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post #241 of 10177
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Originally Posted by zoomin View Post


In my case I'd like to get the AV Receiver/Processor out of the mix entirely - the 105 is allowing me to do that.
HDMI from my cable box goes into the HDMI input on the back of the 105.
My old processor (Arcam AVP700) was nice sonically but didn't do any upscaling of video - it just had HDMI switching/passthrough capabilites.
To play records I might shim an analog pre-amp with Hometheatre passthrough into the mix at some point.

 

Thanks Zooming ...i guess with a limited set of HDMI sources, you can get away from using your Arcam processor and use the 105 entirely!

post #242 of 10177
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Originally Posted by sac8d4 View Post

I know many of you are still wanting feedback on the BDP-105 vs BDP-95, as with every other OPPO i have owned in the past ( DV-981HD to DV-983H, BDP- 83 to BDP-83 SE Nuforce Edition, BDP-95 to BDP-105), Oppo has found away to make improve upon their previous players. Only referring to (analog) audio quality,the margin of improvement is less and less with each Oppo product. Now on to the specific audio qualities of the BDP-105....As various others have reported, the bass does appear to be improved over the BDP-105. To my ears the bass could be described as less "boomy", which makes it seem that that Oppo was able to dig down and reproduce a few octaves lower compared to previous Oppo products. Additionally, the upper octaves seem to have more energy on top. I know many will read this and will think, Bdp-105 is "bright" sounding, but that is an inaccurate description. For those of you that are concerned with the lack of DAC stacking in the design of the BDP-105, this isn't something you will even notice sonically. In fact, I would say that the improved analog path has helped with the sound of this machine. Conservatively, I would quantify the amount as 0%-5% increase in sound over the BDP-95. (I am only referring to the discrete stereo connections, XLR and RCA) Those of you that are on the fence and simply want to purchase a universal player that sounds leaps and bounds better than the previous flagship Oppo player, this may not be the player for you. However, this the best sounding Oppo player to date and has so many important features on the audio side of the house(such as the use of this player as a DMP and USB Asynchronous DAC), that is what sets this player apart from other universal players on the market as well as other Oppo players.

I found the bass under developed (one mans boomy could be described as no weight in another setup) in the early stages of the 95's breakin not until more than 150 hrs did it exceed that which I found from a Denon 5900 (Big and Bold) as for the highs on the 95 they are extended a clean and developed a nice since of "Air" at more than 500 hrs of breakin. the overall tonality of the 95 was as neutral as one could hope for and why some felt it was warm or detailed in there setups during early stages of its initial release. I did find that depending the cables it favored those that offered no specific high lighting of a particular frequency but those that were coherent from top to bottom.

All in all this sounds like a different sounding player at does deserve an 30 day audition to see if it gels with the rest of my gear, and the possibility of keeping both if I find what I would have to give up from the 95 to much.

Thanks for the update and keep us informed on the 105's progress;)
post #243 of 10177
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Originally Posted by thorix View Post

I had the chance to compare the 95 with a few players.
I would rate the Linn Akurate DS best with a 10. 2nd and very close was an Audionet CD player (german high end brand) with a9.5; 3rd Linn Majik DS 8pts; 4th Naim Nd5 XS 7pts; 5th Oppo 95 with 5pts; 6th Marantz 7001KI 3 pts; 7th Marantz Sr9600 DAC 2pts. Overall all tested equipment was very good and I believe that if you do not directly compare; it is hard to find out what is what. I would be very interested where the 105 fits into this list. Hopefully it closes the gap to the Linn DS'S

Interesting post. Comparing the Oppo 95 to machines(some of which aren't even disk players) costing up to 5000 is one thing, but using one's preferences to grade them is difficult to quantify. One person's preferences may not be another's, and all that. Still, for the cost of the Oppo, I suppose it's punching way above it's weight.
post #244 of 10177
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Originally Posted by djkiwi View Post

