Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread - Page 89

I just tested with windows 8 professional. Everything went as expected and pretty much identical to windows 7.

Saw the pc, selected it, chose Music, then got a list of shares. Selected the 'Users' share, then logged in using windows login and password. I then browsed through the folders and selected a flac file and it played fine.

I am running the latest oppo firmware.

Thanks Stevepow

I am getting much closer now. I now see Media Monkey as a server, but there are no files when I select it. I just discovered that the min and max bitrate were both set to 0. This might be the problem and I am changing the max to 24. I will let you know if this works, but if you think I need to change another setting, please let me know.

Will the Oppo support 32 bits as input? I don't know where I would get a 32 bit file, but just wondering.

Thought I saw this somewhere but cant find it.

need mini monitor solution for my 105. Currently I am using my current universal player which. I am ableto connect to my processor via component input which paSsedthe sacd or DVD menu to a 5x7 monitor. I cant get menus via HDMI thru my Lexicon processor. What solutions are any of you using?

hi guys, pls some body let me know that what kind a cable is good to connect the DAC at the back side of the oppo 105....will appreciate that thx n bye.

You need a monitor with HDMI input, other than that anything is fine.

^^ Can also use a PC monitor. I use a small Asus which has a DVI input and is HDCP compliant. Just uses an adapter. But as it only likes 720p, that may not be convenient.

Same with Win7 - I re-installed Win Live Ess on the test machine and disabled that service - no go. I have to remove Win Live Ess for it to work. Again - all chasing after the wind; to get it working amounts to nothing useful.

Let me guess - no Windows Live Essentials installed?

Hi Bob,
I have no problems with CD/BD/DVD-V/DVD-A in the player. All my files are ripped to HDD in stereo (wave lossless format). I use 2-ch analog out to my Denon 5308.

Try the two experiments I suggested: See if the problem happens with a multi-channel audio file, and also try your stereo files with HDMI Audio set to OFF. Again, from the periodic nature of the audio drop I think that what may be happening is temporary audio muting due to confusion on the HDMI output side of the player, rather than some problem with the content input. It is possible the specific format of your WAV files may be the key (e.g., 96KHz 24-bit stereo). See if you have a shiny disc with a stereo audio track in that same format.

On the hard drive side of the equation, there's really nothing tricky about the player reading a WAV file like that from the hard drive. So it would have to be something else interrupting the hard drive such as if i was ALSO connected to a computer or if it was in an enclosure with other drives such that the enclosure might be diverting priority to the other drives for some reason.

Does your hard drive have external power or is getting its power from the USB socket in the OPPO? Another possibility is that the drive mistakenly thinks it should be going to sleep because it is on limited power.
--Bob

Thanks for the help Bob!

I disabled the HDMI audio and was able to play many tracks without any audio drop outs wireless to the 105. I will do some more experimenting tomorrow night.

OK, now we are getting somewhere. The problem appears to be in the HDMI output path, even though you are not using HDMI for audio.

So describe your HDMI connections from end to end. My guess is it is going to be something like 2 active HDMI paths to one device.
--Bob

I have received this mod from Bluraychip.dk and the installation instructions on their site are only for the 103. The 105 is completely different inside... Has anybody installed this into their 105 yet

Hi Bob,
Well, from the 105 HDMI outputs I have the original OPPO HDMI cable from HDMI 2 going in my Denon AVR-5308 receiver and HDMI 1 bypassing my AVR going direct to my JVC DLA-X75RB front projector. This was done because my AVR does not pass 3D. I don't use the HDMI input on the 105.

