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post #61 of 204
1/5/13 at 9:03am
Just got this tv set up now and have a quick question . There was a quick set up guide but no detail on the tv . I will download the online owners manual . But does anyone know what the small silver knob is for ? It is on the left hand side of the tv near the bottom . Left when facing the tv .

. The only problem I found is that two of my hdmi cables won't fit into the side connections on the tv . Not a bi deal as I can use them in another set up .
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post #62 of 204
1/5/13 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by reaganday View Post

Just got this tv set up now and have a quick question . There was a quick set up guide but no detail on the tv . I will download the online owners manual . But does anyone know what the small silver knob is for ? It is on the left hand side of the tv near the bottom . Left when facing the tv .
. The only problem I found is that two of my hdmi cables won't fit into the side connections on the tv . Not a bi deal as I can use them in another set up .

The silver knob on the left is for turning the set on/off, adjusting volume, etc. Press it and you will see. Press it quickly and it brings up a menu. Press and hold it for 3 seconds and it turns the set off.
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post #63 of 204
1/5/13 at 9:29am
Thanks Burner . Also , do you have any issues with the hdmi inputs ? It seems if they were set downward like the component and computer inputs it would be easier to work with .
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post #64 of 204
1/5/13 at 9:37am
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Thanks Burner . Also , do you have any issues with the hdmi inputs ? It seems if they were set downward like the component and computer inputs it would be easier to work with .

Yes, they are a little tricky to get it. If you using all 4 install them from the bottom up, it's easier. If you have cables with wide ends then they aren't going to fit. I know there are some out there that seem to have a wider end, I guess for easier grabbing. I buy all my cables at Monoprice.com. They are good cables and cheap.
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post #65 of 204
1/5/13 at 9:50am
Also, I use these on some of my TVs. HDMI Port Savers, that way if you need to change the cable, especially frequently it saves the HDMI Port on the TV from getting sloppy. It would make it a lot easier to connect or change cables on this TV.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041913&p_id=6061&seq=1&format=2
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post #66 of 204
1/5/13 at 4:45pm
Well, I went back to the 3D channels to try a few diferent things, and lo and behold, this time the channel just came up in 3D all by itself. Didn't have to change any cables or settings. While it doesn't explain the initial problem, I'm happy it's working correctly.

Now if only there were more 3D channels.
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post #67 of 204
1/5/13 at 5:18pm
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Well, I went back to the 3D channels to try a few diferent things, and lo and behold, this time the channel just came up in 3D all by itself. Didn't have to change any cables or settings. While it doesn't explain the initial problem, I'm happy it's working correctly.
Now if only there were more 3D channels.

The problem is there isn't that much in 3D out there. Monsters Inc in 3D is at the show so maybe that will be available. That would be good. So would A Night at the Museum if they made it.

I watched Avatar and Green Lantern in 3D. While the 3D on this set was good, the picture had depth but nothing ever just popped out in your face like they advertise. Actually, I think I liked watching the movies better in 2D. But it was fun for a change.

i ordered a Sony BR 3D player from Costco for 89 bucks. It says it will convert 2D to 3D. Anyone ever tried one of these? I'm really not expecting too much from it but I needed a new player anyway and this was a good deal.
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post #68 of 204
1/5/13 at 8:18pm
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i ordered a Sony BR 3D player from Costco for 89 bucks. It says it will convert 2D to 3D. Anyone ever tried one of these? I'm really not expecting too much from it but I needed a new player anyway and this was a good deal.

Is this the S590 you ordered. I currently have a Pioneer 51FD but it no longer plays CDs, and only plays about 50% of my DVDs, so I'm thinking of getting the Sony S590 to replace it. Post how it does.

Thanks
Rick
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post #69 of 204
1/5/13 at 8:19pm
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Well, I went back to the 3D channels to try a few diferent things, and lo and behold, this time the channel just came up in 3D all by itself. Didn't have to change any cables or settings. While it doesn't explain the initial problem, I'm happy it's working correctly.
Now if only there were more 3D channels.

I have DISH and they don't offer any 3D that I've been able to find. So I havenb't seen anything in 3D yet.

