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post #31 of 134
The majority of effects in Star Trek TNG were practical effects that just needed to be recomposited from the original film elements. Almost all of the FX in The X-Files were low-res CGI that would need to be completely re-rendered. This is a completely different situation.

That said, The X-Files has a lot less FX work per episode than Star Trek.
post #32 of 134
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The majority of effects in Star Trek TNG were practical effects that just needed to be recomposited from the original film elements. Almost all of the FX in The X-Files were low-res CGI that would need to be completely re-rendered. This is a completely different situation.

That said, The X-Files has a lot less FX work per episode than Star Trek.

Many of those practical effects have CG incorporated into them in some form or another (ship's phasers, lights, etc.). Also, some of the effects have been replaced or enhanced with CG.

I still don't buy that the effort for X-Files is comparable.
post #33 of 134
Star Trek is a huge franchise in syndication. That is the only reason they went to the expense and trouble of restoring everything from scratch for Star Trek TNG. The X-Files is not really a comparable brand.
post #34 of 134
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

Star Trek is a huge franchise in syndication. That is the only reason they went to the expense and trouble of restoring everything from scratch for Star Trek TNG. The X-Files is not really a comparable brand.

Season 1-6 of The X-Files were usually some damn fine television programming compared to the tripe we usually get today (like the bastard stepchild called Fringe). After the alien mythology story got changed one too many times and the money squabble with Duchovny led to his firing, the series did take a nose dive. However, there were still some hidden gems to be found in Seasons 7-9. X-Files' conclusion, like the Seinfeld finale, was one of the worst TV series endings in the history of the small screen, sadly.

I would hope Fox would spend some time and effort to rescan the film elements at 4k and spiffy up the SFX and release them on BD and UHD when that format gets going.
post #35 of 134
Amen.
post #36 of 134
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Season 1-6 of The X-Files were usually some damn fine television programming compared to the tripe we usually get today (like the bastard stepchild called Fringe). After the alien mythology story got changed one too many times and the money squabble with Duchovny led to his firing, the series did take a nose dive. However, there were still some hidden gems to be found in Seasons 7-9. X-Files' conclusion, like the Seinfeld finale, was one of the worst TV series endings in the history of the small screen, sadly.

Of those series, S1-2 and S6 are my favourites. The latter especially, as it's native wide-screen format.

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I would hope Fox would spend some time and effort to rescan the film elements at 4k and spiffy up the SFX and release them on BD and UHD when that format gets going.

Indeed.
post #37 of 134
My X Files DVD's are some of my most watched. I often put a disc in and watch an episode or two. The first few seasons do look pretty bad though.
post #38 of 134
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

Season 1-6 of The X-Files were usually some damn fine television programming compared to the tripe we usually get today (like the bastard stepchild called Fringe). After the alien mythology story got changed one too many times and the money squabble with Duchovny led to his firing, the series did take a nose dive. However, there were still some hidden gems to be found in Seasons 7-9. X-Files' conclusion, like the Seinfeld finale, was one of the worst TV series endings in the history of the small screen, sadly.

I would hope Fox would spend some time and effort to rescan the film elements at 4k and spiffy up the SFX and release them on BD and UHD when that format gets going.
No one is arguing the show isn't great (well, for the most part, anyway)...

It's just that, when was the last time you saw it airing in syndication?

That's the issue: selling it to someone after the work is done. The greatest show in history won't get the love it needs if no one wants to pay for the rights to show it.

Heck, I loved the show, but at the prices they'll want for it, there's no way I'll rebuy it when I already own it on DVD. Quality or not.
post #39 of 134
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The majority of effects in Star Trek TNG were practical effects that just needed to be recomposited from the original film elements. Almost all of the FX in The X-Files were low-res CGI that would need to be completely re-rendered. This is a completely different situation.

So, even things such as the vampire green eyes on during the Bad Blood episode were CGI?

One I looked up was an oil-well explosion. Wasn't CGI, but rather a physical effect using flammable liquids.

Another episode, they used wires to simulate worms crawling through someone.
Edited by magnetite - 5/29/13 at 10:07pm
post #40 of 134
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So, even things such as the vampire green eyes on during the Bad Blood episode were CGI?

One I looked up was an oil-well explosion. Wasn't CGI, but rather a physical effect using flammable liquids.

Another episode, they used wires to simulate worms crawling through someone.

I'm not saying that the show didn't use any practical effects, but it certainly did use CGI whenever it could.
post #41 of 134
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I'm not saying that the show didn't use any practical effects, but it certainly did use CGI whenever it could.

Sorry, I misread your post, as "almost all were CGI effects". My mistake.
post #42 of 134
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Originally Posted by magnetite View Post

Sorry, I misread your post, as "almost all were CGI effects". My mistake.

