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post #301 of 731
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Originally Posted by psxp View Post

Its built in. There is a sticker on the back of the unit showing the Widi board's details. Also one for Bluetooth... which I guess is for a keyboard??

Great! Thanks for the information.
post #302 of 731
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Originally Posted by psxp View Post

Heres some points:
Picture
Great picture to me out of the box - I guess I have nothing to compare against? ;-) I did go through the Picture wizard thing though and have it set on those settings. Someone mentioned to turn off the power saving mode? Is this a good idea? I did notice clouding or bleeding light in the top right corner.. smile.gif

Yes unless one wants to experience what plasma owners go through at all times keeping the power saving mode off is the best idea. Play with backlight and brightness settings and you should be able to get rid of any noticeable light bleed. You shouldn't have ANY clouding at all.. None when the settings are adjusted properly at least. This TV is much brighter than my older one; I can get a bright enough picture in a dark room using less than 10% backlight!
post #303 of 731
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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

Possible 3D issue??
I have had this tv for 3 days. I have watched maybe 5 3d movies. I have noticed that infrequently I see a quick flash of static. If I rewind it doesn't happen again. Any one else notice this? I am using a PS3 as the Blu ray player. I will switch to another Sony player this weekend to see if it happens. I think it has happened at least once with every movie I have watched. One movie it happened 4-5 times but when I rewound it did not happen.
This only happens during 3d watching. Happened twice in the movie I just watched.
Other than that, the 3d picture is amazing. Every bit as good as my active tv.

Changed the cable and this no longer happens. I think I was using the first hdmi cable I purchased.
post #304 of 731
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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

Changed the cable and this no longer happens. I think I was using the first hdmi cable I purchased.

ah, thats good to know.

I've been quite busy so haven't used the TV much. Watched a couple downloaded SD files via the Mac Mini I use for home theater streaming. Seemed fine. Haven't seen any Soap Opera Effect yet. (I'm not 100% sure what I should be looking for there anyway.)
post #305 of 731
I won the panel lottery! This is my second 7200. First one I bought at Thanksgiving had awful flashlighting took it back and they didn't have another. Just got back there this week and they had three in stock. Thought I would try again and bingo perfect. I really like this TV it's the fifth TV I have tried.

First LG 4700, Vizio 60", LG 7200, Samsung 7003 and again the LG7200. The Samsung was the best for no light bleeding but the picture was awful.

I still have the Vizio here and will take it back to Walmart this week. It has a really nice picture on it but takes 18 seconds to come on and that is a deal breaker.
I think I will be happy with the 7200 and at $1498 what's not to love
post #306 of 731
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Originally Posted by LDBetaGuy View Post

Great! Thanks for the information.

here is a link to a list of LG Supported keyboards. (I dont know if the Lm7200 supports this list)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384030/wireless-keyboard-for-lg-smart-tv
post #307 of 731
What is the "Live Plus" setting that is listed in the LG "Option" menu? I can't find a reference to it anywhere.
post #308 of 731
I read through some of the posts through here and it sounds like the general consensus is that you guys like this TV right?

I am trading up from an 55LS4500 to the 60LM7200. I am expecting huge differences between the two of course smile.gif

How was picture out of the box?
post #309 of 731
i have the logitech k400 wireless keyboard and the logitech vx nano wireless mouse, both work great with the lm 7600...one would think they would also work with the lm7200, but cant say for sure.
post #310 of 731
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Originally Posted by rer420 View Post

i have the logitech k400 wireless keyboard and the logitech vx nano wireless mouse, both work great with the lm 7600...one would think they would also work with the lm7200, but cant say for sure.

Do you use the USB dongle to connect it to the TV or somehow sync'd them?

I have a logitech mouse somewhere, and a Mac BT Keyboard. I doubt the keyboard will work.
post #311 of 731
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Originally Posted by scrimp View Post

I read through some of the posts through here and it sounds like the general consensus is that you guys like this TV right?

I am trading up from an 55LS4500 to the 60LM7200. I am expecting huge differences between the two of course smile.gif

How was picture out of the box?

