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post #151 of 5984
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Here's my two cents worth. The 105 is better then the 95 out of the box. The best way to describe it is that a veil has been lifted. As good as the 95 is I always felt it was lacking something, but I could not say until now what it was. The 105 seems to be the answer at least for music with the XLR. video seems to be the same or maybe a fraction better. Over all movie audio is a notch above the 95. I am happy with the 105. By the way so far no audio sync problems.

Thanks for the review tlc828smile.gif!

post #152 of 5984
Both Pandora and radioio sound very good using a Mac mini (USB) and the BDP-105 balanced stereo outputs. Very clean and dynamic, even at low levels.

I chose 88.2k as a sample rate, is there any particular one that's "best"?
post #153 of 5984
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Here's my two cents worth. The 105 is better then the 95 out of the box. The best way to describe it is that a veil has been lifted. As good as the 95 is I always felt it was lacking something, but I could not say until now what it was. The 105 seems to be the answer at least for music with the XLR. video seems to be the same or maybe a fraction better. Over all movie audio is a notch above the 95. I am happy with the 105. By the way so far no audio sync problems.

Then there is an issue with you setup.
post #154 of 5984
A notch above with more all in one devices installed(dac,HP amp ect)
I have the 95 strictly for movies using the analog outs to my ol Arcam AV8.
I was hoping for a huge difference in the analog and vid sections,course Id have to hear or see it myself before purchase.
seems so far if one were into more all in one then I suppose the 105 might be an upgrade choice,
I use components for one purpose dvd(Blu) for one cdp for cds ect.
seems my 83SE(backup) and 95 will stay right here until something major comes out as I use it for just vid and audio.
damn and I wanted to spend some money.
post #155 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Regnad View Post

Both Pandora and radioio sound very good using a Mac mini (USB) and the BDP-105 balanced stereo outputs. Very clean and dynamic, even at low levels.

I chose 88.2k as a sample rate, is there any particular one that's "best"?

Where did you make that choice of sample rate? If you meant the Optical/Coax setting in the OPPO, that setting is not relevant to this particular cabling combo.
--Bob
post #156 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

Issue #2 with my unit. I connected the HDMI cables via split A/V with HDMI 1 out of Oppo straight into my JVC RS-55 with HDMI 2 audio only from the Oppo 105 into the Classe SSP-800. The result is problematic as the movie started and played fine both audio and video but when stopping the disc my Classe started to hunt for an HDMI signal alternating between no signal and audio lock! I was unable to even change inputs on the Classe to get it to stop, definitely some type of handshake issue. I also tried the factory supplied 2 meter HDMI cable into the HDMI 2 output with the same exact "hunting" results. The Watchmen Blu Ray still had the audio/video sync issue. Just curious as to how many beta testers there were and if they had a similar problem connecting to other processors? The 105 plays both video and audio fine with no handshake issues with HDMI output 1 into the SSP-800 via split A/V. Only acts up when connected seperately. I would think this would be resolved in beta testing because obviously none of these issues I've uncovered in 5 days of owner useage was discovered by other testers?

Sure, dual cabling setups are tested in Beta. I don't recall whether any of the Beta Testers happen to have your Classe SSP-800, but the sort of problem you are having is not blocking any of the Beta Testers from using dual cables.

Last I heard Classe was issuing updates for HDMI handshake issues, so do check that your firmware is up to date in it.

Next, try disconnecting the HDMI cable between the Classe and your display and see if that fixes the problem. If so the bug is either in your Classe or in your display -- i.e., they are getting confused into thinking TWO HDMI paths are active between the player and the display. There may be a setting change needed in one or the other to keep that from happening. (Start by checking for any sort of "pass through" setting in the Classe.)

The most important thing that is happening when you stop the movie is that 1080p/24 output is switching back to 1080p/60. So as a workaround, try setting 1080p/24 OFF in the OPPO and see if that fixes the problem when you Stop the disc.