The start of a new review by Chris Martens

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The PC version of JRiver Media Center will look up album art. I'm not sure if it downloads and tags the art to the files or not or whether it just looks for album art each time you play something. JRiver Media Center PC will also convert file formats and, presumably, the Mac version will do both of those things also. Frankly, if you have a large-enough library drive, you may just want to leave the files in AIFF format. AIFF files sound just a hair (and I do mean a HAIR... very very small amount) better than FLAC files during playback (don't have a CLUE why that would be true). Obviously, you want to be using a RAID array or have duplicate hard disks with your music library on both (or even 3 hard disks -- and I've had TERRIBLE luck with large Seagate drives and zero problems with large Western Digital drives -- use power conditioning for the drives to protect the electronics. If you use a large Seagate drive and you begin hearing clicking... drive failure is starting (according to others who have had drives fail completely and according to Seagate tech support, I had 3 large Seagates begin clicking within 1 month of use). The amount of time it takes to create a 1TB music library is frighteningly large... it would be a massive tragedy to lose a large music library due to not enough backups.

To optimize sound quality from a Mac Mini... replace internal spinning hard disk with a solid state drive (64 GB is large enough if you don't use the Mac Mini for anything but music playback, boot/shutdown time is typically 10 seconds +/- depending on speed of solid-state drive. You can do this by yourself, but you need disassembly instructions for the Mac Mini that you can find online... be CAREFUL when pulling the circuit board out as a flex cable you neglect to disconnect can rip the surface-mount socket right off the circuit board. If the dissassembly instructions don't make a big point of that and how to avoid it, look for other dis-assembly instructions. Upgrade RAM to 8 GB... not sure why that helps but it does. Make sure if there is more than 1 USB device that they are on different logical USB busses. One of the Mac system utilties shows you this... there are 4 USB ports, but only 2 logical USB busses and the physical ports are not permanently assigned to a logical bus. I put the library hard disk in a FireWire 800 enclosure and use USB for the DAC and a small USB hub with a track ball and keyboard (leyboard needed to wake Mac from sleep mode as "wake on LAN" causes a lot of false "wake ups" when you use other devices on the network. I control the Mac Mini with an iPad and Splashtop running on the iPad and Mac Mini so there's no monitor connected to the Mac Mini (not sure that has anything to do with sound quality).

^^^^ ditto on the backups - we have our files on a Buffalo NAS (Raid 1 - mirrored) - very old and still kicking - not fast, but fast enough for this. All those file are backed up daily (changes only) to a WD Sentinel RAID 5 NAS. No way I'd want to have to start from scratch ever rebuilding it. The ultra-judicious would have the entire thing off-site or on a cloud as well. Having run a lot of high capacity RAID servers for pro-audio storage for years, I have decided drive brands don't matter so much - I have had as many WD failures and Seagate and Hitachi. Get the best warranty drives, keep backups, and when they fail, mail them in for a free replacement - if they outlast the warranty, then by the time they die, they will seem too small. I still have some 40/60/80 GB drives that are fine - just don't know what to do with them anymore...

OK. Are you by any chance turning OFF the projector while playing the music that has the drop outs? Also I presume you also have HDMI cabled from the output of the AVR to the projector, right?

Here's the next test then:

Turn HDMI Audio output back on from the OPPO, but this time physically disconnect the unused HDMI output cable between the AVR and the projector.

Play your music and see if he dropouts are still gone. If so, then there's likely a bug in the AVR which may be triggered by the way you are using the projector. I'll have some workarounds to suggest in that case.
--Bob

I have the stock windows 8 pro installed, and yes I have Live Essentials 2011 installed. I'm a little different though I am logging into a domain which afaik trumps the windows live login. Perhaps there's a difference between Win 8 pro vs win 8 home premium?

Maybe try adding a local user "oppo" just for accessing shares.

For troubleshooting windows share problems, I'd see if you can see/mount shares from another PC on your network. That will be easier than going through the Oppo prompts each time.

Wayneniz
The difference in the 103 and 105 installation is that you need to remove the 2 analogue audio boards then install following the instructions.
I have not been able to get my pro kit to work though. Let me know if yours works.

Bob,
The audio dropouts occur with the projector on. Yes, I have HDMI going from the AVR(has two HDMI outs) to HDMI 1 input on projector. The AVR is used for all my HDMI switching and the OPPO HDMI 1 to JVC HDMI 2 is the only thing outside of the AVR HDMI switching.