Rick
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post #70 of 204
1/6/13 at 3:55am
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Is this the S590 you ordered. I currently have a Pioneer 51FD but it no longer plays CDs, and only plays about 50% of my DVDs, so I'm thinking of getting the Sony S590 to replace it. Post how it does.
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Rick

Sorry, it was 79 bucks.
Sony BDP-BX59
http://www.costco.com/Sony-BDP-BX59-Full-HD1080p-3D-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-w-Built-in-Wi-Fi%C2%AE.product.11759545.html?catalogId=10701&langId=-1&storeId=10301&krypto=J71XftbfAzy4K1NPFSCfKQ%3D%3D

It's coming wednesday.
Edited by Burnerbum - 1/6/13 at 4:04am
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post #71 of 204
1/6/13 at 10:02am
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Sorry, it was 79 bucks.
Sony BDP-BX59
http://www.costco.com/Sony-BDP-BX59-Full-HD1080p-3D-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-w-Built-in-Wi-Fi%C2%AE.product.11759545.html?catalogId=10701&langId=-1&storeId=10301&krypto=J71XftbfAzy4K1NPFSCfKQ%3D%3D
It's coming wednesday.

Looking at the product description on that link makes me thin that is the Sony S590 with a defferent Model number (maybe specific to CostCo or warehouse stores). Let me know how it performs.

Thanks
Rick
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post #72 of 204
1/7/13 at 8:32am
Just got this tv and i have to say the PQ is awesome.. the design is not the greatest and weighs a ton... internet apps work fine... plays a little COD black ops last night and dint notice any lag. I am not a videophile therefore the back levels didnt matter to be as much but they are decent. NOW the only complaint regarding this tv is the glare ...O.M.G"... i can frankly say its worse than a plasma... i mean its flat out bad. This tv is not meant for a living room with a lot of windows or any windows for that matter... i have the blinds pulled and there's still a lot of glare and reflection ..probably one of the reasons why people must have shied away from this TV... unfortunately i like many other don't have the liberty to move the furniture around in order to accommodate the ambient light situation. Wonder what prompted vizio to go for such a mirror like screen.. Wanted to this tv to work out but viewing it day time is next to impossible.
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post #73 of 204
1/7/13 at 8:33am
Just got this tv and i have to say the PQ is awesome.. the design is not the greatest and weighs a ton... internet apps work fine... played a little COD black ops last night and dint notice any lag. I am not a videophile therefore the back levels didnt matter to be as much but they are decent. NOW the only complaint regarding this tv is the glare ...O.M.G"... i can frankly say its worse than a plasma... i mean its flat out bad. This tv is not meant for a living room with a lot of windows or any windows for that matter... i have the blinds pulled and there's still a lot of glare and reflection ..probably one of the reasons why people must have shied away from this TV... unfortunately i like many other don't have the liberty to move the furniture around in order to accommodate the ambient light situation. Wonder what prompted vizio to go for such a mirror like screen.. Wanted this tv to work out but viewing it in day time is next to impossible.
Edited by indianlegend83 - 1/7/13 at 10:20am
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post #74 of 204
1/7/13 at 9:39am
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Just got this tv and i have to say the PQ is awesome.. the design is not the greatest and weighs a ton... internet apps work fine... played a little COD black ops last night and dint notice any lag. I am not a videophile therefore the back levels didnt matter to be as much but they are decent. NOW the only complaint regarding this tv is the glare ...O.M.G"... i can frankly say its worse than a plasma... i mean its flat out bad. This tv is not meant for a living room with a lot of windows or any windows for that matter... i have the blinds pulled and there's still a lot of glare and reflection ..probably one of the reasons why people must have shied away from this TV... unfortunately i like many other don't have the liberty to move the furniture around in order to accommodate the ambient light situation. Wonder what prompted vizio to go for such a mirror like screen.. Wanted to this tv to work out but viewing it in day time is next to impossible.

The glossy screen does seem to be one of the biggest issues about this TV. I took a chance found it wasn't an issue even during the daytime in my situation, but I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out in yours.

Rick
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post #75 of 204
1/7/13 at 10:21am
Thanks Rick...what kind of room do you have it in? Is it in a basement?
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post #76 of 204
1/7/13 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by rickie View Post

The glossy screen does seem to be one of the biggest issues about this TV. I took a chance found it wasn't an issue even during the daytime in my situation, but I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out in yours.
Rick

I have mine in my Family Room with huge windows plus I have a 150 gallon reef tank with 650 watts of lighting directly across from the TV and don't have a problem. When I'm watching a movie I completely forget the glare and see right through it. I had a matte screen in here before and the glare from the tank washed out the screen so bad I couldn't see the darks scenes behind it. It just looked like a big white blur on the screen. If i concentrate on the glare I can see every fish in the tank swimming around. Samsung came out with the glossy screen a few years back and people and ratings thought the picture was superb. Then some people go hung up on the glare. In the early days the Plasmas were supposed to have the best picture and they all had glossy screens. Don't think about the glare and see if you end up liking it.