Whatever results you get with these diagnostic tests, give OPPO Tech Support a call and they can look into this with you.
--Bob
post #157 of 5984
New Public Beta firmware is about to hit. BE SURE TO READ THE RELEASE NOTES FIRST.
--Bob
post #158 of 5984
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Here's my two cents worth. The 105 is better then the 95 out of the box. The best way to describe it is that a veil has been lifted. As good as the 95 is I always felt it was lacking something, but I could not say until now what it was. The 105 seems to be the answer at least for music with the XLR. video seems to be the same or maybe a fraction better. Over all movie audio is a notch above the 95. I am happy with the 105. By the way so far no audio sync problems.

Just out of curiosity, did you compare them side by side?
post #159 of 5984
Thread Starter 
Release date: November 20, 2012
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP10X-37-1114B
Loader Version: 6U0900 (BDP-103), 7B0600 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

1. Added support for "Rhapsody" online music and "CinemaNow" movie/TV streaming services.
2. Added the "Blank HDMI 2" option in the Setup Menu -> Video Setup -> 3D Setting. This allows the player to force HDMI 2 to output a 2D blank screen when HDMI 1 outputs 3D video. Some customers reported that during 3D movie playback, when HDMI 1 was connected to a 3D display and HDMI 2 was connected to a non-3D receiver which in turn is connected to the same 3D display, there was no audio coming from the receiver. This issue has been resolved.
3. Resolved the incorrect aspect ratio (AR) during some user-created media. In the previous firmware the player may have unnecessarily pillarboxed or stretched the video of some user-created media files. This issue has been resolved.
4. Resolved an incompatibility with older Digital Coaxial or Optical receivers where streaming services (such as Netflix, YouTube) produced no audio.
5. Improved the user experience in the HOME menu and the Media Center (Photo, Music, or Movie) e.g., Added Thumbnail View mode for Movie and Music, and the customer can press RED COLOR button to quickly switch between File List mode and Thumbnail View mode.
6. Added "Sleep Timer" option in the Setup Menu -> Device Setup. This allows the player to turn itself off after a specific amount of time.
7. Added support for converting Side-by-Side and Top-Bottom formatted MKV into 3D. During the playback of a compatible MKV, press the 3D button on the remote once to turn on the "2D->3D" conversion then press the 3D button again to display the "3D Setting" menu. Select "Side-by-Side" or "Top-Bottom" to match the source to convert the image to 3D.
8. Added "CD Program Play" function for CD/SACD playback. During the disc playback, press the YELLOW COLOR button to bring the “Program Play” interface. Here you can use the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW button to set a desired playlist.
9. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
Special notices:
a) In order to facilitate the user experience improvement in media navigation (item 6 above), the player will create an "OPPO_Media_Info" folder on the connected USB storage device and store media information there. You may find this folder on USB flash drives or external hard drives after using those on the OPPO player. Please do not delete the folder and its files.
b) SD DVD de-interlacing performance is not as good as that of the official firmware release BDP10X-33-1018. If you watch DVD often, we recommend that you skip this beta test version and wait for the next official release, which will fix this problem.
c) You can revert back to the previous Official release via a USB thumb drive.
post #160 of 5984
The OPPO BDP-105 is now available for general sales Pre-Order on OPPO Digital's web site "Store" page, with an estimated ship date of November 26:

http://www.oppodigital.com/products.asp

The Rack Mount Kit for the OPPO BDP-105 is also now available for general sale.

If you received an "invitation to purchase" email from OPPO due to previously registering on OPPO's Interest List, I believe that means they already have a unit in hand to ship to you -- i.e., without having to wait another week.
--Bob
post #161 of 5984
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Originally Posted by sac8d4 View Post

I am having some of the same issues that Stylin is with the BDP-105 as a DMP. Originally, I thought it may have been the control point that I am using but now, I don't think it is. I am using the BDP-105 with Dbpoweramp's control point, Asset Control.The BDP-105 would simply stop playing after 3 or 4 songs on a playlist... I couldn't figure out why it was doing this. Additionally, I was unable to switch tracks (skip to another track). on the playlist I created. This is a major feature of this player. I hope Oppo can get this fixed, Oppo can't necessarily tout this as a feature of the player until it can act as a DMP executing this flawlessly like it does many things.