Drop out when playing through USB port have something to do with the data transfer speed/buffers. If one play from a memory stick with a quite low data transfer capacity, then drop out appear on the resulting sound on 105 model. If one play files (transfer files) from an high speed device (hard disk/SSD) then those drop out do not occur.
One may know that those "music" files as any other data files, when they are transferred from a place (folder, hardware device etc.) to another one, memory buffers are involved in such transfers. The data must be stored somewhere in this process, errors have to be corrected, and/or the different transfer speeds have to be adapted in this way, and so on. This is a quite complex process which take place in an microprocessor, or computing device. 105 player is a such device at last. The same problem appear when is about HDMI caused drop out for an ongoing audio outputted signal. A streaming process (everything in this player is based on streaming of data) it use also buffers, and memory chips to succeed to do the job without errors (drop out or another alterations of the resulting data/signal). When an HDMI connected device is powered on, the main processor in 105 get the message to modify the presented streaming processes to make the necessary "place" to that device which is powered on (and will have to use that HDMI streaming mode). This "rearrangement". of the streaming processes inside the microprocessor and its connected devices, take a defined time (interruption) which is outputted in that ongoing streamed data as drop outs. The already ongoing streaming process(es) have to wait (shorter or longer period of time/ms) for that a new streaming process get in its parameters and be taken in account by the microprocessor, to be processed futher. The design of the software and the correct use of the internal buffers may prevent such issues. It seems that Oppo have not entirely succeed to get rid of those problems....
This kind of issues were a big problem for 95 model when audio it were interrupted (large drop outs) by an outside HDMI connected device which it were powered on. But it were no such problems for 95 with USB connected devices and theirs transfer/streaming of data.
I could notice that the latest firmware of 105 model have corrected this aspect (drop out when HDMI devices are connected) . It is not any drop out now on ongoing audio when HDMI device is suddenly connected (powered on). Maybe Oppo have to work a little bit more around the USB stages of the 105 model, to completely remove this problem. We may hope that future firmware(s) will fix this negative aspect...
Edited by Coris - 1/10/13 at 1:29pm

I have been keeping up with this forum since it's inception as I am thinking about getting my first Oppo BD Player. I have come to the realization I need get up to speed with the players capabilities first and I have a lot of learning to do. I gave my wife a cd to take to work so she could download it to her computer and one of her co-worker's remarked, Mike still buys cd's? I guess I am starting to feel obsolete , and a lot of the posts I have read confirms it.

RickS,
Try the experiment I suggested with HDMI Audio output enabled again in the OPPO and with the HDMI from the AVR to the projector temporarily disconnected.

If that also makes your audio dropout problem go away then the problem is definitely in HDMI (likely an AVR bug) and not in either the USB or Wifi into the OPPO.

There are settings changes we can try in the AVR and projector which may cure this.
--Bob

Thanks Bob,
I will try it out tonight when I get home from work.......have to pay for all this HT addiction stuff!!!

Hi Mike,
Get the box and prove yourself wrong i'd say. I make the rough assumption that most people on this thread still buy cd's, sacd's and other shiny formats as their (initial) music source. Why else get a disc spinner like the 105, although it does a lot more really nicely as well. Fact remains that as long as the main stream downloads are low fi, you getting a cd means u care about the quality of your music. Nothing to feel obsolete about IMHO.

Just as a data point using WIN 8 Pro with a local log-in here. No luck logging in from the Oppo. My other WIN7, WHS, BSD machines not only work with the Oppo but also the WIN 8 box. Will look at it again this weekend to make sure I'm not missing something obvious.

Are you getting the oppo screen where it asks for credentials? And you supply credentials? What happens after that?

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--Bob

I messed around with Win8 Pro today - no go, even after removing Live Ess 2012 and even trying a local account. That's all I tried - just not worth worrying over.