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post #1111 of 5657
12/13/12 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Franchot View Post

The LCD-2s were manufactured in May 2012 and are rev2. I picked them up used and were in excellent condition. I liked them immediately, but once you taste the LCD-2s your mind starts to question as to what does the LCD-3s have to offer. I was able to get a used LCD-3 (manufactured in August 2012) in excellent condition and I'm extremely happy with them. The bass is phenomenal (very articulate and defined) and the sound stage is wider than the LCD-2s. The mid and upper regions also sound more forward to me. Are the the LCD-2s twice as good as the LCD-3s at twice the price? No. If I hadn't gotten the LCD-3 at the used price, I wouldn't have bought them. The LCD-3s do not represent a substantial value for your money over the LCD-2s. The LCD-2's greatness is not multiplied by 2 in the LCD-3s. The LCD-3s are a step up and not a giant leap from the LCD-2s.

I'm no electronics guru, but I think you or any of the other experts on this board who know how the inner workings of the 105 operate can best answer the question of "Can the headphone amp be easily modified through a firmware upgrade?" What do you think?smile.gif

 

Not!  Nyet! Nada! ...not me at all!biggrin.gif

 

On a serious note and please understand that i don't mean to be indelicate, but when you buy used headphones, aren't you concerned about what i consider the "eek" factor, i.e.they've been coated with someone else's earwax? Apologize for the unsavory subject matter as really no offense is intended.


Edited by dmusoke - 12/13/12 at 7:15pm
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post #1112 of 5657
12/13/12 at 8:43pm
The oppo remote is in iTunes / istore. I probably missed it but I didn't see it mentioned.
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post #1113 of 5657
12/13/12 at 9:08pm
I don't want to complain for nothing but I can't deactivate the Vudu button and I hit it a few times by accident trying to change the volume...the volume buttons are in a very bad spot if you ask me. And the remote app on android is working well but I can't use it all the time. I really like the remote but not the volume location...too far from the arrows in the center and that Vudu button is annoying as well. Any solutions or any remote you would suggest?
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post #1114 of 5657
12/13/12 at 9:30pm
Thread Starter 
Buy the older BDP-83 Remote which does not have the VUDU or Netflix buttons.
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post #1115 of 5657
12/13/12 at 9:36pm
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Not!  Nyet! Nada! ...not me at all!biggrin.gif

On a serious note and please understand that i don't mean to be indelicate, but when you buy used headphones, aren't you concerned about what i consider the "eek" factor, i.e.they've been coated with someone else's earwax? Apologize for the unsavory subject matter as really no offense is intended.

Not trying to turn this into a headphone thread, but you can buy new ear pads or sanitize the ear cups with non-alcoholic sanitizer if you're germaphobic. But honestly, you probably pick up worse germs from shaking someone's hand or touching the seats in a restaurant.

My SACD trials continued tonight. Even after the new firmware upgrade, it took me five tries before the 105 recognized the SACD layer of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. And Tommy first read as a CD and had to be restarted to kick in the SACD layer.
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post #1116 of 5657
12/13/12 at 9:50pm
Thanks again Neuromancer.......will check the Harmony's as well, I don't get what they did by putting the volume apart from the other controls. They're the buttons I use the most and they're so tiny.
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post #1117 of 5657
12/13/12 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by Franchot View Post


My SACD trials continued tonight. Even after the new firmware upgrade, it took me five tries before the 105 recognized the SACD layer of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. And Tommy first read as a CD and had to be restarted to kick in the SACD layer.

 

I don't think this SACD problem was supposed part of the fix as its a rather recent  problem Oppo has been made aware of...

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post #1118 of 5657
12/13/12 at 11:48pm
FYI, I can change the gain (output voltage) of any/all of the RCA/XLR outputs on the Oppo 105. If you want one volt RMS or even 4 volts RMS I can do this. Also, I am investigating putting a switch on the back that could optionally raise the gain on the headphone output to compensate for the loss when playing a downsampled multichannel disc and also just raise the gain of the headphone amp for those that cannot get enough loudness (is there such a person?). Of course, I will also have a slew of mods to improve the sound and pic.
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post #1119 of 5657
12/14/12 at 12:15am
^ Well his latest mod page concerning the BDP-105 gave me a good laugh. But a lot was nonsense.
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post #1120 of 5657
12/14/12 at 2:31am
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Originally Posted by edwardkim View Post

I agree with your propsed software solution. Unfortunately, OPPO is refusing to acknowledge that 105 is being promoted as a Player and Preamp.

I don't remember seeing any Oppo advertisements for the BDP-105 as a preamp? Can you please point me to one?

Just curious.

Cheers.