If people can't notice the difference between the BDP 105 and the Panasonic 500 then two things are going on:
1. Their sensory perceptions are incapable of differentiation.
This isn't meant as an insult. I've had friends and family members who haven't noticed any differences at all between components whereas some say the difference is "night and day". Lucky for the people that can't notice the difference as they can be happy with a ghetto blaster and save a ton of cash.
2. Their system is incapable of differentiation.
This could be due to a number issues. There are a lot of components between the source and the final sound heard by the listener and any can degrade the sound considerably.
The most common I've found is overly complex passive crossover networks which "filter" and degrade the sound sometimes rendering a very high quality source such as the Oppo to just "average". For example I have two systems. One is capable of taking full advantage of a very high quality source such as the Oppo 105 and the other is not. On the secondary system, the Oppo does sound a little better than some of the inferior dacs. On the main system, the differences are like "night and day". Also price has a sparse relationship to sound quality. I've heard a pair of $4000 single driver speakers sound much more "refined" than a pair of $180,000 speakers. So if you can't hear much difference between the Oppo and another DAC/squeezebox etc then don't blame the Oppo look elsewhere within the system...
Over the next few weeks, I'm going to do the following:
1. compare the Oppo to a variety of pre-amps in the $150-$15k range and decide whether the Oppo sounds better standalone or with a preamp.
2. Compare the Oppo to a variety of external DACs in the $500-$15k range to determine where the Oppo fits with differing priced dacs.
3. Compare a variety of amps with differing input impedance to determine whether it is a "true preamp". Despite the "theory" it should work, this needs real life testing as I've had mixed results in the past.
I hope other people post their comparisons on the above items as well so we can get a feel of where the 105 ranks in the grand scheme of things.
I've also found this unit needs quite a bit of burn in time. I've been burning this in 24/7 since I got it and it took a long time to settle down. Plugging it in on arrival and then firing off a review after an hour or so is doing this unit a disservice in my opinion.....

+1
post #245 of 10177
Do you mean to tell me that there are 2 dac's for the headphone:eek: at a minimum I would have settled for the rca's having 2 with the balanced being my first choice, maybe a future firmware will allow some kind of re assignment ?
post #246 of 10177

USB Dac setup

Hi - First time on the forum for me. Just got the 105 and so far so good. Having trouble, however, getting the UBS DAC to work from my computer. Downloaded the software successfully (it verifies the link to the player as a pre-requisite, so that is not the issue), but that is as far as I can get. As this is a stereo only DAC I have the Oppo's 2-channel analogue outputs configured into my receiver on one input, as well as via HDMI. Supposedly using the USB input I get no sound on any setting. Audio works fine (in 2 and 5 channels) on all other inputs.
There are no instructions whatsoever for the use of the software you must download in order for this to work in Windows, and I really don't have a clue on the computer end how this software is supposed to work. Set it as the default playback device. Nothing!

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!
post #247 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Nah. They'll sell just fine. Look at the alternatives.
Besides, the potential market for the 105 is way bigger than the current installed base of 95 players.
Heck, there are all those 83SE owners. Not to mention those rare individuals out there who have never even heard of OPPO.
--Bob

That would be me. Have never had the pleasure of listening/viewing an OPPO. Could be my next player. I was also considering the new Marantz 7007. I am still enjoying my A1, but it has its ups and downs.
post #248 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: November 20, 2012
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP10X-37-1114B
Loader Version: 6U0900 (BDP-103), 7B0600 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)
1. Added support for "Rhapsody" online music and "CinemaNow" movie/TV streaming services.
2. Added the "Blank HDMI 2" option in the Setup Menu -> Video Setup -> 3D Setting. This allows the player to force HDMI 2 to output a 2D blank screen when HDMI 1 outputs 3D video. Some customers reported that during 3D movie playback, when HDMI 1 was connected to a 3D display and HDMI 2 was connected to a non-3D receiver which in turn is connected to the same 3D display, there was no audio coming from the receiver. This issue has been resolved.
3. Resolved the incorrect aspect ratio (AR) during some user-created media. In the previous firmware the player may have unnecessarily pillarboxed or stretched the video of some user-created media files. This issue has been resolved.
4. Resolved an incompatibility with older Digital Coaxial or Optical receivers where streaming services (such as Netflix, YouTube) produced no audio.
5. Improved the user experience in the HOME menu and the Media Center (Photo, Music, or Movie) e.g., Added Thumbnail View mode for Movie and Music, and the customer can press RED COLOR button to quickly switch between File List mode and Thumbnail View mode.
6. Added "Sleep Timer" option in the Setup Menu -> Device Setup. This allows the player to turn itself off after a specific amount of time.
7. Added support for converting Side-by-Side and Top-Bottom formatted MKV into 3D. During the playback of a compatible MKV, press the 3D button on the remote once to turn on the "2D->3D" conversion then press the 3D button again to display the "3D Setting" menu. Select "Side-by-Side" or "Top-Bottom" to match the source to convert the image to 3D.
8. Added "CD Program Play" function for CD/SACD playback. During the disc playback, press the YELLOW COLOR button to bring the “Program Play” interface. Here you can use the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW button to set a desired playlist.
9. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
Special notices:
a) In order to facilitate the user experience improvement in media navigation (item 6 above), the player will create an "OPPO_Media_Info" folder on the connected USB storage device and store media information there. You may find this folder on USB flash drives or external hard drives after using those on the OPPO player. Please do not delete the folder and its files.
b) SD DVD de-interlacing performance is not as good as that of the official firmware release BDP10X-33-1018. If you watch DVD often, we recommend that you skip this beta test version and wait for the next official release, which will fix this problem.
c) You can revert back to the previous Official release via a USB thumb drive.

