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post #151 of 255
Any suggestions on a surround sound system?
post #152 of 255
I finally got the NetFlix to work. Its a little quirky to set up but don't give up cause it will eventually default to the on screen set up with using the arrow buttons to register. You just need to do this once and then a computer is no longer needed to select movies, you just select and stream right from the TV. I'm a little upset about the politics NetFlix is playing with the providers and its customers at this point though. As of now they don't stream 3D with Fios and TV's other than a few LG models and are holding out for $$$ or whatever...make no sence to the techno community that understands such stuff as far as I can tell.
Does anyone have a provider that streams NetFiix "Super HD" and did it work with your 651 in 3D ??
post #153 of 255
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Originally Posted by rwright142 View Post

Any suggestions on a surround sound system?

You might check out the AVS forum dedicated to surround sound systems. Since the 651 supports 'ARC' I'd make sure that your surround system also has that feature. Also make sure you have as many hdmi inputs as you need for your components. And also have digital optical input for source sound from the tv.

I'm afraid my surround is quite old and doeesn't even have any hdmi (came out before hdmi).

Rick
post #154 of 255
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check out ARC. I have a lot to learn about this stuff...
post #155 of 255
I wonder why the M3D651SV Netflix app dont have 3D movies streaming...... My PS3 has them. Kinda odd. Hope it gets it. Whats the current firmware version on the set.

as for ARC, my setup gets that through the hdmi cable back to my Yamaha rxa1000 receiver. no need for a optical...But my unit has one, which is good as i may try to run the hdmi direct from DTV box to tv, then optical back to the receiver. I'm getting some odd signal issues it appears at times and wondering if the Yamaha isn't sending signal back to the tube right. May work better..Yet hdmi arc issue works well.
Edited by Datagg - 3/9/13 at 2:50pm
post #156 of 255
I ran my Fios box and BlueRay to the TV with HDMI and Fios and BlueRay optical to my Denon home theatre.. Now I can choose the standard TV speakers, which are quite good, or the Denon when I need to shake the house. I tried the 651 optical out to the Denon but couldn't get it to work with either analog or digital, but am happy with what worked out since my Denon doesn't have HDMI pass through for the video signal. If your home theatre system will support HD and 3D pass through I guess that would be the way to go.
post #157 of 255
PS3 Netflix is not real 3D. You can watch it with out glasses. I do not know why they call it 3D. The best is to rent 3D movies from mail order. Look up Blu-ray 3D rentals. It works great.
post #158 of 255
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Originally Posted by jgilliam1955 View Post

PS3 Netflix is not real 3D.
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It may not be "Real" in specs, yet it looks damn good. It's hard to understand why its not in the TV Netflix app with "3D", yet is in ancient hardware. I asked Vizeo this very question today on live help..... reply was it should be in the next update for whatever that's worth.

By the way, you cant watch it without glasses.... it's all jacked up. TV also via ps3 states to put on glasses, without the glasses its unwatchable unless you want a huge headache.
post #159 of 255
Here is the problem. Our "device is not supported yet" and possibly not even your provider.

Netflix 3D
Netflix now offers 3D streaming for select titles with the following devices:

•Sony PlayStation 3 (connected TV must support 3D)
•LG TV Series: LM6200, LM6400, LM6600, LM6650, LM6700, LM7600, LS5700, LS5750, PM4700, PM6700, PM6900, PM9700
•Additional device support coming soon!
To stream titles in 3D, your Internet Provider needs to be connected to our new content delivery network - Netflix Open Connect. Visit our Super HD page to see if your Internet Provider is connected. Open Connect is required for both Super HD and 3D streaming.

If you have a compatible device and your Internet Provider is connected to Netflix Open Connect, you can find 3D titles by looking for the 3D logo.

Please note that 3D streaming requires an Internet connection speed of at least 6Mb/s, while 12Mb/s will deliver our highest 3D video quality.

For more information about Netflix Open Connect, visit our Open Connect page.

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post #160 of 255
I got my Sony 790 today and so far I'm impressed.with its quick responses.. I discoved there is a dedicated 3D channel that Sony, Discovery and Imax partnered with. Looks like only Direct TV has it in my area for now. I use FIOS and so far I've struck out with Netflix 3D and Sony's 3net. Goggle 3net to see if it is available in your area.
post #161 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

I got my Sony 790 today and so far I'm impressed.with its quick responses.. I discoved there is a dedicated 3D channel that Sony, Discovery and Imax partnered with. Looks like only Direct TV has it in my area for now. I use FIOS and so far I've struck out with Netflix 3D and Sony's 3net. Goggle 3net to see if it is available in your area.