Tony
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post #1121 of 5657
12/14/12 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by TKO1 View Post

I don't remember seeing any Oppo advertisements for the BDP-105 as a preamp? Can you please point me to one?
Just curious.
Cheers.
Tony

That's not their recommendation when I spoke to them. But Oppo did said that some users set it up that way.
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post #1122 of 5657
12/14/12 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

That's not their recommendation when I spoke to them. But Oppo did said that some users set it up that way.

They actively encourage this usage on the UK site and published a knowledge article. Personally, I don't believe that Oppo intentionally set out to market the player as a pre-amp capable unit. It just "inherited" this capability because it has a variable line output control. This is further suggested by the fact that after a firmware update and factory reset, the volume goes back up to 100 which is "dangerous". If it works for certain users, then wonderful...its a great solution to minimise the signal path from source to speakers. But clearly its not going to work in all scenarios and I think the knowledge article that Oppo UK are hosting needs to reflect that.
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post #1123 of 5657
12/14/12 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

^ Well his latest mod page concerning the BDP-105 gave me a good laugh. But a lot was nonsense.

Thanks for pointing me to something that gave a chuckle early on a Friday morning. I would suggest the mods remove his post, the proper thing to do is at least pay for advertising your products/services to help support the site. That last name made me think of the Upgrade Company.
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post #1124 of 5657
12/14/12 at 6:28am
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Originally Posted by sharok View Post

Here is the Oppo response as to why we cannot make a playlist from stored music files on an external hard drive:
"The ability to support Playlists was supported briefly then was removed during the beta testing phase of the player. At this time are not planning on having Playlist control added to a future firmware release, but we are investigating the support for technologies like M3U and CUE so you can create a Playlist on a computer and then use this on the player."
Best Regards,
Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

Thanks for checking with Oppo on that. On the one hand it will be very good to add M3U and CUE support, but on the other hand it is disappointing that Oppo dropped their non-persistent playlist capability.

With the Oppo 95, the playlist ability is the feature I probably use most when listening to music from mass-storage USB drives. From archived CDs and LPs, I like browsing titles and clicking off tunes from various artists & albums that I'd like to hear - sometimes based on the rating I gave the track, or the mood I'm in at the moment. It's like a personal juke box. Then I'll either play the list straight through or use shuffle.

I will be happy though if they do add the M3U / CUE support, so I can create playlists that I intend to store long-term. Still, there's something to be said for choosing tunes by a whim.

As it is now, I'm almost ready to add the 105 to my system, but I'd like at least 3 issues to be solved: lip sync, reliably recognizing the SACD layer, and ability to create playlists.
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post #1125 of 5657
12/14/12 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I don't think this SACD problem was supposed part of the fix as its a rather recent  problem Oppo has been made aware of...

I can confirm this. I asked Oppo and they are aware of same and are working on it for a future fix.
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post #1126 of 5657
12/14/12 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by egrady View Post

I can confirm this. I asked Oppo and they are aware of same and are working on it for a future fix.
I was informed that OPPO service already has a test firmware available, which may resolve this SACD layer reading issue. Please contact they for the download link.
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post #1127 of 5657
12/14/12 at 10:00am
Wow! Yes, my 105 arrived late yesterday. I got it up and running this morning and listened to some holiday music (Carols from Clare). What depth and clarity straight out of the box! I'm sure it will improve with age too.
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post #1128 of 5657
12/14/12 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by lanping09 View Post

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Originally Posted by egrady View Post

I can confirm this. I asked Oppo and they are aware of same and are working on it for a future fix.
I was informed that OPPO service already has a test firmware available, which may resolve this SACD layer reading issue. Please contact they for the download link.

 

Yes, they do, and they contacted me to try a test loader firmware ... I just did, and it worked like a charm for me: all three SACDs that, for me so far, were mostly being loaded as CDs, load as SACDs consistently every time.  I'm snug as a bug in a rug now biggrin.gif.

 

Since this is a test (alpha) firmware, they'd like you to contact them directly to obtain the download link from them individually, rather than me putting it out on a public forum.

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post #1129 of 5657
12/14/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Jess Sayin View Post

Thanks for checking with Oppo on that. On the one hand it will be very good to add M3U and CUE support, but on the other hand it is disappointing that Oppo dropped their non-persistent playlist capability.
With the Oppo 95, the playlist ability is the feature I probably use most when listening to music from mass-storage USB drives. From archived CDs and LPs, I like browsing titles and clicking off tunes from various artists & albums that I'd like to hear - sometimes based on the rating I gave the track, or the mood I'm in at the moment. It's like a personal juke box. Then I'll either play the list straight through or use shuffle.
I will be happy though if they do add the M3U / CUE support, so I can create playlists that I intend to store long-term. Still, there's something to be said for choosing tunes by a whim.
As it is now, I'm almost ready to add the 105 to my system, but I'd like at least 3 issues to be solved: lip sync, reliably recognizing the SACD layer, and ability to create playlists.

