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post #2761 of 10116
I have an update on my Oppo. Overall I'd give it A for sound quality and B+ for general operation.

Using as a pre/pro is working awesome. I'm between 30-75 on digital voume control going into Emotive UPA-1s and focal electras. That's on the RCA jacks. I tried balanced cables and it seemed too hot, I was going from 10 - 35 on volume as I recall.

Sound quality is awesome. I can crank this system up very high and it remains clear.

A few problems

My Motorola Comcast box does not connect reliably via HDMI, it toggles between working and a green screen every 10 seconds. I hope they fix this soon.
Some flac files will cause the player to crash or operate strangely. If I re-encode the flacs with foobar 2000 it fixes them.
The remote is OK, It's not that snappy, sometimes you have to hold buttons down longer than natural. i don't like where the backlit button is and the volume control. I wish companies would use sides of remote for some functions. This is just a minor thing though.

A major recommendation for BubbleUPNP on Android device. I can control oppo without the projector on. And maintain playlists and snappy and robust interface. I run it with a Logitech Media Server running on the network server.
post #2762 of 10116
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Originally Posted by edemtbs View Post

Netflix content not loading was happening before you had the Oppo in the system, you state that the same problem would occur with the Roku.

What kind of cable/modem gateway do you have?

My suspicion is that either the cable/modem or the cable service itself is the culprit. I had similar issues until I upgraded my cable/modem gateway - from an old Linksys WCG200 to Cisco DPC3008 cable modem and Asus RT-AC66U router. The router is ethernet cable connected to both the Cisco and the Oppo BDP-105. I've not had the Netflix freeze problem since upgrading.

As to the elegance of how the Oppo handles the Netflix problem, I'm not sure.

I'm also interested in expert answers to your #5 question.

Ed

Thank you for the tip. I have the same Linksys model you had, the WCG200, so I should talk to my cable company about getting a new one. I'm not surprised that there are sometimes problems connecting to Netflix, but I *am* surprised that the BDP-105 freezes and requires a restart. I suppose I was expecting that the "HOME" button would return control.

Would you recommend the Cisco and Asus models you have if I buy my own? If your BDP-105 can't connect to Neflix what does your system currently do? Does the "HOME" button work?

An answer to question #5 appears below.

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

All player setup is locked out while in Netflix. this is by design and is a requirement of the Netflix license. Any adjustment you wish to make must be done before entering the streaming app.

Thank you for the details. I've been turning the HDMI audio off and on depending on whether I'm listening to my stereo or my TV (I do this because a few posts above indicated that there might be issues/problems/concerns with the analog stereo output if the HDMI audio is also on; I may have overreacted to what I read) and I sometimes forget to turn it back on before bringing up Netflix.
post #2763 of 10116
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

10' and it replaced a Wirelogic Sapphire cable of similar length.

Thanks Torqdog. I'm going to get around to using both my existing HDMI cables on my 105 to evaluate performance. But that'll probably be next weekend. I'll try to remember to post back.

And the Redmere technology, at its lower price point, is compeling. I may give it a go.
post #2764 of 10116
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Originally Posted by drmarg58 View Post

Oppo customer services says it is an HTCP (copyright protection) issue which is instilled by my cable company. The 105 does not have the firmware to handle this issue yet but is in the works. It is only happening to a few customers at this point. Lucky me!

HDCP 1014 error. My Uverse box worked for almost two weeks before the issue started tonight . . . Lucky for me also. . .
post #2765 of 10116
Just wanted to thank all that responded to my posts of audio dropouts during network playback over wireless. This weekend I installed a 8-port switch and ran and made quite a few Cat5e cables and disabled all wireless components in my rack. I have played hours of music over the network
(wired smile.gif ) and have not one audio dropout.
post #2766 of 10116
Didn't have my phone with me and wanted to listen some tunes on the BDP-105, so I searched for a DLNA controller for Ubuntu. Only found one... and it's pretty basic:

https://live.gnome.org/GUPnP

But it got the job done. Any recommendations for a full-featured linux DMC?

Thanks,

Styln
post #2767 of 10116
I think XBMC http://xbmc.org/ really stands out as the best one and with very active development. Can run on multiple platforms.
post #2768 of 10116
SOUND CHECK!

With 94+ pages of ongoing hardware, software, firmware tech talk about the BDP-105 and not so much about sound quality,

I started a separate "sound only" only thread for audiophile types and anyone who might be interested in providing feedback.

Link Here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1451764/oppo-bdp-105-sound-quality-check-thread-for-audiophiles
post #2769 of 10116
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

Didn't have my phone with me and wanted to listen some tunes on the BDP-105, so I searched for a DLNA controller for Ubuntu. Only found one... and it's pretty basic:

https://live.gnome.org/GUPnP

But it got the job done. Any recommendations for a full-featured linux DMC?