Edit: Sorry Rick, I didn't mean to quote you, I was on the wrong post......
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post #77 of 204
1/7/13 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by indianlegend83 View Post

Thanks Rick...what kind of room do you have it in? Is it in a basement?

No, actually I'm on the main floor (actually top floor of a bi-level). I have picture window directly to the left of the TV and patio doors to the right (but 20'away). I dont have anything across from the screen. I also have a fair bit of light coming from a kitchen door across from the TV. during the day, when watching tv I normally close the blinds on the pciture window and the patio door, but it doesn't really darken the room at all. ( could still read a book without any other lights). I even tried the tv with blinds open on a sunny day just to see how it did was was pretty surprised that it was fine.

But that doesn't really help your situation. If you're stuck with that layout and with this tv, you might consider room darkening curtains.

Rick
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post #78 of 204
1/7/13 at 1:47pm
Yeah thats my main issue unfortunately due to the alignment the tv is going to be bang opposite the large window... winter days here are pretty gloomy however come summer time its gets really bright even with the blinds pulled...
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post #79 of 204
1/7/13 at 1:55pm
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Yeah thats my main issue unfortunately due to the alignment the tv is going to be bang opposite the large window... winter days here are pretty gloomy however come summer time its gets really bright even with the blinds pulled...

I don't know what this is replacing, but imaybe this would be an issue for ANY 65in display in that location? I don't know how the return policy for amazon works. I imagine you might have to eat the shipping costs if you return it, but that might be your only solution if the room darkening curtains aren't an option.

It does sound like the tv spot is in a sensitive location directly across from large windows. I can see where that might cause a problem.

Good luck, and if you decide to return it, post how that experience goes.

Thanks
Rick
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post #80 of 204
1/7/13 at 2:20pm
I have a huge window opposite mine as well. Late day is a problem but we will get some sort of blinds to handle that . At night there is no issue . On average we watch most movies at night . I have a front projection theater set up in the basement and can put that into use if some live sports program is on .
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post #81 of 204
1/7/13 at 2:27pm
A couple of musings after a few days watching this thing . First off I find the picture is a bit soft .Perhaps that is not the technical word for it . Next is the sound . After hearing how bad sound is on these TVs I had intended to purchase a sound bar or speakers of some sort . So far I don't see it . I find the sound more than adequate . But there is one aspect of the set I find odd . SO far we have watched a few movies on HD channels and one on demand ( Comcast ) . The picture looks great excet for one thing . It seems almost too real . I know the tv is supposed to be 3d but I am watching a 2d channel . It is not that it is bad . It's just different . We even watched a movie we had seen before on the last set . It is just DIFFERENT . Movies seem like they were filmed similar to soap operas . Sorry for the poor explanation but I really don't know how to express what I am seeing .
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post #82 of 204
1/7/13 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by reaganday View Post

A couple of musings after a few days watching this thing . First off I find the picture is a bit soft .Perhaps that is not the technical word for it . Next is the sound . After hearing how bad sound is on these TVs I had intended to purchase a sound bar or speakers of some sort . So far I don't see it . I find the sound more than adequate . But there is one aspect of the set I find odd . SO far we have watched a few movies on HD channels and one on demand ( Comcast ) . The picture looks great excet for one thing . It seems almost too real . I know the tv is supposed to be 3d but I am watching a 2d channel . It is not that it is bad . It's just different . We even watched a movie we had seen before on the last set . It is just DIFFERENT . Movies seem like they were filmed similar to soap operas . Sorry for the poor explanation but I really don't know how to express what I am seeing .

If you want to improve the sound connect a powered sub woofer to the audio outputs on the back of the set. Make sure you go into the menu and change the audio out to variable. It makes a big difference. A 8 or 10" sub is plenty.

As far as the picture looking funny, or to real, that is known as the Soap Opera affect. If you don't like it turn off the Smooth Motion.
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post #83 of 204
1/8/13 at 8:27am
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The problem is there isn't that much in 3D out there. Monsters Inc in 3D is at the show so maybe that will be available. That would be good. So would A Night at the Museum if they made it.
I watched Avatar and Green Lantern in 3D. While the 3D on this set was good, the picture had depth but nothing ever just popped out in your face like they advertise. Actually, I think I liked watching the movies better in 2D. But it was fun for a change.
i ordered a Sony BR 3D player from Costco for 89 bucks. It says it will convert 2D to 3D. Anyone ever tried one of these? I'm really not expecting too much from it but I needed a new player anyway and this was a good deal.

