post #241 of 413
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Originally Posted by Rob Greer View Post

I wish one of the poll options was "Got It but Don't Really Care" as it seems like many us on this forum feel that way about 3D.
The final answer, as is so often the case, rests with the public's wallet: as far as the U.S. market is concerned, 3D HDTVs have been pretty much a bust in the American market, and yet 3D seems to be doing well overseas. I'm in the don't care category; wearing a pair of sunglasses at home to watch a movie is not my idea of a good time.
post #242 of 413
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Originally Posted by MarqueeMarc View Post

If films can be made knowing that the script is poor or marginal but if made 3D could still show a profit this must contribute to the subpar film seeing the light of day.

I agree that this could happen. It wouldn't surprise me if there's a few bad movies that never would have seen the light if not for 3D technology (or for CGI, or for other modern special effects). Do you have any examples though? Out of roughly 600 movies released in North America every year, I doubt it's a significant number. My understanding is 3D usually gets paired to a bad production after the script has already been green lighted.

Ultimately 3D is just another tool which can be used in the service of a great movie or abused by a bad movie. I'm not sure about what complaining about the possibilities of it's ill uses is meant to achieve. Do people who complain about it want to convince other consumers that 3D is just too potent a tool, that the dangers out weight the good, and we should collectively abandon 3D for the good of the industry? Or is it just an expression of bitterness that the industry is putting effort into something they themselves aren't interested in?

And what about other uses of 3D, such as in video games and photography? Should these be unsupported in the home as well, to avoid any danger of having some bad movies see the light of day?
post #243 of 413
I also was in the "don't care" group, until I gave it a real try, and now I love it. Someone was saying 3D will die just like it did in the 80s, but it seams to me 3D has way surpassed anything it did in the 80s already. Maybe I'm wrong as I was just a teenager when movies like Jaws 3D came out but as I recall there wasn't much else after that. Today there are new 3D movies showing every week at just about every theatre.........don't remember anything like that back then. 3D may be doing lots better every place except for the U.S for some reason but I still think we are way past the "fad" status that was 3D in the 80s IMO.
post #244 of 413
I don't want it. Like others have said, I don't want to have to put on special glasses every time I want to see something in 3D, or to make a 3D broadcast viewable.

I think it is telling about the technology that the majority (don't care + don't want =51%) of respondents in a forum full of video enthusiasts could at best care less about 3D.
post #245 of 413
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Originally Posted by Tbargar View Post

I don't want it. Like others have said, I don't want to have to put on special glasses every time I want to see something in 3D, or to make a 3D broadcast viewable.
I think it is telling about the technology that the majority (don't care + don't want =51%) of respondents in a forum full of video enthusiasts could at best care less about 3D.

Folks who have a very negative experience with something, are 8 times more likely to voice their opinion about their dissatisfaction, while folks satisfied with an experience are only 2 times more likely to express their satisfaction, these numbers come form my college Marketing class form the late nineties, sorry, I can't cite the source, but using the above post as an example, its seems to support the fact that folks with negative experiences are more likely to voice their opinion, even to go out of their way, and make it their very first post.

Please don't take offense, just citing studies, that still seem to hold true, which tend to skew the survey results.

different strokes for different folks. biggrin.gif
Edited by dbailey75 - 12/6/12 at 5:51am
post #246 of 413
I have two LG 3D TVs. Waiting for LG to release a more affordable passive 3D projector.