I gave Asset Control a try to see how it performed as I'm looking for something to use on my laptop. It seemed pretty unstable to me - my BDP-105 stopped playing like you described, but also when I went back to the Asset Control screen the application was in an unresponsive state, basically crashed.
Edited by ehlarson - 11/20/12 at 7:34pm
post #162 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Where did you make that choice of sample rate? If you meant the Optical/Coax setting in the OPPO, that setting is not relevant to this particular cabling combo.
--Bob

I mean the sample rate selection on the Mac mini "Audio Devices" where you can pick the sample rate for the OPPO USB device.
post #163 of 5984
A reminder for European owners: The firmware that appears on the OPPO Digital web site here in the US is for the North American model players only (BDP-103 and BDP-105). If you have a European model player (BDP-103EU or BDP-105EU) you will, as usual, need to wait for the European version firmware to be released on the OPPO UK site. That should happen shortly.



Also, for any folks coming from the older OPPO Blu-ray players, please note that the instructions for doing a USB or burned-disc install HAVE CHANGED!

You no longer need to UnZip the download into a UPG folder and put that folder on the media. Instead, the BDP10X.BIN file that you download gets put onto the USB stick, or burned onto your blank disc directly. No need to UnZip it first. No UPG folder needed. The firmware pieces get extracted from that single file during the install.
--Bob
post #164 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

I listened for about an hour using the dbPowerAmp Asset UPnP server and didn't experience this problem. Don't want to say it's solved, just a datapoint. Could be the 105 implementation is very server dependent... which is understandable and why I recommended Oppo do some testing and publish a list of supported server & control points. So sac8d4, which server are you using?
Styln

Styln,

You bring up some good points regarding the sensitivity to some of the various server options out there. I am using Asset Control w/ Asset UPnP.

I have found the only way to skip songs through Asset control is to stop the currently playing track and then hit skip or select the track on the menu to be played. There is "no on the fly" changing of tracks (currently while one song is being played). I find that to be a quite peculiar implementation.
post #165 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

New Public Beta firmware is about to hit. BE SURE TO READ THE RELEASE NOTES FIRST.
--Bob

 

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: November 20, 2012
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP10X-37-1114B
Loader Version: 6U0900 (BDP-103), 7B0600 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)
1. Added support for "Rhapsody" online music and "CinemaNow" movie/TV streaming services.
2. Added the "Blank HDMI 2" option in the Setup Menu -> Video Setup -> 3D Setting. This allows the player to force HDMI 2 to output a 2D blank screen when HDMI 1 outputs 3D video. Some customers reported that during 3D movie playback, when HDMI 1 was connected to a 3D display and HDMI 2 was connected to a non-3D receiver which in turn is connected to the same 3D display, there was no audio coming from the receiver. This issue has been resolved.
3. Resolved the incorrect aspect ratio (AR) during some user-created media. In the previous firmware the player may have unnecessarily pillarboxed or stretched the video of some user-created media files. This issue has been resolved.
4. Resolved an incompatibility with older Digital Coaxial or Optical receivers where streaming services (such as Netflix, YouTube) produced no audio.
5. Improved the user experience in the HOME menu and the Media Center (Photo, Music, or Movie) e.g., Added Thumbnail View mode for Movie and Music, and the customer can press RED COLOR button to quickly switch between File List mode and Thumbnail View mode.
6. Added "Sleep Timer" option in the Setup Menu -> Device Setup. This allows the player to turn itself off after a specific amount of time.
7. Added support for converting Side-by-Side and Top-Bottom formatted MKV into 3D. During the playback of a compatible MKV, press the 3D button on the remote once to turn on the "2D->3D" conversion then press the 3D button again to display the "3D Setting" menu. Select "Side-by-Side" or "Top-Bottom" to match the source to convert the image to 3D.
8. Added "CD Program Play" function for CD/SACD playback. During the disc playback, press the YELLOW COLOR button to bring the “Program Play” interface. Here you can use the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW button to set a desired playlist.
9. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
Special notices:
a) In order to facilitate the user experience improvement in media navigation (item 6 above), the player will create an "OPPO_Media_Info" folder on the connected USB storage device and store media information there. You may find this folder on USB flash drives or external hard drives after using those on the OPPO player. Please do not delete the folder and its files.
b) SD DVD de-interlacing performance is not as good as that of the official firmware release BDP10X-33-1018. If you watch DVD often, we recommend that you skip this beta test version and wait for the next official release, which will fix this problem.
c) You can revert back to the previous Official release via a USB thumb drive.

