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post #121 of 228
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Originally Posted by malvado78 View Post


Can't wait for the patch to the black hat so Mookie will quit stealing my carepackages. biggrin.gif

Care Package Truce!!! Between you and I at least...my count says I still need to steal 3 of Larry's!

First couple weeks I wasn't so sure about this game, but now I'm liking it. KD is climbing and after changing that connection setting everything is clean and working 95% of the time.
post #122 of 228
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Care Package Truce!!! Between you and I at least...my count says I still need to steal 3 of Larry's!
First couple weeks I wasn't so sure about this game, but now I'm liking it. KD is climbing and after changing that connection setting everything is clean and working 95% of the time.

Yeah yeah I know just giving you hard time.tongue.gif
post #123 of 228
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Care Package Truce!!! Between you and I at least...my count says I still need to steal 3 of Larry's!
First couple weeks I wasn't so sure about this game, but now I'm liking it. KD is climbing and after changing that connection setting everything is clean and working 95% of the time.
Unfortunately I don't run care package. Why equip when I can just steal yours smile.gif
post #124 of 228
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Originally Posted by OoBIGLo0 View Post

Unfortunately I don't run care package. Why equip when I can just steal yours smile.gif

There he is!
post #125 of 228
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

There he is!

LOL.....I actually work with Malvado78. We sit in a lab like 3 feet away from each other. I have persuaded into joining the forum biggrin.gif
post #126 of 228
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Originally Posted by OoBIGLo0 View Post

LOL.....I actually work with Malvado78. We sit in a lab like 3 feet away from each other. I have persuaded into joining the forum biggrin.gif

We could hold hands all day... (but we dont).
post #127 of 228
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Originally Posted by malvado78 View Post

We could hold hands all day... (but we dont).

Great, not only do you guys occupy my evenings, now we're going to talk COD all day. This could be bad.
post #128 of 228
Patch is out. Touched quite a bit. Below is the Weapon Balancing but there is a much longer list.
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Scorestreaks:

UAV: cost increased from 350 to 425.
Lightning Strike: added 750ms delay
Equipment/grenades:
Bouncing Betty: increased the grace period between trigger and activation by 200ms.
Sensor Grenade: increased the range (now 1000 units), frequency (now 800ms between pings), and amount of time (now 6s) that players appear after explosion.
Concussion Grenade: decreased movement penalty and turn speed penalty when hit.

SMGs:

All: increased hip fire recoil.
All: increased max hip fire spread from 4.75 to 5.
All: reduced bullet penetration.
MSMC: increased recoil slightly.
PDW-57: increased recoil slightly.

Assault rifles:

All: reduced idle sway for more reliable long-range aiming.
XM8: reduced lethal range of 3-hit kills from 250 to 50 inches.
XM8 + Select Fire: increased recoil.
FAL OSW + Select Fire: increased recoil.
SWAT-556 + Select Fire: increased recoil.
MTAR: Made auto aim values consistent with all other assault rifles.

Sniper Rifles:

All: increased hip fire spread.
All + Laser Sight: increased hip fire spread.
XPR-50: increased recoil slightly.

Shotguns:

R870: reduced one-hit kill range by 45 inches.

Pistols

B23R: reduced headshot multiplier from 1.4 to 1.
KAP-40: reduced headshot multiplier from 1.4 to 1

Details are here (as well as on Treyarchs site this is just the first place I found it):
http://www.examiner.com/article/first-major-black-ops-2-patch-adjust-weapon-stats-fixes-bugs

Apparently the XM8 is really the M8A1. Will wait to see how the gins feel post patch before I rage about the changes. wink.gif
post #129 of 228
So... MORE quick scope sniper damage. Great.
post #130 of 228
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Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post

So... MORE quick scope sniper damage. Great.

Not sure I understand. They increased the hipfire spread which only makes them less accurate when hip firing...
post #131 of 228
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Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post

So... MORE quick scope sniper damage. Great.

What are you reading where you are gathering that there will be more quick scope sniper damage? Second, a quick scope usually one shots you anyway, but im not seeing anything about any sniper buffs
post #132 of 228
I don't like the sound of most of the patch at all. Although Larry stole another one of my care packages last night so I do like that part.
post #133 of 228
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I don't like the sound of most of the patch at all. Although Larry stole another one of my care packages last night so I do like that part.

LOL....I let up one earlier last night (that would have made 2 biggrin.gif ). I actually did not realize it was you i was stealing from. It has become an instinct to pull out my black hat whenever I hear UAV or care package. And you shouldn't talk.....I recall hearing some guy raging when mblaylock took his stealth chopper, i think it went a little something like this:

"You have got to be kidding me. Thats the eighth one tonight. Who black hatted my care package......(10 secs later)...... BLAYLOCK )(#R)(R*W)(R*(WR)(*WR)(*R)(W*()R*(
post #134 of 228
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I don't like the sound of most of the patch at all. Although Larry stole another one of my care packages last night so I do like that part.

I hear you. But that is why I said I'd need to play to see how everything was effected. Some of the changes may be miniscule. SMG hip fire spread increase is like a 5% increase...