Thanks,

Styln

As people report them to me I add them to the FAQ: Is the player a Digital Media Renderer?

-Bill
post #2770 of 10116
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Originally Posted by NW. View Post

Thank you for the tip. I have the same Linksys model you had, the WCG200, so I should talk to my cable company about getting a new one. I'm not surprised that there are sometimes problems connecting to Netflix, but I *am* surprised that the BDP-105 freezes and requires a restart. I suppose I was expecting that the "HOME" button would return control.

Would you recommend the Cisco and Asus models you have if I buy my own? If your BDP-105 can't connect to Neflix what does your system currently do? Does the "HOME" button work?

An answer to question #5 appears below.
Thank you for the details. I've been turning the HDMI audio off and on depending on whether I'm listening to my stereo or my TV (I do this because a few posts above indicated that there might be issues/problems/concerns with the analog stereo output if the HDMI audio is also on; I may have overreacted to what I read) and I sometimes forget to turn it back on before bringing up Netflix.
I upgraded the modem and router before I got the BDP-105 so I never ran into the **home** button challenge you have with that unit. My old Panasonic BD player would sometimes hang and need to be powered off/on in order to fix the Netflix connectivity issues, it was frustrating.

When I upgraded the modem and router the wifi in the house improved dramatically. I would recommend them although it's possible that just about any wifi upgrade would have helped, the Linksys was not great.

I used to connect the Panasonic BD player solely via wifi, now the BDP-105 is cable connected to the router.

Ed
post #2771 of 10116
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Originally Posted by edemtbs View Post


When I upgraded the modem and router the wifi in the house improved dramatically. I would recommend them although it's possible that just about any wifi upgrade would have helped, the Linksys was not great.

I have tried a variety of WiFi gear in the past. My current unit is a Netgear WNDR3700 which is pretty advanced.

However I think with the range limits and crowded spectrum of the various types of wireless available today people who can't run a CAT6 cable should look at the possibility of powerline networking. It doesn't work in every home because it is dependent on the quality of the wiring, but when it does work it's really much better than wireless, especially if you are streaming video.
post #2772 of 10116
I hope everyone who has the HDMI sync issue with the green screen and the glitching sound brings the issue to Oppo customer support, so they are encouraged to fix it soon.
post #2773 of 10116
Thread Starter 
OPPO does not fix things based on the number of complaints or observations. They fix things within their capability. Audio and video synchronization and HDMI handshaking issues are their top priorities, but there is so far no new information as to when they will be resolved,
post #2774 of 10116
OK. Being in the software industry myself, I know that a few reports can easily be dismissed as "Brand X Thing doesn't work right with our thing" whereas numerous reports of failures with variety of hardware would change the story.
post #2775 of 10116
Thread Starter 
I can tell you for a fact that this is not the case. The chorus of many is not required for your HDMI input issues, as this not a simple demand or product request; this is a genuine failure of the original design objective.
post #2776 of 10116
Got to go with Jeff here. I work in software and there's always a list of problems. Definitely will prioritize with customer feedback.
post #2777 of 10116
* Face-palm *
post #2778 of 10116

Why the facepalm Bob? I obviously have missed the genesis of this discussion...

post #2779 of 10116
Bob, I have a question regarding to set up the video of "Dual Display" option. I need two hdmi output connection, Is "Dual Display" option still able to Qdeo processing for HDMI1?
Thanks in advance.
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post #2781 of 10116
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Originally Posted by VRDnhorns View Post

HDCP 1014 error. My Uverse box worked for almost two weeks before the issue started tonight . . . Lucky for me also. . .

Aremoving power cord from motorola VIP1600 for ten seconds and reconnecting solved the issue this time.
post #2782 of 10116
Forgive me if this information is located somewhere in this thread, but I would really like to get some clarification before purchasing an Oppo 105.

Does the Oppo 105 upsample audio or play it natively? I plan to use the usb dac with my computer and wanted to make sure 44.1 is played natively at 44.1, 96 is played natively at 96, etc. etc. I understand the bit processing is done at 32 bits and I'm fine with that.

How does the volume control function in relation to output level? Does the volume range go from 0-100 in .5dB step intervals? For example, if I turned the volume down to 80 on the volume control would the volume be -10dB from max volume? the reason I ask is I plan to use the balanced outputs and want to reduce the gain with the volume control to better match the balanced inputs on my preamp. 4.4 volts is too hot for my preamp.

Finally, my last question, does it display the sample rate of audio on the player display or only if you have a monitor attached?

