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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Ditto, just bought the model 55 Track Saw too...

Got one as well! Festool do make some nice tools, next up for me is the CMS table...
post #32 of 43
I was just looking at that during lunch today; certainly on my list for next year!

Portable or Stationary?
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Got one as well! Festool do make some nice tools, next up for me is the CMS table...
post #33 of 43
I would say about 70% stationary. Since I live in Europe we also have the ability to use the T55 track saw as a bench saw in the CMS system, but sadly it is NAINA...
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

The "Save $25.00 when you spend $100.00 or more on Select Bosch Tools" promotion at Amazon pushed me over the edge. I went with the 1617EVSPK.
Thanks for the help in liquidating my bank account. biggrin.gif

You're welcome and you'll be happy to know you've returned the favor. Wasn't aware of this promotion on amazon and because of it I picked up another 1617 to dedicate to my router table. biggrin.gif
post #35 of 43
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I've been happy with my Bosch 1617EVSPK. It is my first router, but I haven't had any functional frustrations with it, and it seems nicely made, so that makes it better than many tools I have purchased. smile.gif I've used it a LOT for many different projects -- much more than I expected when I bought it -- so it is nice to have a router that I like using (and quality bits, too).
I haven't tried the Bosch circle cut jig, but the Jasper 200J jig works great with the 1617. I use the Whiteside RU4700 bit, which I like because it is a 1/4" bit with a 1/2" shank (so I don't have to change the collet when changing bits). I've never had to cut through anything deeper than 1", but the short 1" cutting length seems like the only potential downside to the RU4700.
Routers make a huge amount of dust. So for dust collection, I added a dust collection kit, with a Dust Deputy cyclone that I mounted to an old broken shop vac, and a powerful and relatively quiet shop vac (cheaper at local stores) that is automatically switched on when I turn on the router via a Craftsman AutoSwitch. The Dust Deputy makes a HUGE difference in how long the filter lasts in the vacuum. I highly recommend some kind of cyclone, even if you are just sucking up sawdust from the floor with your shop vac.
I was rounding over the edges on a project today (a pair of AutoTuba subs), so I snapped a pic of my router and dust collection setup:

-Max

Max,

I'd like to pick up the Bosch 1617 kit off Amazon and I already have a Ridgid shopvac like the one in your setup but I believe I need to replace the filter.
What exactly do I need to get for a Dust Deputy and attachments to the Bosch?
The stock pictures of the Bosch 1617 do not appear to show a dust collection attachment on it and there seems to be a number of Dust Deputy types.

Thanks.
post #36 of 43
I don't have the Bosch but have looked into it before. I believe this is the dust collection kit you need to buy also: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-RA1172AT-Router-Dust-Extraction/dp/B00005RHPR/ref=sr_1_13?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1355349944&sr=1-13&keywords=Bosch+1617
post #37 of 43
Does the Dust Extraction kit and the Dust Deputy only work with the Bosch with the Fixed base on, not the plunge?
post #38 of 43
Although I love everyone of my Festool tools the routers I bought were both returned in the 30 day return window since I hated the ergonomics... People accuse me of having a router for every bit BUT the absolute best plunge/fixed base kit on the market is the Bosch MRC23 it has become my go to router for 90% of my handheld work (still use the PC 7518 motors in my tables) about the only other handhelds I use are my Bosch Colts and Dewalt Compact 611 plunger. The Bosch 1617 is a venerable workhorse for handhled use and a good value but I have three of them that need to be sold since I got the MRC23.
post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by hardwired View Post

Does the Dust Extraction kit and the Dust Deputy only work with the Bosch with the Fixed base on, not the plunge?
Bosch makes a kit that has a dust collection for the plunge base as well.

http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/boschproductdetail.aspx?pid=RA1173AT
post #40 of 43
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Originally Posted by hardwired View Post

Max,
I'd like to pick up the Bosch 1617 kit off Amazon and I already have a Ridgid shopvac like the one in your setup but I believe I need to replace the filter.
What exactly do I need to get for a Dust Deputy and attachments to the Bosch?
The stock pictures of the Bosch 1617 do not appear to show a dust collection attachment on it and there seems to be a number of Dust Deputy types.
Thanks.