I am big fan of Rhapsody and they offer some high resolution streams, so for me this is almost enough reason to buy it. Curious if the sound would be better with the 105 as opposed to the 103? Is streamed music just like cd music and is also improved with better analog features like the 105 offers?
post #249 of 10177
I have found that streaming music such as Pandora sounds better when I use a Mac mini as the source into the BD-105 USB rather than the built-in BD-105 services.

Perhaps this is because the streaming services often send higher bit-rates to computers rather than "devices".
post #250 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

In all seriousness, those who purchased the 105 to replace the 95 in their arsenal have been strangely silent. "Burn in" time should have just about ended by now and it's about time that we hear some first impressions folks. Or are y'all sooooo blown away that you haven't been able to leave your listening chair?smile.gif

I upgraded to the 105 for one reason--to get rid of the fan. In our listening environment, it was a distraction (very quiet house up in the mountains, loudest noise is birds).

Getting rid of the fan was worth the cost of the upgrade all by itself, and it definitely runs cooler (a lot cooler), which is a benefit.

But in addition, the speed of the unit is significantly better. The annoying getting-read-to-get-started lag on Blu-rays has been greatly reduced, menus are snappy, navigation is crisp. All good there, and hadn't expected this, so it was a pleasant surprise.

The clicks are still there when muting during transitions, but because everything is faster, there seems to be less of that.

HDMI handshake and lock is nearly instantaneous.

Sound is as good as ever, as is picture quality. I wouldn't say it's remarkably better than the 95, but it's certainly no worse. Listened non-stop over the past week with no fatigue, but that was true with the 95 as well.

I don't use streaming features (can't--no way to get any kind of reasonable broadband, which is the drawback to where we live), but if I did, the flexibility of the 105 (and 103) compared to before would be a benefit.

To summarize, I highly recommend the 105 over the 95 if:

- The 95's fan bugs you, and/or
- The 95's heat bugs you, and/or
- You want a built-in headphone amp, and/or
- You want to decode external digital sources through the 105's DAC, and/or
- You want faster startup and transitions

Otherwise you could probably just stick with the 95.
post #251 of 10177
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Originally Posted by adeo View Post

Hi ALL Thinkin about the new 105... I have the BDP-83SE and have two Questions:
1:) What about the sound of the 105 compared to the 83SE, is it a worthy and mentionable difference?

I've owned the 83SE, 95, and now the 105.

From the SE to the 95, there was a definite improvement. This has been noted on various forums so often that despite being anecdotal/subjective, it should probably be believed. (Plus, there are analyzer scans online showing much better specs on the 95 compared to the SE).

Between the 95 and 105, there will be a lot of argument on this thread, which is usually a good indication that differences are minor/negligible/nonexistent. I don't hear a difference between the 95 and 105, and that's running in a system with large speakers and pure analog out from the Oppo. And picture quality seems to be the same (of course, the 95 can't upscale to 4k).

