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post #3121 of 5566
1/21/13 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

So since a few of you have upgraded to the BDP-105 I am wondering those who upgraded from the BDP-95 is the sound better? Do you feel it was worth it!

I upgraded from the 95 to get rid of the fan. It was worth that by itself--blessed silence at last!

Subjectively, I think the 105 does sound better than the 95, but I didn't have a way to do A/B testing, and it could just be expectation bias (although I didn't have any expectation that it would sound better).
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post #3122 of 5566
1/21/13 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post


Any chance discrete on and off commands are coming?

It has that now. There is no room on the remote anymore but the codes should still be available.

-Bill
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post #3123 of 5566
1/21/13 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

We have a FAQ article on that: How do I select an INPUT source with a programmable remote?

-Bill

Thank you so much. This worked. 1 for CD and 6 for Optical.

Thanks again
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post #3124 of 5566
1/21/13 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by TrebleClef View Post

Hey, that's great. I can't wait to try that out tonight!

Thank you very much.

What INPUT SOURCE do I set on the OPPO when it is receiving digital music via ethernet? FWIW, I have the 105 connected directly to my power amps.

Hi TrebleClef,
Sorry for the late answer: you do not need to select any specific INPUT. Pushing files from the server to the OPPO takes precedence over the actual selection.
Controlling everything from either the PC on which MC18 is installed or the tablet/iOs app is a breeze!

Best
Kami
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post #3125 of 5566
1/21/13 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

I'm not sure if this is what you need, but on the OPPO website there is an external sensor made specifically for the Oppo players.
Accessories>>IR Accessories>>IR ES-2 external IR sensor for bdp 93/95/103/105. Costs $29.

Thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for and I'm embarrassed I didn't see it on the OPPO website myself redface.gif
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post #3126 of 5566
1/21/13 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by tme110 View Post

Your pushing the wrong button. You select the long horizontal skinny button that has a black down arrow at the end. The small button with the 3 dots is the wrong button but it will take you to the 'configure upnp controller' option you mentioned.

I got this working. I feel like I wrestled it into submission, but it works. Thanks again to all who took time to answer my questions. Now all I need to do is rip 2,000 CDs and boom--media server!
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post #3127 of 5566
1/21/13 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by Arrius View Post

Hi TrebleClef,
Sorry for the late answer: you do not need to select any specific INPUT. Pushing files from the server to the OPPO takes precedence over the actual selection.
Controlling everything from either the PC on which MC18 is installed or the tablet/iOs app is a breeze!

Best
Kami

Seems to be working.

Fabulous.

Thank you, Kami.
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post #3128 of 5566
1/21/13 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by rramacha View Post

Hello All

I got my 105 yesterday and been playing with it. I have a quick question using this as a DAC for my Squeezebox Touch.

Thanks in advance

Do you still need the Squeezebox? You can send your digital files directly to the oppo via dlna thus eliminating the quirky spdif optical interface...keep it simple...
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post #3129 of 5566
1/21/13 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

So since a few of you have upgraded to the BDP-105 I am wondering those who upgraded from the BDP-95 is the sound better? Do you feel it was worth it!

Hi, wse, Just do a search using "PugetsoundHD" as we did a thorough comparison of the 95 and 105 at least for 2-channel.

We do have a brief update as we used the 105 with a Simaudio 600i integrated last week. Sound much the same as a direct connection to our two AudioPrism Debut II amps which is to say a substantial upgrade from the 95. No discernible difference using 2-channel RCA or balanced out.

(As an aside we did find using the balanced outs from a Simaudio 310LP phono amp to have a magic about it that the single ended lacked.)

Under "finally, rain promised again!" Seattle skies, Gill
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post #3130 of 5566
1/21/13 at 9:03pm
Thanks to everyone for their inputs on getting the JRiver MC software to stream to the Oppo as a DNLP renderer. I seem to have that working fine now.