I have tried all formats of 3D from day one. vhs, laserdisc, dvd, bluray, and finally bluray 3D. It finally is at a point where you can actually enjoy watching any 3D content. The most frustrating times (and still is) not the various great displays but the active glasses drove us up the wall when friends and relatives over to watch "3D" for the first time and batteries failed, some glasses worked others needed to be reversed same brand, lens pealed had to send back and of course high cost of multiple glasses. At last we tried out the LG 3D smart tv's with passive glasses "free" and the whole world of enjoyment finally arrived. Everyone and I mean everyone was blown away by not only a excellent display at 1080P but the 3D and passive glasses were light and all agree was excellent. We ended up buying another LG for our home and many of our friends bought one too. We have plenty of 3D movie content from all over the world and look forward to the next releases. The up scaling 2D-3D is fine but not the same.
Note: Most of our friends who watched 3D at theaters have said they enjoy same 3D movies alot better at home. We have a 130" screen in our media room but the same applies active glasses are the pits. We are hoping that LG or others will come out with a solid affordible passive projector soon. The present one by LG $10k is not realistic and reviews show improvements are needed. It is interesting to see that no effort in the retail stores is made by sales personal to promote passive TV's. Their loss because friends like us bought 3D tv.s on line at lower cost and support was their for replacement if a problem come up. Next day delivery replacement solid. I wonder how 4K displays look with 3D (4k).
post #247 of 413
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Originally Posted by BillFree View Post

I have two LG 3D TVs. Waiting for LG to release a more affordable passive 3D projector.
I have tried all formats of 3D from day one. vhs, laserdisc, dvd, bluray, and finally bluray 3D. It finally is at a point where you can actually enjoy watching any 3D content. The most frustrating times (and still is) not the various great displays but the active glasses drove us up the wall when friends and relatives over to watch "3D" for the first time and batteries failed, some glasses worked others needed to be reversed same brand, lens pealed had to send back and of course high cost of multiple glasses. At last we tried out the LG 3D smart tv's with passive glasses "free" and the whole world of enjoyment finally arrived. Everyone and I mean everyone was blown away by not only a excellent display at 1080P but the 3D and passive glasses were light and all agree was excellent. We ended up buying another LG for our home and many of our friends bought one too. We have plenty of 3D movie content from all over the world and look forward to the next releases. The up scaling 2D-3D is fine but not the same.
Note: Most of our friends who watched 3D at theaters have said they enjoy same 3D movies alot better at home. We have a 130" screen in our media room but the same applies active glasses are the pits. We are hoping that LG or others will come out with a solid affordible passive projector soon. The present one by LG $10k is not realistic and reviews show improvements are needed. It is interesting to see that no effort in the retail stores is made by sales personal to promote passive TV's. Their loss because friends like us bought 3D tv.s on line at lower cost and support was their for replacement if a problem come up. Next day delivery replacement solid. I wonder how 4K displays look with 3D (4k).

I got my 3D TV at the right time: almost 1 year ago, when LG was becoming the way to go with their Cinema 3D passive technology. At home parties I've had up to 14 people all wearing (at the same time---IMAX Deep Sea, it was I think) comfy lightweight LG glasses in assorted styles (okay, two were the heavier-but-never-as-heavy-as-active RealD glasses you get at the theater), all going "ooh!" and "ahh!" with different Blu-ray 3Ds and get nothing but compliments. In that time I've acquired 50+ Blu-ray 3D movies and want even more (next up: Ice Age 4 and Men In Black 3---speaking of Will Smith, maybe even I, Robot, since I never got that one on 2D Blu---oh, and I'm still missing Polar Express, H&K Christmas, etc). cool.gif I am so glad I never fell for active! Imagine what my 16 pairs of glasses would cost if they were active??? OMG!!! Being passive, and some free, I've only spent about 52 US dollars (shipping included) on 16---sixteen!---glasses. smile.gif

Active 3D badly needs sales reps since more and more consumers are going passive, which practically sells by itself. People are getting the (passive 3D) picture! wink.gif

Won't be going front projection either, till LG does the same in that field, same as you, my friend, AND my screen will be 16:9, to take full advantage of 3D presented that way (and variable aspect ratio movies like TRON: Legacy and Dark Knight 2 & 3).