But for other reasons (no fan, faster operation, better transport), etc., I much prefer the 105 to the 95. It's the Oppo I wish I could have bought at the time when upgrading from the SE. You are lucky to be able to do that in one shot.
post #252 of 10177
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Originally Posted by bsauvage View Post

I am the happy owner since its release of a BDP-83, then upgraded into 83SE. I eagerly consider the purchase of BDP-105 to add streaming capability lacking in 83SE (very limited file compatibility). But I'm really curious about the quality of stereo sound (through balanced XLR) compared to that of the 83SE, any comments?
As I look at some pretty upscale audio equipment and consider Lynn Akurate DS plugged into an external DAC like Berkeley Alpha DAC 2.
I wonder if using the oppo as a streamer connected to the Berkeley DAC would give the same sound quality as with the Lynn? (or whether the oppo by itself is soulding close enough?)
And can anybody comment on the audible difference between the 105 and the combination 103 + a very high quality DAC?
FYI I use Belcanto Prepro preamp, amp Belcanto evo6, speakers piega P4MKII, and Nordost red dawn cables in between.
Thank you in advance for your thoughts!

I just answered a similar question about the 83SE vs. 105.
post #253 of 10177
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Originally Posted by OtherSongs View Post

"BDP-105EU is well suited to being directly connected to a power amp or active speakers. The players level (volume) control uses the dual Sabre32 DAC's which have patented 32 bit level control which is claimed to perform as well as all but the most advanced analogue volume controls."
Directly stating that OPPO's digital volume control is not as good...
...but close to that of "the most advanced analogue volume controls"
We're in rarefied air here at this point!! biggrin.gif

Interesting that they qualified it.

Over on the 105 anticipation thread, assurances were repeatedly made (by AVSers, not by Oppo) that the 105's digital volume control would allow it to be connected directly to power amps for a better result than fixing the volume and connecting through an analog preamp.
post #254 of 10177
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

I've owned the 83SE, 95, and now the 105.
From the SE to the 95, there was a definite improvement. This has been noted on various forums so often that despite being anecdotal/subjective, it should probably be believed. (Plus, there are analyzer scans online showing much better specs on the 95 compared to the SE).
Your 83SE to the 95 experience seems to match mine. Dedicated stereo outputs were slightly better but in my case, the multi-channel analog outs were a day and night improvement over the SE. I do listen to allot of SACDs and blu-ray concerts so this factor alone was worth moving up.
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Between the 95 and 105, there will be a lot of argument on this thread, which is usually a good indication that differences are minor/negligible/nonexistent. I don't hear a difference between the 95 and 105, and that's running in a system with large speakers and pure analog out from the Oppo. And picture quality seems to be the same (of course, the 95 can't upscale to 4k).
But for other reasons (no fan, faster operation, better transport), etc., I much prefer the 105 to the 95. It's the Oppo I wish I could have bought at the time when upgrading from the SE. You are lucky to be able to do that in one shot.
Thanks for that. I was beginning to suspect as much.

As far as the much discussed fan noise, it's never been a problem for me. I have my 95 in an old 80s style (humungous) home theater cabinet with glass doors so the noise never escapes. I will concede that when I open the door to eject a shiny disc, the fan can be heard.

Thanks Jim for your insight. I think that at this point, I'm not convinced the 105 is for me. I'm a simpleton of sorts in that I only use my player for shiny discs and an occasional Pandora session so all the new built in connectivity of this player would go largely un-used. Not to mention that I would have to come up with some new way to hook up the 20" monitor attached to the 95 as the composite output on the 105 no longer puts out video other than the menu screen.
post #255 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post


In all seriousness, those who purchased the 105 to replace the 95 in their arsenal have been strangely silent. "Burn in" time should have just about ended by now and it's about time that we hear some first impressions folks. Or are y'all sooooo blown away that you haven't been able to leave your listening chair?smile.gif

Well, I've had the BDP-105 for about a week and am fortunate enough to still have my BDP-95 (purchaser hasnt' picked it up yet). However, I am also breaking in a pair of Paradigm Signature S8 after a brief stint with a piar of B&W 802 Diamonds. So I need to get accustomed to the BDP-95 through the Paradigms. As previously stated the BDP-105 need only not be a step back and early impressions indicate it will not be.smile.gif

I know a previous poster stated he thought the BDP-105 was better than the BDP-95 and was basically ask to defend his preference.eek.gif I say audition the unit in your setup and let your ears decide.smile.gif
post #256 of 10177
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post


To summarize, I highly recommend the 105 over the 95 if:
1 The 95's fan bugs you, and/or
2 The 95's heat bugs you, and/or
3 You want a built-in headphone amp, and/or
4 You want to decode external digital sources through the 105's DAC, and/or
5 You want faster startup and transitions
Otherwise you could probably just stick with the 95.