Picture for me out of the box was great. The only thing I dont like too much is the screen was more reflective than I thought it would be. I have light bleeding in the top right and a little in the top left corner but doesnt affect TV viewing when content is displayed. I guess all LEDs have this to some degree. Got to love 60". I came from a 42" Toshiba Regza that has great picture quality.

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post #312 of 731
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Originally Posted by psxp View Post

Do you use the USB dongle to connect it to the TV or somehow sync'd them?

I have a logitech mouse somewhere, and a Mac BT Keyboard. I doubt the keyboard will work.

yes both the keyboard and the mouse have a tiny usb receiver that plugs into the usb port on the tv.
there is a trackpad on the keyboard as well that works just fine but i prefer using the mouse when browsing because it has hyper scrolling.
post #313 of 731
Well my 7200 keeps turning itself on and off now. Luckily it's still under warranty but damn I was fairly satisfied with the flashlighting etc
post #314 of 731
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Originally Posted by psxp View Post

Picture for me out of the box was great. The only thing I dont like too much is the screen was more reflective than I thought it would be. I have light bleeding in the top right and a little in the top left corner but doesnt affect TV viewing when content is displayed. I guess all LEDs have this to some degree. Got to love 60". I came from a 42" Toshiba Regza that has great picture quality.

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This TV is leaps and bounds better than the 55LS4500 I just upgraded from. The blacks levels are actually black smile.gif

I tried using the picture wizard to set things up, but it made things to dark for my liking and just reset it back to default settings.

I also noticed the 240Hz is unbearable when playing Black Ops II, so I had to turn it off for that.

Otherwise, picture quality is superb especially out of the box, but I am sure I will be tweaking it some here and there, but nothing like what I did with the 55LS4500.

I think the remote is actually pretty decent. Im more impressed that it can control both my Sony-DN1000 and Uverse box with little setup at all.

The HDMI-CEC switching is kinda funky at times, but is manageable. The magic remote can turn my receiver on, but it does not default to my HDMI1, which is the TV.

The apps are cool, but I dont see myself using those often because I really didnt buy this TV for anything else but picture. Not big on the 3D and smart features. I just considered those as perks that came with the TV.
post #315 of 731
Thread Starter 
Sound Bars

what sound bars do you guys recc with this TV? I want something that is a mid-range price and there are so many options, idk which to get?

thanks!


p.s. this I made this thread and it is my most successful thread ever lol
post #316 of 731
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Originally Posted by JSmith7309 View Post

Does anyone else see that when you use the magic remote and when the bar appears along the top in the top right it says 16:9 10801i 60HZ.. why 60HZ??? I thought it was supposed to be 240HZ Anyone know why or if you can change it somehow? Thanks!!

AVSForum should have in their posting software an automatic pattern match for this one single question. It's not enough to make it a sticky. I'm seeing it left right up and down, not just here, but everywhere on the web. I'm not ridiculing you: for the layman it's not intuitive.
post #317 of 731
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Originally Posted by rexian96 View Post

Thanks, I recently bought 55LM7600 from BB and still wondering if I should get this one. LG site says the thickness is 1.7" but your bottom photos show over 2" (almost 3" for the speakers). Am I reading it right? The specs on LG site not reliable, can't believe the stand weighs 24 lbs.

The pictures posted show 1" to 2.5". LG is probably averaging these to have one number publishable on sites that allow only 1 number. (1+2.5)/2 = 1.75" The rule is probably "round down for thickness, but round up for screen size", hence the 1.7". smile.gif Or perhaps the speaker width is actually closer to 2.4", which would put this at 1.7 average.
post #318 of 731
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Originally Posted by obiwandado View Post



Last pic shows the raised bezel.

If it's as it seems, that's actually showing a flush bezel. The outer most rim (note: that's *not* the entirety of the bezel) looks recessed 1mm, with the bezel and screen being on precisely the same facing plane 1mm closer to you than the outer rim.
post #319 of 731
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Originally Posted by obiwandado View Post

Yeah, nothing wrong with the TV, not all broadcasts are at the TV's full potential.

