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Official Release Date and MSRP in Canada?
post #302 of 482
Thread Starter 
I have no idea maybe rickavmaniac knows ?

In the meantime, here is another opinion about the VW500ES (in English this time for mark wink.gif)

http://www.avforums.com/forums/avforums-news-notices/1812163-ifa-2013-first-look-sony-vpl-vw500-4k-ultra-hd-projector.html
post #303 of 482
13500. End of October. That is confirmed. Of course a better deal can be had. But u know that. smile.gif
post #304 of 482
Note the 2.83 long throw instead of the long throw much shorter I questioned above. 2.83 would be consistent with the zoom ratio of over 2.0 (I forget the official zoom ratio spec) published by Sony.

aso there are errors in the report. The contrast of the 500ES is not higher than the 1000ES. It is lower. Also reading between the lines of the report, the 500ES and 1000ES are not DCI compliant. The color space of the 1000ES with the switchable filter would be the DCI spec and the resolution at 4096 x 2160 is consistent. But the bit length is not. you can not hook up a DCI server either.
Edited by mark haflich - 9/13/13 at 2:10pm
post #305 of 482
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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

13500. End of October. That is confirmed. Of course a better deal can be had. But u know that. smile.gif

Conan is right, end of october and 13.5k MSRP. And the price is negotiable biggrin.gif
post #306 of 482
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I have no idea maybe rickavmaniac knows ?

In the meantime, here is another opinion about the VW500ES (in English this time for mark wink.gif)

http://www.avforums.com/forums/avforums-news-notices/1812163-ifa-2013-first-look-sony-vpl-vw500-4k-ultra-hd-projector.html

Sounds very promising from Steves review!
post #307 of 482
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iIt's also look very promising wink.gif
post #308 of 482
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And the people wich are going to visit CEDIA will exactly knows what I'm talking about. smile.gif (2 weeks left)
post #309 of 482
Actually 12 more days. And Kraine, even I, a master of translating German and French into English, and because of the translation sometimes have no clue as to what you are talking about. smile.gif
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Let´s try in Hungarian if you prefer ? Igen ? wink.gif
post #311 of 482
Kozonom. And I raise you 1000 forints. smile.gif
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Official Release Date and MSRP in Canada?

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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

13500. End of October. That is confirmed. Of course a better deal can be had. But u know that. smile.gif

If it does sell for 13,500 in Canada then that suggests a US price of around $12,999, but I guess we won't know for certain until CEDIA (26 Sept. Sony press conference).
post #313 of 482
You are slowing down. I posted that conversion days ago. It will be interesting to see what Sony does pricing wise.
post #314 of 482
Does anyone know the length of it front to back, the 1000 would not fit on my projection compartment?
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here you go:

VW500.jpg
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Divide mm by 25.4 to get inches.
post #317 of 482
The VW500 is ~18CM (~7 inches) shorter than the VW1000.
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Do we know if the 500 takes an anamorphic lens easier than the 1000 does?
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The VW500 is ~18CM (~7 inches) shorter than the VW1000.

Good this model fits for me!
Lets hope my Schneider M lens will also work rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Good this model fits for me!
Lets hope my Schneider M lens will also work rolleyes.gif

As long as you don't scale the image to the full resolution of the panel you should be fine.
post #321 of 482
Is the lens recessed as far back into the body of the proj as it is with the 1000?
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

As long as you don't scale the image to the full resolution of the panel you should be fine.


What difference here between UHD width and 4K width? The thing you need to do is to be at close to long throw where the size of the exit image is smallest. I doubt UHD or 4K width would make any difference in A lens/projector system performance,
Edited by mark haflich - 9/16/13 at 5:34pm
post #323 of 482
Well, the 1.9:1 aspect ratio of the full panel with a 1.33x anamorphic lens would yield you an image over 2.5:1. So I'm assuming there's a mode to keep aspect ratio of the content on the Sony, no?
post #324 of 482
The present 1000ES has vertical stretch modes of 1.33 and 1.24 or 1.25, I don't remember which. However, they won't work with a UHD or 4K input signal. Not enough number crunching power. The 500 or upgraded 100ES might rectify this but I don't know. The 1.33 anamorphics are 2K lenses and should not be used. Of course they can be, and they don't look that bad, but why bother even if you already own one.


If you must use an anamorphic lens, you need a 1.24w one rated for 4K. Will set you back $15K. Why bother?

BTW The Sony panel is 1.89 not 1.90.

I do see your point that if you use a 1.33w lens you will hit close to the ideal of about 2.37 if you limit the image width to normal on the Sony which is 3840 x 2160 or 1.78 rounded.
post #325 of 482
I rounded up. Even with the .01 difference still yields you an image over 2.5:1 if one were to use a Schneider M lens like he was asking about. You'd definitely need to do 3840 x 2160 like you said. I suppose if one were to use an HTPC you do the appropriate image scaling with 4K content to send the 1000ES and use that lens.

I agree with you though. why spend another $15000 when you could zoom.
post #326 of 482
Brightness?

Anyone tried it (2k lens on 4k proj)? How bad is the quality loss? Can it be digitally corrected?
post #327 of 482
I remember one poster in the VW1000ES thread that I believe used an ISCO with his VW1000ES. If I get this projector, I will be using it with a lens. The projector can't throw a large enough image from my throw distance to fill my screen by zooming.
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post #328 of 482
Hopefully, the hw500s and upgraded hw1000s and can fix chromatic aberration and aspect on 4k.
post #329 of 482
Would AVScience allow you to buy one at cost? Lucky dog!
post #330 of 482
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

I remember one poster in the VW1000ES thread that I believe used an ISCO with his VW1000ES. If I get this projector, I will be using it with a lens. The projector can't throw a large enough image from my throw distance to fill my screen by zooming.

Sounds like you need to cut a hole in your back wall, Mike. Fortunately I have a closet in the back of mine, and the back of the 1000 has to just protrude into it a few inches to allow me to zoom to 144" W for 2.35 pics. It's a near thing; thank goodness for the very short min throw of the 1000.
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