I think 4k's got a long way to go, so not worried (for now). biggrin.gif

Let's go watch Life Of Pi 3D and The Hobbit 1 3D... What say you?! cool.gif
post #248 of 413


FYI, bought that via eBay for about 26 bucks,



plus that for about 13 bucks,

plus about another 13 bucks shipping from South Korea eek.gif (home of LG),

for a grand total of about 52 bucks for 10 pairs added to my 4 free-with-the-TV and 2 RealD ones. It's that simple!
post #249 of 413
I absolutely LOVE 3D, but not for the reasons one would expect. I have a 3D BR player and a great 65" 3D display. I gave 3D a chance with some quality 3D movies, but ultimately, it's not for me. It simply does not enhance the movie viewing experience for me. The negatives outweigh any positives (not sure there are any positives, frankly). Now, the reason I love 3D is manufacturers more than ever are including the 3D BR, 2D BR, DVD and Digital Copy in their combo packs. I keep the 2D disc(s) and sell the rest online. At this point, most all new release 2D BR discs in my collection cost me a net of only 5 to 10 dollars a title. Some, even less. E.T. cost me $1.11 on BR. I'm a happy camper, so keep bringing on 3D!!! tongue.gif
post #250 of 413
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I think 4k's got a long way to go, so not worried (for now).

Having seen 4K passive in 3D, the only long way to go is the price. Needs to come down, way down to about $1K-$2K and then it will be in my HT. I plan to install a 4K 3D panel behind my projector screen which is a 3D active. Meanwhile, We're really enjoying our 3D projector even though it is active.

Not interested in having a dozen people over to watch but I do have 6 pairs of active glasses bought on sale for cheap. Plus, I have one really expensive $200 pair I custom made for my wife that are prescription active. I worked with Lens Crafters to make these and used the Sony frames. My wife loves them.
post #251 of 413
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post

Having seen 4K passive in 3D, the only long way to go is the price. Needs to come down, way down to about $1K-$2K and then it will be in my HT. I plan to install a 4K 3D panel behind my projector screen which is a 3D active. Meanwhile, We're really enjoying our 3D projector even though it is active.
Not interested in having a dozen people over to watch but I do have 6 pairs of active glasses bought on sale for cheap. Plus, I have one really expensive $200 pair I custom made for my wife that are prescription active. I worked with Lens Crafters to make these and used the Sony frames. My wife loves them.

Way to go with the prescriptions, Don! 'Course, passive lets one use really practical ultra-lightweight clip-ons (for those interested), even if it only works on "smaller" passive TV panels...

Another advantage of the clip-ons is you take them with you to any RealD theater viewing, which I do whenever possible, and it rocks! (Just don't try it at an IMAX 3D viewing---won't work due to different poplarization---, but OTOH there just might be clip-ons for IMAX?). cool.gif

CONCLUSION: anyone wearing specs should get inexpensive clip-ons if only to improve their viewing experience at the movies, regardless of having it at home or not interested or whatever!!! wink.gif
post #252 of 413
3D improvements aren't stopping projectors from improving in 2D. PJs and displays are getting better and cheaper even with 3D included as standard on most. As for content, just like 2D, it's all about the movie itself. 3D can't save a bad script.

Anyone that bashes 3D is entitled to their opinion, but IMHO, they're doing themselves a disservice by poo-pooing it. A quality 3D projector can display an awesome picture given a great, natively shot 3D source. The added dimensionality and depth from a well done 3D movie is an improvement to the experience. Typically, if the movie was shot natively in 3D and the director knows what they're doing, the resulting movie almost has to be seen as intended to get the most out of it. The only negative I can think of with 3D (besides the surcharge for BD set) is having to wear glasses. This can be somewhat mitigated by using the better RF ones. They're also improving and getting lighter; and there's no reason to think that will stop either.

I've been on AVS for a while now and I remember the days when digital was bashed vs. CRT. Apparently, bashing the new thing is always popular.

I also remember talk about 3D-like depth from improved displays. Well, you can't get more depth than real 3D.

And of course, there's always been mantra of trying to reproduce what the director intended to show in the theater (OAR, etc.). If Cameron, Scorsese, and others filmed it in 3D, that's the best way to see it. Until you've seen a high-quality 3D home theater setup in action, you're probably just bashing 3D out of ignorance or envy.