My reasons are 3, 4 & 5 (a big bonus). 1 and 2 were never an issue in my setup.smile.gif
post #257 of 10177
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Originally Posted by djkiwi View Post

Over the next few weeks, I'm going to do the following:
1. compare the Oppo to a variety of pre-amps in the $150-$15k range and decide whether the Oppo sounds better standalone or with a preamp.
2. Compare the Oppo to a variety of external DACs in the $500-$15k range to determine where the Oppo fits with differing priced dacs.
3. Compare a variety of amps with differing input impedance to determine whether it is a "true preamp". Despite the "theory" it should work, this needs real life testing as I've had mixed results in the past.
I hope other people post their comparisons on the above items as well so we can get a feel of where the 105 ranks in the grand scheme of things.
.....drooling.... can't wait for your results...!
post #258 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

Your 83SE to the 95 experience seems to match mine. Dedicated stereo outputs were slightly better but in my case, the multi-channel analog outs were a day and night improvement over the SE. I do listen to allot of SACDs and blu-ray concerts so this factor alone was worth moving up.

Found one of the reviews comparing actual specs:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/oppo-bdp-93/oppo-bdp-93-bdp-95-on-the-bench
post #259 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Regnad View Post

I have found that streaming music such as Pandora sounds better when I use a Mac mini as the source into the BD-105 USB rather than the built-in BD-105 services.
Perhaps this is because the streaming services often send higher bit-rates to computers rather than "devices".

Pandora offers "high bitrate" audio only to computers. All streaming players get the same lower-res audio. I think it's 64K stereo for streaming players and 128K for computers with the paid subscription.
post #260 of 10177
So what do people think about the headphone situation with the BDP-105? Say with a pair of Audeze LCD-2s?

Will a firmware change be able to up the power output enough to make this combination really work well? Or is it hardware (current) limited?

How about a headphone amp? Are there $500 or so head amps that would be sufficient to do a good job with the LCD-2s?

How about post-market mods? What is the likely cost? If it's going to be $500 or more I'd rather just get a good head amp like a Burson or Bryston.
post #261 of 10177
I have a high-end system including Kef reference 4.2 speakers and have both the 95 and 105 connected and they do not sound exactly the same. I already mentioned In an earlier post and 2 other posters with a 95 agreed that the 105 has a more defined and detailed treble. Bass may be marginally tighter as well but it was the high end that was most apparent. I would say the 105 is 15% better....so not huge but more than the other poster suggested in my humble opinion.
post #262 of 10177
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

Found one of the reviews comparing actual specs:
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/oppo-bdp-93/oppo-bdp-93-bdp-95-on-the-bench

83se?
post #263 of 10177
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Never thought of your scenario Luis, thanks. But what were you using before the 105? Component video / RCA audio from your cable box to your receiver?

I had/have the Oppo-bdp 95 and I was using a HDMI splitter (video only) as well as an audio switch for the center channel for both the Oppo and the Directv box with a dedicated amp for the job, basically I was listening to the Oppo LF and RF channels direct to my Belcanto amp for music and a none HDMI Arcam receiver that I use to power the 4 surround channels, it's complicated but it worked. the Oppo- bdp 105 changes all that as I can use the "HDMI-IN" in the unit for Directv and use the Oppo- bdp-105 as a receiver which outputs via 7.1 analog. I'm also thinking of maybe using the HDMI splitter for the 95 and directv in case the new Oppo bdp- 105 refuses to play something in the near future like Cinavia.

By the way, on a separate subject, I believe that the Oppo 105 is better than the 95 with music by more than 5% as it was stated before. I'm using the Oppo 105 direct to my Belcanto amp and my Gallo reference 3.1 speakers, and even though it is too early to tell as the player needs more brake-in, it sounds promising. There'a also a slight difference in video quality, the 105 seems cleaner, I still don't know which of the two I prefer on video.
post #264 of 10177
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

83se?

Yes. It was in response to:

Your 83SE to the 95 experience seems to match mine.

The discussion was, is there a noticeable difference between the 95 and the 105, similar to how there was both a subjective and objective difference between the SE and the 95. I was just showing what the objective differences were.