 

Nothing about  the AV lip sync fixes???

post #166 of 5984
^ See my post in the 103 thread.
--Bob
post #167 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ See my post in the 103 thread.
--Bob

Thanks ...saw it! I think the temporary DVD upscaling issue could be a non-starter until fixed in the official release.

post #168 of 5984
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Here's my two cents worth. The 105 is better then the 95 out of the box. The best way to describe it is that a veil has been lifted. As good as the 95 is I always felt it was lacking something, but I could not say until now what it was. The 105 seems to be the answer at least for music with the XLR. video seems to be the same or maybe a fraction better. Over all movie audio is a notch above the 95. I am happy with the 105. By the way so far no audio sync problems.

Really, please let us know how you compared them rolleyes.gif
post #169 of 5984
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Really, please let us know how you compared them rolleyes.gif
+1

In all seriousness, those who purchased the 105 to replace the 95 in their arsenal have been strangely silent. "Burn in" time should have just about ended by now and it's about time that we hear some first impressions folks. Or are y'all sooooo blown away that you haven't been able to leave your listening chair?smile.gif
post #170 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post


+1
In all seriousness, those who purchased the 105 to replace the 95 in their arsenal have been strangely silent. "Burn in" time should have just about ended by now and it's about time that we hear some first impressions folks. Or are y'all sooooo blown away that you haven't been able to leave your listening chair?smile.gif

smile.gif ...I was wondering the same thing as well. But i also think the 105 will not be the 'killer' in sales Oppo expects maybe because its not that much different, AQ-wise from the 95(maybe???), so most owners of the 95 might not upgrade to the 105 despite the extra features it has.

post #171 of 5984
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ See my post in the 103 thread.

--Bob
Thanks ...saw it! I think the temporary DVD upscaling issue could be a non-starter until fixed in the official release.
Keep in mind you can easily roll back to the current Official release if you want to try the Beta and make sure it doesn't introduce problems in your setup BEFORE the next Official release.
--Bob
post #172 of 5984
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

smile.gif  ...I was wondering the same thing as well. But i also think the 105 will not be the 'killer' in sales Oppo expects maybe because its not that much different, AQ-wise from the 95(maybe???), so most owners of the 95 might not upgrade to the 105 despite the extra features it has.
Nah. They'll sell just fine. Look at the alternatives.

Besides, the potential market for the 105 is way bigger than the current installed base of 95 players.

Heck, there are all those 83SE owners. Not to mention those rare individuals out there who have never even heard of OPPO.
--Bob
post #173 of 5984
Some Kind Words on the BDP-105 from Dan Wright's Blog at ModWright.com

http://www.modwright.com/blog/post.php?s=2012-11-18-new-mods-oppo-bdp103-and-bdp105

Quote:
The stock 105 IS superior sounding, to my ears, to the stock 103. Not even needing an A/B. The 103 is GOOD, but has the sound that I find typical with units powered by a SMPS (Switched mode power supply) and with cap coupled outputs....Perhaps you can already see where I am going on the 103 front!

The 105 on CD only so far, is REALLY good stock! I am surprised at how good it is, to be honest. Oppo REALLY stepped up their game with this unit, improving the power supply design and overall chassis design. They also added SPDIF and USB digital inputs. I have not listened to USB inputs yet, but will do so today and report back with my findings there!