Any and all input is appreciated.
post #2783 of 10116
I have a question regarding the use of the split HDMI outs. I understand the general theory of keeping things separate anytime possible. Separating audio & video from inside the player, turning off video functions within the player while listening to music, etc.My question is how much difference will it actually make using one HDMI out for video direct to my projector & the other for audio to the processor?

The reason i ask is that I play a lot of Bluray & DVD-Audio music only discs where it's important to be able to access the menus without having to turn on my projector. I want to be able to connect a 7" monitor with HDMI input to view the menus on these discs. I am using a Lexicon MC-12HDEQ processor which only has 1 HDMI out. i need this HDMI for those times I view TiVo as it runs to the Processor. If I use 1 HDMI out or the 105 for both Audio & Video I could then use HDMI 2 to go direct into that 7" monitor, thus being able to view the menus when necessary. As it stands now, using the split HDMI I'm unable to do that. If I keep it this way I will have to run the processor out to the monitor....then disconnect it & place back into the projector when i want to watch TiVo. Not a convenient solution at all.

I am all about optimizing for the best possible audio & video but this issue has me really thinking hard about the true value of using the split HDMI in the 105.

Thanks for any input.

JR
post #2784 of 10116
Thanks Rick,

I got it now.
post #2785 of 10116
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johsti View Post

Does the Oppo 105 upsample audio or play it natively? I plan to use the usb dac with my computer and wanted to make sure 44.1 is played natively at 44.1, 96 is played natively at 96, etc. etc. I understand the bit processing is done at 32 bits and I'm fine with that.

It does not technically upsample, but you are getting some amount of padding to the signal as the player is using 32-bit processing to the signal, so the bitrate is always "enhanced" when using the analog outputs.
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How does the volume control function in relation to output level? Does the volume range go from 0-100 in .5dB step intervals?

I do not know the maximum dB of the player, so I really do not have a good answer for you. But the player uses .5dB increments with each VOL press of the player. I would just lower the volume to 1 and go from there and figure out what works for your system. If you find that 1 is too much, then put in some attenuators in-line to reduce the voltage even further.
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Finally, my last question, does it display the sample rate of audio on the player display or only if you have a monitor attached?

You will need a display.
post #2786 of 10116
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRDiAndrea View Post

I have a question regarding the use of the split HDMI outs. I understand the general theory of keeping things separate anytime possible. Separating audio & video from inside the player, turning off video functions within the player while listening to music, etc.My question is how much difference will it actually make using one HDMI out for video direct to my projector & the other for audio to the processor?

As long as the receiver is set to do no video processing, or the output of the player is the same output resolution of the receiver, you should not really need to worry about the receiver doing any kind of incorrect video processing to the signal. It is pretty safe to connect the player through the receiver for video in this kind of configuration.
post #2787 of 10116
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I do not know the maximum dB of the player, so I really do not have a good answer for you. But the player uses .5dB increments with each VOL press of the player. I would just lower the volume to 1 and go from there and figure out what works for your system. If you find that 1 is too much, then put in some attenuators in-line to reduce the voltage even further.

Thanks for the response. What is the volume scale? 1-100 or 1-10 or some other relative scale?
post #2788 of 10116
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Originally Posted by HaroldKumar View Post

Got to go with Jeff here. I work in software and there's always a list of problems. Definitely will prioritize with customer feedback.
I too am a software developer. I'm also one of the Oppo beta testers. I can assure you that Neuromancer's statements are entirely accurate. Just because some companies work on things based on how loud people yell doesn't mean that every company has to (or should) work that way. wink.gif

Please don't make Bob hit his head against the wall again - we need him over in beta test land biggrin.gif.
post #2789 of 10116
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Originally Posted by VRDnhorns View Post

Aremoving power cord from motorola VIP1600 for ten seconds and reconnecting solved the issue this time.

This is not an Oppo issue, it's a Moto cable box issue... I had the same issue when connecting my Moto set top box to the 3D inputs on my AVM 50v. Did a ton of research on the issue, and it's a long standing issue. The Moto boxes (and some others) simply can't HTCP with some 3D devices... particularly when that device is between the Moto box and the final display device, which is why I think some people blame the Oppo, or the processor, when the issue is really the cable box.
post #2790 of 10116
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

As long as the receiver is set to do no video processing, or the output of the player is the same output resolution of the receiver, you should not really need to worry about the receiver doing any kind of incorrect video processing to the signal. It is pretty safe to connect the player through the receiver for video in this kind of configuration.

THx Neuromancer. I suspected as much but wanted to be sure I wasnt missing anything. The Lexicon will simply pass the video thru.
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