My system is a hodge-podge of miscellaneous parts, but I'll try to describe each part...

Starting from the router, you need the dust collection kit(s) from Bosch, for one or both bases:
* RA1172 for the fixed base: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-RA1172AT-Router-Dust-Extraction/dp/B00005RHPR
* RA1173 for the plunge base: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-RA1173AT-Dust-Extraction-Kit/dp/B00005RHPN

Then I used the 1.25" shop vac hose from my old, broken Genie shop vac. The vac end of the hose already had a plastic expander on it that fits perfectly into the 2.5" connection. You can get a similar hose in an accessory kit such as this one: http://www.amazon.com/Ridgid-VT2534-Auto-Detailing-Kit/dp/B001FS4TWQ/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1355388408&sr=8-8&keywords=ridgid+shop+vac+hose+kit

EDIT: this hose would work, too, and is only $14 at Sears: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917866000P?vName=Tools&cName=WetDryVacs&sName=Filters%20&%20Accessoriesmv=rr

I taped one of the connectors from the following hose kit to the input (side connector) of the Dust Deputy. I also use the hose from this kit when I am vacuuming the floor, etc.:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100016791/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=ridgid+shop+vac+hose&storeId=10051#.UMmXF89QDnY

The Dust Deputy unit itself is the "DIY" version, which means that you only get the cyclone, and I connected to my old, dead Genie shop vac reservoir:
http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD001004&CatId={6EE79B16-EB63-43E7-8F30-1E06240A24A4}

But I would just get one of these more complete Dust Deputy kits if I didn't already have the old, dead shop vac to use as a reservoir:
http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD000004&CatId={6EE79B16-EB63-43E7-8F30-1E06240A24A4}
http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD000010&CatId={6EE79B16-EB63-43E7-8F30-1E06240A24A4}

The reservoir would probably work best if the Deputy was vertical, rather than tilted slightly like it is when I stack the dead shop vac on top of the live shop vac (they are stacked in the picture). But it still works quite well at that angle, and I like the reduced floor space requirements. Maybe the "DIY" Dust Deputy with a regular 5gal bucket and some DIY plywood brackets to hold the bucket vertical would be even better than my stacked-vacs setup, for less cost than the deluxe kits.

The hose between the Dust Deputy and the shop vac is just the hose that came with the shop vac. It fits snugly and does not require any adapters or tape or anything.

To make the vacuum turn on when I turn on the tool, I use a Craftsman AutoSwitch. You plug the tool into the master outlet, plug the vacuum into one of the slave outlets, make sure the vacuum switch is "on", and then the vacuum will run automatically when you turn the tool on. It is a nice convenience for not a lot of money:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-auto-switch/p-00924031000P

That's it. I use it with the regular shop vac attachments, my router, circular saw (Makita saw with Eurekazone dust kit), jigsaw (Bosch, dust collection port doesn't work very well -- but assistant holding vacuum tip near cut works better smile.gif), and benchtop disc/belt sander (Ryobi). It's fun to have a clean shop, and the dust deputy makes it sort of fun to clean up, too, as you watch things swirl around in the translucent cyclone. biggrin.gif

-Max
Edited by maxcooper - 12/13/12 at 1:48am
post #41 of 43
^ Mark, thanks so much for posting. GREAT information there, I've been currently researching the same info. I will have to link this post to my FAQ. biggrin.gif
post #42 of 43
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

The "Save $25.00 when you spend $100.00 or more on Select Bosch Tools" promotion at Amazon pushed me over the edge. I went with the 1617EVSPK.
Thanks for the help in liquidating my bank account. biggrin.gif

Yeah, I just did the same. It seems that the moving company that moved me decided they wanted my router and mitre saw more than I did....

Could not beat this price anywhere near me and Bosch is good stuff.
post #43 of 43
Bosch 1617.
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