Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread - Page 108

• "For sheer utility and sound quality, its hard to beat the Oppo BDP-105"
• "you won’t find a better Blu-ray player for reference-quality video playback"
• "Allowing you to tap into the reference-quality DAC and video processing so the rest of your system can benefit is a feature that truly sets the Oppo apart"

• Where's the "sheer utility" when the audio is so delayed the show is not watchable? Plus the delay isn't even consistent. I started out with a tolerable delay last evening that became totally intolerable just by plugging in the headphones.
• Are the reviewers changing the default on the QDEO sharpness to get reference quality? Or is their box working properly with the factory default?
  I'm personally not sure whether or not the +1 as suggested by Bob is not too sharp, or that at 0 the picture is "fuzzed" - but it is softer. But which setting really provides "reference quality" I can't answer.
• Once again, "tapping in" would be great if audio/video sync were maintained and no audio delay occurred.

"In careful A/B tests with the BDP-95 and BDP-105’s unbalanced inputs into the Bryston headphone amp using the Coda preamp as the source switcher and audio relay, I could not reliably tell the difference between the two players when listening through my reference Shure SRH1840 or the AKG-K701 headphones. Oppo’s tweaked-out power supply and upgraded parts may have improved measured performance a bit, but it is not enough of a change to make a significant audible difference under most listening conditions.

• Audio from outside sources (ARC, SPDIF) is delayed (sometimes severely) causing lip sync issues.
• Direct in via HDMI audio/video sync issues - for me this applies to the Roku stick in which viewing one item the a/v sync might be close and the next so out of sync (delayed audio again) that it's almost impossible to believe. Can't watch two Vevo videos in a row without the sync issue destroying the experience.
• Many times once the audio becomes horribly delayed it requires a cold boot of the system (removal of power cord after shutdown) to get reasonably close again.
• The audio delay is quite variable and little things, like changing from speakers to headphones, can cause a tolerable delay to become intolerable.
• Freezes under various conditions requiring a reboot. I really don't think such an "appliance" should ever lock-up in this manner (even Microsoft has almost eradicated the BSOD).
• SMB has minor but workable issues.
• Sometimes on a power-up no video is displayed and it needs a reboot.
• Connecting both HDMI outs to my TV (in case I want some sources to be QDEO processed and others not) breaks ARC, so this can't be done since I lose audio when the player is not the source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmusoke 

"In careful A/B tests with the BDP-95 and BDP-105’s unbalanced inputs into the Bryston headphone amp using the Coda preamp as the source switcher and audio relay, I could not reliably tell the difference between the two players when listening through my reference Shure SRH1840 or the AKG-K701 headphones. Oppo’s tweaked-out power supply and upgraded parts may have improved measured performance a bit, but it is not enough of a change to make a significant audible difference under most listening conditions.

Suffice it say that the BDP-105 retains the sonic pluses of the ’95 with some potential audible refinement, but its main advantage over the previous player is its greatly expanded feature set."

Thank you, it seems the big advantage of the 105 is new features, being able to be used as a DAC but sound wise not worth the upgrade!

Plus with all these issues not worth it for me, I am waiting for the next generation

Oppo BDP-115 :)

"From there, my focus turned to comparing the sound of this player to the spectacular BDP-95. I didn’t expect much difference given that they both use the same reference DAC, but considering the small differences in design, I wanted to make sure. Two-channel playback was nearly identical, and any difference I did perceive was so slight, I might as well not even report it. The BDP-105 was every bit as detailed and dynamic as the BDP-95, and this was proven time and again with a large assortment of SACDs and CDs."

I am not sure it's worth to upgrade especially plugging down $1290..

The fan on the BD-P95 almost never goes on and I sit 12 feet away so not an issue.

I really wanted to see Audio improvement if at all possible

"From there, my focus turned to comparing the sound of this player to the spectacular BDP-95. I didn’t expect much difference given that they both use the same reference DAC, but considering the small differences in design, I wanted to make sure. Two-channel playback was nearly identical, and any difference I did perceive was so slight, I might as well not even report it. The BDP-105 was every bit as detailed and dynamic as the BDP-95, and this was proven time and again with a large assortment of SACDs and CDs."

I am not sure it's worth to upgrade especially plugging down $1290..

The fan on the BD-P95 almost never goes on and I sit 12 feet away so not an issue.

I really wanted to see Audio improvement if at all possible