Next up is trying to get the Asynchronous DAC connection to work. I currently have the Oppo driver downloaded on my Windows XP laptop but there seemed to be an issue with the driver loading properly since Windows asks to search for the driver whenever I connect to the USB input. I do see the Oppo software is loaded and can look at the Oppo Control Panel and Spy Tool under my Programs menu. I can't seem to find a way to set my output to the Oppo instead of the internal sound card in any of the Control Panel menus. The instructions on the Oppo site are for Windows 7 and don't correlate to XP.

The good news is that I have a new laptop coming next week with Windows 7 so I can wait if necessary.

Thanks
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post #3131 of 5566
1/21/13 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by delkat View Post

Thanks to everyone for their inputs on getting the JRiver MC software to stream to the Oppo as a DNLP renderer. I seem to have that working fine now.

Next up is trying to get the Asynchronous DAC connection to work. I currently have the Oppo driver downloaded on my Windows XP laptop but there seemed to be an issue with the driver loading properly since Windows asks to search for the driver whenever I connect to the USB input. I do see the Oppo software is loaded and can look at the Oppo Control Panel and Spy Tool under my Programs menu. I can't seem to find a way to set my output to the Oppo instead of the internal sound card in any of the Control Panel menus. The instructions on the Oppo site are for Windows 7 and don't correlate to XP.

The good news is that I have a new laptop coming next week with Windows 7 so I can wait if necessary.

Thanks

This may help - http://www.tinyeye.com/avsetup/soundsetup_xp.html - yes, pretty clunky compared to Win7.
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post #3132 of 5566
1/21/13 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by fenario View Post

Do you still need the Squeezebox? You can send your digital files directly to the oppo via dlna thus eliminating the quirky spdif optical interface...keep it simple...

Two Reasons I am keeping Squeezebox:

1. Squeezebox app lets me see album/artist etc using iPad app. I don't have to keep my projector on.
2. All my music is ripped as Apple Lossless. Unfortunately Oppo doesn't play that format. I may have to re rip and not really looking forward to that.

Cheers
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post #3133 of 5566
1/21/13 at 11:19pm
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Originally Posted by rramacha View Post

Two Reasons I am keeping Squeezebox:

1. Squeezebox app lets me see album/artist etc using iPad app. I don't have to keep my projector on.
2. All my music is ripped as Apple Lossless. Unfortunately Oppo doesn't play that format. I may have to re rip and not really looking forward to that.

Cheers

3. The Squeezebox doesn't have to be wrestled into submission. It just works.
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post #3134 of 5566
1/22/13 at 1:34am
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Originally Posted by Doug Blackburn View Post


Toslink is a bad connection option for digital music playback because the interface itself is not designed to maintain the timing accuracy of the bits.

SPDIF over coax is problematic because coax terminated with RCAs does not maintain 75 ohm impedance in the cable... BNC connectors would have been a far better standard for SPDIF because they maintain the 75 ohm requirement that reduces internal signal reflections along the cable).

Right now, the best sounding transmission method for music playback in my experience is USB, particularly when the DAC receiving the digital music operates asynchronously (the DAC controls the flow of data from the computer... if the USB DAC is not asynchronous, the computer controls data flow to the DAC and that is NOT a good thing).

How does HDMI rank for music playback compared to S/PDIF & Toslink?
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post #3135 of 5566
1/22/13 at 6:01am
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Originally Posted by 1soupmeister View Post

close to pulling the trigger on the 105. I have a Motorola STB VIP 2262 and Apple TV. What is the best way to hook these up to the 105 and back to the TV which has 2 HDMI inputs. Audio will run from the 105 direct to the amps using the analogue outputs. No audio from the TV. What's best? The STB into the HDMI in the back of the 105 and the Apple to the HDMI in the front? Will the 105 then process the audio based on which box is in use and will the audio be processed automatically from the HDMI inputs or should I use the optical in from the STB? If this has already been covered please refer me to the post.
Thanks