You'll never get anything sent in faster that 60Hz. *NO* broadcasts ever will reach the 240Hz. Further, your TV cannot even TAKE anything exceeding 60Hz in even if you found a source that produced it. 240Hz is an internal refresh, not 1:1 from the source.

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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

that was because of the braodcast signal from the station or from the cable. watch bluray and it waill say 1080p/24p

That 24fps is only if the BluRay is playing a movie at it's (almost always) original recording FPS (24). BD can reach 60Hz (I've never seen that for some reason), depending upon what it's doing. None of the Comcast STB's I've seen have ever exceeded 1080i (<——NOTE the i) 30FPS (60 interlaced "half" frames per second)----It's up to the TV to report this how it likes, but almost always 60Hz.
Edited by tgm1024 - 1/11/13 at 12:31pm
post #320 of 731
I apologize
I'm currently wading through 300+ posts, and it's hard to tell what's been covered. When I discover duplicated material, I'll go back and delete my stuff to clean up the thread.
post #321 of 731
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Originally Posted by sondlen View Post

Well my 7200 keeps turning itself on and off now. Luckily it's still under warranty but damn I was fairly satisfied with the flashlighting etc
If it's what I think it is, it's a common problem with the 7600 and 8600 series too. It's related to the internet and updates, or something I still don't understand. Most solve it by turning off either auto-updates, or some shutting down of the internet connectivity or something. Look at the XXLM7600 thread.
post #322 of 731
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

Your question is asked so often because many buyers are unfamiliar with the common ways most sets work--i.e. the info bar shows the incoming picture information rather than the actual display resolution, This fact is usually hard to find in owner's manuals so it's easy to be confused. Better to ask a question than continue to be concerned about an issue--I often deal with customers who are not as expert as some around here and one of the first things I tell them is that there's really no such thing as a dumb question.

I sell tvs for a living and am a recent purchaser of another, but similar, LG set and am quite happy with mine and share your enthusiasm, It's always nice to hear from someone who's basically happy with their new toy!

Actually that 60FPS you mentioned is actually 60Hz, which is 30FPS when from an interlaced source such as comcast's STB (1080i). You're getting 60 half-frames (interlaced) a second which = 30FPS. So that 60Hz you're talking isn't always 60FPS. Note: this is an endless argument too: many times an interlaced (half) frame is considered as a frame conversationally/colloquially. It gets horribly confusing, especially when we're now (thankfully) so FPS conscious, thanks to James Cameron and the like.
post #323 of 731
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

If it's what I think it is, it's a common problem with the 7600 and 8600 series too. It's related to the internet and updates, or something I still don't understand. Most solve it by turning off either auto-updates, or some shutting down of the internet connectivity or something. Look at the XXLM7600 thread.

I think I will be turning off auto updates thats for sure. I did one as soon as I got my TV set up, but I think that will be the last one for a long time. I dont wanna be a guinea pig for them lol.
post #324 of 731
Seriously thinking about this TV or the $1000 Vizio 60".
Is there a specific build date that I should be looking for and why on earth does it only seem to be available at Best Buy?
post #325 of 731
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Originally Posted by dsayed View Post

Seriously thinking about this TV or the $1000 Vizio 60".
Is there a specific build date that I should be looking for and why on earth does it only seem to be available at Best Buy?

I don't know why it's primarily there right now. I've found it at a couple other places, but very few.

It's very new (November I think). It could be that LG, with their perpetual need to price control things to bias the brick&mortar stores, as a pre-release program for certain retailers. But I would only be guessing. Note too that it's only $100 off. Someone here mentioned that the discounts start mid February for it. Beats me if that's true or not. As most of the new 2013 models start rolling out (from now through April mostly?), this and other 2012 models will fall dramatically. I think.
post #326 of 731
I had a 50 inch xvt vizio plasma for the last 4 years and its been good, so I had planned on buying a 65 vizio but this lg specs and passive 3d reviews swayed me into buying this set today fro abt.com i wont have it for another week but im in ca and i saved tax and they gave me $50 off so $1649 and I hope I'm a happy camper come next friday.
post #327 of 731
Hmmm...thinking I will be okay if I get one at BB since I have my silver membership through 2/28 and they have a 60 day price match policy for silver members.

dsayed - I am in the same boat. I was strongly considering the Vizio 601-a3 and getting that at Costco or Nebraska Furniture Mart but I seem to be drawn to the LM7200. I want a 60" or 65" and the more I look at the LM7200 the more I like it. The glass looks and seems better but it is more reflective as well - but that is not a problem where I am placing it. I think the off center viewing was better on it to. Then I thought about the 65" Vizio w/3D and I still like the LG better.

