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SVS PB10-NSD or PA-150

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
there is one SVS PB10-NSD semi local to me, it is the older model without the crossover, cant really find too much info on it. what do you guys think is a fair price to offer? it looks like it in good condition. actually just found this:



so i guess they were only 400$ new?
so maybe 200?

or do i buy the PA-150 for 325$ new?

Edited by Mikullla - 11/15/12 at 1:52pm
post #2 of 15
I used to own a PB10-NSD and it was a very impressive sub. cool.gif IMO, a fair price for a gently-used PB10 in 100% working order and very good (or better) cosmetic condition would be ~$300.
Edited by eljaycanuck - 11/14/12 at 9:04am
post #3 of 15
I personally would't pay that much for it, esp considering the price new. But I also got mine for a steal of $100 off CL, anyway, so your miles may vary.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
how do you think this compares to a PA-150? they're 350 shipped new?
post #5 of 15
Not too familiar with the PA, but from what I've read, the PB10 will definitely dig deeper, but the PA should have a good deal more output, esp above 30 Hz.
post #6 of 15
There's some good information on the PA-150 here (data-bass.com).
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
i've read that over and over and over. i live in a condo with a room approx 2000 cubic feet. i wish i could find some measurements on the pb10-nsd. when i called svs ed said it was close to the current pb12-nsd, maybe a few db lower, said it was a real over achiever for its size. i gotta see what i can get the guy down to . the svs pb10 is just out of warranty and maybe if he lets it go for 150 or 175 i'll pick it up. but i hear great things about the pa-150.
post #8 of 15
Here's a link to an old test of the PB10. It's not an apples to apples comparo to the info on Data-Bass (different standards, etc) but the reviewer was long considered the standard in sub testing.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Mikullla View Post

i wish i could find some measurements on the pb10-nsd.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/subwoofer-tests-archived/994-svs-pb10-isd-2nd-unit.html#axzz2CFD4Ycyg

Ask and ye shall receive.

Edit: Beat to the punch by a measly 4 seconds tongue.gif As wtf718 mentions, you can't exactly treat it as apples to apples, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what kind of performance you can get from it. Measurements are at 2 meters ground plane, just like Ricci's.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks guys. it looks like it beats the pa-150 by 2-3 db at 20hz but by 25 they are about equal and then the pa-150 takes off from there. decisions. i missed out on a 2 pb12-nsd local, one for 120$ and one for 275, maybe i'll just hold off and wait. decisions decisions decisions.
post #11 of 15
I will say this--that's a GREAT sub for the money, esp if you can get it for a good price. I was very happy with it while I was using it. I got output flat to 17 Hz in my room. You will hear some port noise if you push it really hard. If it's the ISD (older model) the driver was very similar to the SVS Plus models out at that time. The NSD had a slightly less beefy driver, but some amp enhancements that made the overall performance a wash. I think they stopped making it because it was cannibalizing the PB12s available at the time--90% of the performance for several hundred less.

If you can get them to come down on the price, it's a great value.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
well i offered him 150$, it would cost me around 60$ in gas and tolls to pick it up, not to mention the 4 hour round trip time. i am just a little leery of buying used, especially when there is no warranty and black friday coming up and knowing the PA-150 goes on sale every so often for 300 shipped new with warranty. And the after 25hz the PA-150 really beats it bad nit knowing what my room gain is either. it will be mated with an onkyo 609, energy rc-10 fronts , Energy lcr and minis for surround for now. or i might just keep scouring the used market.
post #13 of 15
If you're not comfortable buying used, that probably should be s strong consideration. Plus there is something to be said about having a lot more output at 30 and above. Yes, there is a lot of content below 30, but if you're strong to that point it should be good enough to get much of what the directors intend.
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
well i offered him 150$ and he said he'd take 175$, decisions. still looking at all the graphs and trying to decide.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Mikullla View Post

well i offered him 150$ and he said he'd take 175$, decisions. still looking at all the graphs and trying to decide.

FWIW, I'd probably pass on the PB10. It was a good sub (I owned one and thought it was good at least biggrin.gif), but given the financial cost as well as the cost in time, I'd say it's probably not worth it for an out of warranty sub.
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