People I'm not feeling the love here. I know mine is pretty basic request compared to some of the very technical questions that have been posted but I would like some direction on what the best solution would be for the "video" connections I am asking about. Someone suggested connecting the HDMI out of the Apple TV directly to the TV but isn't that self defeating by not taking advantage of the processor of the HDMI-1 output? Then I also would have to use the Toslink for the audio to my amps.
Anyway if this has already been covered or if you have suggestions then please refer me to the area &/or posts where I can find the answers.
BTW I am purchasing the 105 primarily because of the audio capabilities and will be replacing a Myryad Prepro. I'm ok with the audio connections etc., hence the video questions.
Thank you everyone for the informative posts on the site and look forward to a response.
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post #3136 of 5566
1/22/13 at 6:28am
I use the Apple TV into the rear hdmi port with no problems.
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post #3137 of 5566
1/22/13 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

3. The Squeezebox doesn't have to be wrestled into submission. It just works.

The batch converter in dbpoweramp makes the conversion easy (from Apple, FLAC, etc. to .wav, for example). Kinsky on the iPad will push files to the 105 from the server. A better option, once all of the bugs are worked out, is JRemote. I am currently using it with JRiver MC (18). The JRemote app gives you bit depth and resolution of the file you are playing and can even pull a bio of the artist from the web. All sorts of playlist options, etc. Just, right now, a lot of bugs.

I also have a Squeezebox, which is being retired in favor of the 105. I like being able to play 24/192 content on the 105, which the Squeezebox will not do.
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post #3138 of 5566
1/22/13 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by bgunn View Post

I have Foobar2000, but do not see any config setting to output to a network (like Windows Media Player has the Play To functionality). I'd be thrilled if I could make it work for audio.

I love JRiver's MC18 ($50) and JRemote ($10) combination. MC18 has it's own built in DNLA server. JRemote is outstanding on the iPad as front end control for your library (music, video or photos)
Edited by FMD - 1/22/13 at 11:32am
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post #3139 of 5566
1/22/13 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

How does HDMI rank for music playback compared to S/PDIF & Toslink?

You should try them and see if you can hear a difference. I cannot. The claims that SPDIF and Tos have issues are completely unverifiable. Use good, reasonable cables, and follow the specs for how long they are and you won't have any problems with any of those interfaces. I don't know why these myths persist - with the right equipment and some fairly easy tests, they are easy to dispel; you can transfer digital audio back and forth over AES, SPDIF, or TOS all day long and never lose a single bit of data - it is just a data stream - and the Oppo DACs are well-designed to take that stream and turn it back into analog audio that sounds as good as the material you give it.

But don't take my word for it - listen and use what sounds best to you.
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post #3140 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by FMD View Post

I love JRiver's MC18 ($50) and JRemote ($10) combination. MC18 has it's own built in DNLA server. JRemote is outstanding on the iPad as front end control for you library (music, video or photos)

I'm in the process of becoming a JRiver devotee in conjunction with my OPPO.

I suppose their licensing structure is one PC per $50.00 license.


...sigh...
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post #3141 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by TrebleClef View Post

I'm in the process of becoming a JRiver devotee in conjunction with my OPPO.

I suppose their licensing structure is one PC per $50.00 license.


...sigh...

I beleive their licensing scheme let's you load multiple PCs for the $50 fee.
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post #3142 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by stevepow View Post

You should try them and see if you can hear a difference. I cannot. The claims that SPDIF and Tos have issues are completely unverifiable. Use good, reasonable cables, and follow the specs for how long they are and you won't have any problems with any of those interfaces. I don't know why these myths persist - with the right equipment and some fairly easy tests, they are easy to dispel; you can transfer digital audio back and forth over AES, SPDIF, or TOS all day long and never lose a single bit of data - it is just a data stream - and the Oppo DACs are well-designed to take that stream and turn it back into analog audio that sounds as good as the material you give it.

But don't take my word for it - listen and use what sounds best to you.

Just a pet peeve of mine but S/PDIF is TOSLINK the question should be S/PDIF over coax or TOSLINK...thanks I feel better now.

I agree with Steve, the jitterbugs are out there but I think most newer interfaces when correctly implemented pretty much have jitter under control.
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post #3143 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by delkat View Post

I beleive their licensing scheme let's you load multiple PCs for the $50 fee.

