Originally Posted by drumgail Hi;
I purchased the Oppo -105 as soon as it became available, my set up is running the Oppo out of HDMI 1 into my Onkyo TX-VR 809 Receiver, then HDMI out of the audio receiver into the TV (Sharp LC-60LE632U) for my video, should I run the HDMI out of the OPPO straight into the TV? If I do this, what is done about the audio for the Receiver?
You can do that using "HDMI Split" Mode: HDMI1 to the TV for the video, and HDMI2 to the receiver for the audio.
I was also trying to run HDMI 2 out of the Oppo into my receiver for audio for my DVD-Audio and SACD playback because I have several discs and love the DSD sound, doing this, I had no sound coming out of HDMI 1 using the HDMI AV Split setting, I got audio when I went to the Dual Display HDMI setting, I got 2 different responses from Oppo when I talked to them, one was that by using the Dual Display setting I am not getting the best audio possible, another was that it was ok to use the dual display setting, I want the best audio on HDMI 2 and the best Video/Audio on HDMI 1.
If you use split mode, it is by design that there is no audio from HDMI1 - this explains it well: http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-103-faq#how-does-dual-hdmi-output-work
. For most receivers that cannot "matrix" HDMI video to different sources (listen to one input while watching HDMI video from another), split mode will only be useful with HDMI1 connected directly to the TV. Then you need another input on your TV to use for the AVR menus.
I bought the Onkyo because of the DSD decoding capabilities. By using the HDMI 2 output instead of going analog out of the Oppo am I shortchanging the sound possibilities? Should I not be concerned about the DSD decoding in the Onkyo and just run analog cables? I believe the Onkyo does the DSD decoding over the HDMI, not sure if it will decode it over analog cables. Does the analog quality outweigh the HDMI DSD method?
The main reason for buying the BDP-105 versus the 103 is to take advantage of the analog outputs. For playing content over HDMI, both players are identical. So you spent about $600 for the analog outputs - and they do sound very good. There are 3 possibilities for SACD DSD playback:
1 - Set the Oppo SACD Playback mode to DSD and use the analog outputs. This avoids ALL processing in the Oppo (no speaker trim, no crossover/bass management, etc) - it is a very pure way to play SACD and you hear the mix as it was engineered. If your speakers are placed well and your room sounds good, this can be an awesome way to hear SACD.
2 - Set the Oppo SACD mode to PCM and use the Oppo analog ouputs. This will take advantage of the Oppo processing - speaker trim, crossover/bass management, etc.
3 - Send DSD or PCM over HDMI to your Onkyo to playback. If you send DSD to the Onkyo, you most likely lose all the processing the Onkyo can do (bass management, trim, Audyssey, etc). If you send PCM to Onkyo, then you take advantage of all the processing the Onkyo can do including Audyssey. But you are now using the Onkyo converters and analog section rather than the well-regarded Oppo analog section. Which sounds better? You have to do some listening and decide.
If I go strictly HDMI, I am trying to go best possible Video for HDMI 1 and best audio for HDMI 2 but to use the AV Split setting, it would force me to pull out the HDMI connection in the back of the Oppo out and move it when I want to play blu ray and when I wand to play SACD which is inconvenient, The Oppo Tech said just leave it in HDMI 2, that the video improvement would not warrant the inconvenience, saying that the only difference on HDMI 1 is Contrast Enhancement, Noise Reduction and 4K capabilities.
For split AV, you leave HDMI1 connected to the TV and HDMI2 to the receiver - there should be no need to shuffle the connections around.
I recently sold my home and moved into a new one, my basement man cave in the new home will not be finished until I get more funds, unfortunately I had to leave much of my home theater as well as my old PSB Stratus speakers as part of the selling price of my old house. I am currently using for my living room setup: Onkyo TX-NR 809, Wharfedale Diamond 8.4 for fronts, Wharfedale Diamond 10 CS for center, 2 JBL ES250 12" for Subs and my wife made me put speakers in the ceiling for aesthetics for surround, I think it is Dayton Audio Ultra Series, Acoustic Research AR-1 turnatable and now the Oppo-105.
What should my suggested setup and settings on the Oppo be? Not ready to run separate amps into Oppo, but should I go analog out for SACD/DVD-Audio playback? Since HDMI 1 will control the Video/Audio of the bluray, if I go analog, what do you use for the visual of the SACD menu and the DVD-Audio visual functions? The Oppo is capable of running HDMI 1 out and analog at the same time right?
You should at least try analog playback of SACD/DVD Audio - although you may like the processing from the Onkyo better - that depends on so many things, only you can decide that.
HDMI1 Video with simultaneous Analog out works fine - in Split AV or Dual mode.
In Split or Dual mode, the Oppo menu screens for playback control and setup appear on both HDMI 1 & 2. If you are using Split AV and connecting HDMI1 directly to the TV, you'll have to switch to another input on the TV that is connected to the Onkyo AVR to change any of the AVR settings. If this is inconvenient, you have to decide if Split AV is worth it for any perceived video quality improvements.
Lastly, the audio/video sync issue on the Oppo I have had from day one is very concerning to me, I would think that this would have been resolved prior to it's release.
Be easy on me, I am not that astute at Audio/Video, but I love it ! Thanks .....Mark