So if the other BB in town has one tomorrow I am 95% sure I will be picking one up. Wife will hate me for the new toy but what's new. smile.gif
post #328 of 731
Thanks for the replies. Spent some quality time at both Costco and Best Buy today.
I like the bezel of the LG better than the Vizio. The Vizio claims a slim/narrow bezel but compared to the LG it isn't (at least to my eyes). Unfortunately, the Best Buy display had the LG mounted high up on the wall, which made it difficult to make any side by side comparisons especially since the Vizio was around the corner smile.gif I also like the menu system of the LG and their on-screen calibration. On the other hand, this is something I'd do rarely so it shouldn't sway me.
I don't like the bulge for the speakers at the rear on the lower part of the LG. I'd really rather not have speakers at all since I'll be driving through an AVR, soundbar, sub and sats and I very much doubt that the internal speakers are removable. I'm also not sold on the remote but since I'm going to drive everything with either a Logitech Harmony or Control 4 device I'm not sure that it is a factor.
I do like that the Vizio has Amazon Instant Video (but that could be added to the LG any number of other ways) and I love that I can get it from Costco for $979 which includes Costco's 2 year warranty, which can be upgraded to 5 years for $60 or so.
Realistically I'm in no rush (moving into a new house) so I could easily wait until February/March and as time has shown these things never really go up in price especially since they're basically selling for MSRP at the moment.
post #329 of 731
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Originally Posted by dsayed View Post

Thanks for the replies. Spent some quality time at both Costco and Best Buy today.
I like the bezel of the LG better than the Vizio. The Vizio claims a slim/narrow bezel but compared to the LG it isn't (at least to my eyes). Unfortunately, the Best Buy display had the LG mounted high up on the wall, which made it difficult to make any side by side comparisons especially since the Vizio was around the corner smile.gif I also like the menu system of the LG and their on-screen calibration. On the other hand, this is something I'd do rarely so it shouldn't sway me.
I don't like the bulge for the speakers at the rear on the lower part of the LG. I'd really rather not have speakers at all since I'll be driving through an AVR, soundbar, sub and sats and I very much doubt that the internal speakers are removable. I'm also not sold on the remote but since I'm going to drive everything with either a Logitech Harmony or Control 4 device I'm not sure that it is a factor.
I do like that the Vizio has Amazon Instant Video (but that could be added to the LG any number of other ways) and I love that I can get it from Costco for $979 which includes Costco's 2 year warranty, which can be upgraded to 5 years for $60 or so.
Realistically I'm in no rush (moving into a new house) so I could easily wait until February/March and as time has shown these things never really go up in price especially since they're basically selling for MSRP at the moment.

I have to say this here just in case it helps give you something to look for. Every Vizio model I've ever seen has a terrible picture during motion. It's difficult with the BestBuy canned feeds to tell, even side by side, but they'll occasionally connect it to a comcast STB. This gives you a good sense as to what is going on. Wait and watch for a simple panning scene, and you'll see substantial blur on the Vizio. Perhaps it's just me, and I don't want to tank what might be a perfect buy for you (Vizio does have its undying fans just like all manufacturers) but to me the image is distinctly inferior.
post #330 of 731
By the way, it's not a deal breaker for me, but is anyone else really bothered by that sensor lump on the bottom right of the bezel like I am? It totally ruins the lines of the thing. LG makes something nice looking, and then tacks on something to make it look lopsided?

I think I'm a geometric purist. I don't even like that dew-drop in the middle of the bottom bezel of LG's latest models....
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