I probably could have worded it better.
post #43 of 134
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I probably could have worded it better.
I like to use words like "many" or "a lot". There's less chance of someone doing the math and refuting your "most". wink.gif

I spent too many years as a news shooter recording the comments of various lawyers and political types to be exact.... biggrin.gif
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post #45 of 134
Those look incredible compared to the current SD releases. It will be interesting to see how the later seasons shot in California (with more FX work) compare. The X-Files was probably my favorite show, but those later seasons were tough to slog through as it became more "epic". The whole style and pacing of the show changed and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much. I haven't rewatched it in a long, long time. However, I will probably buy this set (when/if it comes out) if only to get my favorite seasons and episodes and to promote the HD releases of my other favorite TV shows.

On that topic - the wife and I have been rewatching Stargate SG-1 from the beginning and despite many alien worlds looking a lot like the Pacific Northwest, I really love the style of 90s TV shows filmed in Canada (there were so many!). There's just so much atmosphere in the outdoor shots, the landscapes are beautiful, and the lighting really sets the mood in a natural way (without post processed CGI tweaking). Truly dark night shots, subdued day shots. Perhaps it's just part of the grunge era, but the shows really have an earthy feel to them... slower pacing, too. So much more than that, after watching modern shows I really appreciate NOT seeing "dirty" camera work. No shaky cam, no absurd focal changes, no wobbly closeups. Many of the CGI shots are terrible by modern standards, but at least they serve a purpose by assisting the storytelling and aren't just eye-candy filler (they couldn't afford it!). By no means am I saying that modern TV shows aren't good, just that they could learn a thing or two from that decade. /soapbox
post #46 of 134
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Those look incredible compared to the current SD releases.
Indeed, or especially compared to original US broadcasts. Are there are plans to release this HD work to Blu-ray?
post #47 of 134
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Indeed, or especially compared to original US broadcasts. Are there are plans to release this HD work to Blu-ray?

If not Blu-ray, it will be available for syndication or some form a digital download (Amazon/iTunes). They wouldn't be going back to the negatives to remaster it without some plan to recover those costs. What I'd really like to know is if they intend a 4K release. I have to admit, now that the BDA has officially announced its pursuit of 4K Blu-ray, I'm going to hold out before buying boring ol' 1080p. wink.gif
post #48 of 134
I found this article on the release of the X-files on blu-ray. Can't wait for the full release.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/the-rumor-mill/010814-update
post #49 of 134
twin peaks available in Australia?

where do I sign up!
post #50 of 134
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I found this article on the release of the X-files on blu-ray. Can't wait for the full release.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/the-rumor-mill/010814-update

AND Pee-Wee's Playhouse? biggrin.gif
post #51 of 134
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twin peaks available in Australia?

where do I sign up!

Twin Peaks is expected to be released in the U.S. this year. David Lynch recently shot a promo spot for it with some of the original actors.
post #52 of 134
^TY
post #53 of 134
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^TY

Welcome to Twin Peaks has a video of Lynch himself announcing the Blu-ray.
post #54 of 134
What about MULHOLLAND DR?
post #55 of 134
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Twin Peaks is expected to be released in the U.S. this year. David Lynch recently shot a promo spot for it with some of the original actors.
That figures. I haven't even opened my box set of DVDs yet!

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post #56 of 134
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Originally Posted by kronikreality View Post

I found this article on the release of the X-files on blu-ray. Can't wait for the full release.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/the-rumor-mill/010814-update

Getting Buffy The Vampire Slayer on Blu-Ray too, oddly enough. They have been re-mastering the show for HD and it has been shown on FX Network, starting from the first season.
post #57 of 134
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Welcome to Twin Peaks has a video of Lynch himself announcing the Blu-ray.

so close you can almost taste the cherry pie!

thankfully I have all those soundtracks on LP.
post #58 of 134
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What about MULHOLLAND DR?

Getting a little off topic here, but Mulholland Drive is controlled by Universal in North America. Universal hasn't indicated much interest in releasing it. I think in a best case scenario, they might license it to Criterion. Universal is pretty friendly with Criterion, and we know that Criterion has been working with Lynch on Eraserhead, so Mulholland Drive would make a great tie-in opportunity for that. Unfortunately, I haven't even heard any rumors of this.

Outside of North America, the film is owned by Studio Canal. A Region B locked Blu-ray is available in Europe that has a respectable enough transfer. There's also a Region A release in Japan, but I haven't seen that one.
post #59 of 134
HTV illuminate is doing the X Files.
I'm sorry.
post #60 of 134
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Getting a little off topic here, but Mulholland Drive is controlled by Universal in North America. Universal hasn't indicated much interest in releasing it. I think in a best case scenario, they might license it to Criterion. Universal is pretty friendly with Criterion, and we know that Criterion has been working with Lynch on Eraserhead, so Mulholland Drive would make a great tie-in opportunity for that. Unfortunately, I haven't even heard any rumors of this.

Outside of North America, the film is owned by Studio Canal. A Region B locked Blu-ray is available in Europe that has a respectable enough transfer. There's also a Region A release in Japan, but I haven't seen that one.

ORDERED!!!!
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