If you have a chance to check the performance of the 790 when upconverting DVDs to the Vizio 651, I would like to hear your impression. I currently have an older Pioneer 51fd blu ray player that does a very nice job of upconverting, but I'm not sure how long it will continue, it already rejects about half of the DVDs I try to play.

Thanks
Rick
post #162 of 255
For a surround sound system...What is your budget? Are you a new at this? You may want to look at the Vizio Surround system. There's a lot of factors to figure in. I always had good luck buying speakers seperate. Good luck.
post #163 of 255
I played MI-2 on it last night and the upconverting was amazing and then converted from it from 2D to 3D and was equally impressed. The dual core processor is obviously not being wasted at 1080 and will upconvert all the way to 4K if needed someday.
post #164 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

I played MI-2 on it last night and the upconverting was amazing and then converted from it from 2D to 3D and was equally impressed. The dual core processor is obviously not being wasted at 1080 and will upconvert all the way to 4K if needed someday.

Thanks for info!

Rick
post #165 of 255
I just checked and Sony's 24/7 3net station recognizes the 650, so I guess the 651's should work too. Looks like they are way ahead of NefFlix but neither one will work in my area except with DirectTV. mad.gif I have enough old DVD's to upconvert to last a while though.
post #166 of 255
Its "Open Season" on 3net today, and for those who have a friendly provider service, it might be worth checkeing out.

http://www.3net.com/about
post #167 of 255
I feel like the providers are falling all over themselves to adapt the new 4K format, but who wants to spend 15K to 25K on a new television. You know it will happpen someday and here what cnet thinks about the whole thing..

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/#!
post #168 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

Its "Open Season" on 3net today, and for those who have a friendly provider service, it might be worth checkeing out.

http://www.3net.com/about

I checked out the 3Net site. I think I'll send my provider (DISH) a note about it as well.

Thanks
rick
post #169 of 255
Just saw this on the internet, Fios has a lot of catching up to do and I hope it happens soon.

There is no carriage agreement yet for FiOS to carry 3net, but the 3D network is "actively in discussions with Verizon" and other unspecified companies, a 3net spokeswoman said Wednesday. "There has never been an agreement to carry 3net or 3net programming" with Verizon, but 3net -- the joint venture of Discovery, Sony and Imax -- is "hopeful to conclude an agreement and bring 3net" to FiOS customers, she said. As the 3D network with 24 hours of programming seven days a week nears its second anniversary in the U.S. Feb. 13, it’s "seen a dramatic increase in reach, with 3net programming now available to more than 40 million U.S. households across five program distribution affiliates," 3net said in a news release (http://*******/boe8xx). DirecTV, Comcast, ... Log in to view full article.
post #170 of 255
I just dumpted Fios and will be having Directv installed tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing 3net tomorrow night.
post #171 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

I just dumpted Fios and will be having Directv installed tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing 3net tomorrow night.

I've contacted DISH to ask them if they have any plans for carrying 2NET but havenb't recieved a response yet. I was just reading a post in the 650 thread that someone was getting some poor signal quality from DirectTV. Hopefully that won't be an issue with yours. Let us know how it goes.

Thanks
Rick
post #172 of 255
I have used Directv and Fios in the past few years and couldn't tell the difference. I guess you could say that they all start with a dish somewhere. With Directv and Dish its to your roof top dish and with all the others its to a remote dish and then through cable to your home. In our area clouds would interfere with either system and flooding would take out cable before Directv or Dish. The only problem I had with Directv was with the line of sight through my neighbors trees, but that was resolved with a little trimming and come to think of it I better take a look at that.
The rep at Fios said that they were stuck with Red Box and were trying to expand through their brand, but how could you compete against Sony, Imax, and Discovery for HD/3D content. This is 3net's second year and they have owned 3D and HD for many years before that, so I have high expectations tonight.
post #173 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

I have used Directv and Fios in the past few years and couldn't tell the difference. I guess you could say that they all start with a dish somewhere. With Directv and Dish its to your roof top dish and with all the others its to a remote dish and then through cable to your home. In our area clouds would interfere with either system and flooding would take out cable before Directv or Dish. The only problem I had with Directv was with the line of sight through my neighbors trees, but that was resolved with a little trimming and come to think of it I better take a look at that.
The rep at Fios said that they were stuck with Red Box and were trying to expand through their brand, but how could you compete against Sony, Imax, and Discovery for HD/3D content. This is 3net's second year and they have owned 3D and HD for many years before that, so I have high expectations tonight.

good to know. I know I've been pretty happy with DISH picture quality. On the whole it's as good as I get with local OTA broadcasts. I'll be interested to hear how the 3D via DirectTV is then.