--Bob
post #174 of 5984
OPPO UK has just posted a technical note on connecting the BDP-105EU directly to power amps or active speakers:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/UserFiles/Docs/PDF/BDP-105EU%20Direct%20Power%20Amplifier%20Connection%20V2.pdf

Obviously this applies equally well to the BDP-105.
--Bob
post #175 of 5984
I solved the split/av handshake issue with my SSP-800 the 105 sounds very good connected together. I even tried my Akira Blu Ray which has a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack at 192 khz 24 bit! Just finished watching remember that night David Gilmore live at Royal Albert Hall. I am very pleased with the 105. I have not had any lip synch problems with any other Blu Ray or DVD discs.
post #176 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

I solved the split/av handshake issue with my SSP-800 the 105 sounds very good connected together. I even tried my Akira Blu Ray which has a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack at 192 khz 24 bit! Just finished watching remember that night David Gilmore live at Royal Albert Hall. I am very pleased with the 105. I have not had any lip synch problems with any other Blu Ray or DVD discs.

If you don't mind, what turned out to be the problem with the Split A/V setup? It may help other folks who run into similar problems.
--Bob
post #177 of 5984
Hi ALL Thinkin about the new 105... I have the BDP-83SE and have two Questions:

1:) What about the sound of the 105 compared to the 83SE, is it a worthy and mentionable difference?

2:) Thinking about the purchase of the Xtreamer Prodigy FullHD Media Player (http://www.xtreamer.net/xtreamer-prodigy-black.aspx), WILL IT BE POSSIBLE,
TO PLAY MOVIES FROM THIS DEVICE THROUGH THE 105, WITH THE FULL SOUND ? smile.gif

THANX FOR ANSWERING MY Qs
post #178 of 5984
Just received my BDP-105 yesterday and took a quick spin before starting the burn in. It is a beautiful player. Robust chassis. Heavy. Appears very well made like all the Oppo products (also own a BDP-93)

Use: I am going to use this player primarily as a audio player although it will drive a TV in my living room for the occasional blue-ray. So in addition to the Audio connections to my preamp I have HDMI1 Out>Switcher>LCD

Setup:
Current: (Rega Planet>Nordost Silver Shadow Coaxial>MSB Full Nelson Link Dac III/MSB Power Base/Aurora Power Cord>Nordost Red Dawn>Preamp)
Oppo: (BDP-105>RCA Out Via Nordost Red Dawn>Preamp)
Both transports have stock power cords:

Initial Sound: Very early to tell but with a Redbook CD I definitely hear a better soundstage and imaging. The Rega is a lot more liquid at this point but the Oppo is playing immediately after coming in from the cold from delivery. More to come after the burn in.

Before I critically listen this weekend I want to make sure I have the setup correct so please let me know if something is wrong or missing to optimize audio playback:

*Speaker Config - all are turned off except F/L which are set to Large
*Downmix Mode = Stereo
*SACD Priority = Stereo
*SACD Output - DSD

I don't have HDMI set to Off since it has a dual use but If I switch the TV I have audio outputting from HDMI and through the RCA jacks. Is this normal? Does it affect the sound quality?


Thanks in advance for any help
post #179 of 5984
I am the happy owner since its release of a BDP-83, then upgraded into 83SE. I eagerly consider the purchase of BDP-105 to add streaming capability lacking in 83SE (very limited file compatibility). But I'm really curious about the quality of stereo sound (through balanced XLR) compared to that of the 83SE, any comments?

As I look at some pretty upscale audio equipment and consider Lynn Akurate DS plugged into an external DAC like Berkeley Alpha DAC 2.
I wonder if using the oppo as a streamer connected to the Berkeley DAC would give the same sound quality as with the Lynn? (or whether the oppo by itself is soulding close enough?)
And can anybody comment on the audible difference between the 105 and the combination 103 + a very high quality DAC?

FYI I use Belcanto Prepro preamp, amp Belcanto evo6, speakers piega P4MKII, and Nordost red dawn cables in between.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts!
post #180 of 5984
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

OPPO UK has just posted a technical note on connecting the BDP-105EU directly to power amps or active speakers:
http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/UserFiles/Docs/PDF/BDP-105EU%20Direct%20Power%20Amplifier%20Connection%20V2.pdf
Obviously this applies equally well to the BDP-105.
--Bob

Thanks to whomever prepared that note.

"After firmware update the player requires a factory reset to ensure correct operation. This
will reset volume level to “Fixed” and the actual volume to 100 (maximum). "
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