It's not a fad and most 3D sets contain 2D and you have the option to just buy 2D. Wanting 3D to go away is pointless. The world is round, not flat. Get over it.
post #253 of 413
In all honesty, I could go either way. While I don't have 3D in my home now, chances are that the next display I purchase will have a form of it included (based on where the manufactures seem to be heading with the tech, at least for the moment). I certainly feel no rush to "3D-update" my HT, however if the feature ever does end up in my home, I'll probably be more inclined to investigate movies that were filmed for 3D specifically. In the meantime, the occasional trip to the theater will serve for viewing anything in 3D that looks interesting:)
post #254 of 413
Had 3D and loved it!!..Switched to a plasma without it and now I really miss it!!
I will be purchasing a new 3D plasma after Christmas...
I have 3 kids and they really enjoy it as well, so its a no brainer for me, whatever keeps the kids quiet for a couple hours is amazing in my book wink.gif
post #255 of 413
Got it
&
Don't care

I only bought a 3D display becasue the better displays happen to have 3D. If they can do 3D well, they are generally superb at 2D.

I do like buying the 3D BD's, but have no rational explanation as to why. We have two pairs of glasses; came with the display, one has beenused a couple of times for testing, the other is still in the original packaging. When I bought my display, I thought I needed four pairs of glasses (total). At the last minute, I decided to just give it a shot with the two it came with; very glad I did.
post #256 of 413
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Originally Posted by huskerbear View Post

I also was in the "don't care" group, until I gave it a real try, and now I love it. Someone was saying 3D will die just like it did in the 80s, but it seams to me 3D has way surpassed anything it did in the 80s already. Maybe I'm wrong as I was just a teenager when movies like Jaws 3D came out but as I recall there wasn't much else after that. Today there are new 3D movies showing every week at just about every theatre.........don't remember anything like that back then. 3D may be doing lots better every place except for the U.S for some reason but I still think we are way past the "fad" status that was 3D in the 80s IMO.

Same boat...except i was 9 in '83,but still remember it as my first 3D experience smile.gif
Just watched tangled 3D with the kids last night..Very impressed ,very happy ,and so fun to hear our kids ooh and awe..Oldest boy who coincidentally is 9 wants to have a couple friends over for a 3D movie night..Just have to figure out which movie to show,don't think they want tangled cool.gif
Any suggestions ?
post #257 of 413
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Same boat...except i was 9 in '83,but still remember it as my first 3D experience smile.gif
Just watched tangled 3D with the kids last night..Very impressed ,very happy ,and so fun to hear our kids ooh and awe..Oldest boy who coincidentally is 9 wants to have a couple friends over for a 3D movie night..Just have to figure out which movie to show,don't think they want tangled cool.gif
Any suggestions ?

+1 to what horrorfan said too wink.gif !
post #258 of 413
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Same boat...except i was 9 in '83,but still remember it as my first 3D experience smile.gif
Just watched tangled 3D with the kids last night..Very impressed ,very happy ,and so fun to hear our kids ooh and awe..Oldest boy who coincidentally is 9 wants to have a couple friends over for a 3D movie night..Just have to figure out which movie to show,don't think they want tangled cool.gif
Any suggestions ?

Not too familiar with the animated titles but at 9, you might try Journey 2 the mysterious island 3D.
post #259 of 413
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Same boat...except i was 9 in '83,but still remember it as my first 3D experience smile.gif
Just watched tangled 3D with the kids last night..Very impressed ,very happy ,and so fun to hear our kids ooh and awe..Oldest boy who coincidentally is 9 wants to have a couple friends over for a 3D movie night..Just have to figure out which movie to show,don't think they want tangled cool.gif
Any suggestions ?

Alice in Wonderland, Hugo, Toy Story 3, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Tron: Legacy, ParaNorman, Cars 2, Transformers Dark Side of the Moon, The Amazing Spider-Man and the Avengers. That's just a a few I have enjoyed.
post #260 of 413
Awesome suggestions ,,thanks guys ..Spider man may be the winner ...Will probably end up checking em all out over the winter smile.gif
post #261 of 413
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Awesome suggestions ,,thanks guys ..Spider man may be the winner ...Will probably end up checking em all out over the winter smile.gif

For you as an adult I would recommend Prometheus for a native shot 3D movie and then Titanic for the best in converted 3D.
post #262 of 413
I'm waiting for hologram TV.
post #263 of 413
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Originally Posted by mndwgz View Post

I'm waiting for hologram TV.