Thanks!

Rick
post #174 of 255
I don't even see 3net on my Comcast list of stations here in NH . Anyone know what the deal is ?
post #175 of 255
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Originally Posted by reaganday View Post

I don't even see 3net on my Comcast list of stations here in NH . Anyone know what the deal is ?

grandpadoc posted a link to the 3Net site where you can check to see what vendors are currently offering 3NET.

I sent a msg to DISH and recieved a reply that they had no information when or if it would be offered, but would forward the question to their programming department.

rick
post #176 of 255
We now have Dirctv and all I have to say is WOW !! It not only has 3net but also Directv Cinima on channel 104 which is in 3D. You can select and record what you want to see at a later time. They also have tons of On Demad available. As usual there is a little learning curve from what your used to and I had to go on line to get some set up tricks but it is worth it. Make sure you can run a ethernet cable to your set top box from your router to get On Demand and go to channel 1000 to see the line up. My wife will be playing with this thing all day and will have it totally dialed in by the time I get home from work.
We see no difference in audio or video quality from Fios. The only disapointment so far is that the set top box doesn't have a optical out for my home theatre ...its old and doesn't have HDMI.
post #177 of 255
INFO ON USING THE USB PORTS

I have a M3D650SV. I've spent most of the day trying stuff out and here's what I've figured out.

- You can use NTFS or FAT32!
- NTFS is the way to go, since file size is limited to 4GB on FAT32. (I've played 14GB files on NTFS)
- The partition size must be less than 2TB!
- DTS audio does not work (possibly if you hook optical audio out up to something it may - I haven't checked that)
- Many video types will not work. Who knows!?!, so I suggest transcoding to something known.

So Right now, I'm running all my files through mkv2vob (it's a FAST and free transcoding program) with "always transcode DTS" set to ON, and it seems like it's fixing everything!... For example, I just was checked 'Life of Pi', 3D, 14GB, off a 64GB thumb drive! (pretty cool huh?)
I have a 3TB HD that I set up a single 1.9 GB partition on, and I'm currently loading it up with transcoded movies. I think I've finally found a workable system.

Horray! Looking forward to comments! :-)
post #178 of 255
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Originally Posted by grandpadoc View Post

We now have Dirctv and all I have to say is WOW !! It not only has 3net but also Directv Cinima on channel 104 which is in 3D. You can select and record what you want to see at a later time. They also have tons of On Demad available. As usual there is a little learning curve from what your used to and I had to go on line to get some set up tricks but it is worth it. Make sure you can run a ethernet cable to your set top box from your router to get On Demand and go to channel 1000 to see the line up. My wife will be playing with this thing all day and will have it totally dialed in by the time I get home from work.
We see no difference in audio or video quality from Fios. The only disapointment so far is that the set top box doesn't have a optical out for my home theatre ...its old and doesn't have HDMI.

Thanks for the info it's good to know that the DirectTV signal is good!

Thanks
rick
post #179 of 255
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Originally Posted by 3dryan View Post

INFO ON USING THE USB PORTS

I have a M3D650SV. I've spent most of the day trying stuff out and here's what I've figured out.

- You can use NTFS or FAT32!
- NTFS is the way to go, since file size is limited to 4GB on FAT32. (I've played 14GB files on NTFS)
- The partition size must be less than 2TB!
- DTS audio does not work (possibly if you hook optical audio out up to something it may - I haven't checked that)
- Many video types will not work. Who knows!?!, so I suggest transcoding to something known.

So Right now, I'm running all my files through mkv2vob (it's a FAST and free transcoding program) with "always transcode DTS" set to ON, and it seems like it's fixing everything!... For example, I just was checked 'Life of Pi', 3D, 14GB, off a 64GB thumb drive! (pretty cool huh?)
I have a 3TB HD that I set up a single 1.9 GB partition on, and I'm currently loading it up with transcoded movies. I think I've finally found a workable system.

Horray! Looking forward to comments! :-)

Thanks for posting the info. As far as DTS goes, I don't believe the Optical out will support DTS.

Thanks.
Rick
post #180 of 255
I'm going to try and use the optical out to my home theatre system again. I ran out of time, cable length, and patients the first time around. The video on the HTS is just a pass through, so I'm thinking if the optical out on the Blueray works ok the TV optical out should work also. We watched Avitar 3D again last night with some friends and they were amazed and wondered why they hadn't seen this model in the stores yet and come to think about it neither have I recently.
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