It would be nice if reviewers still knew how to operate a spectrum analyzer, so they could report on the objective differences between the 95 and the 105.
post #265 of 10177
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Originally Posted by JonStatt View Post

I have a high-end system including Kef reference 4.2 speakers and have both the 95 and 105 connected and they do not sound exactly the same. I already mentioned In an earlier post and 2 other posters with a 95 agreed that the 105 has a more defined and detailed treble. Bass may be marginally tighter as well but it was the high end that was most apparent. I would say the 105 is 15% better....so not huge but more than the other poster suggested in my humble opinion.

Yes. As I said earlier:

Between the 95 and 105, there will be a lot of argument on this thread, which is usually a good indication that differences are minor/negligible/nonexistent.
post #266 of 10177
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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

It would be nice if reviewers still knew how to operate a spectrum analyzer, so they could report on the objective differences between the 95 and the 105.
For this head over to www.hdfever.fr (in french, but google autotranslate helps), where tester Nicolas Becuwe does that to all units that go through his hands.
Very detailed spectral analysis for the 103, and work in progress for the 105 with his initial comments.
post #267 of 10177
OPPO UK Has Now Posted the 1114B Public Beta Firmware for the European model BDP-103EU and BDP-105EU Players!

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/customer-services/bdp-103-105eu/

For you folks with the European players, please do read the release notes BEFORE you install the Public Beta firmware. For folks coming from the older players, I'll just remind you again that the installation instructions HAVE CHANGED for the new players.

NOTE: You *CAN* roll back to the current, Official 1018 firmware if you try the Public Beta and run into any issues. Also note that going TO or FROM a Beta firmware install must be done using either the USB or Burned-disc install methods. As usual, Network update is not available when going TO or FROM a Beta firmware release to reduce the chances folks will accidentally install/remove a Beta release without realizing it is a Beta.

For some, unknown reason, OPPO UK has NOT listed the "known issue" with respect SD-DVD de-interlacing in this Public Beta. I DON'T believe they have incorporated a fix which might have arrived after the US Public Beta was built. I suspect instead, they have simply determined that the issue does not affect PAL SD-DVDs (which is likely true, given the nature of the problem). In any event, I fully expect this issue to be fixed before the next "Official" firmware release.
--Bob
post #268 of 10177
In the US, OPPO Digital has dropped the language showing Estimated First Shipment for the BDP-105 as being Monday, November 26.

Their on-line "Store" page now shows BOTH the BDP-103 and BDP-105 in stock and available for immediate shipment.

http://www.oppodigital.com/products.asp

Evidently, the big batch of units they were expecting, have arrived early.
--Bob
post #269 of 10177
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Originally Posted by bsauvage View Post

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Originally Posted by jimshowalter View Post

It would be nice if reviewers still knew how to operate a spectrum analyzer, so they could report on the objective differences between the 95 and the 105.
For this head over to www.hdfever.fr (in french, but google autotranslate helps), where tester Nicolas Becuwe does that to all units that go through his hands.
Very detailed spectral analysis for the 103, and work in progress for the 105 with his initial comments.

Here is a link for the Google translation of HD Fever's post so far regarding the receipt of the BDP-105EU -- i.e., prior to bench tests. As such the discussion is mainly on connectivity, along with photos of the externals and internals. I imagine, they'll have their bench tests available shortly.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.hdfever.fr/2012/11/17/reception-du-oppo-bdp-105eu/&usg=ALkJrhgYQOLAB-byk45B_TkJ0gjiMGMU3g

From the (auto translated) comments so far:
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In any case, the BDP-105EU looks superb dedicated stereo output! I watched a movie in stereo with the Pioneer A70 105EU connected to the cow! Spatialization Superb, very immersive, powerful, dynamic, musical, fast, tight bass, lots of details (well, this is the amp or drive or probably two that offer this report, but it is explosive and beautiful! )

I can only assume Nicolas is talking about an audiophile quality cow.... biggrin.gif

--Bob (notice how I refrained from making a joke about moo-sic?) P.
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 11/22/12 at 7:26pm
post #270 of 10177
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Do you mean to tell me that there are 2 dac's for the headphone:eek: at a minimum I would have settled for the rca's having 2 with the balanced being my first choice, maybe a future firmware will allow some kind of re assignment ?

Yes, 2 dacs for the headphone amplifier due to its drive requirements. No on re-assignment since this is 'hard-coded' or fixed by design into the PCB.

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