An interesting quote they had at the link from Vonderhaar on how nerfs/buffs are decided on:
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"How gameplay balance decisions are made. Math + Feedback = Tuning. But mostly math. Sometimes what you have to say and the math agree. Sometimes, they do not agree. Where they agree is that hipfire SMGs needed to get de-tuned. True story. I couldn't pay people to use SMGs in development. When the game came out, I couldn't pay people to use anything else. They get nerfed a bit. But some ARs get buffed. Some equipment gets detuned. The patch notes tells you exactly what these changes are. Although I think I crashed the forums. Again. Sorry about that. The guys are looking into it that right now. I'm excited and scared about the game tuning changes. This is the not the first or last time we'll touch it. It's the hardest and most rewarding part of the job. Finally. Math is cool. Stay in school. I'll talk to you all soon."
post #135 of 228
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Originally Posted by OoBIGLo0 View Post

LOL....I let up one earlier last night (that would have made 2 biggrin.gif ). I actually did not realize it was you i was stealing from. It has become an instinct to pull out my black hat whenever I hear UAV or care package. And you shouldn't talk.....I recall hearing some guy raging when mblaylock took his stealth chopper, i think it went a little something like this:
"You have got to be kidding me. Thats the eighth one tonight. Who black hatted my care package......(10 secs later)...... BLAYLOCK )(#R)(R*W)(R*(WR)(*WR)(*R)(W*()R*(

That was funny. I took out my anger at you on him. Wrong place wrong time buddy!
post #136 of 228
I'll be on later tonight. Add me...conspiracy
post #137 of 228
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Originally Posted by jayoldschool View Post

So... MORE quick scope sniper damage. Great.

No, that's not true.
post #138 of 228
Livid. I am absolutely livid.

Thursday my K/D was 1.18.

Sunday afternoon it's .88.

They nerfed the bejebus out of my SWAT AR.

Bettys are now frickin' worthless.

Watching some of the lag comps in killcams are just REDONK-YOU-LUSSSSS! Whatever advantage I picked up by switching to BEST connection is gone.


GYYYYYAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
post #139 of 228
Was up to 1.13
Unlocked the Scar -H, went down to 1.10. The recoil was ridiculous. Lost my nerves.
Switch back to my type 25 and back up to 1.12.

I had so much good expectation of the scar H like in mw3.
post #140 of 228
Played a few games last night (literally have to force myself to play other games besides Far Cry 3, it's SO good) - and I kept it pretty consistent, my KDR staying at 1.07.

I'm just a level and a half away from Prestiging. I've never done that before, what do you guys recommend is the best avenue to take? (Leaning towards a permanant unlock)
post #141 of 228
Played some domination last night was trying out the MK48. Had a great time and my K/D was slightly over 1 with it. No real issues with lag. Host migration at times, but overall had a great time.
post #142 of 228
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Originally Posted by Chairman7w View Post

Played a few games last night (literally have to force myself to play other games besides Far Cry 3, it's SO good) - and I kept it pretty consistent, my KDR staying at 1.07.
I'm just a level and a half away from Prestiging. I've never done that before, what do you guys recommend is the best avenue to take? (Leaning towards a permanant unlock)

FYI.. They changed the prestige rewards this game. You automatically get a permanent unlock. You additionally get the choice between +1 Custom Class, Reset all used unlock tokens in a prestige, or resetting your stats.

My first unlock I used on the Black Hat and the second on the M8A1. Others I would consider are Scavenger, Ghost, and the AN94. Eventually I will probably even use on on Engineer even though it is such a low unlock but I run it on every class.
post #143 of 228
Unless it's a high-level unlock, it seems like a waste to unlock something. Maybe Ghost.
post #144 of 228
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Originally Posted by Chairman7w View Post

Unless it's a high-level unlock, it seems like a waste to unlock something. Maybe Ghost.

I'm going to unlock the msmc my next prestige. As its one of my favorite weapons.
post #145 of 228
I'm never leaving my Engineer perk....So many times I died because of the bouncing betty which is abused lol.
post #146 of 228
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Originally Posted by MaxDam77 View Post

I'm never leaving my Engineer perk....So many times I died because of the bouncing betty which is abused lol.

Well you can leave it now. Bouncing Bettys take longer to get off than my wife. Glaciers trip faster.
post #147 of 228
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Originally Posted by cshawnmcdonald View Post

Well you can leave it now. Bouncing Bettys take longer to get off than my wife. Glaciers trip faster.

LOL!!!
post #148 of 228
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Originally Posted by Chairman7w View Post

Unless it's a high-level unlock, it seems like a waste to unlock something. Maybe Ghost.

I usually use my tokens to support the way I play the game. If there is a high level weapon or equipment the I never use it is a waste of a token. I usually try to get to max level and play around with as many weapons/equipment as possible, in order to get a good feel for everything. That way when i prestige I pretty much know what i want to use my tokens on. In my opinion the most value equipment/guns/perks are blackhat, scavenger, engineer, PDW-57, MSMC, FAL, M8A41, LSW, KSG. I've been tryinig but I don't really do sniper rifles smile.gif
post #149 of 228
QUESTION: Is there a payoff on the FAL when it goes full full auto?

I've heard a lot of good things about the FAL, but JEEBUS MCCHRISTMAS... It's slow. It's an AR that fires slower than a pistol. Somebody convince me that leveling up this pain in the tukus is worth watching my K/D slide even lower.
post #150 of 228
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Originally Posted by cshawnmcdonald View Post

QUESTION: Is there a payoff on the FAL when it goes full full auto?
I've heard a lot of good things about the FAL, but JEEBUS MCCHRISTMAS... It's slow. It's an AR that fires slower than a pistol. Somebody convince me that leveling up this pain in the tukus is worth watching my K/D slide even lower.

It's ok, I did it on that and the other semi auto one...but it is slow and you may as well use an LMG with lightweight...in my opinion
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