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post #121 of 629
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We still sold corn to them too. Weird how that works.

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We do billions in commerce with Communist China (we buy their products, they buy our debt), yet Communist Cuba has been under embargo for half a century. They're driving Edsels held together with duct tape and you can't find a decent cigar on this side of the Keys. I hope somebody explains that for me some day. biggrin.gif

Yep, geopolitics and trade work in mysterious ways. Don't ask me to explain any of this stuff, for this way lies madness.smile.gif
post #122 of 629
I like the show, but it doesn't seem to be really giving me the 80s vibe that I thought it would. Not sure where it's going wrong, It's not like I'm seeing rampart anachronisms or anything. It just doesn't feel like the 1980s to me. Hopefully they really reference the politics of the day more than just passing a few Reagan references off here and there.
post #123 of 629
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You beat me to it. Reagan wanted the Soviets to think he just might be a bloodthirsty madman. He wasn't, of course, but the policy he implemented of large increases in military spending sounded the death knell of the Soviet empire. They simply didn't have the resources to keep up. The cracks in their unsustainable economy became fissures and the rest is history. Nobody in the US at the time realized that the defense buildup would have such dramatic consequences but that's the way it turned out.
I guess its all about how you look at it? If you'll google the "PNAC Primer" it sure makes me think if we went down the road of good.
post #124 of 629
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

We do billions in commerce with Communist China (we buy their products, they buy our debt), yet Communist Cuba has been under embargo for half a century. They're driving Edsels held together with duct tape and you can't find a decent cigar on this side of the Keys. I hope somebody explains that for me some day. biggrin.gif

Well that's simple - China is half a world away, Cuba is 90 miles away.
post #125 of 629
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Well that's simple - China is half a world away, Cuba is 90 miles away.

Simple maybe, but it doesn't make any sense. Cuba is in poverty while China is close to owning us.
post #126 of 629
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Simple maybe, but it doesn't make any sense. Cuba is in poverty while China is close to owning us.

Not to mention, which is clearly the bigger military or economic threat? Which will someday be a nearby vacation paradise? No, proximity doesn't really have anything to do with it -- maybe at the very beginning, but no longer. It still stumps me.
post #127 of 629
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How is that any different than rotting for characters like Dexter or some other criminal in a show? Vic shoots a guy on his own team in the first few minutes of the premiere episode of The Shield, yet we root for him to keep out of trouble.

When you watch Matlock, it's not about seeing the accused get off. It's about seeing how Matlock gets them off (innocent or not).

In this case, we want to see how they keep out of hot water and cope with our culture.

Besides, we all know they didn't win in the end...

Dexter is a American? Sure you may consider Dexter scum but at least he is American Scum.
It's odd but I grew up in the 80's and that seems to make a difference.
post #128 of 629
Not to mention, which is clearly the bigger military or economic threat? Which will someday be a nearby vacation paradise? No, proximity doesn't really have anything to do with it -- maybe at the very beginning, but no longer. It still stumps me.

Why are you stumped? Both parties have always desperately needed Floriday's electoral votes, and the Cuban transplants remain fiercely anti-Castros (can't really blame them; he took all their stuff) and they actually go out and vote. Plus they're violent if you cross them. Plus it's a holdover from the anti-Communist scare tactics of post WWII. Plus it's upholding the Monroe Doctrine (Venezuela is on the receiving end of this these days too).

As far as the show goes, I just look in to see what good people see in it. To me it's simply too dark, too depressing. A KGB family where hubby is in love and wifey is not, played out Bondian and Manchurian Candidatian rather than in the manner of Le Carre, which would be more how this whole thing would have worked out in real life. No thank you.
post #129 of 629
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As far as the show goes, I just look in to see what good people see in it. To me it's simply too dark, too depressing. A KGB family where hubby is in love and wifey is not, played out Bondian and Manchurian Candidatian rather than in the manner of Le Carre, which would be more how this whole thing would have worked out in real life. No thank you.

Huh. I don't see either Bond or, even less, Manchurian candidate overtones. It strikes me as a more-or-less realistic portrayal of what and how real KGB sleeper agents would do and act during this period of time, as well as what resources would be available to them. That poison umbrella was a real example of period spycraft and those bugging devices were indeed large, bulky and relatively unsophisticated. It looks to me like they're paying a great deal of attention to authenticity. More Le Carre than Fleming, I should think.
post #130 of 629
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Good series so far, I absolutely love it! But does anyone else notice the extreme amount of compression artifacts and shimmering pixels during the darker scenes in this show?
Very much so. High compression (more so than on other FX series, like "Justified") combined with lots of darker scenes makes this very apparent... especially on larger high-quality HDTV display screens.

Definitely not the best video. But I've been a fan of Keri's since "Felicity" and couldn't care less. She looks much more mature in this show (she's now a mother in real life), which is great.
post #131 of 629
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Very much so. High compression (more so than on other FX series, like "Justified") combined with lots of darker scenes makes this very apparent... especially on larger high-quality HDTV display screens.

Definitely not the best video

terrible grain in the darker scenes...really bad HD picture quality...looks even worse then Walking Dead on AMC HD

as for the show itself I like it but don't love it...has potential but it's not something I look forward to...the actor who plays Phillip is excellent as is the FBI agent living across from them but something about the overall story that needs improvement
post #132 of 629
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Why are you stumped? Both parties have always desperately needed Floriday's electoral votes, and the Cuban transplants remain fiercely anti-Castros (can't really blame them; he took all their stuff) and they actually go out and vote. Plus they're violent if you cross them. Plus it's a holdover from the anti-Communist scare tactics of post WWII. Plus it's upholding the Monroe Doctrine (Venezuela is on the receiving end of this these days too).