I agree with you
3d is having only depth,, its like watching pictures in DEEP WELL,, but nothing pop up.. I mean if there is a scene of firing bullet,, it wonot come and hit you..

o
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post #84 of 204
1/8/13 at 8:49am
Do you guys have your TV mounted or on the stand? Wanted to know this because there are few owners for M650SVE (essentially the same panel) who are having issues with the stand being wobbly.
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post #85 of 204
1/8/13 at 9:04am
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Do you guys have your TV mounted or on the stand? Wanted to know this because there are few owners for M650SVE (essentially the same panel) who are having issues with the stand being wobbly.

Mine is on the stand. If you move the top of the screen back and forth the TV will sway a little but I would not consider it wobbly. The base on this set if pretty big and heavy. I feel it's adequate.

With previous sets Vizio included a wire tether to tie it to the wall so it wouldn't tip over. I don't have kids so I never did but if the TV was in reach of children I would consider it. I don't know why they didn't include it with this set.
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post #86 of 204
1/8/13 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by indianlegend83 View Post

Do you guys have your TV mounted or on the stand? Wanted to know this because there are few owners for M650SVE (essentially the same panel) who are having issues with the stand being wobbly.

Mine is also on the stand and like Burner, I also find it adequate. I might be concerend if I had younger children around, but I don't.

rick
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post #87 of 204
1/11/13 at 6:44am
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Do you guys have your TV mounted or on the stand? Wanted to know this because there are few owners for M650SVE (essentially the same panel) who are having issues with the stand being wobbly.
I had posted previously about a problem that seemed to be stand related. The screen very noticeably leans back at the top (both on a table and on the floor). Vizio support sent me another stand to try, which I appreciated, however the new base has a small gouge out of the front. The new stand made no improvement. I emailed Vizio photos of the screen with a level showing how far off center the bubble in the level was when placed along the front of the screen, plus a photo of the level upright showing the increase in space from the bottom of the screen to the top. Their advice was to reinstall the base. I did; it's the same.
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post #88 of 204
1/11/13 at 7:12am
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I had posted previously about a problem that seemed to be stand related. The screen very noticeably leans back at the top (both on a table and on the floor). Vizio support sent me another stand to try, which I appreciated, however the new base has a small gouge out of the front. The new stand made no improvement. I emailed Vizio photos of the screen with a level showing how far off center the bubble in the level was when placed along the front of the screen, plus a photo of the level upright showing the increase in space from the bottom of the screen to the top. Their advice was to reinstall the base. I did; it's the same.

My 554 leans back too. But when I got it the set seemed fine so I kept it. I placed some large felt pads on the rubber pads undeneath the rear of the stand. This did level it off and you can't notice the difference on the stand. That's on a 55" set. I don't know how much it would take to level yours and with that large of set I'm not sure if you would want to. My 52" Vizio that I have leaned back too so I did the same.

The other suggestion would be to put some washers behind the mounting plate at the bottom where it attaches to the screen, if this is possible, to help tilt it a little forward.

My 65 is still sitting on the floor and now that I look at it, it looks like it's tilting back slightly. But it's on carpeting so I'm not sure how it will be once it's on the stand.
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post #89 of 204
1/11/13 at 7:16am
Do anyone know if vizio has plex app?
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post #90 of 204
1/12/13 at 7:54pm
I had some time today so I tried out internet streaming using Amazon Prime instant videos. I selected a HDX movie (1080p), and strated it. I only watched for 2-3 min. but everything looked fine. I'll have to actually watch a movie all the way through I know, but wanted to see how it did.

I also tried out a 3D demo on Hulu plus. This was actually first time I've tried 3D on this set, and again, it worked fine. Looked better than I expected.

I'm a tennis fan, so I've been checking out some tennis on the tennis channel to see if I needed to change any settings for the Australian Open which starts tommorrow. I'm happy to say that things looked good without any changes at all. The ball looked as clear as these old eyes can see at any rate. I imagine I'll be giving the TV a workout for the next couple of weeks as I tend to watch most of the tennis live for the Grand Slams.

I dont know what plex app is, so can't answer.

Rick
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