Over on the Star Trek set!
post #264 of 413
Holodeck, give it 5-10 years. Saw a tri-corder on line yesterday.
post #265 of 413
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Originally Posted by stevenjw View Post

I've been on AVS for a while now and I remember the days when digital was bashed vs. CRT. Apparently, bashing the new thing is always popular.

Poor example, digital was bashed in the days when it looked like crap compared to CRT. When those days passed the bashing vanished
post #266 of 413
Got to say I really didn't care about 3d....I'm hooked...enjoy the heck out of it now...3d ftw
post #267 of 413
Well I first looked into 3d a couple of years ago. I thought of another 720p or hd-dvd type of situation. Anyways I needed to replace a Sony hiscan CRT/TV that was taken out by lighting. When I looked at all options I knew that plasma was best for me. Then that fell right into the Panasonic 3d tvs. So I thought about the kids and how many times they wanted to see the 3d version at the theaters. So I did my homework on active/passive that was a easy choice to me.
Now we only see 3d movies in the theater about once every 12-18 months. In my opinion the set up I have blows away the theaters. The kids, wife and people that have used it have all agreed its the best 3d they've ever seen. Also I have never had an issue with the glasses, yes some versions are a little awkward but not a pain.


Long story short I am very happy with the active glasses set up we have. We watch 3d content about 6-12 hours a month. I look at that as a treat.
The only suggestion is, if you have younger children please limit there 3d exposure. I read a lot of info on this and I believe it's kind of common sense. It can be bad for the development in there vision.


I have the Panasonic st30 60" with a ps3
The glasses I use are the pany 3 gen (most comfortable) , sony ps3 and expand. All work great
We also have about 20 3d movies and 6 or so ps3 3d games.
Thankfully those ps3 and expand glasses are $18-25 each smile.gif
Thank god for slickdeals and reselling avatar 3d on ebay for $100...LOL
post #268 of 413
I jumped in the 3D world recently by buying a 47" Vizio LCD, 120Hz, with passive glasses. It came with two and the ones from movie theaters (Real3D) are working as well with the TV.
The 3D movies that I watched till now where nice experiences, not tiring on eyes for me or my family. Optimal distance for the 3D effects is higher than optimal HD distance - because of that I cannot see the loss of vertical resolution that is theoretically associated with the passive technology.

I would say that definitely is a nice thing to have, especially if the movies are thought and directed for a 3D experience.
post #269 of 413
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Originally Posted by SoNic67 View Post

I jumped in the 3D world recently by buying a 47" Vizio LCD, 120Hz, with passive glasses. It came with two and the ones from movie theaters (Real3D) are working as well with the TV.
The 3D mqovies that I watched till now where nice experiences, not tiring on eyes for me or my family. Optimal distance for the 3D effects is higher than optimal HD distance - because of that I cannot see the loss of vertical resolution that is theoretically associated with the passive technology.
I would say that definitely is a nice thing to have, especially if the movies are thought and directed for a 3D experience.

I too have a passive Vizio set M3D550KD and have yet to notice the supposed half the resolution, I truly believe our brain puts both images together to give us a full HD signal perceived.

For those of you that need a movie to convince you to go 3D watch Titanic in 3D, it shows you that 3D is a lot more than just gimmicks and fads. It engulfs you into the cinema experience in home like no other.

3D HDTV + Surround Sound puts you in the story.
Edited by PlayNice - 12/11/12 at 1:56am
post #270 of 413
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

I too have a passive Vizio set M3D550KD and have yet to notice the supposed half the resolution, I truly believe our brain puts bothe images together to give us a full HD signal perceived.
For those of you that need a movie to convince you to go 3D watch Titanic in 3D, it shows you that 3D is a lot more than just gimmicks and fads. It engulfs you into the cinema experience in home like no other.
3D HDTV + Surround Sound puts you in the story.

+1 on titanic. I watched with my active panasonic plasma.

Jacob
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