I agree.
It is sad to see that such capable player doesn't support a basic feature such as this (making a playlist).
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post #1130 of 5657
12/14/12 at 11:21am
Newest review in The Absolute Sound.

http://www.avguide.com/blog/first-look-oppo-s-new-flagship-bdp-105-universalblu-ray-playerdac?utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email-50
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post #1131 of 5657
12/14/12 at 11:25am
I found a short review of the Oppo on diyAudio:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/222596-oppo-s-bdp105-discussions-upgrading-mods-7.html#post3241418

Note the author's name.
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post #1132 of 5657
12/14/12 at 11:59am
It that is THE John Curl, that is quite an impressive endorsement.
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post #1133 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:00pm
What is the maximum disk capacity that the 105 will read on an external USB drive? Do I recall correctly that 2TB is the limit? I could not find the answer in the 105 manual.
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post #1134 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:21pm
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It that is THE John Curl, that is quite an impressive endorsement.

I happened to have a Parasound Halo 5 channel Amp that I believe he was instrumental in its design. It has served me well. Actually the only Amp I have ever had as I previously used AVR'S so I really have nothing to compare it with. If I wind up getting the 105 I would be able to compare it with my Denon A1UDCI. Mainly curious about 2-channel. Obviously the 105 has all the smart apps, streaming, wireless connectivity and a headphone amp to boot which is why I am considering getting it. My A1 is only 3 years old or so and it is devoid of a lot features but It does seem to integrate and sound very good to my ears in my setup.
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post #1135 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by Franchot View Post

As stated, lots of personal taste when it comes to headphones, and the Beyerdynamics produce some wonderful headphones.
I was thinking that these might fit the bill for you:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CMS0XU/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=head04-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000CMS0XU
You can get them at a very good price right now. And if you don't like them, you can return them for the price of shipping.
Or these:
http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD900-Audiophile-Open-air-Headphones/dp/B0006OQY2S/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Or these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-518-Headphones-Black/dp/B0042A68R8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1355375028&sr=1-1&keywords=sennheiser+518
I'm trying to stay within your budget and suggest a headphone that has a wide sound-stage which would probably suit your movie watching requirement.
You don't have to buy from Headroom.com, but there's lots of good info at this site about the different headphones and what they can and cannot do.
http://www.headphone.com/
(Be aware that the Oppo 105's headphone amp's attenuation will arise from the down-mix of multi-channel movie audio to stereo, and even with easy to drive headphones the volume will be significantly lower. I experimented with several headphones from low to high impedance and the volume was dramatically cut down when using any of them when listening to Blu ray's or DVD's with 5.1 soundtracks. If available, select stereo or mono soundtracks. Hopefully, Oppo will issue a firmware fix that allows users to remove or lessen the attenuation.)

Thanks for your help and advise.
I am ordering the Sennheiser-HD-598-Headphones from Newegg
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post #1136 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Buy the older BDP-83 Remote which does not have the VUDU or Netflix buttons.

 

I have lost my BDP-83SE remote. Will the remote for the BDP-105 work with the 83? My 105 will arrive later on today ...

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post #1137 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

What is the maximum disk capacity that the 105 will read on an external USB drive? Do I recall correctly that 2TB is the limit? I could not find the answer in the 105 manual.

2TB is the limit for discs that are partitioned with MBR.

This limited is removed for discs partitioned with GPT.

-Bill
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12/14/12 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

I found a short review of the Oppo on diyAudio:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/222596-oppo-s-bdp105-discussions-upgrading-mods-7.html#post3241418
Note the author's name.

There is a white cable in the pix. It was not with my 105.
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post #1139 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Buy the older BDP-83 Remote which does not have the VUDU or Netflix buttons.

I have lost my BDP-83SE remote. Will the remote for the BDP-105 work with the 83? My 105 will arrive later on today ...

Yes, they use the same code sets.

-Bill
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post #1140 of 5657
12/14/12 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by Ric Schultz View Post

FYI, I can change the gain (output voltage) of any/all of the RCA/XLR outputs on the Oppo 105. If you want one volt RMS or even 4 volts RMS I can do this. Also, I am investigating putting a switch on the back that could optionally raise the gain on the headphone output to compensate for the loss when playing a downsampled multichannel disc and also just raise the gain of the headphone amp for those that cannot get enough loudness (is there such a person?). Of course, I will also have a slew of mods to improve the sound and pic.

 

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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

^ Well his latest mod page concerning the BDP-105 gave me a good laugh. But a lot was nonsense.

 

Man, you don't say!  http://tweakaudio.com

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