Just curious why you would need the server on more then one machine. You can access the server from your other machines using the web interface can't you?

From their webpage:
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Q: Can I install on more than one PC?
A: During the two-week period after you have purchased or restored, you can use the Install Key you received to activate the program on your other PC’s. You may use the program on your work PC and on your home PC's with a single license.

Edited by obie_fl - 1/22/13 at 10:16am
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post #3144 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by rramacha View Post

Two Reasons I am keeping Squeezebox:

2. All my music is ripped as Apple Lossless. Unfortunately Oppo doesn't play that format. I may have to re rip and not really looking forward to that.

Cheers

There is absolutely no need to re-rip. Just use a converter.

I personally like dbpoweramp but there are many others.
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post #3145 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

3. The Squeezebox doesn't have to be wrestled into submission. It just works.

The best parts of the SB are the UI and the open source aspect of it. It would be great if Oppo were to go to school on this.

I have my Squeezebox Touches (2 of them) running a custom Real-Time Linux kernal, It does a really nice job streaming to the various DACs I own.

It still torques me off that this product line was discontinued by Logitech.
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post #3146 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post


Just curious why you would need the server on more then one machine. You can access the server from your other machines using the web interface can't you?
 

Not efficiently if the machines are in different houses.

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post #3147 of 5566
1/22/13 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

There is absolutely no need to re-rip. Just use a converter.

I personally like DBPowerAMP but there are many others.

+1 for DBPowerAMP.
It rips to FLAC, gathers the Meta Data.
The batch convert can creates the new files in the same folder so you directory structure is maintained.

- Rich
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post #3148 of 5566
1/22/13 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by 1soupmeister View Post

People I'm not feeling the love here. I know mine is pretty basic request compared to some of the very technical questions that have been posted but I would like some direction on what the best solution would be for the "video" connections I am asking about. Someone suggested connecting the HDMI out of the Apple TV directly to the TV but isn't that self defeating by not taking advantage of the processor of the HDMI-1 output? Then I also would have to use the Toslink for the audio to my amps.
Anyway if this has already been covered or if you have suggestions then please refer me to the area &/or posts where I can find the answers.
BTW I am purchasing the 105 primarily because of the audio capabilities and will be replacing a Myryad Prepro. I'm ok with the audio connections etc., hence the video questions.
Thank you everyone for the informative posts on the site and look forward to a response.


Ok, I thought you were using the appleTV for music, I didn't even think of using it for video. Well, since you do have the cable box you do have the front HDMI input, beyond that you can get a remote controllable HDMI switcher which works surprisingly well. You probably aren't getting may comments because so far your question really doesn't seem to be technical you're just trying to make connections into your OPPO and you already know what the (video) input options are.



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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

There is absolutely no need to re-rip. Just use a converter.

I personally like dbpoweramp but there are many others.

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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

+1 for DBPowerAMP.
It rips to FLAC, gathers the Meta Data.
The batch convert can creates the new files in the same folder so you directory structure is maintained.

- Rich

When doing this conversion, do you loose all your metadata or at least your album art? Someone mentioned this to be me before which is why I never tried it.
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post #3149 of 5566
1/22/13 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by TrebleClef View Post

I'm in the process of becoming a JRiver devotee in conjunction with my OPPO.

I suppose their licensing structure is one PC per $50.00 license.


...sigh...

No reasons to sigh - see below from JRiver Wiki:

Can I install on more than one PC?
A: During the two-week period after you have purchased or restored, you can use the Install Key you received to activate the program on your other PC’s. You may use the program on your work PC and on your home PC's with a single license.
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1/22/13 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

Just curious why you would need the server on more then one machine. You can access the server from your other machines using the web interface can't you?

From their webpage:

To follow up on this - I "Point" JRiver to where my files are located. There is no import into Jriver. With this structure you can easily have it on multiple PC's. However I am not sure where the Playlists are stored yet. I think ratings are in the Meta data.
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