Perhaps because arch and others realize that a small, vocal minority is holding us back from normalizing relations. I mean, if we can make peace and do lots of trade with Vietnam for cryin' out loud, how is it so hard to do it with Cuba? I guess we'll have to wait until Fidel and Raul croak to see a change? It's really sad.
post #133 of 629
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terrible grain in the darker scenes...really bad HD picture quality...looks even worse then Walking Dead on AMC

Yeah, it's either heavy grain OR video noise; sometimes it's virtually impossible to discern which one is the culprit. As far as daytime scenes, I really don't think it's as bad as The Walking Dead. The depth and details can be quite good at times, though with the drab color palette (which is the Director's choice, no doubt because of the time period it depicts) it still leaves something-to-be-desired.
post #134 of 629
I've not seen any lens flare yet. I guess because it wasn't invented in the 80's.
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I heard on the news this morning to avoid two areas of Manhattan tonight due to "controlled explosions" happening during location filming for the cable series "The Americans".
Interesting....
post #136 of 629
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I heard on the news this morning to avoid two areas of Manhattan tonight due to "controlled explosions" happening during location filming for the cable series "The Americans".
Interesting....
Another dastardly plot by capitalist pig!
post #137 of 629
I fear this will be yet another show that leaves the viewer to wonder how the characters manage to take care of their kids. Added bonus: keeping those kids completely in the dark about what they're really doing.

You can't be all super spy all the time while still maintaining the appearance of "Mommy & Daddy hired a sitter so that we could go out for dinner."
post #138 of 629
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I fear this will be yet another show that leaves the viewer to wonder how the characters manage to take care of their kids. Added bonus: keeping those kids completely in the dark about what they're really doing.

You can't be all super spy all the time while still maintaining the appearance of "Mommy & Daddy hired a sitter so that we could go out for dinner."

It's the 80s they get awesome TV to babysit them.
post #139 of 629
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It's the 80s they get awesome TV to babysit them.

Ha.
post #140 of 629
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It's the 80s they get awesome TV to babysit them.
Yeah, but get the wrong babysitter in the 80's and you run the risk the whole bunch of them will have a run-in with car thieves and gangsters, leading up to one of them hanging off a building while wearing a Thor helmet...
post #141 of 629
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Yeah, but get the wrong babysitter in the 80's and you run the risk the whole bunch of them will have a run-in with gangsters, leading up to one of them hanging off a building while wearing a Thor helmet...

lol. Awesome movie biggrin.gif
post #142 of 629
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Originally Posted by Steve Mehs View Post

Good series so far, I absolutely love it! But does anyone else notice the extreme amount of compression artifacts and shimmering pixels during the darker scenes in this show? It was really apparent and annoying during this past weeks episode during the car ride scene at minute mark :46 or so, but throughout both episodes it’s been noticeable. The outdoor market scene with the FBI agent telling the girl to nod if his accusations were correct that occurred around the same time was also pretty bad. I record this (and most of my other shows) on both the Time Warner and DirecTV DVRs. I watched The Americans on TW, but rewatched certain scenes on DirecTV and it was just as bad if not worse as far as the compression artifacts go. I don’t recall American Horror Story: Asylum being this bad.

I was wondering why no one was mentioning this. Worst PQ of any HD show I regularly watch. I was hoping it would just be the pilot, but no such luck. Pathetic.
post #143 of 629
Agreed that the pq is one ofthe worst I watch but I think it's also intentional to a point to help bring us back into the 80s. Could be totally wrong and fx didn't have the budget for decent cameras or editing...

They could probably achieve the same with stunning HD but, for me it's not that big of a deal.
post #144 of 629
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Agreed that the pq is one ofthe worst I watch but I think it's also intentional to a point to help bring us back into the 80s. Could be totally wrong and fx didn't have the budget for decent cameras or editing...

They could probably achieve the same with stunning HD but, for me it's not that big of a deal.
Don't you dare make excuses for them.
post #145 of 629
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Agreed that the pq is one ofthe worst I watch but I think it's also intentional to a point to help bring us back into the 80s. Could be totally wrong and fx didn't have the budget for decent cameras or editing...

They could probably achieve the same with stunning HD but, for me it's not that big of a deal.

I don't doubt it being intentional, Burn Notice was horrid and it never seemed to bother it when it came to ratings. I would rather have a stunning sharp HD, but I'm with you in that it doesn't really bother me.
post #146 of 629
I am enjoying this show quite a bit too. It reminds me of Tom Clancy's book, "The Cardinal of the Kremlin" which was about spies on both sides. Some of the stuff that has happened seems like it was pulled from his books. Message drops, fake phone messages, keeping the young ones in the dark about mom and dad, etc. His books were very real and accurate and were absolutely impossible to put down. I may be expecting too much but I hope this show hits me the same way. So far, so good!
post #147 of 629
Just a heads up for those with radios.... The economics of the cold war in relation to the U.S. and the Soviet Union and how that's presented in 'The Americans' will be discussed on tonight's Marketplace radio show, on an NPR affiliate near you. In this market, it's on WFAE 90.7 FM and comes on at 6:30 PM. Marketplace is a great show, so I would expect this piece to be worthwhile listening - probably will run 5 or 6 minutes.
post #148 of 629
really like this show.. this ep could have used some 80's tunes tho!
post #149 of 629
Really dug this episode. Knew we were in for good things when Margo M showed up. Anybody who's seen Mags in action knows she can pat you on the back with one hand, while stabbing you in the gut with the other. At least the baby made it. The guys on the streets of Philly reminded me of Live and Let Die a little.
post #150 of 629
I never figured Richmond Hill Queens under the J train could pass for early 1980s Phily
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